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0:19 Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy 0:20 and blessings. How are you, Brother 0:22 Nuim Hayat? 0:23 >> And peace be upon you, and Allah's 0:24 mercy and blessings. I'm doing well. 0:25 How about you? 0:26 >> Praise be to God. Ah, how is Melbourne? 0:29 Is the weather very hot there now, 0:31 Brother? 0:31 >> No, it has cooled down. It was indeed 0:33 hot last week. On Friday it reached 32, 0:35 now it's down to below 20. 0:38 >> Wow, in Lampung it reached 37 yesterday 0:40 , that's extraordinary. But burning is 0:43 still a story, behind this fire is 0:46 there something else burning? A fire in 0:49 the concept of corruption. I don't know 0:52 how it is in Australia, but here some 0:55 are fuming about corruption, where 0:57 state losses are not part of the 0:59 definition of corruption, becoming 1:01 another story raised by a Luhut Binsar 1:03 Panjaitan. This person is still at it. 1:08 Extraordinary. But in the Middle East, 1:10 Brother, in the middle of the upcoming 1:12 elections in Israel, there seem to be 1:14 many maneuvers being carried out. This 1:17 is the Middle East Forum. Is the House 1:19 of Saud on the verge of the worst-case 1:21 scenario? What will happen? What about 1:24 the place of our ancestors? Brother 1:26 Nuim's elders were there in the early 1:29 days. What is happening regarding 1:31 France as well? Brother Nuim, listen to 1:33 that. Suddenly their cooling system 1:36 temperature goes up. Ah, the food is 1:39 scorched. Well, this becomes a stomach 1:41 problem again. And will the Democrats 1:43 soar in America? Are America's problems 1:47 with Hong Kong resolved and will China 1:49 continue to soar, perhaps Brother Nuim 1:51 can provide an overview amidst Iran, 1:53 which is on alert for American aircraft 1:55 carriers starting to approach. Ah, the 1:59 world is bustling again. Please, 2:00 Brother Nuim Hayat. For the next 30 2:02 minutes, Brother. 2:03 >> Yes. In the name of Allah, the Most 2:04 Gracious, the Most Merciful. Peace be 2:05 upon you, and Allah's mercy and 2:06 blessings. So if we look specifically 2:08 at the mid-term 2:10 >> elections in the United States, it is 2:12 very interesting because now Trump is 2:14 smart, he doesn't want to attack Iran, 2:16 but he is attacking Islam. He 2:19 >> said one of the candidates from the 2:21 Democratic Party representing the state 2:23 of Michigan who is predicted 2:27 >> to have a possibility of following in 2:29 the footsteps of Zohran Mamdani in New 2:32 York and becoming a senator. This would 2:34 be incredibly shocking. If Dr. Sayid 2:37 Abdullah, eh Muhammad, eh Muhammad 2:40 >> Sayid 2:41 >> this, yes, if he becomes a senator, 2:44 then Trump says, oh, he is dangerous 2:46 because he is a Muslim. It seems he 2:49 says that these Muslims in America, 2:50 whose numbers are actually so small, 2:53 >> want, he says, for Sharia law to be 2:56 implemented in America. Then he said, " 3:00 If this Said happens to become a 3:01 senator, then before he enters the 3:03 courtroom, he must be checked with a 3:05 metal detector, a tracking device." Who 3:09 knows if he is bringing something in. 3:11 That's his story. Because indeed, 3:14 according to estimates, there is a 3:16 possibility that the Republican Party 3:19 will suffer a defeat. That 3:21 >> is usually common, it actually happens 3:23 if, for example, the President is from 3:25 the Democratic Party, then in the 3:26 mid-term elections the Republican Party 3:28 triumphs, and it keeps alternating like 3:30 that. So 3:32 >> It is said so, but we see that many 3:34 young people in America are being 3:36 mobilized, which is very interesting 3:37 for 3:39 >> campaigning for the interests of the 3:41 Republican Party. 