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0:00 Imam Mawardi, author of the book 0:02 Al-Ahkam Sultaniyah. Al-Imam 0:04 al-Haramayn, author of the book 0:06 Al-Ghiyathi. And also Nihayatul Matlab. 0:11 These are great books by scholars of 0:14 the same era, Imam Mawardi and Imam 0:16 al-Haramayn, whose times were close, 0:19 yet they harshly criticized each other. 0:23 So, Imam Mawardi attacked Imam 0:25 al-Haramayn. Imam al-Haramayn also 0:27 attacked the opinions of Al-Imam 0:29 al-Mawardi, and the language used was 0:31 quite strong. 0:33 Both belong to the Shafi'i school of 0:34 thought. Both are great Sunni scholars. 0:37 Both are key references, 0:39 both are equally authoritative. Yeah. 0:41 And we know both of them were pious 0:43 people. 0:43 In fact, I am certain that with the 0:45 breadth of their knowledge and the 0:46 benefits of their teachings, until 0:48 today, both must be considered friends 0:50 of Allah (Wali Allah). 0:51 MasyaAllah. 0:52 Yes. Having husnuzan (good opinion) 0:55 means, regardless of the fierce debates 0:57 between them, we can still think 0:59 positively of both. 1:00 Yes. 1:01 As long as both had the intention for 1:04 Allah and His Messenger. Indeed, both 1:06 are known for their piety. 1:07 Yes. Yes. Han. In the name of Allah, 1:45 the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. 1:47 Wun. Peace and blessings upon the 1:51 Messenger of Allah, his family, and his 1:53 companions. Peace be upon you all, and 1:56 Allah's mercy and blessings. Brothers 1:58 and sisters who are blessed by Allah 2:00 SWT, how are you? Welcome to the 2:02 Ramadan with Figures program, with the 2:04 humble Isa Alkaf, Kang Atep the 2:06 cameraman, and also Anis Mualim at the 2:08 operator desk. And alhamdulillah, on 2:11 this occasion, we have our teacher here 2:14 again, masyaAllah, in the midst of his 2:17 busy schedule this Ramadan, where he 2:20 rarely accepts invitations during this 2:22 month. MasyaAllah. Alhamdulillah, he 2:25 made the time to attend and come 2:27 directly to strengthen ties in the 2:28 middle of the night, Habib Hanif 2:30 Al-Attas. Peace be upon you, Habib. 2:31 And peace be upon you, and Allah's 2:32 mercy. I apologize for coming so late 2:34 at night. 2:34 It is fine, Habib. 2:35 Because it's troubling people at night. 2:38 It is the opportunity for 10 days of 2:39 i'tikaf. 2:40 Alhamdulillah, it's the night of the 2:41 21st of Ramadan tonight. 2:42 InshaAllah, may it be accepted and 2:44 considered as worship. Amin, O Allah. 2:46 Amin. Are you healthy? 2:47 Alhamdulillah. 2:48 My goodness, it has been a long time. 2:50 Oh masyaAllah, you are the one who 2:52 hasn't been seen; you seem busy. What 2:55 content, Isa? 2:57 Ading is. 2:57 Ading Isa. 2:59 O Allah, Habib, please pray for me. 3:00 Pray that... 3:01 Oh, hopefully it brings wider benefits 3:04 and wider propagation. Amin. Amin. 3:06 Habib. MasyaAllah, may you also always 3:08 be healthy, Habib. You just finished 3:09 Umrah, right, Habib? Amin. Yes, 3:10 alhamdulillah. 3:11 How many days, Bib? 3:12 Including travel, 13 days. 3:15 13 days. Oh, that's quite a long time, 3:16 Bib. Yes, 3:17 it's quite decent. 3:18 Usually, people only take 9 days. 3:19 Yes, we chose 13 days. 3:21 Because 9 days doesn't feel enough; it 3:22 feels like you just arrived and have to 3:23 go back already. 3:24 Yes, that's true. But did you stay 3:26 longer in Medina or Mecca? 3:27 I stayed longer in Medina. 3:28 How many days in Mecca? 3:31 I only caught four nights of Tarawih in 3:33 Mecca. No, 5 days. 3:37 H. 3:37 So, 5 days in Mecca. 3:39 That means in Medina... 3:40 The rest were in Medina. 3:41 Oh, amazing. MasyaAllah. When hearing 3:44 that one hadith, O Allah, send peace 3:47 upon our master Muhammad. The hearts of 3:52 those who believe will feel at peace in 3:55 Medina. Yes. Bib. MasyaAllah. Habib. 3:58 What was Ramadan like there for you, 4:00 Habib? 4:00 Oh, Mashallah. First of all, some of 4:03 our friends have the wrong idea. They 4:07 say, "Umrah during Ramadan is crowded, 4:09 expensive, and such a hassle." But we 4:13 forget, we focus on the hassle and 4:15 overlook the crowd. Rasulullah (PBUH), 4:18 in a sahih hadith, said, "Umratun fi 4:21 Ramadan ta'dilu hajjatan ma'i." The 4:25 Prophet (PBUH) said, "An Umrah in 4:27 Ramadan is equal to performing Hajj 4:30 with me." So it's not just any Hajj, 4:32 it's Hajj with the Prophet. Nowadays, 4:33 it's difficult for us to even go for 4:34 Hajj. 4:35 Some have to wait 30, 40, or 50 years. 4:38 If you want the VIP option to go 4:39 immediately, it's very expensive. 4:41 Yes. 4:42 Hundreds of millions, hundreds of 4:43 millions. 4:44 It costs as much as a house these days. 4:46 Yes. But for those who haven't 4:48 performed Hajj, doing Umrah in Ramadan 4:50 grants the virtue of Hajj with me. As 4:53 the Prophet (PBUH) said. 4:54 So, recently some of our pilgrims were 4:56 worried, "What if it's crowded and 4:58 difficult there?" Don't focus on that. 5:01 If you focus on the crowds and the 5:03 hassle, you'll lose your enthusiasm. 5:06 Focus on what you stand to gain. 5:08 Yeah. 5:08 The virtue is great, so there must be a 5:10 great sacrifice, right? 5:11 Exactly. 5:12 Isn't that right? If you focus on the 5:15 negative side, you won't enjoy it. And 5:19 secondly, we hope that in Ramadan, acts 5:23 of worship are multiplied, not just in 5:26 Mecca or Medina, right? Obligatory 5:30 rewards are multiplied 70 times. Sunnah 5:32 rewards become like obligatory ones. 5:35 And there are so many other ways 5:37 rewards are multiplied during Ramadan. 5:40 Now, imagine those multiplications 5:42 while being in the Holy Land. 5:44 That's what we should be thinking about 5:45 . 5:45 Yes. Yes. 5:46 A prayer in Masjid al-Haram is like 5:49 100,000 prayers 5:50 elsewhere. 5:50 Outside of Masjid al-Haram. Now, 5:53 imagine that during Ramadan. 5:54 God. Yeah. 5:56 If we focus on that, other things 5:58 If we focus on Yes, exactly. 6:00 You don't think about anything else. 6:02 And also, in the Prophet's Mosque, one 6:04 prayer is like 1,000 prayers outside of 6:07 it. Now, multiply that with Ramadan. 6:12 Not to mention the activities in Masjid 6:14 al-Haram and the Prophet's Mosque, 6:15 which are so vibrant. 6:17 There's Qiyam al-Layl and Taraweeh. 6:19 It's blissful. We listen to the Qaris 6:21 reciting the Quran with such beautiful 6:23 voices. We listen closely, reflecting 6:25 on the verses if we are able to 6:27 understand. 6:28 It is such an extraordinary pleasure. 6:30 Al-Jannah qabla al-Jannah. 6:32 Allah, and what could be more blissful 6:36 than fasting in the holy month right 6:39 beside the Prophet (PBUH)? 6:41 Allahu Akbar. I hope, God willing, all 6:46 listeners can depart to the holy land, 6:48 go to Makkah, to Madinah, and perform 6:50 pilgrimage to the Prophet Muhammad, 6:52 peace be upon him. There is a saying 6:55 like this 6:55 ee Habib Isa, 6:57 there is a saying that Makkah is the 7:00 qibla of the body. 7:02 H 7:03 our bodies pray facing Makkah. 7:06 The virtues of Makkah are truly 7:07 extraordinary. But Madinah is no less 7:10 great. Madinah is the qibla of the 7:11 heart. H 7:13 The qibla of the heart of Allah. 