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0:52 Brail Ahlan Bismillahirrahmanirrahim. 1:31 Peace be upon you warahmatullahi 1:32 wabarakatuh. And 1:33 may peace be upon you. 1:34 Allahumma sholli ala sayyidina Muhammad 1:36 wa ala ali sayyidina Muhammad. 1:38 Alhamdulillah we meet again today on 1:42 Tuesday, 26th Jumadil Awal 1444 Hijriah 1:46 or December 20, 2022. As usual Rasil 1:50 returns to present the Ahlan Wasalan 1:53 program and today we present a man who 1:57 was born on July 17th, 9th year in 2:01 Bukit 2:02 Oh, 7th year in Bukittinggi. Ee, his 2:07 elementary school was in 8 schools. 2:10 Imagine his elementary school and 2:11 school. Once in Bukittinggi, once in 2:13 Solok, once in Pekanbaru. Then his 2:16 junior high school was in two schools 2:18 in Bukittinggi, then in Riau. Then his 2:21 high school was in two schools, also in 2:24 SMA 23, then SMA 25 then entered Akabri 2:28 Magelang. He is the general chairman of 2:31 the Bumiputra Nusantara friendship 2:34 forum. He is also the chairman of the 2:38 Jakarta PSBN, namely the Friendship 2:41 Forum ee Jade Tabek Army Retired Forum. 2:46 Of course you already know his name. He 2:49 is Retired Major General Muhammad Fuad 2:53 Basha. Assalamualaikum, Mr. Fuad. 2:55 Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi 2:57 wabarakatuh. Wahfuat, you could say, 3:01 was the former head of what is called 3:05 the TNI information center. Well, after 3:09 leaving his position as 3:10 head of the TNI information center. 3:11 Uh, this extraordinary head of the TNI 3:14 information center, Sir, excuse me, is 3:16 there a power syndrome after leaving 3:19 his position? 3:21 In fact, I am even more active, even 3:24 more active. So, in my opinion, 3:26 post-rom people enjoy their positions 3:28 too much 3:30 that they forget that one day we will 3:31 leave them. But when we are in office, 3:35 we do 3:36 not enjoy it for personal needs, right? 3:39 But when we are in office, we need to 3:41 enjoy it for personal needs, so at that 3:43 time, I think phosphorus syndrome will 3:45 occur. 3:46 But if we feel that 3:48 oh we got a position that my position 3:49 is not for me but for everyone, right? 3:52 But that there are people who have 3:53 power syndrome, you see that. 3:54 Oh, there are many, many. 3:56 What are the symptoms that are common 3:57 if you have power syndrome? 3:58 Yes, obviously, like to get angry. 4:02 After that, try here and there, apply 4:03 here and there, apply here. When the 4:05 car door is opened. The door is not 4:06 opened, right? 4:07 He, 4:08 yes, that's among them. But there may 4:10 be others, I also experienced 4:12 psychology. 4:14 Okay. Uh, sir, have you dreamed of 4:16 becoming a soldier since childhood? 4:18 Since childhood, you dreamed of 4:19 becoming a soldier. Yes, I am also 4:21 surprised, I have wanted to be a 4:23 soldier since elementary school. 4:25 What do you see in a brave soldier? I 4:27 don't know, yes, 4:27 my father happened to be a soldier, 4:29 even though he was a titular soldier, 4:31 yes, he was a spiritual enthusiast, but 4:34 I saw something special in the soldier, 4:36 so since childhood I wanted to be a 4:38 soldier, 4:38 so when I was in 4th grade, my older 4:41 brother said, "Do you want to join the 4:43 army?""Yes, I want to join the Akabah." 4:45 I said, "I want to join the Akabri." I 4:46 don't know what the end is. I know that 4:47 . Then, after you enter this, where 4:50 will you go after junior high school? I 4:52 said, enter STM. 4:54 Well, back then, we were famous for STM 4:55 . Well, those young people were like 4:58 that, right? Entering STM 5:00 entered SM. My older brother said, "If 5:02 you enter STM, it's hard to get into 5:04 Akabri." He said that if you want to 5:05 enter Akabri, you have to go to SMA, he 5:06 said. Well, starting in 3rd grade of 5:07 elementary school, I changed that. Oh, 5:09 so my goal after this, I go to SMP or 5:11 then go to SMA, 5:13 I wanted to go to ST STM, because in 5:15 the 1900s, STM was the most prestigious 5:17 school. 5:18 Yeah. Now there are no ST-STMs anymore. 5:20 Well, my older brother said something 5:21 like that. Finally, I entered SMP. 5:23 After SMP, I entered SMA, and then 5:26 Kabri. Even though there was 5:28 encouragement from my older brother, I 5:29 wasn't allowed to enter Akabri. That's 5:31 how it is. 5:31 H. My father said that at that time, 5:33 his achievements were good, but it was 5:35 quite difficult there because there 5:37 were no sponsors. Then he even sent a 5:39 letter to Pak Harto. That's right. It 5:42 could be, sir. So that's history, right 5:45 ? That's history, right? 5:47 Ee, because maybe since childhood, 5:49 everyone's dream was to become a 5:50 soldier, then a soldier, and when I was 5:52 in high school, where would Kabri go? I 5:54 even had this dream. If I didn't pass 5:56 the Kabri test, I would take the 5:58 tamtama test. 5:58 To that point, I thought at that time I 6:00 would take the tamtama test. After 2 6:01 years of tamtama, I would take the 6:02 Akabri test again. To that point, like 6:04 that. So, during the Akabri test, I 6:07 took all the tests. Then I saw that 6:11 there were names of people listed 6:13 separately, children of soldiers 6:15 separately. But my name wasn't listed 6:17 at that time. My 6:18 name wasn't listed. Then I asked, "Sir, 6:20 I'm also a child of a soldier. Why 6:22 isn't my name listed here?" You know. 6:25 But oh yeah, we'll add them later, but 6:26 they're not included either. 6:28 So I thought, oh, maybe these are 6:29 children of soldiers 6:31 who were entrusted by their parents. So 6:33 , I thought, what would my parents want 6:34 to entrust to me for the rank of lenan 6:36 du pensioner, the titular year 4 6:38 pension? 6:38 Yes, titular. Oh, I was still in grade 6:40 2 of elementary school, he had retired. 6:42 Wow, who is this supposed to be 6:43 entrusted to me? So I tried to find a 6:46 way, several ways, including to Pak 6:48 Burhani Cokrohandoko at that time. 6:51 He was the Director General of Hajj at 6:53 that time, my father's commander, whom 6:54 my father had told me about, his 6:56 greatness, you know. 6:57 I went to him. 6:59 I came to ask for sponsorship from him. 7:01 But his answer was just like this. Wow, 7:04 it's good that you entered AKBI. 7:05 H, 7:06 your name will be on the list there, 7:08 write down your father, Tuanku 7:10 Muhammad Ghazali Datuk Basa. You will 7:12 definitely be accepted, he said. Oh 7:13 dear. I said, "Sir, I need the letter, 7:15 sir. No need for letters." He said. No 7:17 need for letters. Wow, I was 7:18 half-hearted, eh, on one hand I was 7:21 proud, but on the other hand, what I 7:24 really need is this sponsor. 7:28 So, then, okay, I'll go ahead with it. 7:31 I'm one of those people who has always 7:32 wanted this, indeed, Pak ee Krisna, huh 7:34 . 7:34 Heh. 7:35 When I struggle, I don't want to do 7:37 things half-heartedly. 