3:42 >> So, among them are public figures, eh, 3:44 sports figures, and America is truly 3:46 crazy about sports. So we see here that 3:49 there is a possibility of an anomaly 3:52 occurring. But it looks like Trump has 3:54 started to loosen up a little. Meaning 3:57 he repeatedly says that firstly, he 3:59 will not do anything about the matter 4:02 >> and he also will not launch an attack 4:04 against Iran. Perhaps he has already 4:06 calculated it. It is just that the 4:09 possibility is that Netanyahu will 4:10 later initiate an attack on Iran. Even 4:14 though elections in Israel will happen 4:16 tomorrow and Netanyahu has begun to 4:18 commit extraordinary acts of violence 4:19 in the West Bank, in Hebron, 4:23 >> thousands of Palestinians have already 4:24 been expelled and so on. And it seems 4:27 humanity cannot do anything 4:30 >> to face this reality. In fact, a few 4:33 days ago, there was news that was not 4:36 widely circulated that Israel sent its 4:39 fighter jets to the Iranian border to 4:42 provoke Iran into retaliating. But 4:45 apparently, Iran was wise enough and 4:47 did not do anything. Because if their 4:51 jets were attacked for self-defense, 4:53 yes, for self-defense by Israel, by 4:56 Iran, 4:57 >> then that could be used as a pretext by 5:00 Israel to strike Iran. Now, if 5:03 Netanyahu strikes Iran, then America 5:05 cannot do anything except join in 5:07 striking Iran. Right now 5:10 >> people are starting to ask, what about 5:11 Saudi Arabia? Why can it become a 5:14 target for, uh? Eh. 5:15 >> But all of this has something to do 5:17 with the presence of the United States 5:19 itself in the Persian Gulf region in 5:21 Arab countries 5:23 >> which seem to be influenceable by 5:26 America and Israel in this matter, 5:29 >> to the point that they show 5:31 extraordinary hatred toward Iran. But 5:34 this situation between Iran and the 5:36 Arab countries has indeed existed for a 5:37 long time. I remember when a few years 5:40 ago I was invited to Tehran 5:43 >> to deliver a paper on radio 5:45 broadcasting 5:46 >> that was cross-cultural. So I was 5:49 representing Radio Australia at that 5:51 time when someone made a comment about 5:53 an Iranian girl. Oh, she is as 5:55 beautiful as an Arab girl. Oh, she was 5:57 very angry. 5:58 >> They do not want to be compared to 6:00 Arabs. They are Iranian. They are 6:02 Persian people. So they do not want to 6:04 be compared to Arabs. Now, this is 6:06 interesting. But what was said by Trump 6:10 about Tlaib is indeed in politics— 6:12 people say, eh, "all is fair in love 6:14 and war," as the English say; 6:16 everything is allowed in war, romance, 6:18 and also in politics. Perhaps what he 6:22 said is very interesting because we see 6:24 that the husband 6:27 >> of a member of Congress of Iranian/ 6:30 Somali descent, who is a very devout 6:32 Muslim woman, her husband is reportedly 6:35 about to be arrested for allegedly 6:38 committing, uh, some kind of fraud or 6:40 something. This is perhaps just another 6:45 pretext to silence, yes, silence 6:48 members of Congress who represent 6:51 Muslims, like Tlaib from Palestine and 6:54 Ilhan from Somalia. So it is 6:58 interesting to see that now Islam is 7:00 starting to be used. Now, if earlier 7:03 Rasil asked why is it 7:06 >> Mr. Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan, this guy 7:08 is a rich man, right? Hm. 7:11 >> A rich person like him should just sit 7:14 back and relax. But why must he get 7:17 involved in matters 7:18 >> of anti-corruption? Because we know 7:22 >> if the KPK Law at that time hadn't been 7:27 , well, overhauled 7:30 >> by the administration where 7:33 >> Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan is one of the 7:36 key figures, maybe the KPK could be 7:39 more powerful in 7:41 >> uh, eradicating corruption. But we know 7:44 that later those KPK members were 7:47 considered state civil apparatus and so 7:51 on, and people like Novel Baswedan and 7:54 others. They were all meant to weaken 7:57 efforts to 7:59 >> eradicate corruption. So, in the end, 8:03 perhaps we return to refer to what was 8:05 once said by people like Muhammad Hatta 8:08 , may he rest in peace, that corruption 8:10 in Indonesia has become a culture 8:14 >> and was echoed by Mochtar Lubis who 8:15 said if it has become a culture, then 8:17 let's just teach it in schools, he said 8:19 . 