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- In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious
- , the Most Merciful. All praise is due
- to Allah, Lord of the worlds. Peace and
- blessings be upon the Messenger of
- Allah, and upon his family, his
- companions, and those who follow him.
- Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy
- and blessings. Brothers and sisters who
- are blessed by Allah. We are very happy
- to meet you again in the program "
- Suhoor with Figures." Accompanying our
- brothers and sisters who are at home or
- perhaps already on their way,
- especially those at home who are
- currently preparing their suhoor meal,
- for the ladies, or those who are
- already having their suhoor. As usual,
- brothers and sisters, we will be
- chatting with a figure who, God willing
- , will provide inspiration for all of
- us in this holy month of Ramadan.
- Alright, brothers and sisters. Our
- guest, our figure for this occasion, is
- the Director of News at LKBN Antara, or
- the Antara News Agency. He is Mr. Aad
- Suryafaat. Peace be upon you, and
- Allah's mercy and blessings, Sir. And
- peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy
- and blessings.
- Good to see you, Sir. Yes,
- praise be to Allah. Praise be to Allah.
- First, we would like to say thank you
- for giving us your time for this visit,
- Sir. It's
- my pleasure. I am also grateful to be
- able to visit with you.
- Yes. Even though I heard you just got
- back from Lampung, right?
- Yes. We arrived from Lampung this dawn.
- Praise be to Allah, Sir. Yes. Right.
- Alright, Mr. Aad. We would like to get
- some inspiration from you, Mr. Aad.
- Perhaps just a light conversation, Mr.
- Aad. Yes.
- Perhaps we would like to know, and the
- viewers at home would like to know, who
- exactly is Mr. Aad? Could you tell us a
- little bit about your background before
- you became the Director of News at
- Antara, maybe where you are originally
- from, and your educational background?
- Please, Sir.
- Alright, thank you. I was born in
- Pandeglang, Banten, on December 20,
- 1963. One of six siblings. And I
- finished my elementary school, junior
- high school, and senior high school in
- Pandeglang. Then my university studies
- were at the tip of Java, in East Java.
- Oh.
- For my undergraduate degree, I took
- International Relations. I was accepted
- into the International Relations study
- program at Airlangga University,
- Surabaya.
- Unair.
- Unair, yes. Graduated from Unair. Then
- I immediately worked at Antara, and
- when I first worked at Antara, I had a
- chance to study, a kind of short course
- .
- In what year, Sir? Entering Antara,
- I started my education at Antara in
- 1990. 1988.
- 88.
- Yes, 88. Then 8...9 I was appointed,
- and not long after, I was assigned,
- initially to cover agricultural and
- forestry news. Then I covered the DPR (
- House of Representatives) for 2 years,
- and then, praise be to Allah, I also
- had the opportunity to cover the Palace
- during Mr. Harto's era, yes, Father Mr.
- Harto. Then
- after that, I had a chance to study in
- Canada. Right.
- During the short course, I was then
- placed in New York in the year 1993
- until 98.
- So, Antara had an office at the UN
- headquarters in Manhattan, New York.
- Specifically for Antara, yes.
- Yes. We had a room on the 3rd floor.
- So we were on the same floor as the UN
- Secretary-General. And I was stationed
- there for 5 years from '93 to '98. Now,
- then I returned to Jakarta and I didn't
- stay in editorial, but rotated around;
- I was once the coordinator for Antara's
- partnership with the British news
- agency, Reuters.
- Reuters.
- Uh-huh. Then I held a leadership
- position at an Antara subsidiary called
- IMQ. Then I was the head of the Antara
- bureau in Bandung. Then I was a staff
- expert, coordinator of staff experts at
- the Antara news agency.
- Now, finally, based on the Ministry of
- State-Owned Enterprises test results, I
- was fortunately selected as the
- Director of News at Antara. So the news
- commander at this one and only national
- news agency
- is currently being held by me, so to
- speak. Thank God.