7:38 I always try to do everything as best 7:40 as I can. Because even after I've 7:41 pursued it as best as I can, it just 7:42 doesn't work out, that's my destiny. I 7:44 can't just give up on fate. Wow, if I 7:46 don't have anything, I can't do it. So 7:48 at that time, I had a friend, I still 7:51 have now, named Desmon Pengaribuan. He 7:54 lived at the State Printing House in 7:56 Bekasi, where I lived with him. So, I 7:58 wrote a letter to Pak Harto at that 8:00 time. I wrote a letter to Pak Harto, 8:03 the contents of which I simply said, " 8:05 Your Excellency, my father, at that 8:07 time, he hadn't gone on the Hajj yet, 8:10 hadn't gone on the Hajj yet. Your 8:12 Excellency, my father, General Retired 8:14 Soeharto, President of the Republic of 8:17 Indonesia." So, I introduced myself, 8:19 who I was, and who my parents were. 8:22 Then I aspired to enter the Indonesian 8:23 Military Academy (Akabri). I said that. 8:26 But I heard that to enter the 8:27 Indonesian Military Academy, you have 8:29 to have a sponsor. I said, "Well, I 8:31 don't have a sponsor. 8:33 My father's sponsor is just a retired 8:35 LAN 2 Tuler." That's what I said. So, 8:37 please let me know, Mr. President, if I 8:40 don't pass the Akabri because of my 8:43 inability, then I will wholeheartedly 8:47 accept it. But if I'm not accepted into 8:50 the Akabri because I don't have a 8:52 sponsor, as I said in the youth 8:54 language at that time, then I will be 8:56 curious for the rest of my life. I said 8:59 that. Well, maybe this language is a 9:02 special note from Intel, maybe that's 9:05 it. 9:06 Hmm. 9:07 So I sent a special express mail, in 9:09 our era, the tops were special express 9:11 mail, sir. He. 9:14 The envelope was blue, it was special 9:15 express mail. I wrote it and 9:17 sent it to a post box on the side of 9:18 the road. It 9:19 went into a post box at the state 9:20 printing company. 9:21 Oh yes, 9:21 at the state printing company. But the 9:23 side of the road is a post town at the 9:24 state printing company, it goes there. 9:26 So I took the test and it turned out I 9:30 passed. So I think about my passing, 9:32 there are two possibilities. Was it 9:34 because Pak Harto read it and then Pak 9:36 Harto, I pity him and helped me, 9:38 or maybe it was because I met the 9:41 requirements. I met the requirements, 9:43 so I got in. When I entered, I followed 9:47 the normal 3 months of not being 9:49 allowed to see my parents, no phone 9:51 calls, no letters, nothing. After that, 9:54 after 3 months, our base was ready for 9:55 the inauguration. My 9:57 parents had to come for the 9:58 inauguration. 9:58 So, my father and my older brother came 10:00 at that time because my mother was in 10:02 Bukittinggi. 10:03 My older brother was the one who sent 10:05 me to high school. Because of this 10:07 little thing, Mr. Krisna, I happened to 10:10 be schooled by my father from 1st to 10:11 3rd grade. Hm. 10:13 Then from 4th to 6th grade, I was 10:15 schooled by my older brother, number 10:17 one. 10:17 Oh, I see. 10:18 Yes. Then junior high school was 10:20 preferred by my second older brother. 10:24 High school was schooled by my older 10:25 brother number one, well, my older 10:27 brother number one wanted me to be 10:29 either a doctor or an engineer. In our 10:31 time, the top ones were doctors and 10:33 engineers. If a school didn't have a 10:34 certificate of completion, it was 10:36 considered nothing, this was a fake 10:37 school, right? Whereas now, law 10:39 students and economic students are top. 10:43 So, what happened was that when I 10:44 graduated, I was surprised that my 10:46 skinny sister came, that's my older 10:48 sister, my sister. He. 10:50 Then I asked her why she was a bit 10:53 stressed at home. 10:56 Because after I left, my sister's place 10:58 was visited, there were tekup, there 11:01 were also the sub-district, there were 11:04 RW, and RT RW. 11:06 Well, the message at that time was that 11:08 something was going on, her house was 11:10 being secured, right? He. 11:11 Wow, I said it must be because of my 11:14 letter, right? But maybe it's because 11:17 I'm not strange either. Because I'm not 11:19 strange, so there's no problem anymore. 11:20 But if I were strange, maybe, oh, this 11:22 has been like this before, they said, 11:23 right? 11:24 But you were never assigned to the 11:26 forest, what? 11:27 Hey, I happened to be Mr. Krishna, who 11:30 graduated in 11:31 March of the year. The three of us were 11:35 the first to enter East Timor. 11:38 Hm. He. 11:39 So no one had entered the east, the 11:40 three of us, there was me, and another 11:42 one named 11:42 Mr. Prabowo. 11:43 Oh no, he was above me, he meant my 11:45 leing 11:46 leiting. 11:47 So I graduated in just 3 days to become 11:49 a unit. 11:50 So as soon as I entered the unit, I 11:51 immediately got a 11:52 3-day assignment to go to the teams. 11:54 But I was great at that time to the 11:56 teams. Hehe. 11:57 Yes, using Garuda, there were only 11:59 three of us, right? 12:03 Masyaallah. Sir, you were telling me 12:06 earlier that you were also a titular 12:08 soldier, right? 12:10 My father was a titular soldier. My 12:12 father was appointed because he was the 12:14 army imam. The 12:15 army imam was then appointed as a 12:18 titular soldier around 62-61 H 12:23 61-64 retired. 12:25 Oh I see. Well, what does Retired Major 12:28 General Muhammad Fuad Basam think about 12:31 the appointment of Dedi Gobuzer as a 12:34 titular colonel? What do you think? Oh, 12:36 let's call, let's go titular. So 12:38 actually, titular is indeed a rank 12:40 given to people who are needed at that 12:43 time to serve or something. 12:45 So, my father was because he was the 12:47 army imam, 12:48 then the city of Tambakar needed him at 12:49 that time, so he was titular at that 12:51 time, so he was active there, you know. 12:53 Well, it's actually the same from KBER 12:55 if he was appointed as a titular 12:57 soldier with a rank. Well, I underlined 12:59 it before. This titular rank has no 13:01 limits. 13:02 He. 13:03 So if needed at that time colonel, he 13:04 was colonel. When needed at that time 13:06 lena sat lena S but never promoted like 13:08 that, so it continues like that, right? 13:11 So 13:11 what is the task of titular, 13:13 according to its function, 13:14 according to its function. If my father 13:16 was an army imam 13:17 because my father happened to be a 13:22 civilian, but he was a militant person, 13:24 you know. One example of a militant is 13:26 like this. You may remember PRRI? Maybe 13:29 I was said to have been born into that. 13:32 At the time PR happened in my village, 13:35 it was a PRI area, almost 99%PRRI. 13:39 99%PR. 13:41 My father didn't want to join PRRI. 13:43 Heeh. 13:43 My father didn't want to 13:45 be with his nephew, his biological 13:47 nephew, he was one of the platoon 13:49 commanders in PRRI, to the point of 13:50 putting a revolver like this. 13:53 Uncle wants to kill me or I tell him to 13:55 kill uncle, he said. Because this is 13:57 our ideology, he said that. 13:59 Yes. Yes. 14:00 My father's answer was simply, "Why do 14:01 we have to kill each other?" He said. 14:03 Let's just go our separate ways. 14:05 You join the PRI, I don't join the peri 14:07 like 14:07 that. 14:08 Well, because of that, my parents were 14:10 then taken to the city. 14:12 Pulled to the city and then left in the 14:14 dormitory. They were secured at that 14:17 time, left in the dormitory. 