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0:53 Brail TV. 1:01 In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious 1:02 , the Most Merciful. Peace be upon you, 1:04 and Allah's mercy and blessings. 1:07 And peace be upon you too, and Allah's 1:08 mercy. All praise is due to Allah, Lord 1:09 of the Worlds, we seek His help for 1:11 worldly and religious affairs, and may 1:12 peace and blessings be upon the noblest 1:14 of prophets and messengers, and upon 1:15 all his family and companions. My Lord, 1:17 increase me in knowledge and grant me 1:18 understanding, and join me with the 1:20 righteous. Still broadcasting from 1:22 Jalan Masjid Silaturahim number 36, 1:24 Kalimanggis, Cibubur, Bekasi. This is 1:26 Radio Silaturahim for a united Islam, a 1:28 united Indonesia. Wow, there’s 1:30 already a phone call coming in. And 1:33 not yet, not yet. We just started and 1:36 there's already a ring-ring-ring on Mas 1:37 Fahri's desk. May all the brothers and 1:40 sisters be healthy today, Sunday, June 1:42 26th. It happens to coincide with the 1:45 26th of Dhu'l-Qa'dah as well. I 1:48 Yes. 1:50 The year 2022, for those who are on the 1:53 road, on a field trip, or traveling 1:55 with the mosque committee. Oh, there's 1:58 a mosque committee here. 1:59 From Sentul, suddenly wanting to skip 2:01 out. 2:01 Those from Sentul are suddenly being 2:02 forced to return home. Because they 2:04 want to skip. 2:04 For those on a pilgrimage today. May 2:07 Allah bless everyone, shower them with 2:10 goodness, and grant peace to their 2:12 hearts. 2:12 Amen, O Allah. 2:13 No matter how much wealth we have, if 2:15 our hearts are not at peace, it is 2:16 useless. It’s nice to be like Kak 2:18 Iman. Lots of wealth, a peaceful heart. 2:22 Amen. Amen. 2:23 Amen. Amen. Amen. Indonesia, brothers 2:26 and sisters, lately things have been 2:29 stirred up by some issues that are 2:32 actually old but are always being hyped 2:35 up. There are many. 2:37 I 2:37 blasphemy. Yes. Repeated. Lastly, 2:41 alcoholic drinks were given for free to 2:45 people who have the names Muhammad and 2:48 Maria. Then, LGBT is becoming 2:52 increasingly rampant. Therefore, 2:54 brothers and sisters, tonight we will 2:58 discuss same-sex feelings in a wrong 3:01 bond with Uncle Firuzir and Muhammad 3:04 Iskaf. Peace be upon you, and Allah's 3:06 mercy and blessings. 3:06 Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy 3:07 and blessings. 3:08 Are you healthy, Kak Iman? 3:09 Alhamdulillah, 3:09 I am healthy. 3:10 Alhamdulillah. 3:11 Alhamdulillah. One of my nieces, Kak 3:15 Iman, is currently in 8th grade. 3:19 When she was in 5th grade, she told me 3:22 that her schoolmate had already 3:24 declared that she was a lesbian. She 3:29 goes to an international school. Her 3:31 friend said, "Hey, I'm a lesbian, you 3:34 know." Something like that. But she 3:36 said it in English because it's an 3:38 international school. At that age, so 3:41 young, she had already declared her 3:43 sexual orientation. Wow, for those of 3:46 us with small children, it’s 3:47 immediately nerve-wracking. Is it 3:49 already that wild out there? Is it 3:52 already that free out there? Tonight, 3:54 we will discuss it with the experts. 3:57 How come it's like there are no experts 3:59 ? 4:00 Tonight we want to discuss the 4:02 relationship between Jono and Joko. And 4:06 many other similar relationships. 4:09 It’s made to look like a trend, Kak 4:10 Iman. 4:10 Uh-huh. 4:11 Yes. 4:12 Made into a trend, looking cool. If we 4:16 disagree, it’s as if it’s a human 4:19 rights violation. That people who think 4:24 it’s wrong are intolerant. 4:26 Yes. 4:27 Wow, all sorts of things like that. Why 4:29 , Keman? Why did it suddenly cross your 4:31 mind to talk about that tonight, bro? 4:32 It’s like this, it’s strange. If we 4:34 don’t accept them, we’re considered 4:36 , uh, intolerant. Yeah. 4:39 But they don’t respect our stance, 4:41 our, uh, straight stance. If they 4:44 don’t feel it, well, it should be 4:46 reciprocal, right? We don’t feel like 4:48 , if we reject them we are called 4:49 intolerant, then they shouldn’t, uh, 4:51 shouldn't reject our opinion that we 4:53 don't agree with them. 4:55 Just live and let live. 4:57 You do you, I do me, right? Don't 4:59 protest. If you want your stance 5:01 respected, you respect my stance. If 5:02 you want to be fair, actually, right? 5:04 So here is one interesting thing, uh, 5:07 Brother Musa. Masha Allah, it's a 5:09 matter of pride. I felt, wow, how 5:12 should I put it, I was so happy back 5:15 then when Isa invited me to the MUI. 5:20 There was a meeting with figures who 5:22 are, masha Allah, wow, who are very 5:24 learned, very pious. One of them was 5:28 Mrs. Utari, right, Doctor? Doctor Utari 5:30 . 5:31 Oh my God, when we met, 5:33 I was so incredibly flattered. A 5:36 scholar, 5:37 a scholar 5:38 who is a woman, 5:38 a female doctor. 5:40 When we met, I was, uh, unclean. Well, 5:42 if you know an ordinary person, you'd 5:45 be happy. This is a doctor at the MUI, 5:48 a figure who knows us, so we feel quite 5:50 proud, right? 5:52 So Iman didn't know us. 5:54 We knew Iman. Especially Isa. Isa, why, 5:57 brother? So, in that meeting, we 6:00 discussed LGBT. All the input, so much 6:04 input came in, masha Allah. Uh, but 6:07 there is one stretching point from me. 6:10 Uh, we Muslims, Brother Musa, we are 6:14 reactive by nature. There's an issue, 6:20 an issue blows up. There’s a blurry 6:22 issue. So, the nature of our Muslim 6:24 community is like what? A bird's eye 6:27 chili firecracker with a short fuse, 6:29 lit and it explodes instantly. 6:30 Yes. 6:31 Uh, how about we change the pattern? 6:34 How about we be proactive? So, enough 6:41 with issues like whether to do qunut or 6:43 not, let's stop discussing it. Whether 6:47 to shake during Attahiyat or not, let's 6:48 stop discussing it. 6:49 Shaking. Why shaking? 6:51 Well, some people shake like that, 6:52 right? 6:52 Told to stop, but it keeps shaking. 6:59 Astagfirullahalazim. Enough with issues 7:02 like, oh, tarawih 11 or 21, let’s not 7:04 bother. I mean, these issues of 11 or 7:07 21 rak'ah of tarawih don't need to be 7:08 fought over; if you don't do tarawih, 7:10 it's also fine, right? 7:13 Don't bother with those kinds of issues 7:15 , let's not let our energy be wasted on 7:17 trivial matters. 7:19 Things that aren't worth fighting over, 7:21 and even if we did fight over them, 7:23 we'd be responsible for ourselves for 7:25 that. But take issues like this LGBT 7:30 one, I want to tell a little story; 7:32 around the years 97 to 2002, there was 7:36 a nightclub or cafe in South Jakarta, 7:39 located near the National Police 7:41 Headquarters. 7:46 There was a Wednesday night that was, 7:48 unwrittenly, a gay night. 7:50 Hmm. H. 7:51 Imagine, the year '97. 7:52 It was like that, yeah. 7:53 Back in '97, people were still ashamed 7:55 to say they were gay. 7:57 H 7:58 Now, how is the position where they 8:01 dare to be offensive to us if we reject 8:04 their existence? Yeah. 8:06 Okay, let's not let's not approach it 8:09 this way, we shouldn't be too, we 8:15 shouldn't be, uh, overly offensive 8:18 toward this group. Because there are 8:23 also people whose, uh, sexual 8:26 orientation is indeed wrong, but they 8:29 don't want that. 8:30 H 8:31 They don't know it's a disease that can 8:33 be cured. H 8:35 They don't know that people like that 8:37 should be guided to the right path. 8:39 Yes. 8:39 Right? There are people who know their 8:43 sexual orientation is wrong but are 8:45 ashamed and bury it deep down. We must 8:48 also save people like that. The problem 8:52 is people who know their sexual 8:54 orientation is wrong, yet declare and 8:56 promote their sexual deviation as the 8:59 correct sexual orientation. That is 9:02 what needs to be fixed. Now, actually, 9:05 if our whole society were active 9:08 regarding issues like this, perhaps it 9:11 would eventually get smaller. The 9:15 problem is, when there is someone with 9:17 a deviant sexual orientation, some 9:19 people respond by asking, "Where are 9:21 the religious leaders?" Okay. Blaming 9:24 religious leaders, but where are their 9:26 parents? 