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0:00 About 10 years, and it just so happened 0:02 that at that radio station there was 0:04 Yasir Denhas, a senior there, right? 0:06 The voice of glory. 0:07 Yes, the voice of glory. Then I felt, 0:10 oh, why only be on the radio? I want to 0:14 grow. Ah. 0:16 If on the radio it’s just the voice, 0:17 I want my physical appearance to be out 0:18 there too. Thank God I’m also 0:22 handsome. 0:24 Finally, I asked Bang Yasir, "Bang 0:27 Yasir, when is there an opening at TVRI 0:29 ?" Heh. " 0:31 Oh, I'll let you know later." 0:34 Then, one day he said, "There is one, 0:36 Yan, but it's not really for you; 0:38 you're suited for entertainment in the 0:40 studio, like hosting a show."" 0:43 The only one open right now is for 0:45 government news.""Ah, it's fine, I 0:47 don't mind, I want to try and see what 0:49 it's like." I signed up, Mas Kris. I 0:53 submitted my application and then I was 0:55 going to be tested. 0:57 Because I was still in college at the 0:59 time, Mas Kris, 1:00 I thought, "Ah, I'll get a haircut 1:02 later." 1:03 It was long. 1:08 In the end, I didn't have time, I 1:10 didn't have time to get a haircut. 1:12 Well, just go for it anyway. 1:14 Besides, in my mind, I really just 1:16 wanted to know what being tested was 1:19 like. 1:19 Heh. Yeah. 1:20 Like in a movie, 1:22 camera, 1:23 action, 1:24 right? 1:25 Ah, I just wanted to know. Just out of 1:28 curiosity, I took the test. 1:32 At that time, Sambas was the judge, 1:34 along with Budi Tiaditama. 1:37 Yes. 1:38 Like that. 1:40 Well, honestly, when I saw that I was 1:43 about to be tested, I felt really, 1:47 really down. Why? Because they were all 1:51 ready, wearing cool suits and 1:53 everything. 1:54 What were you wearing at the time, Kang 1:55 Yan? 1:55 Just my usual clothes, 1:57 like for college, 1:58 you know. 1:59 In the end, I just, 2:00 tried it, 2:01 still tried it, 2:02 hair this long, right? Well, let's just 2:05 try it, get tested, you know. 2:08 But thank God, a week later I was 2:10 called. 2:11 Wow, that's cool. 2:12 Called to be told I was accepted at 2:14 TVRI as a news anchor, but I had to cut 2:17 my hair. Like that. 2:20 I said, "I'm ready to cut my hair, Mas. 2:22 "" 2:22 You were accepted right away?"" 2:23 Accepted right away." 2:24 Oh. 2:25 But it wasn't as easy as just appearing 2:27 on air, Mas Kris, you know. For about 2 2:29 or 3 months, 2:31 I was in "Milopen," 2:33 Milopen. Milopen is checking scripts, 2:36 following around the anchors who were 2:38 about to go on air. 2:40 We accompanied them; what was it like? 2:42 After a while, it got boring, Mas Kris. 2:44 Right? Doing the same thing over and 2:46 over, right? Then I was told to do 2:48 dubbing, " 2:49 Here's the film, here's the script, you 2:51 fill it in," 2:52 right? Ah, I did it. "Is it really just 2:55 going to be like this forever?" 2:56 I asked the broadcasting coordinator, " 2:58 Why don't I ever get to appear on air?" 3:01 " 3:01 You're just too young." 3:03 Oh, the face is cute. 3:04 Too young. So people would get confused 3:06 , "Is this news actually true? If 3:09 you're the one reading it," they said, 3:10 Mas. 3:11 What year was that, though? 3:12 Uh, the year 1982. 3:15 Oh, 8182. I ended up changing my 3:18 glasses six times, sir. 3:20 Just to look older. 3:21 To look older. 3:22 But I still didn't get to appear. 3:24 Honestly, I almost gave up. 3:27 I said, "Wow, I don't think I'll ever 3:28 be accepted on TVRI.""I'll just quit 3:31 TVRI," I said. "Like that." 3:33 Well, it just so happened there was a 3:35 National Sports Week. 3:36 Like that. 3:38 They needed sports reporters. 3:40 Right? So, a leader from the sports 3:43 division came to our studio. "Who among 3:47 the announcers can help us?""We're 3:49 short on sports reporters." 3:50 Wow, I immediately raised my hand. " 3:53 Me.""What can you do?"" 3:55 I can handle bowling,"" 3:57 I can handle kempo," like that. " 3:59 Oh, cool."" 4:00 Okay, you take those two." Like that. 4:03 So I started handling those assignments 4:05 . 4:05 But I was thinking, I really wanted to 4:07 be on air, Mas Kris. 4:08 How could I find a way to appear on 4:10 screen? 4:11 Is it just about the voice? 4:12 Just voice reports, right? Like that. 4:16 Finally, I asked, giving it a shot. " 4:19 Cameraman, can we do a bit of acting so 4:21 I can be on screen?"" 4:24 Just a little touch."" 