- Yes. So continuing the legacy of
- predecessors who already had names like
- Mr. Parni Hadi.
- Yes.
- Furthermore, Antara was initially
- founded by the late Adam Malik. Mr.
- Adam Malik had been Vice President,
- previously served as Foreign Minister,
- and was President of the United Nations
- General Assembly in New York.
- Yes. Now, Mr. Ad, was journalism a
- choice back then, or how did that come
- about? Yes, that's a good question;
- ever since college, I've always wanted
- to write. Uh-huh.
- And when I was studying in Surabaya, I
- wrote for a local daily called Harian
- Memorandum. Uh-huh.
- And also at that time, it was called
- Surabaya Pos. So I was writing.
- Sometimes, even though I was studying
- in Surabaya, I would send articles to
- Pikiran Rakyat in Bandung, and they
- were published; there was a unique
- sense of satisfaction. It felt so good
- when our writing was published, read by
- people, and commented on, like that.
- Yeah. Uh-huh.
- Now, I am very interested in writing,
- Sir. I once read a quote from Imam
- Al-Ghazali, more or less like this: "If
- you are not the son of a king or a
- scholar, then write," he said. Uh-huh.
- Just how valuable is writing, Sir?
- According to you.
- Oh, it's extraordinary. That quote was
- correct, and I also have, what should I
- say? I read a lot of references from
- various figures. Now, what I find
- interesting is when Bung Karno was
- detained by the Dutch in Boven Digoel
- prison, Irian, at that time,
- he wrote a very phenomenal book called
- "Under the Banner of Revolution." Then,
- when Bung Hatta was detained by the
- Dutch in Sukamiskin Prison, Bandung,
- he wrote a book titled "Rowing Between
- Two Reefs," and that became the basis
- for the implementation of the free and
- active foreign policy that is still
- upheld today by the Indonesian Ministry
- of Foreign Affairs. And when they were
- asked by many people what their
- motivation for writing was, they said,
- the late founding fathers said that
- this nation must be better in the
- future. So, with these writings,
- hopefully, it brings inspiration for
- the young generation to fight to uphold
- independence, then also to maintain and
- fill that independence. Like that. So
- what they wrote became an inspiration
- for me too, that indeed when we write
- there is idealism,
- there is our desire, noble aspirations.
- Hopefully, this good intention can also
- be conveyed
- conveyed and then can be
- followed, hopefully, it also becomes an
- inspiration for the young generation,
- especially for students and university
- students. And thank God, my writing
- about this, I once wrote it, and among
- them, there were so many readers,
- viewers, then many comments, even
- quoted by several writing communities,
- my writing became a reference. So I
- have a sense of pride.
- So we are proud when our writing is
- read by people and then provides
- benefits to many people.
- In any case, God willing, hopefully, it
- is considered an act of worship.
- Yes. Amen. Amen. Yes. That's right, Sir
- . Now, regarding the current phenomenon
- , Mr. A, because technology is
- developing so rapidly, Sir. The world
- of writing, meaning everyone can write
- Uh-huh.
- In quotes, meaning now people can write
- on Facebook statuses, on Twitter,
- maybe on what, blogs. But
- they, many of them, their writing is
- just haphazard.
- Just writing without thinking about the
- effects of that writing.
- Yes. Yes. Yes.
- How, Sir, do you see the current
- phenomenon like that, Sir?
- Well, if we look at the current
- development trend, it is indeed
- extraordinary, yes.
- IT is developing so rapidly and it
- depends on the users.
- Whether they want to use it for good
- intentions or for what you call it,
- something less good or not good. The
- important line is, if in new media, in
- social media, whether Twitter or
- Facebook or others, the key is the same
- as also written in what, conventional
- writing media. The point is, first, do
- not discourage.
- Uh-huh.
- Second, do not pit people against each
- other. Third, do not offend other
- people's feelings. Then fourth, do not
- scapegoat. Fifth, do not incite. And
- sixth, last but not least, is do not
- write when we are angry.