9:28 Okay. Later on, "Where are the teachers 9:30 ?" Parents say, "You guys, the 9:33 religious leaders, should be taking 9:35 care of things like this." Yes. You, 9:36 you blame religious leaders for 9:38 problems like this. But when it comes 9:40 to math tutoring, you're ready to pay 9:41 400,000, while for Quran lessons, even 9:43 just 100,000, you don't want to. 9:44 Yeah, yeah. 9:45 Right? 9:46 How many people have we encountered? 9:48 Many of us parents are more concerned 9:50 about our children being good at math 9:51 than being able to read the Quran. 9:54 Math teachers 'salaries are so high. 9:56 While we compensate Quran teachers as 9:59 stingily as possible. If 400,000 is 10:03 okay, get five kids together. So stingy 10:08 . 10:08 Every two or three months. 10:09 Let's just say these are issues that 10:12 issues that we must 10:15 guard. 10:15 Yes. 10:16 Regarding sexual orientation. I have a 10:18 friend, brother Isa, brother Musa. 10:19 Yeah. 10:21 In the early days of college, he liked 10:23 a girl, but his friend group was all 10:27 girls. And, you know, they kept pushing 10:30 him like this and that. In the end, 10:32 what happened? He declared himself gay. 10:35 I have been influenced, right? 10:36 Influenced. I have a friend 10:38 who I thought, "Wow, this guy is gay."" 10:40 This guy is gay." Yeah. Now he has 10:42 three children. Maybe there were 10:46 inclinations like that, but he 10:47 suppressed them and corrected himself 10:49 to be straight. There is something more 10:51 dangerous. 10:51 And I also have a friend who feels he 10:53 is gay but doesn't really know. "Eh, no 10:55 , I'm not gay," he says. Just following 10:59 along. 10:59 So, this is due to the lack of concern 11:02 from society as a whole. 11:04 I think we shouldn't blame it on "this 11:06 is the cleric's job" or "this is the 11:07 parents' job." 11:08 Because everyone can just blame each 11:09 other. Clerics can blame the parents, 11:11 right? The closest sphere is the 11:13 parents. How is the parent-child 11:14 relationship? 11:15 Exactly. There’s something even 11:18 scarier, Kiman. He’s gay. He gets 11:21 married to hide his true identity. 11:24 He has children because, well, even if 11:27 he’s gay, his—reproductive organs 11:31 still function. 11:31 Yeah. 11:33 So, he has a child. But after having 11:35 the child, he doesn't suppress his gay 11:38 desires. He has relations with the same 11:40 sex. He contracts a disease, brings it 11:42 home, and his wife gets infected. 11:43 Thank God. Goodness gracious. 11:46 That's evil. Evil. Wait, for example, 11:50 if he is gay. He shouldn't infect 11:52 others, especially an innocent wife. 11:56 Some people are gay. They are pressured 12:00 by their parents and are afraid to come 12:02 out to them. They are pressured until 12:04 they finally give in and get married. 12:07 But he’s not attracted to women. In 12:09 the end, he just marries to please his 12:10 parents. Eventually, the wife, 12:13 quote-unquote, isn’t fulfilled 12:15 emotionally or physically for years 12:17 until they divorce. 12:20 Try an approach where parents talk to 12:22 them nicely and guide them toward 12:24 self-awareness. The most important 12:28 thing is that a bad or misguided person 12:30 won’t change until they realize they 12:33 are wrong. 12:33 True. Yet, the first form of judgment 12:36 is inner judgment. When we commit a 12:38 wrong, the first thing that judges us 12:40 is our own conscience. 12:42 I am certain that everyone who commits 12:44 a wrong feels inner resistance. But if 12:47 their environment supports that 12:48 behavior, they keep going. There is no 12:51 one, from any religion—even those 12:54 without one—who is proud of their 12:57 crimes after committing them. No one. 13:00 Their conscience will reject it. 13:01 Because it’s human nature. God 13:02 created humans with an innate, pure 13:04 heart that loves goodness. 13:05 Exactly. 13:06 But from an Islamic perspective, if 13:08 their conscience initially resists but 13:11 they keep doing it over and over until 13:13 their heart becomes hardened—so it no 13:16 longer resists? They get used to it, 13:18 they do more and more of it. Eventually 13:21 , they are proud to declare it. 13:22 There’s a trend now where people 13:25 declare how many women they’ve slept 13:27 with. Yeah. 13:29 They can conquer women after just one 13:31 meeting. 13:33 In a month, they brag about how many 13:36 women they’ve been with. In one month 13:39 , they count how many women they’ve 13:41 slept with. That’s a common trend now 13:43 . 13:43 God protect us. How many people like 13:47 that do we meet who started that way 13:49 because their father was harsh or they 13:53 didn't have a good environment at home? 13:56 You were right, Eman. 13:58 Everything starts with the family. How 14:01 the mother becomes the*madrasatul ula* 14:04 or the first school for the child. 14:07 That’s why it’s important for 14:11 husbands, first and foremost, in 14:14 building a marriage— 14:16 to find a righteous wife— 14:20 who can properly raise their children. 14:22 Because that is what will shape the 14:25 behavior that becomes the child's 14:28 character. 14:29 Just like you are looking for a 14:30 candidate, right? 14:31 Yes. Of course. 14:33 It's included. 14:34 That is included as a right 14:37 of a child against their father that 14:39 will be demanded later. A child will 14:42 demand it of their father. "Why didn't 14:46 you look for a righteous mother for me? 14:48 " like that. A child's right against 14:50 their father is to find a righteous 14:52 mother for the child. Anyway, as 14:55 Brother Musa said earlier, every sin 14:58 must initially feel unpleasant, we 15:02 don't enjoy the taste of any sin. Even 15:06 something as small as smoking. 15:08 Yes. 15:09 Just smoking. At first, people will 15:11 definitely cough. 15:13 Coughing and wheezing. 15:14 People drinking beer initially 15:16 definitely can't stand it. They don't 15:19 like it; it doesn't taste as good as 15:21 syrup or other things. And people who 15:25 drink beer also get drunk easily, 15:28 easily vomit, and so on. Every sin is 15:32 initially unpleasant, why? Because it's 15:34 not in line with our fitrah, not in 15:37 accordance with, uh, human nature. Not 15:40 in accordance with, uh, the humanity in 15:44 which we were initially created. And 15:47 all sins are basically against our 15:50 fitrah. That's why Islam is beautiful, 15:54 because Islam was created in accordance 15:56 with our human fitrah. Uh, so the words 16:00 of a pious person are true, "al-birru 16:02 matma'anna ilaihil-qalbu." I don't know 16:05 , I forgot this. Whether it's a Hadith 16:07 or if it was Sayyidina Ali who said it. 16:10 Righteousness is what makes your heart 16:12 feel at ease when you do it. 16:14 While evil is what makes your heart 16:18 feel doubtful in doing it. There is 16:22 anxiety, there is fear. If, for example 16:25 , you are seen by people doing it, you 16:27 would definitely be ashamed. Well, it's 16:31 that simple for us to judge good and 16:34 evil. Now, they were initially shy 16:38 because they knew what they were doing 16:41 was wrong. Meaning outside of human 16:43 norms, 16:45 outside of their nature as human beings 16:47 . They emerged, trying to make this 16:55 seem normal, shaping human perception 16:59 that this is normal. "I am just like 17:03 you all." How many countries have 17:09 legalized this, making it as normal as 17:12 people of opposite genders getting 17:15 married? 17:19 Yes. It is worsened by the fact that 17:23 the campaign is now very massive. Even 17:25 yesterday when we talked with one of 17:28 our director friends, he told us how 17:31 Netflix is currently pushing for all 17:34 its productions to have that element. " 17:37 Diversity," they say, all races must be 17:40 in it, including sexual orientation, 17:41 everything must be there. That is why 17:45 Netflix-produced films now, if it is 17:47 their production, usually have that 17:49 issue, those insertions, abroad. 17:52 Productions abroad, yes. I don't know 17:54 about Indonesia, maybe not yet, but 17:55 those insertions will be there. Well, 17:59 it's not just that platform, other 18:01 platforms might also do the same thing, 18:04 perhaps. Yeah. 18:06 But clearly, there’s already that one 18:08 big platform, and it’s not just that 18:11 platform; many other film production 18:13 houses outside are also promoting that 18:15 campaign. In fact, there’s a huge 18:18 budget for it, and many major companies 18:20 are supporting the promotion of that 18:22 campaign. 