7:15 Whoever enters Madinah will surely have 7:17 a softened heart, surely softened. 7:19 Whoever has even a speck of longing for 7:21 the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him 7:23 , when they enter Madinah, the feeling 7:27 is truly extraordinary. It cannot be 7:30 repaid by anything. 7:31 Allah. Mashallah. Yes. 7:32 Hopefully, Madinah remains in our 7:34 hearts, God willing. So that whenever 7:35 and wherever we are, we feel as if we 7:36 are in Madinah. 7:37 The city of the Beloved, peace be upon 7:38 him. If the intention of going to 7:42 Makkah or Madinah is for worship, it is 7:44 different from going there for shopping 7:47 . 7:51 Ah, that is the function of the program 7:53 leader or guide. From the moment we 7:57 depart at Soekarno-Hatta airport, they 7:59 should already be reminding us to 8:02 straighten our intentions. 8:03 Yes. Yes. 8:04 Straighten your intentions. Utilize 8:06 your time as much as possible for 8:07 shopping. Is there a prohibition 8:10 against it? The companions used to shop 8:13 too, while they were in Makkah and 8:14 Madinah. But don't let that distract 8:18 from the essence of our worship. 8:21 Correct. 8:21 Mashallah. 8:22 Mashallah. Alhamdulillah. I hope we can 8:24 all manage to go there. Amin ya rabbal 8:27 alamin. And perhaps depart through 8:30 Silaturahim Travel. 8:32 A little promotion. 8:34 Just a promotion. Mashallah. Habib. 8:36 When you went there, Indonesia was 8:38 quite busy, Habib. 8:40 In some media, there seems to be a 8:43 dichotomy or comparison made by 8:45 netizens in Indonesia. There are many 8:49 religious figures in Islam, right, 8:51 Habib? 8:53 There are those called ustaz, those 8:56 called sheikh, those called kiai, and 8:59 those called habib. Now, these terms 9:02 are sometimes pitted against each other 9:04 by netizens. Wow, Habaib versus Kiai, 9:07 Habaib versus Ustaz, Habaib versus 9:10 Sheikh. What are these religious 9:12 figures actually? 9:13 What do they mean, Habib? Who is an 9:16 ustaz? Who is that? 9:17 First, I want to clarify, Habib Isa, 9:19 that those who pit them against each 9:21 other are likely not ordinary netizens, 9:23 but "buzzers". 9:25 Because that is the fact; you see it 9:27 tends to be buzzers who indeed have an 9:29 agenda to create conflict. As for 9:32 Muslim netizens who are truly sincere, 9:34 I feel they will see these religious 9:36 figures with full respect, full 9:38 reverence, and positive thinking. 9:41 So, let alone pitting them against each 9:43 other, they wouldn't even dare to show 9:44 disrespect. 9:45 That is one thing. Secondly, let me 9:48 clarify these terms first. As we 9:52 discussed briefly before starting, some 9:54 people don't understand what the term 9:56 Habib means. 9:57 Yes, that's right. 9:58 Yes. So, to all listeners who are 10:02 glorified by Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala, 10:04 Habib is a terminology. The terminology 10:09 is a designation commonly used today 10:12 for the descendants of the Prophet 10:15 Muhammad, peace be upon him. 10:19 Linguistically, etymologically, the 10:21 word "Habib" is derived from the word " 10:23 hub." Hub means love. 10:26 Habib follows the "fa'il" pattern. In 10:29 Arabic, "fa'il" can mean the doer, or 10:32 it can mean the object, the "maf'ul." 10:36 So, Habib here means "mahbub." 10:39 Which is a person who is loved. 10:43 Now, in some Islamic countries like 10:47 Yemen, Indonesia, Malaysia, and 10:49 Southeast Asia, because the majority of 10:53 Muslims in Indonesia originally came 10:57 from Yemen. According to the strongest 10:59 historical accounts. 11:00 Indeed from Yemen, from Hadhramaut. 11:02 There are many reasons for that. I 11:03 don't need to elaborate on that here. 11:05 That is a separate discussion regarding 11:06 Hadhramaut. That's why the culture is 11:08 so heavily influenced here. 11:10 Now, uh. The descendants of the Prophet 11:14 Muhammad, peace be upon him, are called 11:15 Habib. Descendants of the Prophet 11:18 Muhammad, peace be upon him, who have a 11:20 genealogy connected to the Prophet, are 11:22 given the title Habib. Actually, the 11:24 use of the term Habib in Yemen itself 11:26 has its own history. 11:28 So, they weren't always called Habib. 11:30 Initially, they were called "Al Imam." 11:31 Who was the first one there? 11:32 Ahlul Bayt were initially called Imam. 11:34 Okay. 11:34 There are three generations. There are 11:36 three phases. The first phase was 11:37 called Imam. I forget if it was up to 11:39 Imam Al Muhajir or what, but they were 11:41 called Imam. Habib Muhammad Shatiri 11:43 discusses this issue at length; these 11:45 phases can be looked up in his book, 11:47 God willing. Then the next phase was 11:49 called Sheikh. 11:51 Including the phase of Al-Faqih 11:53 al-Muqaddam. Sayyidina Abdurrahman 11:56 Assegaf was called Sheikh Abdurrahman 11:57 Assegaf. That's why if it's Sheikh Umar 11:59 Mahdar. 12:00 Well, that was still called Sheikh. 12:02 At that time. That was the call for the 12:04 Habaib. 12:05 Okay. 12:06 Sheikh, the Sadah. Then, up to the 12:10 third phase, which I recall starts from 12:12 Qutb al-Anfas Al-Habib Umar bin 12:14 Abdurrahman Al-Attas. 12:17 So the first one to be called Habib was 12:18 Habib Umar bin Abdurrahman Al-Attas. 12:20 The phase began with Umar bin 12:22 Abdurrahman. 12:23 And up to this day, that call applies. 12:27 That's for the men, for the women. 12:29 It is usually called Syarifah. 12:31 Wait a minute, hold on, Sayyid. 12:33 So, this term Habib isn't used in every 12:35 country. 12:36 Usually, some countries call them 12:39 Syarif. 12:40 Oh, okay. 12:41 Syarif. Some countries call them Sayyid 12:44 . Like in Hijaz, it is more dominant to 12:46 be called. 12:47 Sayyid. 12:48 Sayyid. 12:49 Right. Yes. But in any case. 12:51 If it's in Palembang, it's different 12:52 again. 12:52 What is it, Y? 12:53 Ayib. 12:53 Ayib. Ah, the regions are different; 12:56 usually, Palembang has Ayib. 12:58 Yeah. 12:58 In Jakarta, Wan. 13:00 Wan. 13:00 Wan. 13:01 Yeah. 13:01 Uh, in. Cirebon, Ayib too. 13:05 Ayib. Cirebon. 13:06 In East Java. Yeah. 13:07 I. 13:08 Yeah. 13:08 Yes. 13:09 Yes. That's also from Sayyid. 13:11 From Sayyid. Everything is from Sayyid. 13:12 Ayib. From Sayyid. Wan. From Sayyid. 13:15 Wan is the translation of Sayyid. 13:16 Oh. 13:16 Master. 13:17 Oh, master. Oh. 13:18 That gentleman is a master. Hajj. 13:20 Sayyid. Well, I have heard from 13:23 Al-Walid bin Habib Rizq, and I’ve 13:26 observed from Hadhramaut that typically 13:28 , those addressed as "Habib" are those 13:31 who are knowledgeable, possess good 13:33 character, 13:35 and follow the path of their ancestors 13:37 who were prominent figures—those are 13:39 the ones usually called 13:40 Habib. 13:41 A Habib is usually 13:42 someone young who is called a Sayyid. 13:44 Usually, they are called Sayyid. Not 13:45 everyone is called Habib. In fact, we 13:47 remember back in Hadhramaut, not 13:49 everyone was called Habib. Huh. 13:51 It was actually more common to call 13:53 them 'Am.' Am. 