- Because when we are angry and write on
- social media, it is a mirror of our
- personality. People will read it, you
- know, this person is like this.
- So it's like we are driving, the
- analogy. If we drive recklessly, then
- that is how our personality is. People
- will read it like that. So then we must
- be careful with what we write on social
- media. Because at that moment it has
- already become the world's property.
- So we must be careful. But for the
- writing limitations mentioned earlier,
- writing still follows standard features
- or special essays, if you will, there
- must be standard rules for it.
- Where to make it interesting, the
- writing should start with something
- attractive and end with something
- impressive. It means the writing is
- like a speech, starting with something
- interesting and ending with something
- impressive and memorable. Writing on
- social media is just a few words or
- very limited sentences, and it is just
- an expression for self-actualization,
- which is perfectly fine. But if we want
- our writing to be useful, meaning its
- benefits are felt by the public, then
- there are certain standards or rules
- that need to be followed, and that must
- be learned. There are techniques, there
- are guides that we can follow, like
- that.
- Right, back to the world of technology
- which is so rapid nowadays, there are
- many websites or news portals that
- could be said—borrowing your term—
- to be fake or unreliable.
- There are probably a lot of them now.
- And many people seem as if they don't
- care whether it's fake or not. So it
- gets shared, distributed, and
- copy-pasted. As long as it comes from
- the media, people don't know if it's
- fake or not.
- Yes. Yes.
- But it's being shared, so how about
- that, Sir?
- Well, that is...There is a basic
- principle that what becomes a headline
- in the media, including what is
- trending on social media, does not
- necessarily reflect what is actually
- happening in society. It is just an
- issue game, issue management. Therefore
- , every reader or viewer must be
- critical, must be critical of where the
- source comes from. In Islam, we must be
- careful if there is news from an
- immoral person, right? So we must be
- very careful. So, verify.
- Exactly, verify. So we must be careful
- when consuming media, including social
- media or new media. We shouldn't just
- believe it blindly. How can we filter
- it? Certainly, we must read a lot, read
- a lot from other valid references, ones
- that are truly trustworthy. So, we must
- read a lot, discuss a lot, and expand
- our networking so our perspective isn't
- narrow, not like wearing blinders.
- We have a broader perspective so that
- later we can say, "Oh, I am sure that
- information is incorrect." So our
- society
- should be more careful, perhaps.
- more careful. Especially the young
- Muslim generation, I hope they do not
- immediately believe what is in the
- media. Even not just fake media,
- mainstream media sometimes, because of
- the capital owners steering things,
- might also not be right for us, not in
- line with our ideals.
- Yes.
- Now, about that, Sir, I find it very
- interesting when mainstream media
- follows what the capital owners want.
- Yes,
- perhaps like now, for example, national
- TV stations, because maybe the owners
- are involved in politics. So,
- we can clearly see that happening.
- Sir, what is your take on that?
- Again, we have to be critical and
- balanced. If we know one media outlet
- is owned by a certain party, and
- another by a different party, then we
- must start from a neutral position.
- So we see it as, oh, we need to know
- this perspective and that perspective
- from the media. These are mirrors of
- the political interests of the capital
- owners of those TV stations. Therefore,
- it is perfectly fine, and we should
- actually know the views of each side.
- And in the end, we are the ones who
- decide what our stance is. So, once
- again, we must remain critical in the
- sense that we don't swallow everything
- they say whole, but we have
- self-censorship. Then we actualize it
- through discussions with colleagues,
- many communities, or on campus, for
- example, or anywhere, so that we have a
- stance on this issue.
- And we are expected to hold on to
- idealism, like that.
- Earlier it was said, Mr. AD, more or
- less already two 28 years, right, as a
- journalist? Maybe you could share a bit
- about the ups and downs, Sir. Perhaps
- the most memorable ones?
- Yes. Yes.
- During those 28 years,
- what were they, Sir?