14:18 Well, I saw at that time, wow, my 14:20 father was really great. I asked after 14:22 me, I asked, "Why didn't you join the 14:24 PRRI?" Even though at that time, almost 14:27 every village word for PRRI was PRRI. 14:29 My father just said this, winning 14:31 independence is difficult. 14:32 Achieving independence is difficult. 14:34 Now that we are independent, then we 14:36 will fight again to win independence, 14:39 especially 14:40 that, my father said. 14:41 So my father was stressed at that time 14:43 because I was still a student at that 14:45 time. This is the story of my mother 14:48 when America had entered Singapore, 14:51 sending weapons to us via Riau. Back 14:55 then, PR weapons were more modern than 14:57 TNI weapons. TNI didn't have bazookas 14:59 at that time. 14:59 Where were they supplied from? 15:00 America 15:01 through Singapore. 15:02 Well, my father was sick at that time, 15:04 he said, he was hospitalized because of 15:05 the stress of thinking about that. 15:07 We're going to be colonized again, you 15:08 know. 15:09 Well, starting from your story earlier, 15:12 how is our generation doing now? It 15:14 seems 15:16 like it's divided. What's happening in 15:18 our country right now, sir? Uh, so if 15:21 we look at this division, it's not 15:23 something that happened instantly. No. 15:26 In my opinion, yes, this is what I 15:28 think, Mr. Krisna asked, my opinion. If 15:30 you ask according to the literature, 15:32 read the book first, okay? Because 15:34 you're asking in my opinion, 15:36 so in my opinion, these events are not 15:38 something that happened instantly. No. 15:41 And this is indeed a global agenda 15:43 and not only for Indonesia, but 15:45 for countries, especially countries 15:47 that have good resources. Yes. 15:50 Indonesia is one of the good ones, 15:51 right? 15:51 Oh, Indonesia has everything. 15:53 If we look at other countries, maybe 15:54 only certain natural resources are good 15:56 . In Indonesia, 15:57 almost everything is here, right? 15:59 How can Indonesia not say that it is 16:01 located 16:03 at the four cardinal points. Whether 16:05 we go north, south, west, or east, it's 16:07 the source of everything. 16:09 H, 16:09 right, sir. 16:10 Then we are a vast country. He. A 16:13 very vast country. If we pull, I'll try 16:16 to pull it from Aceh to the north there 16:18 . Wow, that's crazy, China also entered 16:21 , from China, part of China entered, we 16:23 pulled it again to the east, pulled 16:25 north, Japan passed through like that. 16:27 That means our country is very vast. 16:29 So in terms of geography, we are very 16:32 vast. Located at the crossroads of the 16:36 world that connects all continents. 16:38 He. 16:39 Well, then our country has a large 16:42 population. 16:43 Hm. A large population. The second 16:46 longest beach in the world. Imagine, 16:48 even though we might still import salt, 16:50 you know. But the second longest beach 16:52 in the world. 16:54 I was also surprised that we imported 16:56 salt from Pakistan. I was surprised, 16:58 you know, Pakistan only has that much 17:00 coast, but 17:01 how come it exports salt to Indonesia? 17:03 Okay. That's beyond that. 17:05 Then the population is so large and the 17:08 natural resources are unlimited. People 17:13 in Arab countries, of course, only have 17:15 oil, right? 17:17 We have oil. 17:18 We have everything. If we want oil, 17:21 metal, gold, iron, even uranium, we 17:25 have it 17:26 all. 17:27 He. 17:28 Then the population is large. 17:30 H. 17:30 So, in my opinion, this foreign agenda, 17:32 several times, every time I convey the 17:34 situation of young people, I always 17:35 convey the foreign agenda, that 17:37 Indonesia cannot progress. The quality 17:40 of the Indonesian population must be 17:43 lowered. It must be low because if it 17:46 progresses, this country is dangerous 17:48 because what? 17:49 Smart people, unlimited natural 17:53 resources, and a very 17:56 large population. Wow, this becomes 17:58 this country's superpower. This 17:59 superpower is not desired by 18:02 foreign countries. So they want 18:04 Indonesia to be weak. 18:05 So, how to weaken Indonesia? They will 18:08 enter from various sectors to divide 18:11 various sectors. Among them, in the 18:14 field of education they enter. 18:16 Hm. 18:19 Frankly, sometimes we lose, like people 18:21 lose our identity. 18:22 Yes. The 18:23 curriculum changes all the time, 18:25 we change it every time, and then our 18:27 identity when we change it. Even in the 18:29 army, we also have changes like that. 18:31 For example, in the past, 18:33 military ceremonies were like this. Oh, 18:35 now they have changed it to this. Oh, 18:36 in the past, the basic media 18:37 regulations were like this, now they 18:38 have changed it like this. 18:40 That can't be changed, how is that 18:42 basic, right? Well, they're 18:44 entering us slowly, from various angles 18:47 , they're entering 18:49 our country, 18:51 but we don't see how they're entering. 18:53 Yes. 18:53 First, perhaps through investment, then 18:56 through cooperation with this. Actually 18:59 , we're not against investment, not 19:00 against cooperation. All of that is 19:02 necessary. 19:03 Because God created this world not just 19:05 for us, but for all humanity 19:07 and from various groups, right? 19:10 Everything was created that way. 19:11 But because our country is a country 19:13 that 19:14 I think is very special because it is 19:16 so rich, 19:17 so 19:18 they try to figure out how this country 19:20 should be, some of which must choose us 19:22 , 19:22 right? To have this Indonesia. If 19:27 invited to war, they might think, "This 19:29 country went to war before, they didn't 19:31 have anything, they still used 19:32 sharpened bamboo, they could defeat the 19:34 allies, they said, right? This person 19:36 is reckless, right?" Well, the easiest 19:38 thing is to be divided, the 19:40 easiest thing is to be 19:41 divided. 19:42 Divided. Divided between religions. 19:45 Internal religious conflict. Divided 19:46 between tribes. And that has happened. 19:49 It's true that we 19:49 can't raise awareness that we're being 19:52 divided. Impenetrable-a conscious 19:54 person actually knows that there are no 19:56 educated people, no one knows, in this 19:59 situation, no one knows, it's just a 20:01 subtle problem, right? 20:03 There are people who enjoy life, you 20:05 know, enjoying life, then they just 20:06 pretend not to know. "Well, if it 20:08 changes, I might not get it," they say. 20:10 This is returning to identity, like 20:12 that, our identity as a nation. Well, 20:14 this is not allowed for the younger 20:15 generation. This must be reminded 20:16 properly because 20:18 our current generation has started to 20:20 get a bit cornered, 20:21 our younger generation in the future, 20:22 if they are not aware, they will have a 20:24 much more difficult time. 20:25 He. 20:26 And they might end up becoming coolies. 