'Ammi Salim,' Ammi Hasan 13:56 , 'Ammi Abdul Qadir, for example. Right 13:59 ? Only the elders were called Habib 14:02 back then. So, regardless, whoever uses 14:05 this title with the intention of 14:07 showing respect, hopefully, they will 14:09 receive a reward from Allah Subhanahu 14:11 wa ta'ala. Because "Habib" literally 14:14 means "the beloved." So, if this 14:16 beloved person acts in accordance with 14:18 the commands of Allah Subhanahu wa 14:20 ta'ala. 14:24 The command from Allah the Almighty to 14:25 love the Ahl al-Bayt, the family of the 14:26 Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. 14:27 Then they become the beloved ones. So, 14:29 this title of Habib is actually for the 14:32 Habaib, not for boasting. It should 14:35 actually be a burden. 14:37 If possible, one shouldn't boast about 14:39 it. 14:39 Yes. It becomes a burden. 14:41 The Habaib who bear the title Habib, 14:42 the descendants of the Prophet who bear 14:44 the title Habib, it should be a burden. 14:45 Yes. 14:46 Can you live up to your ancestors? 14:48 Your ancestors were all knowledgeable 14:50 people. 14:50 Yes. 14:51 Huh? That is why Sayyidina Imam Ja'far 14:53 Sadiq, or what was it? Sayyidina 14:54 Muhammad Al-Baqir once said, "Ya waladi 14:56 al-jahlu bi...""...ka aqbah." 14:59 Hmm. "Ya waladi al-jahlu bika aqbah."" 15:02 My son, ignorance is ugly.""But if that 15:05 ignorance is in me or you, it is even 15:08 uglier." 15:09 Because your ancestors were all learned 15:10 people. 15:12 Your lineage consists of scholars. 15:16 Your lineage consists of righteous 15:17 people. 15:19 Your lineage consists of devout 15:20 worshippers, people who were beneficial 15:22 to many. 15:24 So, if you are their descendant, and 15:26 you do not follow their path, that is 15:28 even uglier. H. 15:30 Compared to someone whose lineage is 15:32 unclear, where there is no comparison. 15:34 But you have a comparison. 15:36 So, 15:37 the title of Habib should be a whip, a 15:39 motivation for all descendants of the 15:40 Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. 15:43 How to continue the legacy of their 15:45 ancestors, those righteous people who 15:46 fought for the Prophet's religion and 15:48 were useful to mankind. Do not let it 15:51 be that you are called a Habib, but 15:53 your behavior is not worthy of being 15:54 called one. So, on one hand, the Habaib 15:57 are urged to introspect on how to 15:59 follow the path of their ancestors. 16:23 Even though some Habaib, those with 16:25 extraordinary lineages, say, "Although 16:27 our lineage is golden, it is 16:28 extraordinary, we never rely solely on 16:30 our lineage." 16:33 We build just as those before us built. 16:36 We do what they did. 16:39 On one hand, the Habaib themselves are 16:40 expected to be like that. 16:44 Ah, but on the other hand, for the 16:46 followers of the Prophet, peace be upon 16:48 him, it is a nobility to love the 16:50 descendants of the Prophet. Thank you. 16:55 It’s simple, if our child has a 16:57 teacher, 16:58 we are certainly respectful to our 16:59 teacher's child, 17:00 and our teacher's grandchildren, 17:02 wherever they may be. 17:03 Yes. 17:04 Even in Islamic boarding schools, it's 17:06 a tradition that if the teacher's child 17:08 walks by, we stand up in respect, 17:09 especially in traditional salaf schools 17:11 . 17:12 Salafiah boarding schools. 17:14 It is, uh, automatic. Now, the Prophet 17:17 is our greatest teacher. The Prophet is 17:19 our great teacher. So, there, on one 17:23 hand, the Habib is expected to emulate 17:25 his grandfather. 17:26 Yes. 17:26 And not, you know, abuse the title of 17:30 Habib. On the other hand, the Muslim 17:33 community is expected to love the 17:34 descendants of the Prophet as a form of 17:36 love for the Prophet himself. Now, 17:39 Habib, this is expanding quite a bit. 17:42 Habib, this is indeed a question from 17:44 the people; if we can draw a conclusion 17:47 , the Habib has a great responsibility, 17:50 and for the people, it is a way to 17:52 thank the Prophet. 17:55 Just as the verse you mentioned, " 17:57 asalukum." Say, we prophets do not ask 18:03 for any reward except affection for the 18:05 family of Muhammad, peace be upon him, 18:09 especially the family who are still 18:11 alive today. 18:11 Correct. Absolutely correct. 18:13 And also the family members who have 18:14 passed away, we think well of them and 18:16 pray for them, 18:17 we, you know, visit their graves and so 18:20 on. Our form of respect for them. 18:21 Absolutely true. Now, 18:23 Habib. But 18:24 the continuation regarding the term " 18:26 Sheikh." 18:27 Oh, yes. Sheikh. 18:28 Uh, "Sheikh" is usually a title for an 18:31 elderly person. 18:32 Yes. 18:33 Or someone who is highly respected. 18:36 Someone considered a figure in their 18:38 community, 18:39 or someone knowledgeable is usually 18:40 addressed as Sheikh. Sheikh. 18:42 Uh, then there is also what we call " 18:44 Ustaz" in our country. Ustaz is a title 18:45 for a teacher. Kiai. Kiai is an 18:47 Indonesian term for the same. Kiai is 18:49 actually a Sheikh. 18:50 Oh. 18:52 Kiai, whereas Ustaz in the Middle East 18:54 means professor. 18:55 Hmm. In the Middle East, an Ustaz is a 18:57 professor. But in Indonesia, generally, 18:59 Ustaz is used as a title for a teacher, 19:02 a religious teacher, Ustaz. 19:04 Ah, so how did that continue? 19:06 No. But earlier, what is the origin of 19:08 the word "Kiai," Habib? 19:09 God knows best. God knows best. I don't 19:12 know the root of that word. It's 19:13 Javanese. 19:14 God. I don't understand Javanese. 19:19 Only a little bit. 19:20 Okay. Perhaps if anyone knows the 19:22 origin of the word Kiai, feel free to 19:23 comment below. Yes, feel free if you 19:25 know. 19:25 But they all have the same goal. 19:28 The same goal, meaning a title of 19:30 respect for the people of knowledge. 19:32 Ah, 19:33 the inheritors of the Prophet, peace be 19:35 upon him, 19:36 which is also a nobility for them. 19:40 Same as the Habib, Sayid, and Syarif, 19:42 they are the descendants of the Prophet 19:44 , peace be upon him. 19:46 The ummah is urged to love them as a 19:48 form of respect and gratitude to the 19:51 Prophet. But the Habaib, the Ashraf, 19:54 and the Sayyids themselves are expected 19:56 to be as good as their forefathers. 19:59 Kiai, ustaz, sheikh, ajengan, buya. 20:06 Those are titles for the ulama. Yes. 20:08 These ulama are, on one hand, exalted 20:11 by Allah. "Allah will raise those who 20:13 have believed among you by degrees." 20:15 Allah exalts the people of knowledge. 20:17 Yes. 20:18 They are also expected to practice 20:20 their knowledge. 20:21 Yes. 20:22 They are the inheritors of the Prophet 20:23 Muhammad, peace be upon him. Expected 20:25 to fight for what the Prophet fought 20:27 for. 20:28 That is why the Prophet said, "The 20:30 greatest trials are for the prophets, 20:31 then the ulama, then the next best." 20:33 The greatest trials are for the 20:35 prophets, then the ulama. Because the 20:37 ulama are the inheritors of the 20:38 prophets. So what is inherited is not 20:42 just the Prophet's knowledge, character 20:45 , or virtues, but also the risks of the 20:47 Prophet's struggle. 20:50 If the Prophet was once insulted, the 20:51 ulama are also insulted. They tried to 20:54 harm the Prophet, peace be upon him. 20:56 How many ulama have also been targeted 20:58 for harm? Even harmed. 