4:26 I'll pretend to throw a bowling ball, 4:28 then look at the camera and give my 4:30 report."" 4:32 Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure." So I... 4:35 It was so much fun. 4:37 I threw the bowling ball, then looked 4:39 at the camera, "Folks, we are here at 4:41 the Ancol bowling alley to report on 4:43 the National Sports Week," like that. 4:49 Everyone was confused, the other 4:50 reporters asked, "Is that really 4:52 allowed?"" 4:54 Yeah, we just do it to get on screen," 4:55 I said. 4:57 Wow, then they started following along. 5:00 "Yeah, folks.""Right there." 5:05 So after I appeared there, then... 5:09 The News Director said this. 5:11 Was it Mr. Hadi? 5:12 Not at that time. 5:13 Not Mr...what was it? Ms. Ani Sumadi? 5:17 Mr. Sumadi? Mr. Sumadi. 5:19 No, no. 5:20 Mr. Barata. 5:21 Mr. Barata. 5:22 Wait, was it Mr. Barata? 5:23 Yeah. 5:24 Whoever it was, anyway. 5:25 It was. 5:26 Then he said, "Why can't this kid be 5:27 put on screen?" Like that. 5:29 The coordinator of announcers said, " 5:31 Mas, he's too young, sir.""No, he's 5:33 ready to appear." 5:34 Wow. 5:36 Alhamdulillah. 5:39 That's when I finally appeared on 5:41 screen. But I was given the very early 5:44 shift, 5:00 AM, so nobody was watching 5:46 yet. Sometimes people are already 5:48 sleeping at 11:00 PM and I'm asked to 5:50 broadcast. That... 5:51 Had you finished college yet? 5:52 Why? 5:53 Was college finished? 5:54 Not yet. 5:54 College wasn't finished yet. So, 5:56 despite the cute face, you had a lot of 5:58 strategies. 6:02 Okay. Wanda, it's exciting, right? 6:05 Really cool, managed to invite former 6:07 news anchors from Dunia Dalam Berita, 6:09 Yang Pertawijaya. 6:11 And Ms. Utari Nur Permadi. Let me read 6:14 this WhatsApp from Kiriah Agus. " 6:17 Assalamualaikum, Mas Rasil.""Thank you 6:20 for hosting our favorite anchors since 6:22 the black-and-white TV era.""It brings 6:25 back memories of my late mother and 6:27 late father who bought a National Gobel 6:30 black-and-white TV when I was still..." 6:33 " 6:33 a toddler." Warm greetings to Kang Yan 6:36 and Mbak Utari, and I must say, Mbak 6:38 Utari still looks so beautiful. 6:41 Masyaallah. 6:42 That must be from your other beauty 6:43 treatments. 6:44 Wow. Okay. 6:46 Because his friends are Mas Krishna and 6:49 Kang Yan. 6:51 Isn't Pak Yan Partawijaya a Trijaya 6:53 radio broadcaster? 6:54 Not "Suara Kejayaan."" 6:56 Suara Kejayaan" is Ibu Rukmin's. 7:00 Then 7:00 these stories are starting to emerge. 7:03 Stories that we truly never knew about 7:05 before. 7:05 Yes. Now, Mbak Utari, what is your own 7:08 story of how you first joined TVRI, 7:09 especially in the world of broadcasting 7:10 ? Back then, after being at RRI, 7:15 suddenly, for the one and only time, 7:18 TVRI Jogja opened job vacancies, posted 7:22 as a...what do you call it, a telop? 7:26 Telop. 7:27 So there was a sign, and when I read it 7:29 , it turned out it was only posted for 7:30 3 days. 7:32 So I signed up, thinking, "Wow, what a 7:33 great opportunity," and I was finished. 7:35 TVRI Jogja. 7:36 TVRI Jogja. 7:38 TVRI Jogja. 7:39 Yes, usually the hiring was closed, and 7:42 more often than not, if you didn't have 7:45 connections, they said you couldn't get 7:49 in. 7:49 So if it were in Jakarta, maybe it was 7:51 more... 7:52 More objective, I'm not sure because I 7:54 only heard stories from other people. 7:56 So I signed up, and at that time we 7:59 were final-year students. Turns out, 8:02 how many people applied? Try to guess 8:05 how many applied during those 3 days 8:07 back in the year... 8:11 80...9, no, 88. Yeah. 8:17 5,000 people. 8:18 5,000 people from all over Indonesia. 8:20 Well, from around Central Java and DIY 8:23 because we had to live there. 8:25 It was posted on... 8:26 It was posted at TVRI Jogja. 8:28 Jogja. Yeah. 8:29 5,000 people. 8:31 Then we were selected in three stages. 8:34 Finally, six names were chosen. 8:37 Including, if I'm not mistaken, Mayong 8:39 Suryo Laksono who... 8:41 But he later became a journalist, if I 8:44 recall. So there were those six, and 8:47 then we were trained by Mas Damas Yunus 8:51 Mulono, who was very perfect, a great 8:54 teacher with vast knowledge. 8:57 He was an all-rounder. After that, we 8:59 were trained, like with the telop 9:02 earlier. 9:03 But initially, we were sent to join... 9:05 A producer, somewhere to the regions to 9:09 cover something. 