20:28 He becomes his. 20:30 So what should the younger generation 20:32 be equipped with so that they are not 20:33 easily divided, sir? 20:34 Yes. The first one is like this, right? 20:37 ee Allah created humans, I did not 20:40 create humans, jinn, and humans except 20:43 to worship me, to worship me. So, 20:47 so the word worship, the word worship 20:49 should not be mistaken, should not be 20:50 narrowly interpreted that oh if worship 20:52 means praying, you have to pray. No, 20:54 not only that. 20:56 Socializing well with others, building 20:58 the nation, maintaining unity, helping 21:00 the weak, all of that is worship, you 21:03 know. People sometimes when we talk 21:05 about worship, oh this is prayer, this 21:07 is fasting, zakat, right, that's not 21:09 all. So the worship that Allah means is 21:12 like that in general, all of me created 21:14 the jinn and humans except for nothing 21:16 except to worship me. Worship in the 21:18 sense of Allah making the rules, right? 21:21 The rules sent down this religion, the 21:23 rules, right? Send down the books, the 21:25 Qur'an, 21:26 send down the Gospel, the book, the 21:28 Psalms, follow all of that, try to be 21:30 safe, that's it, worship is actually 21:32 like that, including from the army, 21:34 also worship, 21:35 Mr. Krishna, now talking about worship 21:36 also conveying something, right? To 21:38 cover the good, right? So 21:41 this is for the younger generation, so 21:43 life is that humans were created the 21:45 same as the jinn were created to 21:47 worship, worship in a broad sense, not 21:50 in a narrow sense. 21:51 Well, 21:52 then what 21:54 eh, continue, sir, continue again. 21:56 Okay, Iwan and Hannoat, we're still 22:00 chatting with Retired Major General 22:03 Fuad Basyah. He used to be the Head of 22:06 the Indonesian National Armed Forces 22:08 Information Center. You may ask 22:10 questions. We'll wait for you if you 22:12 want to. You can also call. Please, the 22:15 theme is a message for the younger 22:18 generation. Uh, now he is the chairman 22:23 of the Bumi Putra Nusantara friendship 22:26 forum. Then he is also the chairman for 22:30 Jakarta PSBN, uh, PPAD, the 22:32 Jade Tabek Army Retired Association. 22:36 Okay, sir, someone asked if I could 22:39 give you your phone number? 22:40 Oh, go ahead. Please, please, uh, 22:43 write it down. Please write down the 22:45 phone number. His name is Retired Major 22:49 General Muhammad Fuad Basha. His phone 22:53 number is 0811. Okay. Then 90 7 907 23:02 like that. Is that right, sir? 23:04 Yes. 23:04 0811. Then ee the two numbers behind it 23:09 are the same 907 907 that is 23:14 0811907 907 Mr. Retired Major General 23:21 TNI Muhammad Fuad ee Basam Sir ee we 23:26 know ee gold producers are also in 23:31 Maluku. In Maluku, Sir? 23:34 Yes. Sir, you were also involved there 23:37 during the Maluku conflict in how to 23:40 unite them, how did that happen? 23:43 Yes. Alhamdulillah, Mr. Krishna, yes. 23:46 Oh, we'll take the call first. Hello. 23:47 Assalamualaikum. 23:49 Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi. 23:50 Who is this? Sorry. 23:52 Mr. Na. 23:54 Huh? Sir, Mr. Navi. 23:56 Yes, 23:56 please, Mr. Navi. 23:58 Ustaz wants to ask you a question, 23:59 Ustaz. It's 24:00 a bit loud. Eh, can you do it here, Sir 24:03 ee, can you do it 24:05 directly, Ustaz 24:06 Mr. Fuad Basah. 24:06 Assalamualaikum. Please. 24:08 Yes. It's related to the topic being 24:10 discussed, Ustaz. Earlier, there was a 24:13 Ustaz who connected the problem of ee 24:15 to the younger generation, Ustaz, yes. 24:18 Yes. 24:19 Please give your opinion, Ustaz. 24:20 Because ee for the conditions, 24:23 especially in Indonesia, there are 24:25 already many human resources, 24:28 especially the Gen Y who have graduated 24:30 , right? 24:33 Generally, they need jobs, either 24:36 independently with their skills or 24:40 through companies, especially 24:43 government companies, Ustaz, right? Uh, 24:48 in relation to the current regulatory 24:52 policy conditions issued by the 24:55 government, both in the private sector 24:59 and in the government, ee human 25:02 resources recruited to become employees 25:05 , ee, are ee able, ee meaning 25:08 protecting, ee making 25:11 children later ee able to live 25:14 comfortably by getting jobs? ee or with 25:19 the status, especially Ustaz, ee status 25:23 to these workers. Because I ee see it 25:28 is a bit of a dilemma, both in BUMN and 25:31 in the private sector, generally they 25:35 are statused as contract workers or 25:38 PKWT with a time limit. Whenever they 25:42 have an interest, they can 25:44 automatically dismiss them. But uh, I 25:50 also see the integrity of these young 25:53 people, the human resources of today, 25:57 their level of loyalty is according to 26:01 their wishes. They dare to quit 26:04 whenever they want if they don't fit in 26:08 with their company. Like that. Well, 26:12 this is especially for the younger 26:15 generation of Muslims, Ustaz. Uh, what 26:19 kind of mediation is it like, how is it 26:22 managed? Uh, maybe Mr. Ustaz has a view 26:26 that maybe not exactly Ustaz, yes, Mr. 26:29 Muhammad Fuat Basah. He is a retired 26:32 TNI (Indonesian National Army) yes. 26:34 Yes. 26:34 H. Please. Uh, the question has been 26:36 caught, yes, can you answer it please. 26:38 Okay, thank you. Please, Mr. Nafi, you 26:41 can listen to it on the radio. 26:42 Yes, because this is a general question 26:44 , yes, it is general and also more 26:45 about the institutional nature because 26:47 I was not there. But I will still 26:49 explain it like this, uh, because I am 26:52 a former soldier. So, from the military 26:55 , we work not to earn a living. 26:58 Hm. That's how it is. Working is not to 27:00 earn a living but to serve. But by 27:02 serving, we will get a life, right? 27:05 Well. 27:05 Oh I see. If all young people think 27:07 like that, they might think, "Wow, I'll 27:09 work here so I can get this salary and 27:11 then I'll do this, I'll do this, I'll 27:13 do this." Then they'll be disappointed, 27:15 they'll 27:16 be disappointed. But if we enter a 27:18 place to dedicate ourselves, whether 27:22 it's government, private sector, or 27:25 perhaps farming, perhaps with just one 27:28 intention: my dedication here. With 27:32 this dedication, they'll get something 27:34 that will satisfy them, so they'll 27:36 never be disappointed. Why are so many 27:38 of them not getting ahead? 27:40 They join a company and then work, "Wow 27:42 , why is this only my field, why is 27:44 this my job?" In the end, they work 27:46 half-heartedly. Because they work 27:47 half-heartedly, their conduct is poor. 27:49 Because their conduct is poor, they'll 27:51 never get promoted. 27:52 If they don't get promoted, they'll be 27:53 disappointed. "Oh, why am I like this?" 27:55 They see people who get promoted and 27:56 they'll be jealous. "Wow, why is that 27:57 like this, why is that like that?" Well 27:59 , we pay attention to productivity, do 28:01 it, show me how to work. So, we work 28:04 for devotion first. H 28:06 anywhere, 28:09 including in the private sector, like 28:11 working personally at home, maybe 28:13 farming, also devotion. Devotion, you 28:15 know. 28:15 Total, right? If we have devotion, then 28:17 we will never be disappointed. We want 28:19 to get a lot, so improve your 28:21 performance. 