18:23 I once heard someone say something like 18:25 this. Uh, one of the concepts of 18:28 population control—if we’re talking 18:31 about conspiracy theories, 18:35 they talk about controlling the 18:36 population count, right? 18:38 In whatever way possible, they will do 18:40 it. Well, they have been proven to fail 18:43 over time regarding, uh, birth control. 18:45 H 18:46 It didn’t work, right? 18:48 Just think, if a man marries a man and 18:50 a woman marries a woman, where would 18:52 the children come from? 18:54 Yeah. How would children be born? Isn't 18:56 that right? Have you seen Japan's 18:59 population growth per capita right now? 19:03 What about the population growth per 19:06 capita in France right now? It's almost 19:11 zero, or perhaps in one of those 19:12 countries, it’s already zero. So the 19:15 number of people dying is equal to the 19:17 number of births. H 19:18 Yeah. If this continues to happen, soon 19:23 the number of elderly people 19:25 will increase. 19:26 Increase more. 19:27 The number of productive-age people 19:29 will decrease. 19:32 And, well, the enemies of Islam know 19:34 how to destroy Islam, and we can 19:36 already see that it’s working. Now, 19:40 those attacking the Muslim community 19:42 are Muslims themselves. Usually, when 19:45 someone badmouths Muslims, Muslims 19:47 become reactive, and the reactive 19:49 Muslims are attacked by other Muslims. 19:53 All of that happens because of our 19:54 negligence. If I’m not mistaken, 19:57 Sayyidina Ali once said, "Do not raise 19:59 your children the way your parents 20:00 raised you. Because your time and your 20:03 children’s time are different." 20:05 Right. Back in the day, parents 20:07 probably never spoke to their children 20:10 about the dangers of, uh, lesbian, 20:13 bisexual, transgender, and so on; it 20:15 didn't exist. But I feel I must address 20:21 this topic with my children 20:24 so they don't find out from someone 20:25 else. 20:25 So they don't find out from someone 20:26 else. I'm afraid they might find out 20:27 from others. If they get the correct 20:29 information, it's okay. But what if 20:31 they learn, "Don't be surprised, you 20:33 know," that out there, it's not wrong 20:35 for women to make love with women, or 20:37 men with men. No. If they get that kind 20:39 of information, then what? Young, 20:41 innocent children who are like a blank 20:44 sheet of paper, untainted, written on 20:46 like a paper that’s being written on 20:48 for the first time with the wrong 20:50 language. It's chaotic. 20:52 It's really a pity. So, I really urge 20:54 us all to play an active role in this 20:56 matter. 20:57 Yeah. 20:58 Don't be shy about talking about it. Of 21:00 course, when I speak to my children, 21:02 the language for the first one is like 21:04 this. 21:05 The language for the second child is 21:06 different, and the language for the 21:07 third is different. That’s why the 21:09 most important thing is for parents to 21:10 never feel they are the smartest. 21:12 Correct. 21:13 Bosses should never feel they are the 21:15 smartest. 21:16 Entrepreneurs should never feel they 21:18 are the smartest. Because if you feel 21:20 you're the smartest, you stop learning 21:22 at that very moment. Why must we keep 21:25 learning? Because it evolves. Look at 21:27 mobile phone technology, no need to 21:28 look far. What year did you first use a 21:32 mobile phone? 21:35 2006. 21:37 2006. Alright then. 21:42 2006, what month? 21:44 You first used a phone in '96. That was 21:46 10 years ago. 21:47 That was a brand that's now... 21:50 Back then, if we wanted to use a phone, 21:52 we'd borrow mom's phone, right? 21:54 It was already phased out, the phone 21:56 was phased out and big. 21:58 Expensive price. 22:00 Right? 22:00 Yeah. 22:01 Back in the day, phones were expensive. 22:02 True. 22:03 Couldn't even write WhatsApp, there was 22:05 no SMS. 22:06 The SIM card alone was much more 22:07 expensive. 22:08 No SMS or anything, imagine the 22:10 development of phone technology from 22:12 '96. To 2000. Okay. '96 to 2010. '96 to 22:23 2010, then 2010 to 2022 now. It's fast, 22:27 you know. 22:28 Yes. 22:29 Someone even illustrated it like this: 22:32 the development of vehicles from 22:34 horse-drawn carriages to cars took 100 22:36 years. And from those first cars 100 22:40 years ago to current battery-powered 22:43 technology, that's manifold growth. 22:47 So technology is increasingly evolving, 22:50 technology, information, and everything 22:52 is growing very rapidly. When 22:53 technology evolves, information becomes 22:56 so easy to obtain. What does that mean? 22:58 The information coming at us will be so 23:00 fast. So we must never be caught off 23:02 guard. We must keep learning and 23:03 seeking information on everything. 23:06 Don't be shy if parents ask their kids 23:08 what the current song trends are. 23:10 Yeah. 23:10 Conversation trends. 23:12 Hm. 23:13 Right? 23:14 True. Online games. 23:15 Online games. We shouldn't get addicted 23:18 to online games, but we need to know so 23:20 we understand what the dangers are, and 23:23 so on. For example, kids playing PUBG. 23:26 Turns out you can meet people there. In 23:28 the old days, we didn't play anything 23:30 like that. 23:30 The first game we played was in the 23:33 Atari era. Did you experience Atari? Hm 23:37 . 23:38 Contra. 23:38 The blocky ones, like that. 23:41 Oh, Tetris. 23:42 Not Tetris, even before Tetris there 23:44 was Atari, then it evolved into 23:46 Nintendo. Hm. 23:47 Then Super Nintendo, Sega 16-bit. 23:50 Then it kept evolving, kept evolving, 23:52 now how is it? How is it now? No need 23:55 to go far, just FIFA Soccer. 23:57 It's on phones, right? 23:59 Wow, the visuals are so realistic now. 24:03 Back in the day, it was still stiff and 24:05 blocky like that. 24:05 Yes. 24:06 Early on. 24:08 Technology is evolving; if we don't 24:10 keep up with this progress, we'll fall 24:12 behind in information compared to the 24:13 kids. 24:14 True. 24:15 In the old days, it took a lot of 24:16 effort to find ways to ruin yourself. 24:18 Uh-huh. 24:19 Now, just waking up, we can ruin 24:21 ourselves because of the "flat devil," 24:22 right? 24:23 This "flat devil" has many benefits but 24:25 also many harms if we can't control it. 24:28 True. 24:29 True. Yes. But what do you think about 24:33 Kaiman? I once researched a community 24:38 of transgender sex workers. 24:43 Sex workers, transgender, PSK but 24:45 transgender, like that. TSW. 24:49 Transgender sex workers, but on average 24:53 , they become workers, and their rates 24:58 are even very, very cheap. 25:02 They are willing to be paid 10,000, 25:05 5,000, or 50,000 rupiah. Some of them 25:09 are even willing to do it for free, 25:12 because why? They need a friend. They 25:15 just need a friend. They need to, uh, 25:18 get rid of their loneliness as someone 25:21 who is different, as a...What does that 25:23 mean? It means there seems to be 25:27 something that needs to be improved in 25:30 how we treat them. Okay. We all agree 25:33 that this is something forbidden, 25:35 something that isn't allowed. But like 25:39 Iman said, they are divided into 25:41 several types. Let's not generalize 25:44 that all of them are people who 25:47 campaign for themselves or invite 25:50 others to be gay. Among them, there are 25:54 those who actually want to, they want 25:55 to fight it, they want to be straight 25:57 again, they want to return to normal, 25:59 but they don't get the right 26:00 environment. Eventually, they run away. 26:03 They run away and find the wrong 26:05 environment. Finally, they fall into 26:08 the circle 26:09 of those commercial sex workers earlier 26:11 . 26:12 That is really, really tragic. I met a 26:14 community and they said, "We used to 26:18 bury one person every month because of 26:21 HIV." God forbid, if there is someone 26:26 like that in our environment, and our 26:28 attitude toward them is wrong, they 26:30 might run away to an environment like 26:32 that and they 26:35 get the disease, and we would have 26:37 yes, have a part in it, 26:38 it feels like there is a sin involved. 