8:22 >> Oh, it really is extraordinary, isn't 8:23 it? Yes, it seems things are really not 8:27 , not okay right now. Especially since 8:30 we are also with our neighbor, 8:32 Singapore, who seems to be hot and cold 8:34 with the issue of, what is it, MSCI and 8:36 others. Not to mention the smoke issue 8:39 starting from here, but it has started 8:41 raining now. Apparently this is what 8:44 was awaited so that the case will be 8:46 submerged underwater there in 8:47 Kalimantan. How do you see it, Bang Nim 8:50 ? Bushfires in Australia also happen 8:52 too, right, Bang? It's common there. 8:54 >> Yes. Yes, in Australia, it's like this, 8:57 those forest fires are called bushfires 8:59 . Those fires are generally 9:02 >> eucalyptus trees because they are 9:05 native trees. 9:07 >> And these eucalyptus trees need to burn 9:10 to regenerate. Hm. 9:12 >> After burning, it will rain and they 9:14 will become new ones. So it's like this 9:16 , 9:17 >> during summer, for example, high winds, 9:20 suddenly branches break, fall, hit 9:22 rocks, sparks fly, and a fire occurs. 9:25 That has been natural to happen since 9:28 long ago. 9:29 >> But then, human beings lately have 9:31 indeed contributed negatively. So 9:34 sometimes cigarette butts are thrown 9:36 away and so on. There are also, there 9:38 are also some deliberately, some are 9:40 deliberately ignited like this 9:43 >> in Australia. Yes. 9:44 >> Yes. 9:45 >> The extinguishing, the firefighters are 9:47 not entirely professional. Meaning many 9:50 are volunteers who participate. 9:53 >> Now, among these volunteers, sometimes 9:55 there are those whose mental state 9:56 might be disturbed but it's not known, 9:58 not detected. 9:59 >> He wants to be a hero participating in 10:01 putting out the fire. He tries. If 10:03 there is no fire, he cannot take action 10:05 . So he tries with a cigarette butt or 10:07 something and then the fire happens 10:08 immediately. But we know 10:11 >> if in Australia it also happens with 10:14 planes used specifically to try to put 10:16 out the fires, we 10:19 >> don't have [any], even Malaysia perhaps 10:22 has more planes that are used to 10:25 extinguish fires when it happens. But 10:29 >> This is embarrassing. Then, yeah 10:33 >> the person newly appointed as the head 10:35 of Bangkom in the Jokowi administration 10:37 , that saga and kolan, said oh 10:39 Singapore should thank us because we 10:41 give them oxygen. 10:44 >> Oxygen forever 10:46 >> because our forests, that’s not a 10:48 serious answer, I think it’s not a 10:50 serious answer but it also shows 10:51 desperation. 10:53 >> They are already dead, so here Bung 10:56 Isan 10:57 >> it is true what people call curse of 11:00 resources, a curse 11:02 >> from natural resources. When natural 11:04 resources provide a curse instead of a 11:07 blessing. Because why? What is burning 11:10 here are acts to clear forests the easy 11:13 way, a shortcut, so they can plant oil 11:16 palms to be exported. Now, palm oil is 11:19 a natural resource. So this is what is 11:23 called the curse of natural resources 11:25 that we see happening in Venezuela with 11:27 its oil, happening in Nigeria with its 11:29 oil. So right now 11:32 >> it’s as if we are not doing anything 11:35 useful or capable of truly maintaining 11:40 >> the security of our forests. This is 11:43 perhaps what makes Singapore, 11:45 especially recently, have a very stern 11:48 reaction because there is an agreement. 