28:22 I plant this today, I plant 20 trees, 28:24 tomorrow I have to plant 40 trees, 28:26 right? It will be automatic. It's the 28:28 same with work. 28:29 And I experienced that by chance, right 28:30 ? I experienced that by chance, 28:32 uh, maybe a little more illustration. 28:35 In the army, there are corps. 28:37 Yes. 28:38 There are infantry corps, there are 28:39 cavalry, there are artillery, there are 28:41 equipment like I do mechanical 28:42 equipment engineering. I 28:43 have civil engineering called art, 28:45 there is electrical engineering called 28:47 transportation, there is administration 28:48 , and so 28:49 on. 28:50 People say that this priority must be 28:52 combatants, right? Must be combatants. 28:55 Uh, I prove it, I say that's not true. 28:58 The priority depends on us, you know. 29:01 Who are we who want that? Well, I 29:03 proved it myself. I said this. Maybe if 29:06 I say this, people will say, "Wow, this 29:09 is Fuad, but I'm not showing off." 29:12 Hm. 29:13 Because I always work with the 29:14 principle mentioned earlier. That what 29:16 I do is my devotion there, so I never 29:19 work half-heartedly. I work quite 29:22 optimally. Well, one way to prove that, 29:25 it's okay if I tell you a little bit, 29:27 okay? I'll 29:28 go ahead. 29:29 One time I was called by the Head of 29:30 the Unit. 29:30 Yes. 29:31 The Head of the Unit, General Joko 29:32 Santoso. 29:32 Yes. Because I was very close to him 29:35 when we were carrying out our duties in 29:37 Ambon and even when we arrived in 29:39 Jakarta. He took me with him because of 29:41 his principle when I finished in Ambon, 29:43 he said, "Wherever I go, you come with 29:45 me." 29:45 Hm. 29:46 So, it's true that a week after he 29:48 moved to Jakarta, I pulled him to 29:49 Jakarta. Right. He moved to the Great 29:51 Mosque, and I pulled him to the Mes 29:52 because of his total devotion, how? 29:54 So, we shouldn't be the ones asking, " 29:55 Sir, don't take me like that. Our 29:57 performance makes people take us, right 29:59 ?" Heh. 30:00 Well, this is proof that one day it 30:02 will be his turn, in fact, he can 30:04 become my commander. 30:06 Yes. 30:06 He called me. 30:08 H. 30:08 He called me. 30:09 I. He's 30:10 already deceased. 30:12 He called me. AT, you became PTI first. 30:15 He. 30:16 But just on the sidelines. 30:17 He. 30:18 So as not to cause a fuss. 30:19 Heeh. 30:19 That's it. I wanted to be made the 30:21 chairman of the cooperative at that 30:22 time, Inkopat. The parent cooperative 30:24 of the Army. Later, when you're already 30:26 in the position, you'll go back in, 30:27 right? In general, when people call me 30:32 like apal, they call Kasat, they say, " 30:35 Oh, ready. Thank you, sir. Thank you, 30:36 sir. Kiss his hand if necessary, right? 30:38 " Yes. I'm one of those people who has 30:40 never kissed my commander's hand. I 30:41 didn't want to be taught that because 30:44 of our performance. L, 30:46 so he said that. I just said, "Thank 30:48 you for your trust in giving me a place 30:52 , rank, and position. 30:55 But if I may make a suggestion," I said 30:56 . My corp is a technical equipment 30:59 person. He. 31:01 Then I didn't join the SESCO TNI. 31:03 Yes. At 31:04 that time, I wasn't in line with the 31:05 TNI. Sesco was already there, SESCO 31:06 Angkatan Darat was already there. But 31:08 the main requirement is something like 31:09 that. 31:09 I'm not a SESCO TNI. Then I'm not 31:12 diimakayasa, not the greatest person 31:14 who graduated from Akabri like that. 31:16 What do you mean? 31:17 I said this, "This Mr. Muldoko is still 31:19 around now but Mr. Muloko didn't hear 31:21 that because I was with him." I said 31:23 this, "Sir, when I was still called 31:25 Mudroko, we were both colonels, right, 31:28 Sir. Mudroko is Aimakayasa, Sir." 31:30 Huh. The 31:31 best graduate. He's an 31:32 infantryman and he's a SESCO TNI. 31:34 If he hadn't become a Pati, and I 31:36 became a Pati, you would have been 31:38 attacked. I said that. 31:40 Oh. Oh, he was shocked. 31:42 He was shocked. 31:44 Oh, that's you. Ready. Okay, then you 31:46 should get weak first, he said. Well, I 31:48 got weak, so I became Mudrokopati, I 31:50 got weak, right? That means what I said 31:53 in response to the previous one is that 31:55 every time we carry out a task, don't 31:57 think about the reward we will get, you 31:59 know. If I find a reward, I'm already 32:01 ready to give up first. I'll pay 32:03 attention to it first. 32:04 If I expect a reward, but I don't think 32:07 about the impact, you know. 32:09 So, my message to you earlier was, 32:11 please convey to the children that when 32:14 you enter any job, intend to serve 32:17 there. After we serve, then if we serve 32:20 , we will definitely work optimally. If 32:23 we work optimally, our performance will 32:25 automatically be great. If our 32:27 performance is great, then the leaders 32:29 above don't need to be asked. They will 32:31 definitely find a place like that. Find 32:33 a place. 32:36 Well, thank God I said that earlier. I 32:38 definitely won't be late, right? After 32:40 that, I was so weak, so weak, where 32:42 else before it was finished, I would 32:44 definitely come down, right? Waiting 32:46 for that, actually. Well, this is what 32:47 I meant. So, once again, I apologize, 32:49 it wasn't R's intention, but it gave 32:51 the impression 32:53 that work is service, duty is service. 32:56 Okay, back to my question earlier 32:58 regarding the conflict in Maluki, in 33:00 Maluku. What was your role there and 33:02 how did it finally 33:04 become peaceful there in Maluku? 33:06 Yes, so the story is like this, sir. 33:08 That's why I said, uh, everything must 33:10 be done sincerely, honestly, and 33:12 honestly. 33:14 If honesty results in something 33:17 negative, that's a risk. 33:19 But if you're not brave enough to take 33:21 risks, Mr. Joko Santoso taught me this. 33:24 If you're afraid of the risk tonight, 33:26 pray that you won't be breathing again 33:27 tomorrow morning. He said there's no 33:29 risk, right? Mr. Jok said that. He said 33:33 the world is for the brave, right? The 33:35 world is for the brave. If you're 33:37 afraid of the risk, then pray tonight 33:39 that you won't be alive again tomorrow 33:41 morning. So there's no risk. Well, in 33:45 Ambon, that case started in 1999. I 33:47 wasn't there, 33:49 I was in Jakarta. But I always monitor 33:51 every military incident, whether 33:53 domestic or international. You asked me 33:55 about Yom Kippur, and I followed it. 33:57 Yes. I followed the Israeli war in 1973 33:59 , when I was still in junior high 34:00 school, and 34:01 I always followed it. Well, I followed 34:03 the events of 6 in 1999. 