21:00 If the infidels tried to kill the 21:02 Prophet, the ulama have also been 21:04 targeted for death. How many ulama have 21:06 been killed? If they once tried to 21:09 imprison the Prophet—which was one of 21:12 their options—they tried to imprison 21:14 him. Now, how many ulama have been 21:17 imprisoned? So, on one hand, Allah 21:19 exalts the ulama, but they must also be 21:21 prepared to bear... 21:23 the burden. 21:24 The risk of carrying the baton of the 21:26 Prophet's struggle, peace be upon him. 21:28 But at the same time, we, the ummah, 21:31 are commanded to show reverence to the 21:33 ulama. 21:34 Yes. To respect the ulama because they 21:36 are the inheritors of the prophets. Sit 21:39 with the ulama. Luqman al-Hakim said, " 21:43 O my son, sit with the ulama.""And 21:46 press your knees against their knees." 21:50 Meaning, do not keep your distance. It 21:52 is a metaphor for not staying far away. 21:54 And love them. In a hadith, the Prophet 21:57 says, "Be a scholar, a student, a 21:59 listener, or a lover, and do not be the 22:01 fifth, for you will perish." Be a 22:03 person of knowledge. If you cannot be a 22:05 scholar, study under a scholar. If you 22:06 cannot study, at least listen. If you 22:08 cannot, at least love them. 22:10 And do not be the fifth. Don't be 22:12 someone who is not a scholar, not a 22:14 student, not a listener, and not a 22:15 lover, but instead harbors hatred. 22:18 When mothers attend a study circle, 22:19 they get criticized. "Why are these 22:20 mothers so fond of attending study 22:21 circles?" I won't mention the names. 22:26 There are some. 22:27 There are. 22:28 Mothers too. 22:28 Mothers too. 22:29 Habib. So, Habaib and Habib are titles, 22:34 just as ulama is a title. Each has 22:37 rights and obligations, each has 22:39 privileges, but each also has a heavy 22:41 responsibility. Habib, in the past, the 22:44 Prophet was insulted, but those who 22:46 insulted him were clearly the infidels. 22:49 But sometimes, why do today's scholars 22:51 who criticize and even insult others 22:53 also claim to represent the religion or 22:56 call themselves preachers and scholars? 22:59 Uh, those who insulted the Prophet 23:01 weren't just the disbelievers. 23:03 Hypocrites also often insulted the 23:05 Prophet. 23:07 Those insults weren't just in the form 23:09 of words, but also in the form of 23:12 betrayal. 23:13 Insults also came in the form of 23:15 sabotage. Yes. 23:17 So let's not forget that the obstacles 23:19 to our struggle are not just external 23:21 from the disbelievers. 23:23 That's right. 23:24 But also, since the Prophet's time, it 23:25 has been a divine decree that internal 23:27 strife comes from the hypocrites. In 23:30 fact, how many verses in the Quran does 23:33 Allah discuss regarding the hypocrites, 23:35 who became a thorn in the side of the 23:38 struggle and enemies from within? So 23:42 it's the same. 23:44 Now and then, it's the same. 23:45 How so? 23:45 Days rotate among people. 23:49 The days are merely a repetition of 23:51 what has happened before. As my teacher 23:55 Habib Ahmad bin Saleh said, the 23:57 liberals, the disbelievers, and the 23:59 hypocrites we see today have actually 24:01 all been encountered by those in the 24:03 past. 24:04 That is true. The stories are already 24:07 there. 24:07 The stories already exist, it's just a 24:09 repetition. 24:10 So we shouldn't be surprised. The cheat 24:11 sheet actually already exists. 24:12 The cheat sheet is already there. 24:14 We just have to face this test. 24:15 We just have to face it the way the 24:17 Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, 24:18 faced it. As laypeople, Habib, when we 24:22 see these scholars sometimes 24:24 disagreeing, sometimes at odds with 24:27 each other, and sometimes criticizing 24:29 each other in public, how should we as 24:32 laypeople respond? It's not possible 24:35 for us to... 24:37 They say it's impolite if we take sides 24:39 with one scholar and then criticize 24:40 another. Even though we are just 24:42 laypeople with no knowledge and so on. 24:44 How should we act, Habib? Attitude. 24:46 Well, first, mutual criticism among 24:49 scholars is actually a normal 24:51 phenomenon. Criticizing and debating 24:56 intensely among scholars, as long as 24:58 they have good intentions and the same 25:01 goals, as long as they are both 25:03 Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jama'ah, and as long 25:06 as their ultimate goal is Allah and His 25:08 Messenger, then mutual criticism and 25:11 attacking each other is actually normal 25:13 . It is the requirement of knowledge. 25:18 Sometimes there are differences of 25:19 opinion. I am speaking of rather harsh 25:21 criticism here. Yes. 25:23 I will give you an example, such as the 25:26 one between Imam Al-Mawardi, may Allah 25:28 be pleased with him, and Imam 25:30 al-Haramayn. Imam Mawardi, the author 25:34 of the book Al-Ahkam as-Sultaniyyah. 25:36 Imam al-Haramayn, the author of the 25:39 book Al-Ghiyathi. And also Nihayat 25:42 al-Matlab. Great books. These were 25:46 contemporary scholars. Imam Mawardi and 25:49 Imam al-Haramayn lived close to each 25:51 other's time, but they criticized each 25:53 other quite harshly. So Imam Mawardi 25:57 attacked Imam al-Haramayn. Imam 25:59 al-Haramayn also attacked the views of 26:02 Imam Mawardi, and the language used was 26:04 quite strong. 26:06 If we look at it, I'll give an example, 26:08 I won't name it here, but I will give 26:10 an example. There were Imams who 26:12 allowed the Wazir at-Tanfidh (executive 26:15 minister) to be from non-Muslim circles 26:17 . An executive minister is merely an 26:19 implementer, they cannot create 26:21 policies. 26:21 Okay. 26:22 The view that ministers who only serve 26:25 as executors are permitted according to 26:28 Imam al-Mawardi was refuted entirely by 26:30 Imam al-Haramayn. And the language used 26:33 by Imam al-Haramayn was rather harsh. 26:35 When refuting the opinion of Imam 26:36 al-Mawardi. 26:37 But regardless, as students of 26:40 knowledge or as laypeople, we see that 26:43 Imam al-Mawardi had all his greatness. 26:47 And Imam al-Haramayn also had all his 26:49 greatness. Both belong to the Shafi'i 26:51 school of thought. Both are truly great 26:54 scholars. 26:55 Both are equal references. 26:57 Both are equally authoritative. Right. 26:59 And we know that both were righteous 27:00 men. 27:01 I am even convinced by the breadth of 27:03 their knowledge and the impact of their 27:05 scholarship that they both must be 27:07 considered saints of Allah. 27:08 Masha Allah. 27:09 Yes. I have a very good opinion of them 27:11 . Meaning, regardless of the fierce 27:14 debate between them, we can still have 27:16 a good opinion of both. 27:18 Yes. 27:19 As long as both had the goal of serving 27:21 Allah and His Messenger. Indeed, both 27:23 are known for their piety. 27:25 Yes. Yes. Yes. 27:26 Let me give another example with an 27:28 even more intense debate. Yes. 27:30 Between Imam al-Suyuti and al-Sakhawi. 