9:11 But back then, I already had the assets 9:13 . 9:13 Reporter on screen, right? Unlike what 9:16 was mentioned before, where only the 9:18 voice was heard. 9:20 Just the sound, or whatever you call it 9:23 , like they have ROS now. 9:24 Yes. So there was always an opening 9:27 where we would appear on screen. Over 9:31 time, because in Jogja we had to be 9:33 ready for the news, but sometimes we 9:36 also had to be ready for surprise 9:39 events. I was a news anchor, so I 9:42 didn't wear a traditional bun. But I 9:45 had trouble appearing with a friendly 9:48 face. 9:49 Maybe because I’m naturally a bit 9:51 stern. 9:52 I’ve never seen you as stern. So I 9:55 had to learn to smile at the camera 9:57 like that. I am stern, though. 10:01 Okay. Masyaallah. Next, from Bunda... 10:06 Emilda. Assalamualaikum. Joining in to 10:09 listen to our guests. Masyaallah, Mbak 10:10 Utari and Bang Yan's tenacity is so 10:13 cool. Syukron, the motivations are 10:15 really great. This is from Ibu Linda. 10:19 And then also...How do you both view 10:23 the state of TVRI in the past compared 10:26 to TVRI now? Why has TVRI fallen behind 10:28 private TV stations? Perhaps Pak Andri 10:30 could answer that. 10:35 Maybe we should answer it together. But 10:36 let me try first. Regarding TVRI, there 10:40 are actually internal and external 10:42 factors. 10:45 If a public broadcasting institution 10:49 like TVRI is to become great, it 10:52 depends on government policy. 10:55 Yes. So, if the policy is conducive to 11:00 its role as a voice heard by the public 11:03 , then it can fulfill its duties. It 11:08 just depends on how the president 11:10 director and their team manage it. And 11:13 TVRI is very capable because their 11:17 human resources are quite competent. 11:21 Their level of ability is also 11:23 well-proven. 11:26 But sometimes there are obstacles that 11:31 might be too high and need to be 11:35 evaluated. I think every era needs to 11:39 evaluate what should be continued and 11:41 what should not. So that the government 11:46 and the Republic of Indonesia can have 11:50 one truly strong institution. So, do 11:54 not only consider rating or financial 11:58 factors. 11:59 Because, like a household, if the 12:02 father's voice is not heard, 12:04 how can he guide his children? And his 12:07 wife, for that matter. 12:10 Okay. Now, what do you think, Bang Yan? 12:14 I support what Mbak Tari said, that it 12:17 depends on the leadership and the 12:19 government, Mas Kris. 12:23 Because frankly, I have personal 12:26 experience from the time Pak Ishadi was 12:29 director at TVRI. 12:32 Yeah. 12:33 We already had advertisements. 12:35 Because to run broadcasts, we need 12:38 funds. 12:40 We can't just keep relying on the 12:41 government. We have to have our own 12:43 funds. 12:44 We enjoyed commercial broadcasts. 12:45 Yes. We liked commercial broadcasts. 12:48 But our friends at RCTI and TPI at the 12:51 time complained. Because 12:54 the ads were perhaps 12:57 being drawn to TVRI. 12:59 Their ad revenue was decreasing. 13:00 So it was stopped, Mas Kris. Yeah. 13:03 Finally, it was decided that if you 13:05 want ads, you must create a second 13:08 program. 13:09 So Pak Ishadi created program two. 13:12 Program two. 13:13 Program two, the English News Service, 13:16 right? Yeah. 13:18 But it was also limited because there 13:21 was a fear of draining the ad market. 13:26 In the end, it was left in limbo. Left 13:28 in limbo, and by the time we started 13:31 looking for ads, others had already run 13:33 far ahead. 13:35 Yes. 13:36 So it all depends on the government 13:38 again, Kris. 13:39 Okay. 13:41 All right. 13:42 That is our experience. 13:44 Yes, that's correct. But we see the 13:47 current TVRI's spirit 13:49 to change and listen to public needs is 13:53 very strong. There are many programs, 13:56 and they even have border area programs 13:59 . 14:01 Because five years ago, I brought a 14:05 team that usually covers border areas 14:08 to reach regions that were hard to 14:11 imagine reaching. Yet from Malaysia, 14:16 it’s only a 2-hour motorcycle ride. 14:19 From our side, it takes 12 hours using, 14:22 uh, what do you call it? A boat. Why 14:25 does it take a full day and night 14:27 instead of just 12 hours? When it's dry 14:29 , we have to carry the boat. 14:32 Oh, is that so? 14:32 Exactly. 