11:51 >> Oh, right. 11:51 >> With ASEAN. There is an agreement with 11:53 ASEAN. 11:54 >> So who caused this trouble? Who is 11:57 being brazen? Who is responsible? If we 12:00 ask Luhut, maybe he will blame, "Oh, 12:02 perhaps there are evil genies, these 12:04 ifrit genies." Perhaps he will say, he 12:08 won't say that wealthy people are also 12:10 involved in this problem. It’s very 12:13 shameful, and we are not buying 12:15 >> the planes used to 12:18 >> extinguish the fires and we even refuse 12:21 aid 12:22 >> refuse offers of assistance 12:24 >> from our neighbor. Yes. Extraordinary. 12:28 But learning from the events in France, 12:32 Bang. It is said that there were 12:34 hundreds of refrigerators. that 12:36 exploded or heated up on their own. So 12:39 this could also happen in various 12:41 places on earth now with technology and 12:44 also satellites or the network of what 12:46 modern warfare is now, it’s 12:48 extraordinary. How do you see it, Bang 12:52 NuiM? Kis 12:54 >> here we look 12:56 >> Rasil listeners probably remember that 12:58 not long ago when Israel started 13:00 hitting Lebanon, they could explode 13:02 cellphones, right? 13:04 >> Yes, that's right. People, yeah, many 13:08 died. Then, Trump some time ago said 13:12 maybe he said we in America will limit 13:15 the import of 13:17 >> electric cars from China because they 13:20 could be weaponized. So, this is 13:23 because it can be remote, like what was 13:25 said earlier about how cooling units ' 13:26 temperatures can rise 50 degrees 13:28 Celsius. Yeah. So, what is happening in 13:32 France right now is 13:34 >> people can no longer accept the burden 13:36 of such high living costs and this is 13:38 being exploited by certain groups. So 13:41 in France, it is said that what is 13:43 driving this are people on the left 13:46 >> h 13:47 >> who are very radical. They no longer 13:49 like seeing what is happening, schools 13:51 are not well maintained, and so on. He. 13:53 >> And the problem right now is 13:56 >> there is an assumption that this could 13:59 spread to the United States. 14:01 >> Oh. 14:02 >> Because even in America, the burden of 14:04 living costs is already extraordinary. 14:07 Yes. 14:08 >> So, in the end, as humans, it is said 14:10 that we are not 14:13 >> living to eat, we eat to live. But 14:17 sometimes this issue of basic 14:19 sustenance can make people lose their 14:21 temper because they are hungry and so 14:23 on. And besides that, they see a small 14:26 fraction whose lives are so luxurious. 14:28 This could later arise, and strangely, 14:31 in regions or countries like France, 14:34 Italy, and not just France, in Albania, 14:36 in Germany, those driving this are 14:39 left-leaning people. Yeah. 14:42 >> So you could say they are socialists, 14:44 if not communists, and there is concern 14:46 this could spread to the United States. 14:50 If this happens, well, America will 14:52 also be overwhelmed and have to be 14:53 prepared. 14:54 >> Okay. Socialist issues like Abdul Sayed 14:57 and what is it, Zohran, this is in the 15:00 spotlight, Mamdani, Zohran Mamdani. 15:04 >> not Gibran Mamdani, I forgot, I 15:05 mispronounced it earlier. Oh my. Yes. I 15:12 see. Yes. Extraordinary. But this 15:14 turmoil is also happening in Israel 15:16 itself, there are already many today 15:18 who say we are better off under Arab 15:20 rule. This is just for tomorrow. 15:23 Meanwhile, 1.1 million Arabs will 15:25 participate in the election in Israel. 15:28 While Saudi Arabia itself is in the 15:31 spotlight. Will this be the worst-case 15:34 scenario from Hang Henghong heading 15:36 toward 2027, which many interpret as a 15:38 time when many changes will occur on 15:40 this earth? What do you think, Brother 15:42 Nuim? Saudi Arabia is said to want to 15:46 move Davos to the middle of the desert. 