27:33 Imam al-Suyuti was a great scholar; 27:36 according to Habib Salim al-Shatiri, if 27:40 I am not mistaken, Imam al-Suyuti wrote 27:43 over 1,000 works. 27:45 Allahu Akbar. Maybe he wrote one book a 27:48 day. 27:49 And Imam al-Suyuti's works are 27:51 references in almost every field of 27:54 study. I will first mention Imam 27:57 al-Suyuti and Imam al-Sakhawi. Al-Hafiz 27:59 al-Sakhawi, both are great scholars. As 28:02 I mentioned, Imam al-Suyuti was a great 28:04 scholar with many works, and his books 28:06 aren't just ordinary writings, they are 28:08 references in almost every field. If we 28:10 talk about tafsir, one of the famous 28:11 references is Jalalayn by Imam 28:13 al-Suyuti and Imam al-Mahalli. If we 28:15 talk about usul fiqh, a famous 28:17 reference is the poem Jam' al-Jawami ' 28:20 by Imam al-Suyuti. It's famous. We talk 28:23 about fiqh rules. One of the famous 28:26 works in the science of fiqh rules or 28:27 jurisprudence is al-Ashbah wa 28:28 al-Naza'ir by Imam al-Suyuti. When 28:29 talking about rhetoric, Imam al-Suyuti 28:32 also has a book on balagha. In almost 28:35 all fields, including hadith, his works 28:39 are bridges to reach the primary 28:41 sources. 28:44 There is Jami' al-Saghir by Imam 28:45 al-Suyuti, and Jami 'al-Kabir by Imam 28:47 al-Suyuti. If we talk about mustalah 28:51 al-hadith, there is Tadrib al-Rawi by 28:53 Imam al-Suyuti, which is truly 28:55 extraordinary. Imam al-Suyuti was a 28:58 truly great scholar. On the other side, 29:01 there is Imam al-Sakhawi. 29:04 Imam al-Sakhawi was also a great 29:07 scholar. Al-Hafiz. When someone is 29:09 called "al-Hafiz" nowadays, it's not 29:11 like today where just memorizing the 29:12 Quran makes you an al-Hafiz. "Al-Hafiz" 29:14 was a title of academic rank in the 29:17 field of hadith science. Meaning they 29:19 memorized 100,000 hadiths. Allahu Akbar 29:20 . Al-Sakhawi. Al-Hafiz al-Suyuti. 29:23 Al-Hafiz al-Sakhawi. Al-Sakhawi also 29:26 had many works in history and the 29:28 science of hadith. He also had 29:30 commentaries on al-Taqrib. The 29:32 commentary by al-Sakhawi on al-Taqrib 29:33 by Imam al-Nawawi. A great scholar. 29:36 Both were great scholars. Both are 29:37 pious men. Both are Shafi'i. Both are 29:41 truly Asja. Both are people whom anyone 29:44 watching can see are sincere, for the 29:47 sake of Allah. But there was a fierce 29:51 debate; Imam Sakhawi even used language 29:54 mocking Imam Suyuti as a plagiarist. 29:57 To that extent. Imam Suyuti also 30:00 attacked Imam Sakhawi in his writings 30:03 while writing biographies. So, in the 30:05 books of biographies, the scholars of 30:07 their time were written down. When 30:09 mentioning Imam Sakhawi, he was very 30:11 harsh. 30:11 They criticized each other in public. 30:13 In their books. The books still exist 30:15 today. 30:15 My goodness. 30:16 It was no longer public. Inherited from 30:18 generation to generation. But this 30:21 doesn't stop us from having a good 30:23 opinion of Sakhawi and a good opinion 30:24 of Imam Suyuti. 30:26 Learning lessons from 30:27 Imam Suyuti remains Suyuti with all his 30:29 knowledge and greatness. 30:30 Yeah. 30:31 Imam Sakhawi remains Imam Sakhawi with 30:32 all his knowledge and greatness. Both 30:34 are references, both are sources, even 30:36 though they attacked each other. 30:38 Now, how do we face that difference, 30:40 Habib? Ah, so that is how we remain; if 30:43 we look at it, these scholars are both 30:46 sincere people. If people are sincere, 30:48 we can see it with our inner hearts. 30:49 Yes. True. Very true. 30:51 People whose goal is not the world are 30:52 indeed sincere people. Both are truly 30:55 learned people. Both are truly pious 30:58 people. We have never seen either of 31:01 them commit sins or openly show sins. 31:04 Neither is a flatterer of power or a 31:06 flatterer of wealth. Yeah. 31:08 Both are pious, so let's have a good 31:10 opinion of both. 31:11 Hm. 31:12 Consider their differences as 31:13 differences in their ijtihad to seek 31:15 Allah's pleasure. 31:15 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. 31:18 If the discussion is just this, it's a 31:20 different discussion, but I see this 31:22 could be a principle applied in many 31:24 sectors. As Imam al-Ash'ari, may Allah 31:27 have mercy on him, said. "Witness that 31:30 I do not declare any person of the 31:32 Qibla an infidel, because they all 31:34 worship the One God." Imam Ash'ari said 31:39 , "Witness that I do not declare any 31:41 Muslim an infidel even if they have a 31:42 different sect than me." 31:44 He does not easily declare people 31:45 infidels. Said Imam Ash'ari. Witness 31:47 that, said Imam Ash'ari. 31:48 Why? Because at their core, they all 31:50 worship Allah. 31:51 Yes, that's right. 31:52 There are only differences in 31:54 expressing and describing Allah and so 31:57 on. Although there is still truth and 31:59 falsehood, and there are odd opinions, 32:01 he did not easily declare them infidels 32:03 . Now, I am not talking about that; 32:05 that's another discussion. But I am 32:08 talking about when two scholars are 32:10 both pious, both upright, both good, 32:12 and they attack or criticize each other 32:14 , what prevents us from having a good 32:16 opinion of both? 32:18 What stops us from taking the good from 32:20 both of them? 32:21 From both of them. 32:22 Amazing. Amazing. Mashallah. That's one 32:24 , Habib. 32:25 Yeah. 32:25 But the second thing, there is 32:27 something more dangerous now. 32:28 True. True. Uh, we touched on this 32:31 earlier, but since the conversation 32:33 wandered, we forgot to discuss it even 32:35 though we planned to. 32:38 We had a little secret chat earlier 32:39 before starting the recording. You know 32:42 how it goes when you're just chatting. 32:44 Well, there are two dangerous phenomena 32:47 . 32:48 Actually, there is one dangerous 32:49 phenomenon, excuse me, 32:49 that is happening now. 32:51 That is occurring at this moment. And I 32:52 see this as a game played by these 32:53 internet trolls. Returning to your 32:55 initial question. Currently, there is 32:58 an attempt to pit the Habaib against 33:03 the non-Habib clerics. 33:09 Uh, so it's as if the Habaib are 33:11 considered competitors to the clerics. 33:13 Clerics. Yes. Fighting for 33:15 clerics as competitors to the Habaib. 33:17 Fighting for the stage. Fighting for a 33:19 spot to sell sarongs. As he says, it's 33:21 noisy because they're both selling 33:22 sarongs, in his words. Back to what 33:24 Habib said earlier, as long as we see 33:26 the person is sincere, there's no 33:28 reason for us [to object]. 33:29 Yes. We see [they are] sincere and 33:31 honest 33:32 uh, truly in accordance with the Sharia 33:33 of Allah. 33:34 Now, 33:35 this is dangerous, this phenomenon. In 33:38 fact, it's not just pitting the Habaib 33:40 against the scholars, 33:42 but pitting the Habaib against the 33:44 natives. 33:45 Oh. 33:46 Using that term, "natives." 33:48 Huh. When Anies was first inaugurated 33:51 and he mentioned "natives,""natives," 33:53 they immediately wanted to take legal 33:55 action. 33:55 But these internet trolls scream " 33:57 natives" every day, even though the 33:58 language is racist and fascist. 