14:34 And when our crew visited that village, 14:38 uh, what was it? The first thing the 14:42 village head asked was for help with 14:45 these tax forms, the PBB tax forms. 14:49 How do we fill out these forms? 14:52 Even though it’s such a remote 14:53 village, back then it was 100%for Mr. 14:55 SBY. But the children were stunted with 14:59 reddish hair, 15:01 and they lived in stilt houses. Our 15:02 crew actually covered the final moments 15:07 of a villager 15:10 who had asthma. Asthma isn’t 15:13 typically fatal, really. 15:14 But he was unconscious there. They 15:17 filmed him, uh, in one of the houses, 15:19 you know, in his sick state, being 15:22 looked after by his relatives or family 15:24 . Then when we reached Entong, we got 15:27 word that the village head we’d just 15:29 filmed had passed away. Just imagine. 15:34 When interviewed, the village head said 15:37 , "We love Indonesia, but we often 15:39 don't know if Indonesia loves us back." 15:43 That’s a question that, until now, 15:45 really sticks 15:47 with us, and because of TVRI, I was 15:49 able 15:50 yes 15:51 to reach regions like that. 15:53 There used to be a show called "From 15:55 Village to Village." 15:55 From villa... 15:56 Yes, that’s right. 15:58 Because TVRI had the widest reach. 16:00 Yes, that’s very true. Do you still 16:02 remember the names of old TVRI shows? 16:04 Please send your answers to 0811999720. 16:10 Wow, we already have answers coming in, 16:12 like "Aneka Ria Safari" and "Telerama." 16:15 Go ahead, keep those answers coming. 16:16 What are the names of old TVRI shows? 16:19 Please send them to 0811999720. We will 16:26 also read out the phone numbers of our 16:29 guests, Yan Partawijaya and Utari Nur 16:33 Permadi. Please get your pen and paper 16:36 ready. The phone number for Kang Yan 16:40 Partawijaya is 088 16:43 11 16:45 11 then 282811 08 11 2811. And the 16:59 phone number for Utari Nur Permadi is 17:01 0816 84 82 30 0816 84 82 30 17:16 It really is an old number. 17:17 An old, old number, right? 17:19 Okay. 17:19 Can I make a small protest? Yes, of 17:21 course. 17:22 Don't say "old TVRI shows," it makes it 17:25 sound like it was 100 years ago. Oh, 17:29 okay. Protest accepted. Suggestion 17:31 received. 17:31 Protest accepted. 17:33 Thank you. 17:34 Yeah. So TVRI 17:36 I 17:36 from the, uh, "era," maybe? 17:38 Yes, that’s more accurate. 17:39 Okay. 17:40 Because I kept thinking, just how old 17:43 am I? Like, really old, right? My 17:45 goodness. Okay. 17:51 These guests are uncontrollable. I 17:56 really loved the "Unyil" show. Wow, 17:59 quite a variety here. 18:01 Oh, Unyil. Yes, that’s right. 18:03 Indeed. 18:04 We once produced a show outside of TVRI 18:07 with Pak Raden. 18:08 Yeah. 18:09 He painted in front of the kids for the 18:11 Children's Cultural Festival. 18:13 Wow, that’s really cool. 18:14 The late Pak Raden. 18:15 The late. Yes, 18:16 that’s right. Indeed. 18:17 The late. The house is in the Slipi 18:20 area, right. 18:20 Yeah. Yeah. 18:21 And they are such kind people. That's 18:24 right. Isn't that right? 18:25 Oh my God, there are so many of them. 18:26 So TVRI is actually like a magnet. 18:28 Yeah. 18:29 With so many, or networks, truly 18:32 massive networks. 18:34 It just needs, really, 18:36 the government and the leadership, as 18:38 well as internally, to realize 18:41 that this is a diamond. 18:44 If it's a diamond, it's like a 18:45 Koh-i-Noor, you know. Others don't need 18:48 to feel scared or feel threatened, 18:50 that's fine. But it becomes part of the 18:53 competition. 18:55 Co-opetition; cooperating but competing 18:58 with each other. 18:59 That's the management term for it. 19:03 Don't kill it off. 19:05 Okay. 19:05 But let's just talk about the funny 19:07 stuff. 19:08 My experience when I was at TVRI, Mas 19:12 Kris, 19:14 it was during the 5:00 PM news, 19:18 I was only there with the cameraman. 19:20 Yes. And yes, the script was already 19:22 there because 19:23 there was only one copy. 19:24 The script was ready, 19:25 but the cameraman was a smoker. 19:28 So I got ready, and he went out 19:31 to lock it, right? 19:32 He locked it. 19:33 Yeah, 19:33 he locked it, so I went on air, it was 19:35 fine. 19:36 Suddenly, what happened, Mas Kris? 19:38 The camera went down. 19:42 The camera slumped. 