- The most memorable thing was, of course
- , when I was chosen to be, what you
- call it, a journalist placed in New
- York, that was,
- in quotes, prestigious.
- I heard, Sir, that you were also an
- employee of the year.
- That is true. Thank God. That was upon
- my return from New York.
- Oh, I see.
- Upon returning from New York. So, at
- the time, I didn't expect it because
- there were many who were more senior.
- Yes.
- And many who were more proficient in
- English than I was.
- But why was I chosen? Well, that is one
- factor, not a coincidence, I am sure of
- it, there was
- God's guidance in it. Because
- everywhere in this world, nothing is a
- coincidence. If the intention is good,
- it must be God's guidance. So, I am
- very convinced of that, and I also
- demonstrated hard work and maintained
- good relationships. Many people in any
- institution are only good at their
- desks, but communication with partners,
- with leaders, and with subordinates,
- building relationships,
- that connection is what is most
- important. That is the key to our
- progress. Because capital today is not
- just about money.
- or capital, but it is about building
- relationships
- and our ideas. We may have good
- relationships but never present new
- ideas. That is also not good. So, in
- universities now, there is what is
- called soft skills. Yeah.
- It is how we communicate with others,
- how we dress, how we make phone calls,
- even things like that. How to look at
- people; those soft skills are now being
- studied in certain universities as
- preparation for students before they
- graduate. Because recent research
- suggests that a person's career is
- ultimately determined by soft skills,
- their ability beyond the theoretical
- aspects.
- Socializing from that perspective, yes.
- So, the most memorable thing when it
- was determined, there was another.
- The second one, why? Because when I was
- in New York, at the center of world
- power, at the UN headquarters in New
- York, I met many people, many important
- figures.
- Besides the UN Secretary-General, I met
- Boutros Boutros-Ghali,
- then Kofi Annan.
- Just imagine, even an ambassador finds
- it difficult to enter the UN
- Secretary-General's office, but as a
- journalist, I was invited to his office
- .
- Right? It was extraordinary to be able
- to have a direct dialogue with him. Two
- UN Secretaries-General, yes, with Kofi
- Annan.
- Me. Yes, that’s right, Kofi Annan and
- what’s his name, who was it? Boutros
- Boutros-Ghali, I experienced two UN
- Secretaries-General.
- And that is a source of pride,
- a source of pride where even diplomats
- whose job it is couldn't enter the
- secretary-general's room, but as a
- journalist, I could enter. Thank God.
- And there were two Indonesian
- journalists who could enter there who
- were stationed in New York at that time
- . Myself and my colleague named Mr.
- Muhlis Hasim from Media Indonesia. Like
- that. Now, the second one, of course,
- with being stationed in New York, I met
- many, besides the UN Secretary-General
- as I said, also important figures in
- America.
- I could meet the American president,
- meet many presidents who attended the
- general assembly, I could talk to them.
- So,
- what I studied back in college, thank
- God, it turned out to be a reality.
- Because when I first became a
- journalist, I had refused an assignment
- . Hm.
- Back then, the management said I should
- cover agriculture and forestry news. I
- thought, I studied international
- relations.
- Yes.
- But why, I said, am I being placed in
- agriculture and forestry? Just go with
- it, they said. In the end, I did it
- earnestly,
- and it turned out to be very beneficial
- .
- I was often invited by the Minister of
- Forestry and the Minister of
- Agriculture to travel around the
- regions. So, I know almost every
- province in Indonesia down to the
- regency level,
- into the deep jungles, even all the way
- to Freeport, I know it.
- Now, as time passed, it turned out that
- I was eventually assigned to New York
- at the UN headquarters. It means that
- whatever we learn, whatever we have
- studied, will never be in vain.
- Everything surely has its benefits.
- Whatever field we study, in the end, we
- will definitely feel its benefits. The
- important thing is to have the
- earnestness to study it, like that. And
- the next thing, of course, the pride is
- when our writing is read by many people
- ; that is certainly a pride, an
- extraordinary inner wealth that cannot
- be valued with money. And several times
- , my writing, thank God, has been
- noticed by people. The comments were
- also numerous.