15:48 and Saudi Arabia also 15:51 >> has a big project for 2034 because it 15:53 is hosting the World Cup tournament, 15:56 which costs billions of dollars. 16:00 >> and even now they are already 16:01 overwhelmed dealing with what is being 16:03 launched by the Houthis, 16:05 >> which are actually considered weapons, 16:08 or in the old term, matchlock guns, but 16:10 they can attack. 16:13 >> And yes, they might play the religious 16:17 card here. Wow, what will happen to the 16:21 two holy cities of Islam, Makkah 16:22 Al-Mukarramah and Madinah Al-Munawwarah 16:24 , if they end up being attacked and so 16:25 on? But people also know 16:29 >> how close a number of countries in the 16:31 Gulf region are 16:33 >> to America. They host 16:36 >> American bases and so on. And Iran 16:39 apparently will not just let this be. 16:42 Even though they will not initiate an 16:44 attack, if they are attacked, 16:47 >> reportedly, 16:49 >> Iran will launch a retaliation 16:51 different from previous times. We don't 16:54 know how, but they do indeed have the 16:56 capability for that. Because 16:59 >> well, as many people have said, after 17:01 being attacked, being ganged up on, to 17:03 use a crude term, ganged up on 17:04 thoroughly, 17:06 >> thoroughly. In the end, they are still 17:08 standing. And will this continue to 17:11 develop? 17:13 >> We shall see how things go after the 17:14 election in America and what happens 17:16 tomorrow in Israel. Because his majesty 17:19 Netanyahu, 17:19 >> this is not a life or death matter for 17:22 >> his party, but a life or death matter 17:23 for 17:24 >> his own safety. Because he still has to 17:27 face cases in court because 17:29 >> the existence of corruption charges 17:31 against him. So he wants this war to 17:34 continue so that the court case can 17:37 keep being delayed, and perhaps he can 17:40 eventually be safe. We’ll see what 17:43 happens there. 17:44 >> Hmm. But yes, people will surely see 17:47 who the winner of this story is. 17:49 Yesterday, a friend of mine just 17:51 returned from China and said that China 17:54 is incredible, with progress seen in 17:56 every village. What does Bang Nuim see? 18:00 Even Houthi weapons use Chinese 18:01 technology, and Iran, and even Saudi 18:04 Arabia is now in the spotlight for 18:06 making ballistic missiles. It seems 18:10 America is unwilling to let go of its 18:12 dominance over China. What does Bang 18:15 Nuim see regarding the discipline of 18:19 China? Where did they start? 18:20 >> It’s truly extraordinary. China is 18:22 incredibly disciplined. Perhaps this is 18:26 the basis of the hadith "seek knowledge 18:29 even unto China," as they say. Because 18:34 >> because many people—not equate, but 18:36 say there are similarities 18:39 >> between the teachings of Confucianism 18:41 and the teachings of Islam. Because 18:44 both teach about this world and the 18:46 hereafter. So it is not just one aspect 18:48 . That is roughly what is said. But 18:51 China itself is also likely 18:53 experiencing problems due to a labor 18:56 shortage there. Labor meaning young 19:00 people to replace those who are 19:01 starting to retire. Because of what? 19:04 Because of this one-child policy 19:06 implemented in the past. 19:08 >> It's hard to change that, Bang. Yes, 19:10 >> That becomes a problem. We see this in 19:14 Germany and Italy; it happens because 19:16 people in Germany voluntarily choose 19:18 not to have more than one or two 19:21 children, and this cannot cover the 19:23 shortfall when older people start to 19:25 retire and are no longer productive. 19:28 Nevertheless, 19:29 >> if we look at the technology currently 19:32 being developed in China, we truly have 19:35 to 19:36 >> perhaps shake our heads in disbelief. 