34:05 After I studied it, I followed 34:06 everything, I studied it, I analyzed it 34:08 , I concluded that this is the cause. I 34:10 don't need to mention it. 34:12 This is the cause and it must be 34:14 addressed in this way. 34:16 If it's not like this, then it will be 34:17 like this, it will be like this, that 34:19 was my analysis at that time. I was 34:21 still a colonel at that time in 34:22 Kopassus. I continued to follow that 34:25 analysis starting in 99. Oh God, it was 34:27 destined for me to go to Ambon as an 34:30 assistant there. 34:31 I was an assistant for a week, I was 34:33 there, Mr. Joko Santoso came in as 34:35 commander. H 34:36 a week. Well, we had known each other 34:39 before in Malang H 34:40 when I was assigned to LAN 2. He was a 34:42 captain in Malang at Kostrat, we used 34:44 to 34:44 know each other. Then he had 34:45 discussions, so I conveyed it. Well, 34:48 one more thing, uh, my habit is that I 34:51 never think about who is in front of me 34:54 , whoever's leader. If I have to convey 34:57 something, I will definitely convey it. 34:58 Yes. 34:59 Is it good or not? Because my principle 35:01 is this, we have always been taught 35:03 from the cadets, I hold that as 35:05 subordinates, our obligation as staff 35:07 is to convey something that must be 35:09 conveyed. 35:10 If what was conveyed was anger, one of 35:12 the duties of the leader is to be angry 35:14 . Of his many duties, one of them is 35:17 anger. Yes, just read that, you know. 35:19 Well, I'm used to it. I'm used to it, I 35:21 say everything. 35:22 Well, including to Mr. Joko Santoso at 35:24 that time. 35:25 What do you think about the resolution 35:27 of Ambon? Why did all three commanders 35:29 fall? He. 35:30 I was sacrificed, according to him at 35:32 that time. 35:33 Why was it sacrificed, sir? Yes, the 35:34 first commander fell, the second 35:36 commander fell. 35:37 By fall, I mean, 35:39 after that, they were removed, then 35:40 removed, then removed. The third five 35:42 were removed, he was the fourth 35:43 commander 35:44 in Ambon at that time. Well, I said 35:46 that in my opinion, they weren't 35:47 sacrificed, sir. I said that. I think 35:49 you are considered the right person to 35:51 resolve this. 35:53 So, how come this is like this? Well, I 35:54 told him the things that I think I 35:56 should convey, it's not good if I 35:58 convey them here, it concerns the 36:00 community, right? There are two 36:01 communities, right? 36:02 Okay. Okay. 36:03 I suggest, sir, I suggest this, you 36:05 know, you've only been in office for a 36:07 week. He. 36:08 I've been here for a week, sir. 36:09 But since 1999, I've been following 36:11 Ambon. 36:12 Hmm. 36:12 So, for the past four years, I've been 36:14 following Ambon like this, like this. 36:15 And I think the solution should be like 36:17 this. Okay, then you help me like this. 36:21 Okay, 36:21 help him. I'll try, sir. I go in here. 36:24 I go in here. The people who didn't 36:26 want to go in, didn't dare to go in. I 36:27 went in. Thank God, it was good. Well, 36:32 another person who helped at that time 36:35 was the Governor of Civil Emergency in 36:38 Ternate. The 36:40 late Mr. Sarund Dayang was also him. 36:42 Mr. Sarundayang was the last ambassador 36:45 to the Philippines. 36:47 H. The 36:47 Ambassador to the Philippines at that 36:48 time was the Secretary General of the 36:49 Minister of Home Affairs. Secretary 36:50 General of Home Affairs. Then he was 36:52 assigned as the Governor of Civil 36:53 Emergency in Ternate. We visited 36:56 Ternate. Then the three of us talked at 37:00 that time, Mr. Joko, me, and him. Then 37:03 he, he's a non-Muslim, right? 37:06 Yes. He said something that I think is 37:10 an honest person. This person is honest 37:13 and speaks honestly and dares to do 37:15 honest things. 37:16 I said that actually, sir, if you want 37:19 to resolve this, actually, if this is 37:22 how it's done, it's not finished. I 37:25 don't need to mention it again. This is 37:27 about the community. We were sleeping 37:30 before I went to bed, I said to Mr. 37:32 Joko at that time, "Sir, this is the 37:34 first time I've heard words from 37:36 someone from this community like this. 37:39 I've never heard words like this." And 37:42 that's it. That's it. So 37:45 what do you mean? If he finishes being 37:47 governor here, sir, the governor of 37:49 Ambon, who wants to replace Maluku, 37:51 is finished. 37:52 If he goes there, Maluku is finished. 37:54 Hm. 37:55 Oh, I see. Ready. Call Jakarta. 37:59 Yes. 38:00 Ask Mr. Sarundayang to imagine that 38:02 after being governor in a civil 38:04 emergency in Ternate, he steps down to 38:06 become governor in a civil emergency in 38:08 Maluku. Bring Pasarundayang to Maluku. 38:12 That's right. He enters Maluku, he 38:14 positions himself as if everything is 38:17 clear. 38:17 Hm. 38:18 Clear everything. So in Ambon, people 38:20 were there for 2-3 years. I was only 38:22 with him for 11 months. We went to 38:24 Jakarta. Kai is safe now, right? Thank 38:27 God, after that, everything was safe. 38:29 Okay, sir. We're answering this 38:32 listener's question from Abi Nizar. 38:35 Greetings, Mr. Fafu, welcome to Rasil 38:37 KT. You are always in good health. I 38:39 hope you are always in good health. 38:41 You said earlier that Indonesia is 38:43 being pitted against each other. Has 38:45 the TNI anticipated this or is it just 38:49 unaware of it? Thank you for your 38:51 answer. 38:52 Yes, 38:53 thank you for the question. I'm sure 38:54 the TNI PORI (Indonesian National Armed 38:56 Forces) must have anticipated this 38:58 because in the TNI there is an element 39:00 called the strategic intelligence 39:02 agency that always monitors 39:03 developments. In our old terms, never 39:06 mind incidents like that, but wherever 39:09 a needle falls, they know, right? But 39:12 maybe this ee works silently. It works 39:16 silently and I'm sure the TNI Polri 39:19 understands all of this. By 39:21 understanding this, they will also 39:23 learn how to deal with this. The 39:27 pattern for dealing with a problem is 39:28 not the same for every incident, there 39:30 are some that have to be direct, there 39:32 are some that have to be step by step, 39:34 there are some that have to be entered 39:36 little by little. Well, I'm sure the 39:38 TNI PORI definitely knows and I'm sure 39:41 the TNI PORI will also guard this, ee, 39:43 the situation is like this now. 39:47 Regarding being divided, I think 39:48 everyone has experienced it. I think 39:50 people see things every day that never 39:52 happened in our country before. 39:55 Fights between villages, fights between 39:57 these. 39:58 Okay. 39:58 There's even uh, mutual insults between 40:01 religions, which has never happened 40:03 before. So if you don't know, I think 40:05 you're just pretending not to know. 40:06 That's pretending not to know but 40:07 definitely knowing. 