26:40 How should we treat them, according to 26:44 you? 26:45 Yeah, it's actually confusing, right? 26:48 But that's it, everyone can be a 26:49 preacher. Yeah. 26:51 Everyone can preach in their own way 26:54 and capacity. 26:55 Yeah. 26:55 And everyone must, what is it? Everyone 26:59 must be active against vice. 27:01 Don't be reactive against the groups 27:03 that are actively trying to eradicate 27:05 vice by attacking them. Don't do that. 27:08 We must actively look, for example, if 27:10 there is a group that, wow, this is a 27:13 group with, uh, deviant sexual 27:15 orientations. The first thing to do is 27:18 not to judge, 27:20 but to clarify. Now, with clarification 27:25 , we can see, oh, it turns out that in 27:28 this group there are leaders who indeed 27:31 want to corrupt others. 27:33 Yeah. 27:34 While others, we can categorize them as 27:38 victims. 27:38 Yeah. 27:39 Okay. Our ability is to invite others 27:43 to be active as well. Now, actually, if 27:46 our level of concern for our fellow 27:48 human beings is high, God willing, they 27:51 can be saved. Now, if you want to judge 27:55 or punish, just do it to the 27:56 ringleaders, the instigators. 27:59 Yes. Right. At least if we are all 28:02 reactive in that way, 28:05 more will be saved. But the problem is 28:08 this, too. We, and I don't want to 28:10 speak for the scholars. Whenever we see 28:14 people who engage in sexual deviation. 28:18 Especially if we see gay people. Don't 28:22 be hypocritical, all of you and me. 28:26 When we see a gay couple, what do we do 28:28 ? We are afraid ourselves, right? We 28:31 try to avoid them instead of trying to 28:33 approach and draw them back. We 28:36 ourselves, ah, Mar, like that. Right? 28:41 Meanwhile, if they are girls, meeting 28:43 other girls, especially if the circle 28:44 is wrong, meeting someone who has 28:46 inclinations towards, uh, 28:48 yeah. 28:49 deviant orientations, they will 28:51 actually be influenced. It’s proven, 28:53 there are many like that. At my campus, 28:57 in my year, those who have declared 29:03 their sexual orientation, uh, not 29:06 according to their nature, there are 1, 29:09 2, 3...three people. Two more are 29:16 suspected and it's very obvious, but 29:18 they haven't declared it because we 29:20 aren't active enough. Yeah, they need 29:24 ... 29:25 we all have to be active 29:27 in da'wah. 29:28 I invite all Rasil listeners, "Let's be 29:30 active, come on. If not, then why? The 29:32 future isn't ours. How many more years 29:34 do we even have? Right? I don't know. 29:37 Wallahualam. But I mean, our children, 29:40 our descendants will face dangers, 29:42 heavier burdens if we just sit idly by. 29:45 " Uh-huh. 29:48 If we can only judge, we sit there just 29:49 saying, "Oh, this person is like this, 29:51 oh, that person is like that," just 29:52 judging, slandering, and saying bad 29:54 things. 29:54 Yeah. 29:55 To someone who isn't necessarily wrong, 29:57 saying they don't know, we Indonesians 29:59 love judging people, right, Mr. Musa? 30:01 Judging others without knowing the 30:03 cause. Even with wrong information, 30:05 they are willing to judge, dirtying 30:07 their mouths. 30:08 Uh-huh. 30:08 Not knowing what the cause is like. 30:10 Yeah, 30:11 sir. Uh, for example, among these sex 30:16 workers, there are those who want to 30:19 repent. 30:20 Yeah. 30:22 But they are trapped by debt or loans 30:25 to, for example, their pimp. 30:28 Hm. 30:29 We still—but we still have to admit 30:31 that what you are doing is wrong. 30:33 Wrong, 30:34 the act is wrong, it's forbidden, and 30:37 this incurs Allah's wrath. 30:38 The solution is repentance. 30:40 But I have debt. Do you want to receive 30:42 Allah's help or not? If we can, let's 30:46 work together to get them out of there. 30:48 If they need work, come on, give them a 30:50 job. But if we as a society have tried 30:53 to help, tried to assist, and they 30:54 still jump into it, then maybe they 30:56 actually enjoy it. 30:58 He. 30:58 Then it's okay to judge. 31:00 But if we haven't helped or done 31:02 anything yet and we're already judging, 31:03 then that's wrong. Someone has fallen 31:06 and we throw stones at them, we are 31:08 playing a role in 31:10 creating their hell. It's like, 31:13 they are wrong and we can only judge, 31:15 so they get even more hateful towards 31:17 those who are in the right position. " 31:21 Maybe you can talk like that, but you 31:22 don't know how I feel, why I ended up 31:24 doing this." Uh, these groups, that's 31:26 why, come on, let's help each other. 31:29 Aren't friends among, for example, sex 31:31 workers or people with deviant 31:33 lifestyles more solid? 31:36 Yeah. They become more attached to 31:37 their own environment. Meanwhile, other 31:39 people who are, alhamdulillah, in a 31:41 right economic state and the right 31:43 position, can only judge. Let's assume 31:47 one is in the right position, and the 31:48 other is in the wrong position. But the 31:50 person who is right doesn't share that 31:52 truth with others. Yes, this is getting 31:54 more solid. 31:54 Yes. 31:55 What about our responsibility in the 31:56 afterlife? Later. 31:57 Allah will surely ask, "Hey, someone 31:59 near you was doing this. El, what about 32:01 it? What was your role?" They perform, 32:06 they enter hell because of the mistakes 32:08 they made. 32:09 Yes. 32:09 We can enter hell because of our 32:11 indifference. 32:12 Yes. 32:12 It's not like that, babe. Isa. 32:14 You're such a know-it-all. 32:15 Even though last week you shared 32:16 something really cool. 32:17 But it's so tense today. Yeah, let's 32:19 take a break. Break first. Break first, 32:21 friends, so it doesn't get even more 32:23 tense. For those who want to 32:25 participate, you can send a WhatsApp 32:27 directly to 0812. That's your number, 32:31 12? 32:32 0811999720. Or if you want to call 32:36 interactively, we can chat directly. 32:38 Come on, those who want to consult with 32:40 Uncle Firman, take the chance while 32:41 he's here, his schedule is very busy, 32:43 0218451512. We will return after this. 35:45 Heh. Brail TV. 37:07 Still with us, brothers and sisters, 37:09 wherever you are. The Sunday night 37:11 chill tonight is a bit heated, brothers 37:13 and sisters, because apparently this 37:15 issue is very, uh, very close to Iman. 37:19 Very relatable, as the kids today would 37:20 say, very relatable. So Iman is a bit 37:24 sentimental tonight. Uh, there is a 37:28 WhatsApp from Mr., from Bunda Abay, uh, 37:31 from Mrs. Muriati from Kapuk. 37:34 Assalamu'alaikum Ustaz Firman, Ustaz 37:35 Sasa, and Ustaz Isa. 37:37 Sasa? Musa, Musa, Ma'am. Musa, Ma'am. 37:42 It's okay, Ma'am. I'm the other guy, 37:44 Ustaz. Uh, Ustaz Isa likes to convey 37:47 verses of the Qur'an. Please mention 37:49 which surah and which verse Ustaz Isa 37:51 just shared. 37:53 Which one is that? 37:54 The one you said was a hadith or a 37:56 saying of Imam Ali earlier? 37:58 There were no verses earlier. This 37:59 wasn't mentioned. 38:00 Not yet? No verses yet tonight, Mrs. 38:03 Muriati, from. 38:04 Just people rambling. From me, Mr. Yudi 38:10 . Earlier, there was a discussion about 38:12 the Atari game with Mr. Musa. It looks 38:15 like he's as old as I am. Oh, Iman was 38:17 the one who discussed it, Mr. Yudi, the 38:18 Atari. My question for Uncle Firman. 38:21 How to reduce global LGBT? What should 38:24 be done by various countries? Phone. 38:29 Answer the phone first, okay. 38:31 Assalamu'alaikum. Is this Ms. Tari? 38:39 Assalamu'alaikum. 38:40 Wa'alaikumussalam warahmatullahi 38:43 wabarakatuh. 38:44 Kodai here. 38:45 Yes, Bib. 38:46 Mashallah, are you healthy, brother? 38:49 Alhamdulillah, Bib. I'm healthy, Bib. 38:51 Is Kemayoran safe? Kemayoran? 38:53 Alhamdulillah, it's safe. A bit crowded 38:54 just a little ways off. 38:55 Oh, is there a celebration going on? 38:57 Wanga, right? That's it. 38:58 Yes, a celebration. 38:59 J Expo. 39:00 Yeah, that's it. 39:01 If I'm performing, come over, brother. 39:03 When, brother? No, I think maybe next 39:06 year I'll play at PRJ again. Oh, two, 39:10 man. 39:11 I was offered. 39:12 Yeah. 39:13 Oh, right. 