19:37 But I don't shake my head because I say 19:41 >> if it weren't for these matters, would 19:43 the hadith "seek knowledge even unto 19:45 China" exist? Because they invented 19:50 >> they invented the compass, they 19:52 invented gunpowder, for example, they 19:54 invented paper. 19:56 >> This was in the past. 19:58 >> And cooperation between China and the 20:00 Muslims, with Medina, was established 20:02 during the time of 20:05 >> the Caliph Uthman bin Affan. Yes. 20:07 >> China brought in 20:11 >> military trainers from Medina to train 20:12 their military so they could later 20:14 fight the Mongols. And then these 20:17 military trainers were persuaded not to 20:20 return to Medina. 20:22 >> Persuaded to marry local women so they 20:25 could help with state administration in 20:27 China. But this is not 20:30 >> never revealed. 20:32 >> This has never been revealed. It is 20:34 covered up because it seems to give 20:36 added value to Islam, right? 20:38 >> Ah, yes, extraordinary. Isn't it Saudi 20:42 and Iran that China reconciled? 20:44 Indonesia should be able to play a role 20:48 >> by emulating or following their 20:50 footsteps. But how, Bang Nuim, people 20:52 who have problems in Indonesia have 20:54 already been punished in China first. 20:57 What is that? He is implementing such 21:00 strict measures against corruption. 21:04 Different strokes for different folks, 21:07 it seems. What do you think, Nuim? 21:09 >> Well, it’s like this. People are 21:11 surprised by this Jinping guy, 21:13 >> wondering why he is so popular. Uh-huh. 21:17 >> Because he has proven his willingness 21:19 to sacrifice for his country. You see, 21:22 >> his current wife is his second wife. 21:25 >> His first wife was the daughter of a 21:28 diplomat. 21:30 >> At that time, his father-in-law was 21:32 appointed as a diplomat and assigned to 21:35 England. Uh-huh. 21:37 >> Now, back then China was still 21:40 >> not as developed as it is today. 21:43 >> So, his wife, whose father was a 21:45 diplomat, wanted them to live a life of 21:47 luxury in England. Wow, they could go 21:50 to Europe, and so on. 21:52 >> But Jinping said, "I don't want to. I 21:53 don't want to go to London." 21:55 >> Well, why not? I want to fight for my 21:57 people. In the end, they divorced. 21:59 >> Oh, 21:59 >> they divorced. Now, people in China say 22:03 , "Look, he sacrificed the opportunity 22:06 to live a luxurious life in Europe. In 22:11 London, then Paris, maybe later Spain 22:13 or Italy, because he wanted to fight 22:16 for his nation.""Ah, this 22:19 >> makes him 22:21 >> regarded as a truly honest person, a 22:23 sincere person, someone who really 22:25 wants to fight for the welfare of his 22:27 people." This is what allows him to 22:30 last for so long. Uh-huh. So, a country 22:34 needs an icon. So, this icon is like 22:38 how we used to have Bung Karno or Bung 22:40 Hatta, but sometimes the top leadership 22:42 makes the people scratch their heads 22:44 too. But how much influence does this 22:48 have on a system? In Australia, does 22:51 that also happen as a self-portrait of 22:53 a nation or a people's self-portrait? 22:58 >> Yes. Here, we know that the law applies 23:01 . That cannot be denied, no matter what 23:03 . 23:05 >> Whoever speaks, we can say that here 23:08 the law applies and if people criticize 23:11 , 23:13 >> condemn, reproach, or insult the 23:14 government or leaders, they do it 23:16 without holding back. But all of that 23:19 is considered part of politics. As an 23:22 American president, if I'm not mistaken 23:24 Truman once said, if you can't stand 23:26 the heat, stay out of the kitchen. 23:30 >> So, if you cannot be criticized, if you 23:32 can't stand criticism, then don't enter 23:35 politics. Uh-huh. 23:37 >> So, don't then turn around and be 23:41 anti-listening. I always remind people, 23:46 I say look at 23:48 >> Al-Baqarah verse 30, *Wa idz qala 23:50 rabbuka lil malaikah*. When Allah said 23:53 to the angels, "I will 23:55 >> create a caliph on the surface of the 23:57 earth.""They challenged it." Now, 23:59 that's a statement that can be used 24:00 from reading the Quran. 