40:08 Okay. Okay, Mr. Fuad. We'll take the 40:10 call first. Hello. Peace be upon you. 40:13 Hello. Peace be upon you. Peace be upon 40:17 you. Yes, Iwan Daat. We're still with 40:20 Mr. Maizen TNI Fuat Basyah. He's the 40:24 former head of the TNI information 40:28 center. It's been cut off, folks. Yes, 40:31 it's a shame it's been cut off. Uh, 40:33 thank you, Mr. Fuad, for sharing your 40:36 story on Rasius. It's very useful for 40:39 maintaining unity. Hmm. Okay. From whom 40:46 ? From Mr. Subur. Peace be upon you, 40:48 Mr. Fuad. Long life, good health, and 40:52 always be blessed by God. Subhanallah, 40:54 for all of us, 40:54 no questions asked. Okay. No. Just 40:57 praying for the great Mr. Fuad. Okay. 41:00 Uh, peace be upon you, Mr. Fuat. uh, 41:05 seeing the current situation which is a 41:09 bit chaotic, how should we face it and 41:13 which side should we take, Mr. Fuad? 41:18 Okay, thank you. So, in line with our 41:21 title today, my message to the younger 41:24 generation is that we must increase 41:27 unity. As mentioned earlier, God did 41:30 not create jinn and humans except to 41:33 worship Him. Well, one form of worship 41:36 is maintaining unity. This unity was 41:38 pioneered by our ancestors. So, if I 41:41 could divide this generation, I would 41:43 divide it into three generations. The 41:45 first generation in our country were 41:46 the H fighters 41:47 in the context of independence 41:49 who did not expect anything, you know. 41:52 Those were the fighters, most of whom 41:54 have passed away. Then our generations 41:57 also fought, tried to maintain 41:59 independence and tried to help develop 42:02 this nation and country. 42:05 Was it successful or failed? I think 42:07 there may have been failures too. The 42:08 proof is that what we will inherit is 42:10 now in this condition. We are also 42:11 worried. Well, the third generation is 42:14 the generation that fought to raise 42:17 this nation, to prosper this nation, 42:19 and for the children of this nation to 42:22 enjoy the independence that was once 42:24 seized. Enjoying everything in our 42:27 country should be, you know. 42:30 Well, there is nothing we can do 42:33 without unity. Because the 1945 42:36 Constitution states unity, sovereignty, 42:38 justice, and prosperity. That's it. 42:40 Meaning, if you want justice and 42:42 prosperity, you must be sovereign. Well 42:44 , for a sovereign person to be united. 42:46 No one who is not united can be 42:48 sovereign. 42:48 Well, that's why unity is so necessary 42:51 now. Not just unity between people, but 42:53 between all the children of the nation. 42:55 Yes, like the healer on radio rasil, 42:58 for one Islam, 43:00 for Islam, whatever its sect, whatever 43:02 its sect, we are Islam guided by the 43:04 Qur'an and Hadith, right? And as fellow 43:07 human beings, despite our different 43:09 religions, we are God's people, right? 43:12 So, we must be united. 43:13 Okay. That's 43:14 my opinion. So, only unity can make us 43:17 great, only unity can answer this 43:21 challenge. 43:22 If we are divided, then this is what 43:25 those people hope for. Because with our 43:27 division, they will easily enter. They 43:29 will enter without blood. 43:31 Hm. 43:32 Any foreigner will enter Indonesia 43:34 without blood. But blood, yes, we are 43:36 the ones bleeding, right? We are pitted 43:38 against each other, then they help. 43:40 This is just an example of a picture 43:42 I'm looking at now. 43:44 Ee, this Pasir Island is crowded now, 43:46 right? 43:46 Wow, Pasir Island is crowded. Pasir 43:48 Island is 43:49 between us and Australia. 43:51 In my opinion, there is only one. Just 43:53 read the history of Pasir Island. He. 43:54 Is 43:55 Pasir Island a Dutch snack? Right? 43:57 He. 43:58 Oh. Being a Dutch snack means we have 44:00 it. 44:00 Because in the past, 44:02 everything in the Nusantara region was 44:03 Dutch snacks, Indonesia, right? Pasir 44:05 Island is a Dutch snack, isn't it? 44:07 Oh, Dutch snacks mean our country. 44:09 Oh, not Dutch snacks, right? Don't tell 44:11 me this is a bit of a joke, right? 44:13 That's the first one. 44:15 Secondly, I asked my friend at the 44:18 ministry, what's the story about Pasir 44:23 Island? 44:25 Is it ours? 44:28 He said it's not ours. In 44:31 00, there was an agreement, he said. Oh 44:33 , right. In 00, there was an agreement. 44:36 What was the content of the agreement? 44:37 That Indonesia made an agreement with 44:40 Australia on Pasir Island. This is 44:42 according to the story I got. Australia 44:44 and Indonesia made an agreement that 44:46 allowed Indonesian fishermen to seek a 44:49 living on Pasir Island, you know, in 44:51 order 44:52 to fish. Well, whether this is true or 44:55 not, please check there later. But 44:57 that's what I got news like. 44:59 Well, now it's being heated up, eh, 45:01 Australia says it owns it, then America 45:05 helps Australia, 45:06 right? 45:07 Wow, Indonesia doesn't need to worry. 45:09 China and Russia are killing Indonesia. 45:10 E, this is the beginning of this 45:12 division, in my opinion. This is back, 45:14 this is my personal opinion, I can 45:16 speak, right? In my opinion, this is 45:18 the beginning of our destruction if we 45:20 respond like that. 45:21 If America has stepped in to help 45:23 Australia, China and Russia have also 45:26 helped Indonesia, then Indonesia will 45:28 become a battleground between America 45:31 and the Russian and Chinese groups, 45:36 right? So, what happened after that? In 45:38 my opinion, after that, you just 45:40 divided it up, you go there, I go here, 45:42 you say. Well, that's what actually 45:44 happened in Arabia, right? This is 45:45 where 45:46 this comes in, this comes in, they're 45:48 pitted against each other, and then you 45:50 go there, I go here, you go. 45:52 Okay. This is probably how it is, in 45:53 my opinion. So, unity. 45:56 Welcome, Mr. Fuat, to Rasil. Mr. Fuat, 45:58 I want to ask why our TNI is less 46:01 aggressive with the rebels in Papua? 46:05 Well, in terms of the TNI's 46:07 aggressiveness, it's actually very 46:08 aggressive because I've experienced it 46:10 there, right? How we fight all sorts of 46:13 things is very aggressive. But we can't 46:15 be aggressive if we deviate from the 46:17 rules, right? 46:18 Well, our main problem in Papua, in my 46:21 opinion, is actually, eh, if I'm not 46:24 mistaken, around 2015, 2014, eh, 46:27 December 2014. On December 2, 2014, 46:30 Papua was made a civil order area, 46:34 right? 46:35 Civil order. If the area is civil, then 46:36 the military is not allowed to do 46:38 anything. 46:38 H, 46:39 then that's the police's authority. 46:40 Hehe. 46:41 So if anything happens there, it's just 46:44 mischief, just criminal activity. The 46:47 military can't get involved. That's the 46:49 police's responsibility. So 46:51 what's the military's job? It's 46:52 delegated to the police. So, if the 46:54 military is assigned to the police, 46:56 they're carrying out police duties, 46:57 which are already understaffed. That's 46:59 the same thing, 47:00 like when Eid al-Fitr is approaching. 47:01 They're assigned to the police to 47:03 secure Eid, not to wage war, right? 