39:15 Yeah. Yeah, lately it feels like people 39:18 doing that aren't even shy anymore, man 39:20 . Yeah, there's just no, you know, 39:23 feeling. It seems like even on social 39:25 media, they spread it like it's normal, 39:26 man. 39:27 Huh. 39:28 And there's no filtering from our side 39:29 either. Whereas in Islam, for LGBT, 39:32 it’s certain, man, there's a process 39:35 from childhood. Usually, they don't 39:38 just suddenly become LGBT, man. And for 39:41 the Gs, it's not certain they won't 39:42 have children. Because there's the B, 39:45 right, bisexual, man. Can be with men, 39:48 can be with women too. 39:49 Yeah. 39:50 Yeah. That exists in animals like pigs 39:52 and chimpanzees too. Yeah. That's in 39:56 animals, but in humans, well, judge for 39:58 yourself, right? But it usually starts 40:00 from childhood, man. That's why in our 40:01 religion, the hadith is clear, right, 40:03 man? Teach children to pray at age 7, 40:07 age 10. If they refuse, we discipline 40:10 them and separate boys and girls in 40:12 their beds, right? That's actually, 40:15 psychologically, one of the reasons, 40:17 man. But the language is polite, man. 40:20 The language is very, very polite. And 40:24 usually, from a young age, if a boy 40:27 sleeps too often with his mother or his 40:30 older or younger sister, eventually he 40:33 can, you know, lose his masculinity, 40:36 man. Because he sees his sister getting 40:40 dressed or putting on makeup so often, 40:42 right, man? Yeah, that's why the 40:43 Prophet said to separate them, there's 40:45 actually a psychological impact there, 40:48 man. Huh. 40:48 So they don't just suddenly become LGBT 40:51 , no. There must be a reason, man. 40:53 There's a cause. Now, that's what we 40:55 need to know, man. If we want to cure 40:57 things like that, man. 40:59 Once we know the cause, we can slowly 41:02 fix it. But for the stubborn ones, the 41:04 punishment is also severe, right, man? 41:06 Maybe Habib Isa knows more about that, 41:08 right? From the Quran and hadith, he is 41:11 more qualified. This is just sharing, 41:14 man. Yeah. Also, if possible, we should 41:17 monitor our children, man. Don't just 41:20 jump in, man. 41:21 Like, "This is wrong, that is wrong." 41:22 Don't, or we'll get kicked out, man. 41:24 That's it. If we can, we should make a 41:26 secret personal account, man. That our 41:29 kids don't know about, man. 41:30 Anonymous, yeah. 41:31 Like that. Yeah. That's so if they 41:33 stray a little, we can guide them 41:35 slowly, using their own language style 41:37 too, man. 41:39 But we shouldn't do it directly like 41:40 that, brother. Right. 41:42 Yeah. It’s just about the tricks, 41:44 brother. Like that, brother. Yeah. Like 41:46 that, brother. Hopefully, 41:48 if our children, our children, suddenly 41:52 their father creates a new account. 41:56 Suddenly the father makes an account 41:58 and follows them, they’d definitely 41:59 be nervous. 42:01 That’s why, brother, I said, we 42:03 should make a separate personal account 42:05 , not under our own name, maybe 42:07 anonymous or whatever name. That’s 42:09 just to be a friend, brother. Like that 42:11 , brother. Yeah. 42:12 Because if we don’t get into their 42:14 world, it’s truly difficult, brother. 42:16 Instead of them confiding in other 42:17 people, right, brother? Yeah, 42:19 like that. 42:20 Yes, that’s right. 42:20 We are the ones who guide them directly 42:22 , brother. Indeed, this is 42:23 parents nowadays have to work extra 42:26 hard. Outside we earn money, at home we 42:28 guard our faith. 42:30 Yes. 42:31 That’s intense. 42:33 Repeat, repeat, repeat. 42:34 Nice one. Right. Want to confirm, a 42:37 good father is what again? Outside earn 42:40 money, at home guard the faith. 42:42 Eh, that’s good, brother. Okay. 42:45 Make one for him, Ji, later, Mr. Uji. 42:47 Betawi people make it easy to say "nice 42:48 one." 42:49 That’s nice. 42:50 Nice one. 42:51 Right, brother. Anyway, later Habib 42:54 Firman and Habib Isya will explain it 42:57 more to us. I’m just sharing a little 43:00 , just a little. Thank you so much, 43:02 brother. Stay healthy, brother. 43:04 Greetings to the residents of Kemayoran 43:05 , brother. 43:06 To build ties, 43:08 take a walk to Kemayoran. 43:10 Nice one. 43:11 Done. 43:11 Yes. Just looking for a "nice one." 43:16 Oh my God. 43:17 Once they get the "nice one," they 43:18 leave. What about 43:20 global LGBT? 43:21 Yes. What about that, Keman? 43:23 Let’s not go global yet. Let’s go 43:25 local first. 43:26 Yeah, that’s true. 43:26 The way is that we all must be active. 43:28 Yes, that’s right. 43:30 Fellow Muslims are like one body. Yeah. 43:32 If one is hurt, the other feels the 43:35 pain. If we have truly grasped that, 43:38 God willing, we can. And don’t just 43:40 be able to judge. Done. 43:42 Yes, that’s right. Right. 43:43 Because whoever they are, not just LGBT 43:45 , whoever they are, when judged, they 43:47 will definitely keep their distance. 43:48 Yes, that’s true. 43:49 Peace be upon you, Brother Iman, Kamusa 43:51 , and Brother Isa. I am Mrs. Juni from 43:53 Ciputat, I want to do something useful 43:55 for others. For example, for the 43:57 marginalized groups we discussed 43:59 earlier. But I don’t know where I can 44:01 join. Do you have ideas or input, 44:04 please guide me. Thank you very much. 44:08 Come on, for Rasil listeners who have 44:11 information about marginalized groups, 44:14 please share via WhatsApp. For example, 44:18 if there is a group, say an LGBT group 44:21 that wants to repent, are they 44:24 gathering in any area? 44:27 Come on, give us the information. 44:28 It’s okay, let’s go reach out and 44:30 help together. Yes. I 44:32 For example, if I know, sir, there is 44:34 an LGBT group but they want to repent 44:36 and live in the Ciputat area. If they 44:39 need an ustadz, please provide the 44:40 information to us. We will send ISA. 44:42 We can also bring RIF. 44:46 Oh yes, Habib Rofik is really good for 44:49 for for 44:50 He is good at dakwah. He is 44:51 knowledgeable. Masha Allah. 44:52 He has knowledge, his aura is good. 44:53 Basically, we are active. Whoever has 44:55 information, please let's share that 44:56 information. 44:57 You can go through Ondi or Rasil. 44:59 Ready. What's the number, On? Let's 45:01 just share it. 45:04 Sometimes our friends here also really 45:06 want to seek the truth, but in 45:09 Or you can go to Rasil's Twitter 45:11 @rasilofficial. 45:12 Is it active again? 45:13 Yes, it is. 45:14 Alhamdulillah. 45:15 @rasilal 45:17 @r o f i c i a l. 45:21 Yes. 45:21 Yeah. Please go ahead, please go ahead. 45:24 Please. Assalamu'alaikum from Mrs. 45:26 Maria. Why, Rasil? At 10 PM. It's quiet 45:30 . Well, for Isha, technically if we 45:33 listen until morning to Ustadz Her 45:35 Nurdi and the Quran, we'll fall asleep 45:37 soundly. Now it's quiet, it would be a 45:39 shame to change the global broadcast, 45:40 Rasil is always in my heart. 45:43 What do you think, Ustadz Isa? 45:44 Insha Allah, just pray for it. 45:46 It's actually until 12 AM now too for 45:47 me. 45:47 Yes, it's already. 45:48 It's been extended by 2 hours, Mrs. 45:50 Maria. 45:50 Pray for us, pray for us. 45:51 Maybe the reruns can be filled and 45:52 condensed. 45:53 Insha Allah. Insha Allah, the reruns 45:56 are starting to be fewer. Unless the 45:58 scholars are unavailable or have an 46:00 event. 46:00 Yes. Don't broadcast then. You yourself 46:03 were just somewhere else but insisted 46:05 on coming here for the broadcast. 46:09 Even though Ustadz was promised 46:10 something interesting, Kak Iman. 46:12 What is it, if I may know? 46:15 No need, no need to know. 46:17 Alhamdulillah. 46:18 Okay. There is another one from Mr. 46:20 Mukhtar in Ciracas, East Jakarta. 46:22 Alhamdulillah, currently listening. 46:23 Thank you Rasil. Insha Allah, becoming 46:24 more successful and triumphant. Amen. 46:26 Amen, O Lord. Amen, O Lord. 46:28 Then from Mas Fahri in Oh, this is Mas 46:30 Fahri at the operator desk. 46:32 This is Mas Fahri. 46:34 Not yet. Fine. 46:37 Not that one. 46:39 No. It is Fahri. 46:40 Oh, correct. 46:42 From Mas Hafiz in Lembata, 46:44 Alhamdulillah always present from Mrs. 46:46 Dalminah. Listening via YouTube because 46:48 I'm still out of town. Be careful, 46:49 Ma'am. Hope you arrive safely at your 46:51 destination. From Mrs. Siti Himzah. 