19:44 So I went down too so I'd stay on 19:46 screen. Ah, and no one knew. 19:49 No one knew. Then I had to rush because 19:53 the report, the sound was already in 19:56 the film. Yeah. 19:58 So when that part came on, I 20:00 immediately pounded on the door. Hurry, 20:03 hurry, the camera went down, get back 20:05 in and set it up again. 20:08 Oh my God, oh Lord. 20:09 That was an experience. Oh, it was 20:11 hectic, Mas G, really hectic. There was 20:14 also an announcer, I don't know who, 20:17 who thought the mic was off but it was 20:19 still on, and they let out some words 20:21 that were... 20:22 Oh, I see. 20:23 Inappropriate words, got suspended for 20:25 it. 20:27 There was also a female announcer who 20:29 thought she wasn't on air yet because 20:30 she was prepping. And she put her hand 20:33 inside her shirt, 20:35 maybe to fix her microphone, actually. 20:38 Yeah. 20:39 But the people watching, because it was 20:41 broadcast across Indonesia, thought she 20:43 was doing something else, it was 20:44 embarrassing. 20:49 So since then, we've been warned that 20:51 once you're in front of the camera, 20:54 watch out. Seriously. 20:56 Just remember that you are already 20:59 visible 21:00 everywhere. But one of the experiences 21:04 that really left a deep mark on my 21:07 heart was when I was invited by Mr. 21:09 Hadi. 21:10 He really was a true mentor, a teacher 21:13 to us all. 21:14 That's right. A teacher. 21:15 He's at Trans TV now, right? Trans TV. 21:17 Yes, that's right. He invited me as a 21:19 news anchor to 21:21 the inauguration of a transmitter in 21:24 Banda Aceh with Ms. Isadi and the TVRI 21:26 team. Yeah. 21:27 Then we went from Banda Aceh to one of 21:30 the transmitters. He wanted to check on 21:32 the transmitter. 21:34 Imagine the transmitter, because TVRI 21:36 back then wasn't using satellites, what 21:39 you'd call it, ground-to-ground, right? 21:41 So, there's a transmitter on top of the 21:44 mountain. 21:44 Yeah. 21:45 So 21:45 a repeater. 21:46 Uh-huh. a repeater. We went up 21:49 in a car that was bumping around for 7 21:51 hours. 21:52 7 hours, you know. 21:53 Crazy. 21:53 7 hours of, uh, what do you call it? 21:56 What's the term for that shaking? And 21:59 when we arrived at the site, the 22:01 incline was, uh, over 60 degrees. Yeah. 22:05 Yeah. 22:05 Now, as we were going up, almost 22:08 reaching the, uh, transmitter, the 22:10 relay station, we passed 22:12 uh, a few people who were pushing 22:15 uh, what? Drums. Uh-huh. 22:17 Those drums were filled with 22:18 uh, what? For diesel, diesel fuel 22:21 yeah. Those were TVRI staff members. 22:24 Oh, crazy. They were pushing them by 22:26 themselves 22:27 to power the generator. Powering the 22:29 electricity, such dedication, right. 22:31 Yes. So, I was reminded, we were all 22:34 reminded, that if you mess up, it means 22:36 you're hurting the hearts of thousands 22:38 of people working there. 22:41 Okay, Iwan out, let's take a break 22:43 first. Still with Yan Partawijaya and 22:47 Mbak Utari Nur Permadi, TVRI anchors. 23:11 Still on our guest program at Rasil 23:14 Radio, where we feature Bang Yan 23:17 Partawijaya and also Mbak Utari Nur 23:21 Permadi. We know them as the former 23:25 anchors of TVRI's "Dunia Dalam Berita." 23:29 How does it feel to be on the radio, 23:30 Mbak Utari? 23:32 Being here is a joy, truly. 23:35 Yes, a joy. 23:36 It feels like we are 23:37 reminiscing about the past, right? 23:38 Yes, reminiscing about the past; turns 23:40 out we're still appreciated. 23:43 And also, it felt just like we were 23:44 fish entering the water 23:48 water that's cool and full of plankton, 23:50 too. There's a message here from a 23:54 mother, thank you for this program. I 23:58 missed my late husband who was part of 24:00 RCTI, Joko Pramono, a sports reporter. 24:05 That's why I'm waiting for Pak Yasir 24:06 Denas's show. Oh, from Ibu Hajah Dwi. 24:11 Now 24 years old. Thank you, Mbak Utari 24:13 and Pak Yan, for coming to Rasil, she 24:16 says. 24:18 It cured my longing. Alhamdulillah, may 24:20 God grant mercy to her late husband. 24:24 Uh, Assalamualaikum, Pak Yan. Are you 24:26 the one active at the Sinarmas company? 24:28 Pardon me, uh, from Ramli in Tangerang. 24:31 That's right. 24:32 100 24:33 100, director. 24:36 APP. 24:37 Director at APP Sinarmas, to be exact. 24:40 Thank you. 24:41 You, uh, handle the paper production, 24:44 right? 24:44 Yes, paper. 24:45 Now, the papers we come across are made 24:47 from trees. From trees, right. What 24:49 kind of trees? 24:50 Acacia. 