34:00 Yes. 34:00 Uh, it is ignored. 34:01 Because we aren't "natives." 34:03 Ah, but one thing that needs to be 34:06 underlined, this movement to create 34:09 conflict is dangerous. This is a 34:12 racist-fascist movement. This racist 34:15 movement is condemned worldwide; it is 34:17 outdated. This is extremely racist. The 34:20 first people who should be arrested 34:22 under the ITE law are those who create 34:24 these conflicts based on tribes, uh, 34:26 with tribal divisions and so on. This 34:30 is truly very dangerous. Second, the 34:34 Habaib are the grandchildren of the 34:36 Prophet, the grandchildren of the 34:37 Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him. 34:41 Meanwhile, the scholars are the heirs 34:44 of the Prophets. Yeah. 34:47 Both of them have been ordered by the 34:49 Messenger of Allah for us to follow. We 34:53 are commanded by the Messenger of Allah 34:54 , peace be upon him, ... "I leave 34:59 behind for you two precious things; if 35:01 you hold firmly to both, you will never 35:03 go astray.""The Book of Allah and my 35:06 family," said the Messenger of Allah, 35:07 my progeny, my Ahlul Bait, who until 35:09 now, until the Day of Judgment, will 35:11 not cease to exist, according to the 35:13 words of the Prophet, peace be upon him 35:15 . Uh, the word of Allah the Almighty, 35:21 my Prophet's family, until the Day of 35:25 Judgment; it is guaranteed by the 35:26 Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, 35:28 that the descendants of the Messenger 35:29 of Allah, peace be upon him, will 35:30 continue to multiply. So, we are 35:32 commanded, the Muslim community is 35:34 commanded to hold firmly to the family 35:36 of the Messenger of Allah. And the 35:39 scholars are the heirs of the Prophet, 35:41 so the Muslim community is also 35:43 commanded to hold firmly to the 35:45 scholars. 35:46 Yeah. 35:47 Because we did not experience the 35:48 Messenger of Allah. 35:49 We are told to follow the Messenger of 35:51 Allah. Uh, the Messenger of Allah is a 35:57 beautiful example. The Prophet is an 35:59 example, a guide, a role model. Now, we 36:02 didn't see the Messenger of Allah. We 36:03 live long after the time of the 36:05 Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him. 36:06 We didn't experience the Prophet. We 36:08 didn't even experience the Companions. 36:09 Where do we learn about the Prophet? 36:11 Yes, from the scholars. 36:12 Yeah. 36:12 With their chain of knowledge, with 36:14 their chain of spiritual training 36:16 reaching back to the Messenger of Allah 36:18 , peace be upon him. "So ask the people 36:20 of the message if you do not know." 36:22 Whatever we do not know, we are told to 36:23 follow the scholars. Listen to the 36:24 scholars. How many hadiths command us 36:27 to follow the heirs of the Prophet, 36:28 peace be upon him. Scholars are the 36:30 heirs of the prophets. So if we are 36:32 intelligent, there is nothing that 36:34 needs to be pitted against each other. 36:37 Yeah. And history proves that between 36:40 the Habaib, or the descendants of the 36:42 Messenger of Allah, or the Ahlul Bait, 36:44 and the scholars, there has been 36:46 synergy and mutual respect since the 36:47 time of the Companions. 36:50 I will give an example among the Ahlul 36:52 Bait of the Prophet, which is Sayyidina 36:54 Abdullah bin Abbas. Abdullah bin Abbas 36:56 was both Ahlul Bait and a scholar. The 36:58 Interpreter of the Quran, Sayyidina 36:59 Abdullah bin Abbas, may Allah be 37:00 pleased with them both. He was even 37:05 prayed for by the Prophet, "O Allah, 37:07 teach him the interpretation..." there 37:10 are many narrations, and there was 37:13 another companion, Sayyidina Zaid bin 37:16 Tsabit, may Allah be pleased with him. 37:20 Sayyidina Zaid bin Tsabit was among the 37:23 scholars of the Companions. Sayyidina 37:25 Zaid bin Tsabit. Once, Sayyidina Zaid 37:28 bin Tsabit was out with his mount, 37:30 whether it was a horse or a camel. 37:33 Going out with his mount. Sayyidina 37:35 Abdullah bin Abbas was there. Sayyidina 37:38 Abdullah bin Abbas immediately 37:39 approached Sayyidina Zaid bin Tsabit's 37:41 mount. The reins were held by Sayyidina 37:42 Abdullah bin Abbas. Sayyidina Abdullah 37:44 bin Abbas led the mount of Sayyidina 37:46 Zaid bin 37:47 bin Tsabit. Zaid bin Tsabit felt 37:50 uncomfortable. Ahlul Bait, Abdullah bin 37:52 Abbas. Oh Messenger of Allah. "O cousin 37:57 of the Messenger of Allah, do not do 37:58 this.""Do not do it." It is not right, 38:00 how could the cousin of the Messenger 38:01 of Allah lead his mount, it is not 38:03 right. What was the answer of Sayyidina 38:04 Abdullah bin Abbas? "Thus we are 38:05 commanded to treat our scholars." 38:07 Allah. "We, the Ahlul Bait, are 38:10 commanded to treat scholars like this." 38:12 Respect and honor toward scholars. And 38:16 what happened? Sayyidina Zaid bin 38:18 Tsabit was also very wise and learned. 38:20 Even though Abdullah bin Abbas was a 38:21 great scholar. 38:22 He was a scholar. He was a Companion 38:24 and a great scholar. The Interpreter of 38:26 the Quran. 38:27 The number one reference for exegesis 38:29 among the Companions, with the most 38:30 narrations, is Sayyidina Abdullah bin 38:32 Abbas. Number one before all others. 38:35 Amazing, Sayyidina Abdullah bin Abbas. 38:37 But he still 38:39 led 38:40 led the mount of Sayyidina Zaid bin 38:42 Tsabit with the reason: "Thus we are 38:43 commanded to treat our scholars." There 38:46 is no god but Allah. Then Sayyidina 38:48 Zaid bin Tsabit was not lacking in 38:50 wisdom either. With his intelligence, 38:52 he said, "O Abdullah bin Abbas, where 38:54 is your hand, show me your hand?" As 38:56 soon as Sayyidina Abdullah bin Abbas 38:58 showed his hand to Zaid bin Tsabit, he 39:00 kissed his hand. 39:01 Sayyidina Abdullah bin Abbas's hand was 39:03 kissed by Zaid bin Tsabit. 39:04 Zaid bin Tsabit said, "What?""Thus we 39:06 are commanded to treat the family of 39:07 the Prophet." 39:08 Allah, how beautiful it is. 39:09 Allah. This is how we are taught to 39:11 respect the Ahlul Bait of the Messenger 39:12 of Allah, peace be upon him. The 39:14 Companions already showed how the 39:16 synergy 39:17 is between scholars and the Ahlul Bait. 39:20 Or in our current language, between the 39:22 Kyai and the Habaib. 39:24 Not to mention from generation to 39:26 generation, the non-Habib scholars and 39:27 the Habaib have mutually taken 39:29 knowledge from each other, 39:32 Learning from each other. Well, we 39:34 don't need to look far, it's right in 39:36 front of us. How Habaib and non-Habaib 39:39 learn from one another. Personally, my 39:41 teachers aren't just from the Habaib. 39:44 Many of my teachers are non-Habaib. To 39:46 me, their sandals are above my head. I 39:49 studied in the past with K.H. Qaimuddin 39:51 Abdullah, a great scholar. I studied 39:54 under my teacher, Dr. Salahuddin Hasyim 39:56 . I studied with my teachers, Ustaz 40:00 Makil Zuwardi, Ustaz Syikhi, and many 40:03 other non-Habaib teachers. Ustaz Ibn 40:07 Hajar, Ustaz Zaki, Ustaz Zubair, Ustaz 40:10 Shihin, Ustaz Amin, all my teachers 40:13 like Ustaz Abdul Hamid Pasuruan, Ustaz 40:16 As'ad, and so on. They aren't Habaib, 40:18 but we learn from them and show them 40:20 deep respect, like Ustaz Hasan Basri. 