46:53 Ma'am, Mr. Muhammad Hanafi is absent. 46:55 So that's how it is, Kak Iman. This 46:57 LGBT issue is something that needs to 47:00 be discussed, but sometimes we are 47:02 hesitant to discuss it. 47:03 Back to the topic. 47:04 Yeah. But why are friends who have have 47:12 a deviant orientation often so humorous 47:14 ? Their speech is, you know, they speak 47:20 in a funny way. 47:21 They speak in a funny, carefree way, 47:23 even though they are internally 47:24 burdened. 47:24 Yes, that's true, sometimes they do 47:27 like to cry alone in the middle of the 47:29 night, feeling "Oh, why is my life like 47:32 this?" but what they show is 47:34 cheerfulness. 47:35 and they have the courage to campaign 47:37 for gay pride 47:39 yeah 47:40 gay pride, proud to take to the streets 47:42 that was yesterday, this month right? 47:43 this month, why don't we have a 47:45 straight campaign, we are straight, 47:48 straight pride, proud like that? 47:51 Let's embrace it, let's do it. But how 47:53 is it? But, nah, I'm afraid if I speak 47:56 out, afraid of judging, it's also a 47:58 hassle. Ha 48:00 it's difficult to be in a condition 48:01 like this. We must admit the fault is 48:04 with all of us for being negligent 48:06 toward the development of information. 48:08 Yeah. 48:09 Toward everything. 48:10 Yeah 48:11 we are wrong. We have to admit it. 48:12 Yes. 48:13 We used the wrong treatment. Yes. No. 48:16 Like, like an iceberg. Yesterday on 48:19 that podcast, it only seemed to appear 48:21 a little, but the root of the problem 48:24 was extraordinary. 48:25 And what's funny is he said, "Just 48:28 because I'm ugly, I get judged, that 48:30 handsome artist..." 48:32 they're the same too. But you defend it 48:34 , it's really like that sometimes in 48:35 Indonesia, huh? 48:36 True, actually, it's like that 48:37 everywhere. This is also quite 48:38 frustrating. So let's get the emotions 48:40 high first, then we'll break. 48:41 Yeah. If the one committing the crime 48:45 or deviation is handsome, a famous 48:48 artist, or a famous figure, they commit 48:51 a deviation, many people defend them. 48:56 But try looking at ordinary people who 48:58 already get judged, like when I make a 49:00 mistake, do people defend me? When I 49:03 make a mistake, am I judged? Even 49:05 without verification, I'm judged, 49:06 immediately reported, put on trial, " 49:08 this person did this, this, this," 49:09 immediately judged without verification 49:11 . It's not fair, it's not fair. We have 49:15 made injustice a deeply rooted 49:17 tradition. That's the mistake. That's 49:20 why it's hard for us to improve. 49:22 Beauty privilege. 49:23 Ah, beauty privilege, right. People, 49:26 when handsome people, famous artists, 49:28 commit adultery. Wow, their supporters. 49:31 Be patient, Bro. Hope you remain 49:33 successful. Prayed for. 49:35 Yeah. 49:36 Try it with ordinary people, right, 49:38 they make the same mistake and they get 49:40 beaten up. 49:41 They get what's coming to them. " 49:43 Already ugly, doing this, whack, whack, 49:45 whack." Ah 49:46 it's not fair, you know. 49:48 Yeah. 49:49 Let's take a break first so it doesn't 49:51 get any hotter. For Iwan and those who 49:53 want to participate, you can send a 49:55 WhatsApp directly to 0811999720 or the 50:00 interactive line at 0218451512. We will 50:04 return after this. Brail TV with me 52:49 Muhammad Musa Alkaf, Firman Muslim 52:51 Tahir, and Muhammad Isa Alqaf on the 52:53 Sunday night chill show, tonight is 52:56 exactly June 26th and also 26 Dhu 52:58 al-Qi'dah. It's rare for the Gregorian 53:02 date and Hijri date to be the same. 53:05 Is it really the 26th now? 53:07 Yes, that's right. 53:08 Eid al-Adha is coming soon, right? 53:10 Oh yeah. 53:12 On the 10th. 53:15 July, if I'm not mistaken. 53:16 9th. 53:16 July 9th, right? 53:17 On the calendar it's the 9th, yes. 53:19 Depends on the crescent moon later. 53:20 Yes, yes, yes. 53:22 Ah, friends, if you are confused about 53:24 where to sacrifice, you can sacrifice 53:26 at Markaz Syariah. 53:27 Let's read the WhatsApp number. Go 53:29 ahead, K. Sure. Sure. 53:30 Great Sacrifice at Markaz Syariah. 53:32 Aji. 53:33 Great sacrifice at Markaz Syariah. 53:34 Great sacrifice at Markaz Syariah. 53:37 Repeat, repeat. 53:39 If you want to offer a sacrifice, where 53:40 do you go? Wait a minute. 53:42 Okay, while I open the information. 53:45 So, if you want to offer a sacrifice, 53:47 where do you go? If we offer a 53:48 sacrifice, 53:49 offer it at the Markaz Syariah Grand 53:52 Qurban. Wow. 53:54 Markaz Syariah: low price, abundant 53:56 rewards, gain blessings with Markaz 53:59 Syariah. The price is very affordable, 54:01 man. For friends who want to sacrifice 54:04 a sheep of 20 to 25 kilos, the price is 54:07 only 1,950,000 IDR. 54:10 Wow, 54:10 still under 2 million, guys. 54:11 Seriously? 54:12 Yeah. If you want to sacrifice a goat 54:15 weighing 26 to 30 kilos, it’s only 3 54:17 million IDR. God willing, the sacrifice 54:22 will be distributed to those who truly 54:25 need it and the slaughtering is done 54:28 according to Islamic principles. If you 54:31 guys want to, you can directly contact 54:33 WhatsApp at 081282010142. 081282010142. 54:45 Markaz Syariah Grand Qurban. 54:46 W 54:48 brutal. 54:49 Brutal. Eh, there's a lot of this now, 54:52 the cow disease or FMD, what is 54:55 that cow disease? There is a cow 54:57 outbreak. 54:58 This cow outbreak is very common as Eid 54:59 al-Adha approaches. Oh God, I feel so 55:00 sorry for the cow farmers. It's sad, 55:02 they already saved up to buy one, then 55:04 it suddenly died and they couldn't 55:06 sacrifice. 55:07 Oh God, may our brothers, the cow 55:09 farmers, be given strength. 55:11 Making it a clue, right. They already 55:14 saved, they wanted to sacrifice, 55:16 already paid for the cow. Didn't know 55:17 the cow would die. God willing, God has 55:19 already recorded it. Amen. 55:20 Right, right. God willing. 55:22 From Ms. Atalia Del Leon. Oh, it’s 55:24 long. Assalamu'alaikum, sis. Great 55:26 topic. It reminds me that young Muslims 55:29 actually interact a lot with that 55:31 community. For instance, at the office, 55:34 most of them are not strong in religion 55:36 and they need guidance to straighten 55:38 their views on the limits of tolerance. 55:41 I personally have experienced how 55:42 difficult it is to act around friends 55:44 from that community because my 55:45 knowledge is also lacking. But on the 55:47 other hand, I don't want to judge them 55:49 and I want to invite them to something 55:50 better. Cool for you guys. 55:52 Cool. Cool 55:52 this. It's not just me. Many other 55:55 Muslim men and women on the front lines 55:57 of interaction are confused about what 55:59 strategy to use. And we don't have 56:01 enough religious provision, and we are 56:03 separated from the religious community. 56:05 To a point where I also see many 56:07 Muslims who accept them because they 56:09 prioritize human rights. And on this 56:13 front line, most of us end up letting 56:15 it be because we don't know what to do. 56:18 Don't want harsh preaching, but also 56:20 don't know how to do it. What makes me 56:23 personally sadder is when many of these 56:26 young Muslims become too liberal and 56:28 adopt many values from outside the 56:31 religion. Is da'wah to change their 56:35 pro-stance minds necessary through 56:36 logical discussions like in the 56:38 anti-LGBT documentary "What is a Woman" 56:40 that was just released, or is there an 56:42 Islamic approach? Oh, here it is, the 56:45 anti-LGBT documentary titled "What is a 56:48 Woman". Thank you, brother. So sorry 56:52 it's long. This is indeed very 56:53 concerning. 56:54 Sometimes there are people who are, er, 56:56 liberal, liberal, campaigning for 56:58 liberalism, but because they campaign 57:00 for it so aggressively, they end up 57:01 becoming radical too. 57:03 Radical against, against 57:06 radical liberalism. 57:08 Yes. Oh my. Forcing people, this is a 57:10 real experience, Ma'am, 57:11 the facts are like this, right, 57:13 Ma'am. Sometimes they hide behind the 57:17 guise of human rights issues, right. 