24:50 Acacia. 24:51 Acacia and eucalyptus. 24:53 Eucalyptus. 24:54 How many years does it take to grow? It 24:55 can be harvested 24:56 the acacia can be harvested in 6 years. 25:00 Yeah. 25:00 At the longest. Then, for the 25:03 eucalyptus, uh, we import it. 25:07 Oh, import. 25:08 Yes, because it's very limited here in 25:10 Indonesia. 25:11 Now, what about in Saudi, is the paper 25:13 imported? 25:14 Correct. Correct. So, for countries 25:17 that 25:18 people returning from Hajj usually get 25:21 uh, a Quran. 25:22 Yeah. 25:23 The paper is from Indonesia, 25:25 specifically from Sinarmas. Wow. 25:28 Because at Indah Kiat, one of the 25:29 Sinarmas factories in Indah Kiat, 25:31 Tangerang, 25:32 that's where the Quran paper is 25:35 produced. 25:35 Oh, 25:36 Specifically for Quran paper. 25:37 Exclusively for Quran paper. 25:38 The paper is really high quality, you 25:39 know. 25:39 Yeah. 25:40 Yeah. 25:40 Because it can last for about 100 years 25:43 . 25:44 Oh. What kind of trees can be made into 25:46 paper? 25:47 Actually, in principle, all trees can 25:49 be used because they get chipped anyway 25:51 . So, you don't need big logs, it’s 25:53 not like that. 25:55 It’s the small trees because they get 25:57 chipped. But the best ones are acacia 25:59 and eucalyptus. 26:00 Oh, acacia, right. 26:01 Yeah. 26:02 Uh, the seedling process keeps going, 26:03 right? 26:04 It keeps going. We have industrial 26:05 forest plantations, or HTI. So we don't 26:08 open up new land anymore. We just use 26:10 the land that is already available. 26:13 Yeah. 26:13 It's called industrial forest 26:14 plantation. 26:15 Uh, what is the diameter? 26:17 Uh, what is the diameter? About this 26:20 big. 26:21 Oh, it's not that big then. 26:22 About the size of a dinner plate? 26:24 Yes. 26:24 H. 26:25 Correct. Correct. 26:26 Amazing. 26:27 That's only the trunk. If it's the 26:29 leaves, they can't be made into paper, 26:30 right? 26:31 No, not the leaves. We just take the 26:33 trunk, chip it, and then cook it, right 26:36 . 26:37 Cook it, and the sap comes out. H 26:40 We use that sap again as, uh, fuel, and 26:44 then we turn it into pulp. 26:48 We pack the pulp; some can be dried, 26:52 right? 26:54 So then, uh, the wet pulp. For the wet 26:57 pulp, it goes directly 26:58 integrated into becoming paper. 27:02 So, from wood pulp, it's chipped, then 27:04 becomes paper pulp, and finally becomes 27:07 paper. It becomes paper. Okay. 27:10 But some we export as, uh, pulp sheets, 27:15 this pulp. 27:17 Now, this pulp is what we, uh, package 27:21 and sell. 27:23 Amazing. From a news anchor to handling 27:26 paper. With this paperless trend, does 27:30 it affect the production levels? 27:32 Same question. 27:33 True. It has an impact, Mas Kris. It 27:35 has an impact, but 27:36 people also rarely use it, magazines 27:38 are rare now. 27:40 But we have to be creative, stay 27:42 creative. 27:43 Tissues are still being used, right? 27:44 Yes. Tissues continue to grow because 27:48 tissues can't, uh, be reduced since 27:51 there are tissues for cooking, tissues 27:54 for, uh, other cleaning needs, we 27:57 provide all sorts of tissues, you know. 28:01 And also Mas Kris's creativity, meaning 28:04 for example 28:05 uh mobile phone production is currently 28:10 insane, 28:11 but they need the cardboard boxes, the 28:13 packaging. Amazing. 28:15 Now, this packaging is what we prepare, 28:17 you know. H. 28:19 So, 28:19 this is what we keep working on. What 28:22 else do we need to work on? Uh, shoes. 28:24 Shoes have wrapping paper, that thin, 28:28 smooth paper. 28:29 We prepare that. 28:31 Amazing. 28:33 There's material made from 28:35 those fibers, maybe? 28:37 Yes. And now, there's a lot of, uh, 28:42 what is it, takeout, takeout, takeout. 28:44 Yes. 28:45 The packaging should really be for food 28:47 , 28:49 you can't just use anything. 28:51 Right, food grade. 28:52 Well, we also created the food-grade 28:54 one. 28:54 Cool. 28:55 So basically, whatever the contents are 28:58 , 28:59 the packaging is 29:01 APP. 29:01 APP. Living APP. Okay. 29:06 Something like that. 29:09 Such an exciting conversation, they say 29:11 . Please give us the phone number. I 29:12 will read out the phone number again. 29:14 What story do you want to share, Mbak 29:15 Utari? 29:16 I was just imagining Kang Yan when he 29:18 was young, it makes sense why he's 29:21 still cute even now. Because since he 29:24 was a teenager, he's been used to 29:25 dealing with unexpected things. 