47:06 Well, that's the problem, in my opinion 47:07 . So, our real problem is the existing 47:11 law. So, in a situation like this, 47:14 Papua, if we look at it now, has raised 47:16 its flag at will, has insulted the 47:18 central government, and has declared 47:20 that we are an independent country and 47:22 Indonesia is our colonizer. I think 47:24 this must be resolved through the law, 47:26 it must be adjusted. 47:28 Just declare martial law, for example, 47:29 or civil emergency. Under civil 47:31 emergency, the military has control 47:33 over the area. That's possible. Well, 47:35 now the problem I think is that the 47:37 military can't be free there because it 47:39 wasn't an emergency area, 47:41 it was a civil order area. So the 47:44 military doesn't have the authority to 47:45 raid here and there, nothing like that. 47:47 Well, that's my opinion. 47:49 Okay. Okay. This is a question that's 47:52 been received a lot on YouTube. But 47:54 since we're under a time limit, um, 47:57 we'll read out his cellphone number 48:01 again, Mr. Retired Major General 48:04 Muhammad Puat Basyah. He was the former 48:08 head of information for the TNI 48:11 information center. Please write down 48:15 his number. 0811 then 907 907 0811 907 48:30 907. Okay, finally, what do you want to 48:34 say? We've been read in terms of 48:37 advice for the younger generation, 48:39 perhaps, or whatever. I'm giving a 48:40 message to the young generation. So, 48:42 the first thing is to realize that we 48:44 were born into this world to serve 48:47 Allah. Serving is not just praying, not 48:50 just fasting, not just giving zakat, no 48:52 . But all good deeds, all acts that 48:56 help others are devotion. Including us 49:00 in the framework of maintaining the 49:01 unity and integrity of the nation that 49:03 was born by our predecessors with the 49:07 sacrifice of their lives. Then we enjoy 49:09 this independence. Our obligation now 49:12 is to unite how we secure this Unitary 49:14 State of the Republic of Indonesia. 49:16 That's the first. Then second, ee we 49:21 all must realize that ee we must be 49:24 smart, must be smart. But intelligence 49:28 is not just intellectual intelligence, 49:30 but also 49:31 genial intelligence, moral, you know. 49:34 Because smart people alone are not 49:36 enough to build this nation, but people 49:39 must be smart and have good morals. In 49:42 the army, we used to be educated with 49:44 the words of Trisakti Wiratama. So 49:46 responsive, agile. Responsive means 49:49 intelligent brains. 49:50 If not intelligent, then be intelligent 49:52 , right? Then the personality of the 49:54 tanggon must be good, the heart must be 49:56 clean, devotion must be perfect. Then 49:57 agile means physical strength must be 49:59 good, right? Okay. If this physical is 50:01 a gift from God, what can we develop 50:03 now? Our own intellectual intelligence 50:06 and inner intelligence. If this is done 50:09 correctly, this nation will progress, 50:12 it will be good. Because without 50:14 intelligence, uh, mental intelligence, 50:16 without our personality intelligence, 50:19 this intellectual intelligence will 50:21 only lead us to personal needs. It will 50:24 lead us personally, "Wow, I got this, 50:26 so that's it." We don't think about 50:27 anything else. This impact, that impact 50:29 , we don't think about it. But as long 50:30 as I get this pleasure, then I don't 50:32 care about anything else. I just do 50:33 this, that's it. Well, back to what I 50:36 said earlier, devotion must be our 50:38 sincere devotion. Wherever we are, we 50:41 must serve. Not work, no, but serve, 50:43 that devotion. 50:46 Well, then thirdly, uh, the young 50:48 generation today must prepare 50:51 themselves that in the future the 50:54 challenges you will face are far 50:56 greater than what we are facing now. 50:59 And you are already starting to feel it 51:01 . But the future will be much more 51:03 difficult than that. If you don't 51:06 prepare yourself both intellectually 51:08 and mentally, don't be surprised if you 51:11 become a loser, you will become a 51:14 in your own country. But prepare 51:17 yourself, actually, knowing what 51:19 conditions will occur. Then think about 51:22 how to overcome and work hard. Work 51:25 hard without limits, okay? Because 51:27 people who work half-heartedly 51:29 shouldn't expect full results. Because, 51:32 you know, even if we work optimally, we 51:34 don't necessarily get optimal results, 51:36 right? Especially if we only work 51:38 half-heartedly. So, the younger 51:40 generation shouldn't work 51:41 half-heartedly. We have to work 51:43 optimally. Show yourself to the best of 51:46 your ability and let people judge you. 51:49 Don't ever ask for people to judge you. 51:51 Don't ever feel, "Wow, if I do this, 51:53 then that guy will do this." No. Just 51:55 do our job. That's it, sir. Yes. Do our 51:58 job well, optimally. People will see 52:00 for themselves. Wow, this person is 52:02 suitable here. This person is suitable 52:03 here. This person will be given this 52:04 opportunity, given this opportunity. 52:05 That's it. Okay. 52:06 This has been our weakness all along, 52:08 sir. We tend to seek personal closeness 52:12 so that I can be used, I have to be 52:13 close to this person, I have to be 52:14 close to this person, you know. Well, I 52:16 said earlier, Mr. Krishna, thank God, 52:19 I've never even kissed my commander's 52:23 hand like that. For me, this is 52:25 everything. 52:26 Masyaallah. 52:26 I respect him, for me, that's 52:28 everything. Lallah. Parents kiss hands. 52:30 That's how it is for me, sir. Mr. Kiai, 52:32 we kiss hands. But for my commander, 52:34 because when I kiss his hand, 52:35 there are people who kiss their hands. 52:36 There are people who kiss other 52:37 people's hands. 52:37 Wow, there are. When we kiss hands, in 52:40 my opinion, there are expectations, 52:42 right? Oh no. So we don't expect it, 52:45 but he is the one who expects it from 52:47 us, right? So, that has to be done like 52:49 that. Okay. Okay. 52:50 That's it, Mr. Krusna. 52:51 Masyaallah. Thank you, Mr. Maj. Gen. 52:54 TNI Purnamirawan ee Muhammad Fuad 52:56 Basyah for your advice, masyaallah for 53:00 your explanation. Thank you, hopefully 53:02 our broadcast is useful. You can come 53:05 again sometime when I'm ready. I also 53:08 apologize if there's anything I said 53:10 that was not pleasing and so on. 53:12 Because I have said it from the 53:14 beginning, Mr. Krisna. I said what I 53:16 should say, in my opinion, it is right. 53:18 The matter of being offended is the 53:19 matter of being offended. Heeh. 53:21 The matter of me saying it like that. 53:22 Then after that he got angry, I 53:23 accepted his anger, right, sir. 53:26 Warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. 53:27 Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi 53:28 wabarakatuh. If you have any questions, 53:30 just call 0811907907. I am Muhammad 53:36 Krishna and I also thank Mr. Munasin 53:38 Bakri for bringing me here. Thank you, 53:41 Mr. Munasin Bakri. I am Muhammad 53:43 Krishna Saputra and Anis. Please take 53:45 my leave. Wabillahi taufikalamualaikum 53:47 warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. 53:48 Waalaikumsalam. 