57:21 And the term is true, er, we like it 57:25 because we're used to it. 57:27 At first, we are against it, don't like 57:29 it, resistant, 57:30 but it's forced upon us until finally 57:32 we reject it, 57:33 eventually, we get used to facing LGBT 57:35 like that. 57:36 And we are both busy, and because of 57:38 our busyness, we both lack the study 57:41 on how to actually deal with them. 57:44 Indeed, if we have the strength, we 57:46 have the knowledge, we fight back. But 57:48 the lowest level of our faith is to 57:50 remain silent. 57:50 Hmm. 57:51 Do not acknowledge their truth. 57:53 Do not reject the truth. 57:54 Let us not reject it. That is the 57:56 lowest form of faith. That is already 57:58 correct. 57:59 Ma'am, look for something that can help 58:01 more. Come on. That's why for me, the 58:03 most important thing is that we stay 58:05 united together. Yes, 58:07 that's why I really feel like 58:09 the verse "wa'tashimu bihablillahi 58:12 jami'a" can be applied to various 58:14 problem solutions, right, 58:17 it seems like if we truly unite, we 58:19 really can solve these problems. 58:23 Er, I know for myself, I have friends 58:25 who are in the office. Sometimes, if I 58:28 meet clients like that, hmm, 58:32 if I reject it, the project is gone. If 58:38 I don't, if I don't reject it, it 58:40 creates inner conflict. 58:42 Yes, that's right. 58:43 Sometimes when there are many projects, 58:44 you're just blunt. Yes, 58:46 Ma'am. Can't do that, Ma'am. Can't do 58:48 that, Sir. The opinion is wrong if 58:49 there are many projects. If projects 58:50 are scarce, right, 58:51 we reject them politely. Uh-huh. Yes, 58:54 that's right. Correct. I mean, we 58:57 really have to be solid; this Muslim 58:59 community must be one body that 59:00 supports one another 59:02 so that whatever is not worthy 59:04 according to Islam will be filtered out 59:06 on its own. Islam is a universal 59:08 religion, why can it be put into 59:10 a universal life. 59:12 Correct. 59:12 If we apply Islam correctly, in a 59:14 kaffah way, even non-Muslims will 59:16 definitely be interested. 59:18 Hmm, 59:18 if I'm not mistaken, Khabib, yeah, 59:20 Khabib, the MMA fighter, 59:22 Nurmagedov. 59:23 Nurmagedov. They will not listen. They 59:26 will not listen to what? They do not 59:28 understand hadiths and Quranic verses. 59:30 What they see is your attitude as a 59:32 Muslim. That's why show yourself as 59:35 a good Muslim so that people are 59:37 interested. 59:39 Yes. 59:40 If we show ourselves as good Muslims, 59:42 people will be interested. This person 59:43 is very interesting and all that. 59:45 Like Brother Musa, right. 59:46 Oh my. Don't say that. 59:48 Becoming a good Arsenal fan and all 59:51 that. Finally, the approach worked. Now 59:54 he has three children. 59:57 Oh my God. 59:58 Ah, MashaAllah. Anyway, moving on to, 1:00:01 eh, but it's true, er, Muhammad's 1:00:03 friend. Muhammad's younger brother, eh, 1:00:06 Muhammad's older brother, Sisa, er, 1:00:08 between Muhammad and Muhammad, right. 1:00:09 So there is Muhammad. 1:00:10 Uh-huh. 1:00:11 between Muhammad and Muhammad. 1:00:13 Isa has an older brother named Muhammad 1:00:14 . His friend is normal, but he has a 1:00:18 friend who is, um, gay. These gay 1:00:22 friends want to make Muhammad's friend 1:00:25 gay. How do we make Muhammad's friend 1:00:28 turn gay? Let's just say, I don't know 1:00:30 his name. Let's call him Fulan. Let's 1:00:32 make Fulan gay, shall we? His gay 1:00:34 friends said. Finally, he was invited 1:00:36 on a vacation. Invited for a vacation 1:00:38 for a few days 1:00:40 in Bali, right. 1:00:41 I don't know where. Anyway, out of town 1:00:42 , taking a plane, because 1:00:44 in, uh, in Bali. Out of town. Coming 1:00:46 back from the vacation, he had become 1:00:47 gay. 1:00:49 So it really is contagious. This is 1:00:51 just a few individuals, right? A few, 1:00:53 not all of our gay friends have the 1:00:55 ambition to convert others. But we also 1:00:58 shouldn't close our eyes to the fact 1:01:00 that 1:01:00 there are some like that. 1:01:01 There are some whose ambition is indeed 1:01:02 to convert others. 1:01:03 And this is real. This is also real. I 1:01:05 just heard it, it's truly real. Hm. 1:01:08 During COVID, all school was 1:01:11 online. 1:01:12 Online, so a boy met a girl 1:01:18 through, um, social media, they 1:01:22 exchanged numbers and the photo shown 1:01:26 was a girl's. Heh. 1:01:28 Confiding, sharing, until feelings of 1:01:30 love emerged. 1:01:31 Ah, comfortable, right. 1:01:32 But he never wanted to talk on the 1:01:34 phone. Never wanted to, anyway, they 1:01:35 were already in love and everything. 1:01:36 Feelings of love had emerged, they were 1:01:38 in love. 1:01:38 Until finally they made plans to meet. 1:01:41 Hm. 1:01:42 When it was time, 1:01:44 when they met, you wouldn't believe it. 1:01:46 The one who claimed to be a woman was a 1:01:48 man. 1:01:48 Geez. 1:01:51 On one hand, he was really disappointed 1:01:53 . On the other hand, he was already too 1:01:54 deep in, too in love. 1:01:56 Go on, go on, go on. 1:01:59 As 1:01:59 real, real. Oh my, what can you do? 1:02:05 They both have mustaches anyway. Want 1:02:06 to blame them. 1:02:08 Oh my, what can you do? Because 1:02:10 feelings are 1:02:11 difficult. 1:02:11 It's hard once feelings are involved. 1:02:13 That's why we as parents who already 1:02:15 have children 1:02:17 should not be dictators. Don't. We must 1:02:21 learn to understand our children. 1:02:23 Yes. 1:02:24 We should get close to our children. We 1:02:26 need to know who they have a crush on 1:02:28 and everything else. Correct. 1:02:30 I try to get close to my children. 1:02:32 Like one of my kids opening up. I 1:02:34 invite them to chat, I listen until 1:02:36 they share. Is there anyone you like at 1:02:40 school? There is. Whoa, my heart is 1:02:42 racing. There's a boy who likes her. 1:02:44 And she got confessed to. Yes, 1:02:46 confessed to. My heart is racing, you 1:02:47 know. My daughter was confessed to by a 1:02:49 boy, what did she say? Yes, I like you. 1:02:53 You're pretty. Then what was your 1:02:55 answer? Yes, thank you. 1:03:00 So she just answered "thank you" 1:03:02 yeah. Thank you. Heh. 1:03:04 So it's like "I love you,""So do I." I 1:03:06 like you. "I, I like myself too." No, I 1:03:11 don't want that, how cheesy, what's 1:03:12 that lovey-dovey stuff. Oh God, thank 1:03:15 goodness. 1:03:15 But it means we continue to 1:03:18 because I heard those words, I 1:03:20 immediately got closer because I wanted 1:03:22 to know. 1:03:23 It's not that, as people say, it's just 1:03:25 being super curious. Yeah, yeah, super 1:03:27 curious. Whatever, the important thing 1:03:28 is we want to know the treatment. Yeah, 1:03:30 but we have to make them comfortable to 1:03:32 confide in us. Don't let them be afraid 1:03:35 . Just comfortable, just comfortable. 1:03:38 Iman, your kids consider you a friend, 1:03:40 that's nice; I mean, the dynamic 1:03:41 becomes like friends, so it's close. 1:03:44 But it's also a pity if the age gap is 1:03:46 huge, how do 1:03:47 you handle it? That 1:03:48 parents whose kids have a large age gap 1:03:50 , they're from different generations, 1:03:51 completely different. 1:03:51 Iman is also from a different 1:03:53 generation, the age gap is large too. 1:03:55 How many years difference between you 1:03:56 and Naila? 1:03:57 I mean 1:03:58 25 years. Yeah, maybe it's around there 1:04:00 . 1:04:00 30 maybe. 1:04:03 He keeps up with the times, the changes 1:04:05 of the era, the changes 1:04:08 27 26 years. 1:04:11 It's 26 years already. 1:04:13 So it's not a matter of age, the matter 1:04:16 is 1:04:16 parents must be diligent. 1:04:18 Whether the parents want to keep up or 1:04:20 not. 1:04:21 Musa, Musa is so cool, when I chatted 1:04:23 with Musa, he was determined that his 1:04:25 eldest child, who is in middle school, 1:04:27 would be brought to Tarim. 1:04:29 Because he said the foundation of 1:04:31 education is most important in middle 1:04:32 school, and I hadn't thought of that. 1:04:34 Wow, that's true, isn't it? 1:04:36 Assalamu'alaikum Iman, Musa, Isa, this 1:04:38 is from Mrs. Siti. If a high school boy 1:04:41 is effeminate, how do you talk to him? 1:04:44 Advising him to be a real man, because 1:04:47 a high schooler's soul is the hardest 1:04:49 to advise. 