29:28 Broadcasting, but he was up where? On 29:30 the ceiling, right. 29:32 Okay. Dead. Maybe you didn't know, 29:38 nowadays we use teleprompters, 29:42 which is great. 29:43 It makes it look like we memorized 29:45 the news. 29:47 Well, at first, at TVRI, 29:49 how we made a teleprompter 29:52 manually, Mas Kris. 29:53 Oh, it was held for me, 29:56 or were the letters written big? 29:58 Yes. We typed it using a 3M typewriter. 30:00 Yeah. Then, 30:01 we used the largest font available. 30:04 That, 30:04 all capital letters. 30:05 All capital letters. 30:07 All capital letters. Then joined 30:08 together with scotch tape, 30:11 then scrolled 30:12 like that. 30:14 We were the ones reading. 30:16 I experienced it too, Mas Kris. Imagine 30:19 , Mas Kris, if the tape broke, 30:26 back then when Pak Harto was in America 30:27 , the text would jump from the garden 30:29 to the garden, everything fell apart, 30:34 so we had to go back to the script, 30:35 back to the script, if it felt weird or 30:37 a connection broke, we'd immediately 30:39 run back to the script. 30:41 That was it, Mas Kris. 30:43 Back then, we didn't even have to be on 30:44 TV; just stepping into the TV station 30:46 grounds made us feel so proud. Wow, 30:48 this is a TV person. Yes, 30:51 what Kang Yan described about the tape, 30:55 I experienced that too, and I was in 30:58 the same big newsroom. 31:02 So, we were preparing for the 5 o'clock 31:04 news. But, 31:06 for the news at five, Mbak Anita Rahman 31:08 or Tuti Aditama were already there. Wow 31:11 , it felt 31:12 like we were close to legends. Someone 31:16 from Singapore is listening now. We are 31:18 listening from Singapore. Please greet 31:20 them. 31:21 Good afternoon. How are you? 31:23 Ijana binti Madio. 31:24 Mrs. Nurjana, thank you for listening 31:27 from Singapore. 31:29 From Singapore. Greetings. 31:31 Mrs. Aisya from Malaysia is also 31:33 listening. Okay. 31:34 How are you, Ma'am? 31:35 Ma'am. I often go to Malaysia. 31:40 Yeah. Just the border. 31:41 The border. 31:42 I work a lot in the border areas. 31:45 Yeah. Hopefully, we can collaborate 31:47 with APP, 31:48 the children at the border. 31:50 Okay. Oh, asking for the phone number. 31:53 Okay. Okay. I actually already read out 31:56 the phone number. Please get your pen 31:57 and paper ready. We will read out the 32:00 phone numbers of our guests, namely Mr. 32:03 Yan Partawijaya and Ms. Utari Nur 32:07 Permadi. From Utari Nur Permadi, the 32:10 number is 0816. 32:13 Yes. Then 84. 32:17 Then 82 30 0816 84 82 30. Then Mr. Yan, 32:28 what was the number again? 088 32:32 08 then 11 32:36 28 32:36 28 32:37 28 32:39 28 again 11 08 11 28 Someone is asking 32:48 for more news reading. 32:51 Oh, sure. 32:52 Reading the news for real, right? 32:53 Reading the news, is there a script? 32:55 Let's check. 32:57 We have to find the script first. Let's 33:00 look for it. Which news? The one about 33:03 India or the one about going on Hajj? 33:07 Getting off the plane because they 33:09 hadn't fed the chickens yet? 33:11 Chickens? 33:15 Okay. Not yet. 33:18 Go ahead, oh someone is answering, 33:21 those shows, Little House. 33:24 Legendary. Legendary shows, indeed. 33:29 There was the quiz show, Camera Ria. 33:34 Our weekly album. Wow. 33:37 Hm. Wow, there are so many, aren't 33:39 there? My goodness. 33:41 You all remember. 33:42 Yeah. 33:45 Candra Kirana show. 33:47 Candra Kirana. 33:48 Candra Kirana at Iskandar, right? 33:50 Iskandar. Yeah. This is actually a good 33:54 moment if Rasil is being heard by TVRI, 33:56 that many listeners miss those programs 33:59 . 34:00 True. Indeed. 34:02 In the West, for example, they 34:04 broadcast Andy Williams 'songs with old 34:07 programs. Maybe this could also 34:11 the Indonesian public would also like 34:13 to see on TV a corner for nostalgic 34:15 glimpses, perhaps. So there are old, 34:18 interesting programs. Whose canteen is 34:21 it? The TVRI one, up there. 34:23 If you go up, it's on the left, above 34:25 Taman Buaya, right? 34:27 Is it still there? 34:28 I think so, but I forgot the name. We 34:30 actually know the one downstairs better 34:32 . 34:33 Because of the news department. 34:34 Yes. 34:35 The legendary one was named Mbok Iro. 34:37 Oh. 34:38 Until the end of her life, she was 34:40 truly 34:41 like a mother to all of us. 34:44 Yes. And who liked to, what was it, the 34:47 conductor? Acting as the conductor. 