24:01 >> Yes. 24:02 >> Challenged by the angels. And Allah 24:04 Subhanahu wa ta'ala did not say, "Hey, 24:06 why have you become the minions of 24:07 Satan or minions of the devil?""No." It 24:10 is only said inni a’lamu ma la 24:12 ta’lamun. I know what you do not know 24:15 . Right. This is an example. Allah 24:18 Subhanahu wa ta'ala, the Almighty, the 24:20 All-Great, the All-Everything, was 24:22 questioned by the angels and He did not 24:24 get angry. 24:26 >> Inni a’lamu. I know what you do not 24:29 know, with all calmness and all mercy. 24:32 So there is no need for all these' 24:33 londo ireng '(local collaborators) who 24:35 refuse to work. Now we see 24:38 >> there is Rocky Gerung, there is Quraish 24:40 , yes, there is Yusuf Hamka. We shall 24:42 see whether 24:44 >> these judges can work 24:47 >> steadfastly. Extraordinary. Bang Noim, 24:51 yesterday in Jakarta, why were there so 24:53 many Australians coming to watch 24:55 whatever it was, Westlife or Kenway, 24:56 why didn't they watch it there? They 25:00 said they couldn't get visas, or was it 25:02 the Jewish lobby there, or like the 25:04 Bocelli concert here, still back and 25:06 forth, how is it, Bang? 25:10 >> Not really, not really, this situation 25:13 is actually just passing and too small 25:15 for us to worry about because 25:19 >> frankly, we are now being scrutinized 25:22 >> for the forest fire issue, which is 25:25 very, very, uh 25:26 >> extraordinary. 25:27 >> It is not only embarrassing to our 25:29 image as a 25:30 >> great nation. I actually wanted to, 25:33 when we talked last week, say what if 25:38 >> Indonesia, as a country with the 25:40 largest Muslim population in the world, 25:42 united with Malaysia, which also has a 25:45 Muslim majority, and then one more 25:47 country, perhaps Pakistan, could 25:49 reconcile 25:51 >> the Muslims in the Middle East because 25:54 they are 25:55 >> quite difficult to unite. So it would 25:58 be good if they could try something 26:00 like that. But with the current 26:02 situation, what can we do? 26:04 >> Now, Bang, this journey of your life 26:07 might be a lesson for the listeners. 26:11 When the ummah is so hard to unite, the 26:13 tribalism and the sects are so strong, 26:16 and each feels they are the most 26:18 correct. What do you, Bang Noim, see in 26:23 your heart, what is the lesson we can 26:26 learn to stay humble or steadfast, Bang 26:29 ? 26:31 >> We are told, we are given examples of 26:33 when the Muslim ummah was united, the 26:35 Muslim ummah controlled 26:37 >> h 26:38 >> arguably a large part of the world. Why 26:40 do we never remember, for instance, 26:43 >> the Ottoman Caliphate? Yes. 26:45 >> Why, during the Ottoman Caliphate which 26:48 lasted about 700 years, did many Jewish 26:51 people, 26:53 >> and Christians leave their countries to 26:55 seek refuge in Islamic lands because of 26:57 the Islamic teaching of la ikraha 26:59 fiddin (no compulsion in religion)? Now 27:02 , the Qur'an is not just about that, 27:04 not just la ikraha fiddin, but mawaddah 27:10 (affection). May Allah create affection 27:12 between you and those who are not 27:14 Muslim, and so on. So Islam encourages 27:16 it, 27:17 >> but this is also a test for us. Why? 27:20 Because there is a warning from the 27:22 Qur'an to hold fast to the rope of 27:24 Allah, yet it happens. 27:26 >> This shows that we are still 27:28 continuously being tested, and perhaps 27:30 those who are most obedient are the 27:32 ones who succeed. Hopefully. 