40:22 Not to mention my teachers at Al-Falah. 40:24 And even now, I still study Hikam with 40:26 K.H. Maulana Kamal Yusuf. We also study 40:29 with K.H. Mahfud Asirun in Petamburan. 40:31 Every Thursday, he also teaches us 40:33 Ulumul Quran. This means the 40:35 relationship is truly beautiful. 40:38 And conversely, many non-Habaib also 40:40 learn from the Habaib. In the past, all 40:42 the Kyais studied with Habib Ali Habsyi 40:44 Kwitang. And Habib, Kyai Mualim Syafii 40:48 Hadami. The Betawi Kyai Mualim. A great 40:52 learned jurist. He studied under... 40:57 Habib Ali Bungur, Habib Ali bin Husein 40:59 Alattas. 41:00 There is even a written ijaza from 41:02 Habib Ali bin Husein Alattas for Mualim 41:04 Syafii Hadami. 41:05 It is included on the front pages of 41:08 the latest edition of the Tajul Aras 41:10 book, the ijaza from Habib Ali Bungur 41:12 to Mualim Syafii Hadami. An 41:16 extraordinary, close relationship. We 41:18 are commanded to act through our 41:19 scholars, and commanded to act through 41:21 the Prophet's descendants. These are 41:23 two things that must go hand in hand. 41:26 Both are guardians of the Ummah. Both 41:28 are equally heirs of the Prophet. One 41:31 is an heir to the Prophet genetically, 41:34 the other is an heir to the Prophet ( 41:35 peace be upon him) through knowledge. 41:39 And there are many Habaib who are both 41:41 descendants and scholars. 41:43 So, it is very naive to pit them 41:46 against each other. You see, those who 41:48 sow discord are the ones who want to 41:50 destroy the Islamic Ummah. 41:51 Yes, that's right. They want to ruin 41:53 Islam. 41:53 Yes. 41:55 Their language has even become much 41:58 coarser now. Using terms like "Yemeni 42:00 immigrants" and such. 42:01 My question is simple, what have the 42:03 Habaib done wrong? 42:04 What are they fighting for? What do 42:06 they get for themselves? 42:08 Enriching themselves? 42:10 Not really. 42:11 Seeking positions, right? No. 42:14 If someone like Habib Rizieq wanted to 42:16 get rich, he would just look for a safe 42:18 position rather than speaking about 42:20 risky issues. 42:21 True. True. 42:22 If he had chosen the safe path, he 42:24 would be living in comfort. No going in 42:27 and out of prison, no need for hijrah, 42:29 and so on. I see those who stir up 42:34 conflict as people who want to divide 42:36 the community, who want to create an 42:39 unconducive situation, and who truly 42:41 want to distance the community from the 42:44 Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. 42:48 Yes. So whether it's distancing the 42:54 community from the Habaib or distancing 42:56 them from the scholars, both sides 42:57 equally want to distance the community 42:58 from the Prophet Muhammad, peace be 43:00 upon him. Especially those trying to 43:02 pit the two against each other. 43:03 How saddened the Prophet Muhammad, 43:05 peace be upon him, must be 43:06 when his Ahlul Bait are pitted against 43:08 his heirs. 43:09 O Allah. I cannot imagine how those who 43:12 do this will face the Prophet later. 43:14 Especially since those being pitted are 43:16 Ahlul Bait, who are also heirs of the 43:17 scholars. Indeed. 43:18 O Allah. 43:19 How will they face the Prophet later? 43:21 May Allah protect us. 43:22 With what face will they meet the 43:23 Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him? O 43:25 Allah. 43:26 Regarding differences in approach— 43:29 soft, firm, assertive, polite. That is 43:33 just a difference in method. Yes. 43:36 Just as such differences existed among 43:38 the companions. Yes. Habib. Both are 43:45 considered firm. 43:48 Habib Ali is incredibly gentle. 43:51 I think if we can have a good opinion, 43:53 and we are told to have a good opinion 43:55 of sinners, 43:56 why can't we have a good opinion of the 43:58 Habaib and the scholars? 43:59 Yes. Wow, that's so true. 44:00 We always talk about having a good 44:01 opinion of Allah and His servants. Good 44:03 opinion of Allah, good opinion of 44:05 Allah's servants. 44:06 Even the sinners, 44:07 even the sinners. Why can't we? 44:09 Oh, if they sin, we advise them. But 44:12 after that, we think well, perhaps they 44:13 have repented and their repentance is 44:15 accepted by Allah. 44:16 We can invite others to have a good 44:17 opinion of sinners. Why can't we invite 44:18 people to have a good opinion of those 44:20 who have a different approach than us? 44:21 Even though they are righteous people. 44:23 O Allah, send blessings upon our master 44:25 Muhammad. Habib. Masyaallah, Habib. 44:26 Thank you so much, Habib, for the 44:27 knowledge. 44:28 Masyaallah. It didn't feel like much 44:29 time. 44:29 It really didn't. 44:30 Ah, the time. 44:31 Time. It is recorded but will be played 44:35 during Fajr on the radio and at any 44:37 time. Brothers and sisters, if you want 44:39 to watch via Habib's YouTube. This is 44:41 the last question, Habib. If we 44:43 encounter someone whose lineage is 44:45 clearly that of the Prophet Muhammad, 44:47 peace be upon him, but they behave in a 44:49 way that deviates from the teachings of 44:51 the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him 44:53 . 44:54 What should our attitude be? Yes, 44:56 advise them, advise them. The Prophet 44:58 Muhammad, peace be upon him, once gave 45:02 an example when there was a woman from 45:06 the Makhzum tribe. This is a very 45:10 popular hadith, she was an aristocrat, 45:12 of noble blood. They wanted to cut off 45:15 her hand because she stole. In essence, 45:19 they wanted to carry out criminal 45:20 punishment upon her. There were 45:22 companions who tried to lobby the 45:24 Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, 45:25 because this woman was of noble blood, 45:26 and the impact could be significant. 45:29 So that she wouldn't be punished, 45:31 or that the punishment would be reduced 45:32 , or something else. 45:34 What was the Prophet's response, peace 45:35 be upon him? The Prophet said: "Are you 45:37 trying to intercede regarding the 45:39 boundaries of Allah? Indeed, the 45:41 communities before you were destroyed 45:43 because they let their high-ranking 45:45 people go free while punishing the weak 45:47 . By Allah, even if Fatima, daughter of 45:49 Muhammad, stole, I would cut off her 45:51 hand." 45:53 Meaning, 45:54 the Prophet was angry, the Prophet said 45:57 , "You want to be lenient in enforcing 45:59 the law of Allah?" 46:00 Yes. "You want to play around?""Trying 46:03 to lobby?" The Prophet was angry. In 46:05 essence, the Prophet said that previous 46:07 communities were destroyed because of 46:10 things like this. If a common person 46:13 commits a mistake, they are punished. 46:16 But when it comes to the powerful, the 46:17 noble, or elites, they are left alone. 46:20 They find excuses so they don't have to 46:22 be punished. This is what destroyed 46:24 nations of the past. The Prophet (PBUH) 46:26 wanted to warn us not to let this 46:27 community be destroyed by such things. 