34:50 Heh. 34:51 He wanted to join TVRI, but wasn't 34:53 accepted. Oh, not accepted, they turned 34:55 him away after seeing his back. 34:57 Oh yes, that's right. Since they often 35:00 filmed his back, he became known. 35:03 Finally recognized. 35:04 Recognized at last. 35:05 Turns out it was the conductor. The 35:07 conductor. 35:07 The orchestra conductor. 35:10 So, what is Mbak Utari's secret? Why 35:13 does your voice still sound so good? 35:14 Still so melodious, what's the secret, 35:15 Ma'am? Mr. Yan's voice is still great 35:17 too, of course. Oh, the secret is just 35:19 being happy all the time. Always happy, 35:22 always. 35:23 Always happy and meeting kind people 35:25 like Mas Krishna. Have you ever met 35:29 fans when you were out and about, and 35:32 they recognized you? 35:34 Yes, often, but they are all mothers. 35:39 What are you hoping for? Why? 35:41 What were you expecting? Maybe someone 35:42 young and fresh. Teenagers wouldn't 35:45 know who Yan Pertawijaya is. 35:47 If Utari also has that experience 35:50 well, it's mostly mothers, but in my 35:52 case, plus the fathers too. Yeah. 35:55 Oh. Also, if they are still young, they 35:59 usually put it like this—not exactly 36:01 super young, but, uh, unmarried, you 36:03 know? They say, "I saw you, Ma'am, when 36:08 I was in junior high." Actually, at 36:11 that time I was providing training 36:13 material for their company. So, I had 36:16 the thought, why do I feel so old? They 36:19 were already an official there. 36:22 They said, "I used to watch you on TVRI 36:24 , Mbak Utari, when I was in junior high 36:26 ." 36:28 Hm. Okay. 36:29 Yes. Yes. 36:30 From Abu Aska. I used to fill in three 36:34 times for the SHF meeting event on TVRI 36:37 . I had the task of reciting the Quran. 36:39 Is that program still running? Thank 36:41 you. 36:41 Hmm, 36:42 is it still there? 36:42 Maybe it has changed, but there are 36:44 still many religious programs. Yeah. 36:46 Yes, because it was a very popular 36:48 program. 36:49 Yeah. 36:50 Hmm, 36:51 that's right. 36:53 Okay. Uh, Mbak Utari, what kind of 36:56 training do you conduct? Could I join, 36:58 what training is it? 36:59 Oh, absolutely. Uh, we usually cover 37:02 communication or personal development, 37:05 branding, or self-branding. 37:08 Or leadership. 37:09 We can be invited to companies for that 37:11 . 37:11 We’d be happy to. We just, I just 37:14 came back from Jogja. 37:17 With the ladies from the Ministry of 37:20 Home Affairs there. 37:23 We have also been to various regions 37:25 several times, including Papua. 37:27 In West Papua. So, 37:29 uh, wherever it is, we are ready to 37:33 help. 37:34 Yeah. 37:35 With pleasure. 37:36 Okay. Okay. Please just use Mbak's 37:39 phone number at 0816 then 84 8230. If 37:45 you want to call Pak Yan, it's 088 37:47 08811. 37:49 28. 37:50 28. 37:52 11. Yan Partawijaya. 37:55 Yes. Okay, unfortunately we are out of 37:58 time because it is almost time for 38:01 Dhuhr. 38:01 Thank you for being here. 38:03 Thank you. 38:05 Is there anything you want to convey, 38:07 Mbak Utari or Pak Yan first? 38:08 Please, ladies first. 38:10 Uh, so for us, thank you very much; 38:14 this Radio Silaturahmi is truly a great 38:17 forum. Hopefully, all listeners can 38:22 continue to maintain their 38:24 relationships and do good things 38:26 together with the people around them. 38:30 Success and stay inspired. 38:32 Okay, how about Kang Yan? 38:36 Uh, I always say thank you very much, 38:38 Mas Kris, for this opportunity, and to 38:41 the viewers, of course, we hope this 38:44 meeting will continue this relationship 38:47 . 38:49 And we pray for each other. 38:51 May we always be blessed. 38:54 Amen. 38:54 From Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. Amen. 38:56 Amen ya rabbal alamin. 38:57 Amen. 38:58 Alright, thank you Pak Yan Partawijaya. 39:00 It was a pleasure meeting these... 39:02 These world news anchors! And Mbak 39:06 Utari, thank you. Alright. I am 39:08 Muhammad Krishna. Oh, the camera is 39:10 over here. I am Muhammad Krishna. 39:13 Along with Fajar Hidayah and Anis 39:16 Mualim. We take our leave. Wabillahi 39:18 taufik walhidayah. Wasalamualaikum 39:20 warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. 39:21 Waalaikumsalam. 39:22 Waalaikumsalam. Let's say thank you. 