1:04:50 Syukran. 1:04:52 How should I put it? There is, I have a 1:04:56 real case here, the guy is effeminate 1:04:59 with his friends, how? Finally, he was 1:05:01 brought into activities that are really 1:05:03 masculine. Brought to martial arts, 1:05:07 brought to that. But it turns out he 1:05:09 became even happier because he saw guys 1:05:11 who were strong, 1:05:12 handsome. He was brave, there are many 1:05:16 guys, when they take off their shirts, 1:05:18 he enjoys it even more, so he got worse 1:05:19 . 1:05:21 So how do you do it? Yeah. 1:05:23 Can it be directed toward closeness 1:05:25 between the child and the parents? 1:05:27 Yes. 1:05:28 Well, 1:05:29 by providing a sense of love and 1:05:31 affection, parents love their children. 1:05:34 Parents will give the best for their 1:05:36 children so that the children will also 1:05:38 give the best to their parents. If 1:05:43 parents love their children sincerely 1:05:47 and totally, 1:05:48 the child will surely try not to 1:05:49 disappoint their parents. 1:05:51 Yeah. Yeah. But most of us parents just 1:05:53 demand things from our children. 1:05:56 Yeah. 1:05:56 Demanding things from the child or 1:05:57 losing to them. 1:06:00 Yeah. 1:06:00 Yeah. It's not like that. If we don't 1:06:03 demand, we lose, unless we show them 1:06:06 that we are giving our all. 1:06:08 What do you need from your parents? Not 1:06:10 , most of us say, "I, as a father, want 1:06:13 you to be like this," no. What kind of 1:06:15 father do you want me to be? They don't 1:06:17 want it like that. They don't want to 1:06:18 hear things like that. We only know how 1:06:20 to demand, point, point, point. The 1:06:23 more we point, the further the child 1:06:24 will drift away. 1:06:26 Yeah. 1:06:26 I actually have a friend who is 1:06:28 effeminate. 1:06:29 Even back in college, I was sure he 1:06:31 wasn't right. 1:06:33 Back in my college days, I was 100%sure 1:06:35 this guy was gay. 1:06:37 Are you sure? He has three kids now. 1:06:40 Alhamdulillah, right. 1:06:41 Yes. 1:06:42 And he's straight as an arrow. Yeah. 1:06:44 I don't know what he had in his heart 1:06:45 or anything like that. The important 1:06:47 thing is the child fought it because he 1:06:48 had a close bond with his family 1:06:49 environment. 1:06:50 That's right. Yeah. 1:06:51 His family supported him, right? 1:06:52 Accompanied him until finally he 1:06:54 returned to the right path. 1:06:56 Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy 1:06:57 and blessings. Brother Musa, Brother 1:06:59 Iman, Ustadzah. I'm from the older 1:07:01 generation here. 1:07:02 Uh. 1:07:03 A long-time generation. 1:07:05 What I mean is, I want to say that LGBT 1:07:07 has been in this country for a very 1:07:08 long time. 1:07:09 Oh, I see. I have experience regarding 1:07:11 this gay issue. When I was still 1:07:12 working, a colleague of mine was gay. 1:07:14 People like them are very secretive, 1:07:15 right? So, I don't know what the cause 1:07:17 was. The thing is, this gay guy had 1:07:19 more religious knowledge than me. He 1:07:22 was good at reciting, and he had a 1:07:23 beautiful recitation voice too. So, if 1:07:25 we tried to advise him, he would 1:07:26 definitely fend it off. Now, when 1:07:29 facing something like this, what should 1:07:31 we do? Yes, thank you. We should learn 1:07:33 more. 1:07:34 Don't you think? 1:07:35 Yes. We know our opponent is like a 1:07:37 boxer. 1:07:38 Knowing our opponent is skilled, right? 1:07:39 We train more so we gain knowledge. We 1:07:42 know this person has more knowledge, so 1:07:44 we study even more or, if necessary, we 1:07:46 absorb his knowledge? Yes. What about 1:07:50 you, Brother Musa? 1:07:52 How should I put it? Sometimes, a 1:07:55 heart-to-heart talk, because what we 1:07:57 convey from the heart will reach their 1:07:59 heart as well. But, honestly, I also 1:08:02 had an experience when I was at the 1:08:03 boarding school. Brother Iman, it 1:08:05 wasn't a pleasant experience either. Uh 1:08:07 , I had a junior, and I was told by a 1:08:10 friend. One day a friend told me, "Musa 1:08:14 , who opened your pants last night?" It 1:08:18 was a junior, "because you don't wake 1:08:19 up easily when you're sleeping." Oh, I 1:08:22 was emotional, and I was angry, so 1:08:25 finally, because my senior was gone, I 1:08:27 beat him up. At night when he was 1:08:30 sleeping, I put cement in his pants. He 1:08:35 woke up with a building on him. This is 1:08:40 temple-like, right? 1:08:42 Because, uh, it shouldn't have been 1:08:44 like that, right? It should have been 1:08:46 handled with an embrace. Why? But at 1:08:47 that time, as a middle schooler, I was 1:08:49 emotional. 1:08:50 Yes. Yes. 1:08:51 No, no, I didn't embrace him. So 1:08:53 tonight, if I were to give advice, it's 1:08:55 already irrelevant because I once 1:08:57 failed to handle friends like that. 1:09:00 Friends like that. 1:09:01 Sometimes the advice given is because 1:09:03 of mistakes we have made ourselves. 1:09:04 Yes. 1:09:05 Yes. We give advice because we know we 1:09:08 were wrong before, like "Don't go that 1:09:11 way, why?""Oh, the dogs there are 1:09:13 fierce.""How do you know?""I've been 1:09:15 there," that's why we give advice. Well 1:09:16 , you're the one best at that. 1:09:18 Yes. Forget it. Alright, we move to the 1:09:22 next WhatsApp from 1:09:25 hungry hungry 1:09:26 Mrs. Sundari. Is it all done? Oh, it's 1:09:29 all done. Praise be to God. This is 1:09:31 from Mr. Bahroni. Uh, is it true that 1:09:34 Rasil finishes at 12:00 midnight? 1:09:37 Unless it's the fasting month, it's 1:09:39 fine because we also sleep. Does it 1:09:40 mean that when we sleep, other people 1:09:42 aren't sleeping? 1:09:43 Yes, 1:09:44 like that. Yes. Alright, Mr. Baron, 1:09:46 this is from Mr. Baron. From Mr. Baron 1:09:48 L Betawi in Petir Utama, Tangerang. A 1:09:51 regular listener to our broadcast, sir. 1:09:52 This one, Mr. Afgan. 1:09:54 Yes. Afgan is the same as this, same as 1:09:57 uh 1:09:58 Afgan sadis. 1:09:59 Too cruel, different 1:10:04 different. Okay, thank you to all our 1:10:06 brothers and sisters who have been 1:10:08 listening to us. Keman, any final 1:10:11 messages you'd like to convey? 1:10:13 Uh, I have a lot to learn from you, 1:10:15 Brother Isa. I'm the one who should 1:10:16 learn from Keman. 1:10:18 Isa, is there anything you want to say 1:10:19 at the end? Nothing. Alhamdulillah, I'm 1:10:21 the one who got a lesson today. 1:10:23 We haven't teased Ondi yet today. 1:10:25 Geez, Ondi has been coughing nonstop, 1:10:27 oh, coughing nonstop. Don't need to 1:10:29 come in 1:10:30 right here, so you can be seen a little 1:10:31 . Hey, 1:10:31 turn it on here first. 1:10:32 The light is already bright here. Just 1:10:34 a little bit. Throughout the broadcast, 1:10:36 there were two sounds coming from 1:10:38 Ondi's direction. First, coughing, 1:10:40 second, yawning. Ondi 1:10:44 and that "tut" sound earlier. Ondi "tut 1:10:46 ." Thanks, Andi, thanks also to Mr. 1:10:49 Fahri at the operator's desk. Thanks. 1:10:51 But he's been here since morning, it's 1:10:52 incredible. 1:10:53 Since morning, for many hours. 1:10:55 Masyaallah. 1:10:56 Masyaallah. 1:10:57 Look, there's a pillow, a bolster, and 1:10:58 a blanket there. 1:11:01 Oh, he's been here since morning 1:11:02 since morning. 1:11:03 From the morning. 1:11:04 Oh, so you already knew about that 1:11:05 thing this morning 1:11:07 what is it 1:11:07 that thing from this morning, the 1:11:08 merry-go-round yesterday. 1:11:10 Gosh, okay, we'll discuss it after this 1:11:12 . Thanks Keman, thanks Isa. Thanks to 1:11:14 all the brothers and sisters who have 1:11:16 uh participated in tonight's program. 1:11:17 We apologize if there was any incorrect 1:11:19 information, if there were words that 1:11:21 were wrong, if there were words that 1:11:23 offended you all, please forgive our 1:11:25 shortcomings. I am Muhammad Musalkaf, 1:11:28 I am Isa Alkaf, 1:11:29 I am Firman. 1:11:30 We take our leave. Glory be to You O 1:11:32 Allah and by Your praise, I bear 1:11:33 witness that there is no god but You, I 1:11:34 seek Your forgiveness. With God's grace 1:11:36 and guidance. Peace be upon you and 1:11:37 God's mercy and blessings.