27:34 >> Hopefully, yes. Many people say Islam 27:36 rises from the West, right. Well, there 27:39 were Islamic figures in America earlier 27:41 , but they also drew analogies with 27:43 Catholicism in America. Bang D, why is 27:48 the issue of religion so prominent in 27:51 America, yet the people, the atheists 27:55 or the secularists, still don't seem to 27:59 learn from it? Just looking at the 28:03 phenomenon there, because they are a 28:05 country that considers secularism to be 28:08 the absolute truth. Because why? 28:12 >> Because apart from Islam and 28:13 Confucianism, generally those religions 28:16 teach about life in the hereafter. 28:20 >> Not in the world. Now, let's not forget 28:22 one of the most cunning Dutchmen who 28:26 ever existed, Snouck Hurgronje. 28:29 >> He was the one who wrote it. 28:32 >> Which was later quoted by Jokowi, 28:35 saying don't mix Islam and the state, 28:38 because it is said...Munkar, this is 28:46 only the third [aspect], imagine. It's 28:55 only the third, and you believe in 28:58 Allah. So it means. 29:00 >> This worldly matter should not be taken 29:02 lightly. Use the world for the 29:04 hereafter, yet we are taught, we are 29:07 still being messed with in Indonesia 29:09 itself, perhaps there is an effort. 29:12 >> To make Islam different by calling it 29:15 Nusantara Islam and so on. Even though 29:17 it can't be done. 29:18 >> Islam is the only religion whose name 29:21 was given by its God. Islam. 29:28 >> If you want to say Muslims of the 29:29 archipelago, that's fine. 29:31 >> But don't mess with Islam, giving it [ 29:34 new] names. No. Islam is Islam, from 29:36 Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala. 29:39 >> The Muslims are the ones here in the 29:40 archipelago. Yes, that is what we 29:42 sometimes find concerning. 29:43 >> This situation can easily be twisted 29:46 around. Yes, that's right. It is 29:49 extraordinary that this issue becomes, 29:54 well, a matter of individual interests 29:59 behind it all. Oh, it doesn't feel like 30:03 30 minutes have passed. Many listeners 30:05 are saying, "Bang, can Bang Nuim's time 30:07 be extended?""Is it possible, Bang?" 30:09 The time there is approaching Dhuhr. 30:12 >> Some other time. Some other time. 30:14 >> MasyaAllah. Do you have plans to come 30:16 to Jakarta, Bang Nuim? Some of them are 30:18 asking that too. Not yet, Bang Nuim, by 30:20 the end of this year. InsyaAllah. 30:23 >> As the Malay saying goes, steps, fate, 30:25 meetings, and death are in God's hands, 30:26 right? That's about it. Wow. Lastly, 30:32 Bang Nuim, a closing statement for our 30:34 listeners; there are people from 32 30:36 countries, ranging from two people to 30:39 120 here in America. What would you 30:43 like to convey to listeners from Aceh 30:45 to Banyuwangi, Bang? 30:47 >> Yes. There is one piece of advice that 30:50 was once shared. 30:51 >> That this life is a preparation for 30:54 death. 30:56 >> So, because we know that we will 30:58 eventually die. As Allah Subhanahu wa 31:03 ta'ala says, our lives become better. 31:05 Meaning great people, this and that, 31:07 eventually they all must leave. So we 31:10 should not be afraid of that. So let us 31:13 prepare ourselves, use the world for 31:15 the hereafter, so we prepare ourselves 31:18 to face death, not be intimidated by 31:21 death. Wama Muhammadun illa rasul. The 31:26 Quran says that Muhammad is only a 31:28 messenger. Many messengers had come 31:30 before Muhammad. So we don't need to be 31:34 too afraid, but we must remain aware 31:36 that the time will come when we leave 31:39 this world and must account for what we 31:42 have done on this earth. 31:44 >> Yes, that is what is important. 31:46 Masha'Allah, there will be a story 31:48 after this life. Masha'Allah. Thank you 31:50 , Brother Nuim Hayat. See you next 31:52 Monday, God willing, stay healthy and 31:54 be a benefit to many people. Assalamu 31:57 alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh, 31:58 Brother. 32:00 >> Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi 32:01 wabarakatuh. 