46:30 The Prophet even gave examples—these 46:32 are just hypothetical scenarios, 46:34 meaning it didn't actually happen. 46:37 But sometimes, the greater the example, 46:40 the more 46:41 firm. 46:42 The more firm. 46:44 Sayyidatuna Fatimah (may Allah be 46:47 pleased with her) is a pure, noble 46:50 woman whom we believe was protected by 46:53 Allah. She is the flesh and blood of 46:56 the Messenger of Allah (PBUH). 46:58 She is surely protected by Allah SWT. 47:02 It is impossible, absolutely impossible 47:04 , for Sayyidatuna Fatimah to steal. 47:07 This is a woman raised in the household 47:09 of the Messenger of Allah (PBUH). I use 47:11 the word "impossible" because it simply 47:15 could not and did not happen. She is 47:17 the most noble woman, the flesh and 47:19 blood of the Prophet. In fact, some 47:20 scholars say the most noble woman is 47:22 Sayyidatuna Fatimatuz Zahra. Surpassing 47:25 everyone because she is the Prophet's 47:27 flesh and blood. But what example did 47:30 the Prophet give? "Even if my beloved 47:33 daughter Fatimah bint Muhammad were to 47:36 steal, I would cut off her hand." 47:38 Hm. 47:40 The Prophet knew Sayyidatuna Fatimah 47:41 would never steal. But the Prophet just 47:43 wanted to teach this community. He gave 47:45 the example of the best of women. 47:46 Yes. 47:47 He gave the example of the person most 47:48 beloved to the Prophet (PBUH). Allah. 47:51 That is the example given. It means the 47:53 Prophet showed there is no favoritism 47:55 in upholding the law. The Prophet. 47:56 What more, if it's a descendant of the 47:57 30th generation? 47:58 So, if there are Habaib who violate the 48:02 Prophet's law or stray from his 48:05 teachings, our obligation to them is 48:08 the same as it is to any other Muslim 48:12 who breaks the Prophet's rules. If a 48:15 Muslim violates the Prophet's law, what 48:16 should we do? Remind them gently. 48:19 Reprove them, enjoining good and 48:20 forbidding evil with all the proper 48:22 levels and processes. 48:24 And, the reproof should be fueled by 48:28 our love for them. 48:30 Like how we reprimand our own children. 48:32 Yes. Reprimanding someone we love. I 48:34 say, "I love you.""You are a grandchild 48:36 of the Prophet." 48:37 Reprimand them well, with good 48:38 character. 48:39 Yes. 48:39 With courtesy. Just as one would surely 48:42 be proud if there is 48:43 And the Prophet will be proud of those 48:45 who give that reminder. 48:45 Yeah. Yeah. 48:46 What matters is doing it in a good way 48:49 and with love, not with malice. 48:51 There are those whose reproof comes 48:52 from malice. Ah, that is a different 48:54 story. But reprove them with the 48:56 reprimand of love. 48:58 To anyone, we must also listen. 49:00 Clarify. Especially if the descendant 49:02 of the Prophet is a scholar, seek 49:03 clarification. "Why are you acting like 49:05 that?""What is your reason for acting 49:07 like that?" Maybe they have a reason. 49:09 Maybe they have a justification from 49:10 the perspective of Sharia or otherwise. 49:12 Clarify. 49:13 Now, Masha'Allah. Jazakumullah khair, 49:15 Alu. 49:17 My goodness, it doesn't feel like we've 49:18 been chatting with the Habib for an 49:19 hour. By Allah, this is truly 49:21 substantial knowledge. 49:23 Not in vain. Masha'Allah, waiting for 49:25 it, Alhamdulillah, hopefully, the 49:26 fasting goes smoothly. 49:28 Until the 30th day, may we reach the 49:30 night of Lailatul Qadar. And don't 49:33 forget, all listeners, the results 49:35 take care of these last few nights. 49:37 Yes, that's right. 49:38 Don't let it slip away, 49:39 the Night of Decree (Lailatul Qadar). 49:40 Hopefully, we all get it, God willing. 49:42 Amen. Amen. God willing. 10 days, but 49:44 the impact can last a lifetime. Let's 49:46 maximize these 10 days, 49:48 because the impact can last our whole 49:49 lives, even into the afterlife. 49:50 Maximize it with what? 49:52 Well, with lots of i'tikaf (seclusion), 49:54 reading the Quran, don't miss 49:56 congregational prayers, don't miss 49:58 Tarawih, don't waste time. When the 50:01 Prophet entered the last 10 days of 50:03 Ramadan, he would tighten his belt, 50:06 stay awake at night, and wake his 50:07 family. The Prophet, upon entering the 50:10 last 10 days of Ramadan, would observe 50:11 i'tikaf, 50:12 he would even tighten his sarong, 50:15 meaning it's a metaphor 50:17 for earnestness, 50:18 for deep commitment, 50:20 what you call it, he would keep his 50:23 nights alive and wake up his family. 50:27 So, don't waste time because in 50:29 Indonesia, there's a bad culture where 50:31 it's crowded at the start of Ramadan 50:33 and empty at the end. This is backwards 50:37 . 50:37 Then at Eid, it gets crowded again. 50:38 Yes, it gets crowded again only at Eid. 50:40 This is such a pity, a huge loss. It 50:42 should be even more crowded at the end. 50:44 That's right. 50:45 If we look at the Masjidil Haram, it's 50:46 most crowded during these last 10 50:48 nights. The same goes for the Prophet's 50:49 Mosque. 50:51 But, mashallah, I don't know why. Maybe 50:53 because of the longing due to COVID and 50:56 so on. This year, what I see 50:58 in the mosques, 50:59 thankfully, there is no decline. 51:01 Alhamdulillah. 51:02 Usually, in the middle, 51:03 it usually tapers off. It thins out, 51:05 but not this time. 51:06 It's consistent. In fact, some mosques 51:08 around here are full up to the parking 51:11 lots. Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah. 51:13 Good news for us all. 51:15 Mangosteen peel now has its extract. 51:18 Isn't it good news that the Muslims' 51:21 enthusiasm doesn't fade in the middle 51:23 of Ramadan? 51:24 Thank you, Habib. My goodness, oh God. 51:27 What can I say other than thank you, Oh 51:29 God, for this visit. Mashallah. 51:31 Alhamdulillah. Oh God, hopefully the 51:34 Ziarah Empang earlier is accepted by 51:36 Allah SWT. 51:36 Amen, God willing. 51:37 Sometime, please tell us, Habib, who is 51:40 the Habib buried at Empang? 51:42 Sure, we can talk about it sometime. 51:44 God willing, and about the Habaib 51:47 around Jakarta, perhaps, 51:48 it's allowed. Because the stories of 51:50 pious people are "jundun min junudillah 51:52 ." They are soldiers of God who 51:54 motivate our hearts to emulate them. 51:57 So, this is a promise that next time, 51:59 Habib AF will explain about 52:01 God knows best. May everything be 52:04 smooth and everyone stays healthy 52:06 always. Jazakumullah. Thank you very 52:08 much to Kang Atep who has 52:10 accompanied us this far. Thanks also to 52:12 Kang Anis Mualim, the operator. Thanks 52:15 also to the brothers and sisters who 52:16 have listened this far. Don't forget to 52:20 share this video with others, to 52:22 relatives, to friends, so that many can 52:24 benefit from what Habib Hanif just 52:27 shared. Brothers and sisters, I, Isa 52:29 Alkaf, and the crew on duty, ask to 52:31 take our leave. Let us close together 52:33 by reciting the Kaffaratul Majelis 52:34 prayer. Subhanakallahumma wabihamdika 52:37 ashadu alla ilaha illa anta 52:38 astaghfiruka. Assalamu'alaikum 52:40 warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. 52:41 Wa'alaikumussalam warahmatullah. 