- It was even used as a reference by
- several parties. Are you still writing
- now, Sir?
- As the Director of News, the commander
- of news at Antara, I don't just oversee
- the news; I also, thank God, try to
- keep setting an example.
- Setting an example for what?
- To be productive in writing. Whoever I
- meet, as long as it has news value, I
- always write about it. When an Antara
- reporter isn't there, I go down and do
- it myself. At the same time, I want to
- set an example for my subordinates that
- even in a structural position, we must
- keep writing. Especially, I say, as
- journalists, our skills, our creative
- thinking, must be constantly honed.
- Yes.
- And that will prevent us from
- stagnation. Like that.
- Now, regarding writing as a form of
- da'wah, Sir.
- Yes. Yes. There are many writings now
- that, thank God, even if they are in
- the form of blogs.
- Which contain messages of da'wah as
- well, Sir. Yes.
- How do you see that, Sir?
- Exactly right. Indeed, writing is, what
- do you call it? It cannot be separated
- from its elements. For me, I always
- refer to what is called prophetic
- journalism. So, prophetic journalism,
- where the prophetic traits we need to
- emulate are Siddiq (truthful), Amanah (
- trustworthy), Tabligh (communicative),
- and Fatonah (intelligent). So, those
- are the elements we take, which we try
- to adopt. A journalist's duty is indeed
- like that. Must be honest,
- then convey the truth, and then must be
- intelligent. So, and be trusted, be
- amanah. If a journalist, for example,
- writes dishonestly, what would happen?
- Whereas there is an adage that says the
- media can turn a worm into a dragon, or
- a dragon into a worm. If we lie about
- something big, making it small, or
- taking something small and blowing it
- out of proportion, that is not sidik,
- nor is it amanah. So, in my opinion, it
- is true that there is an element of
- da'wah, especially since the first
- verse revealed was "Iqra"(read), and
- that means it's not just reading, we
- must also write so our work can be read
- by others.
- Like that.
- Now, Sir, perhaps after 28 years, Sir.
- In the world of journalism or being a
- reporter,
- what is the difference between
- reporters then and now, Sir? In
- principle, actually, nothing is
- different.
- There is no difference, right?
- That a journalist must stand on the
- truth, must be based on facts. There
- are two types of facts. One is the fact
- of events, and two is the fact of
- opinions. Like that.
- Yes.
- Journalists must not write based on
- rumors, prejudices, or hearsay. It must
- be based on facts, facts, or opinions
- gathered from interviews. And news is
- essentially facts constructed by a
- journalist. Meaning, facts shaped by
- the reporter.
- So, by grounding themselves in facts,
- they report on whatever is happening in
- society. That is the reality.
- Mr. AD, you've probably visited many
- different countries, Mr. AD.
- Especially perhaps during Ramadan
- abroad, sir. Perhaps.
- Oh, yes. That's a good question; it
- reminds me of my time stationed in New
- York.
- Yes. How was that?
- I was stationed in New York for 5 years
- ,
- from '93 to '98.
- Yes.
- And, thank God, together with friends,
- I was one of the founders of the
- Indonesian Mosque in New York, called
- Al-Hikmah Mosque. That mosque was the
- first one established abroad funded
- independently by the Indonesian
- community there.
- The first Indonesian mosque abroad.
- Yes. The very first abroad.
- Named Al-Hikmah Mosque. It's in the
- Queens area of New York.
- And it was built without any cost from
- government funding.
- Purely from the community.
- Some government officials contributed
- personally, though.
- And it continues to grow to this day.
- While I was there, I followed
- everything from the groundbreaking to
- its completion and operation. Then,
- thank God, especially during Ramadan,
- many Indonesians would come to the
- mosque daily after work despite their
- busy schedules. You could really feel
- the serenity of Ramadan abroad in New
- York, and it would get even busier on
- Saturdays and Sundays. Hm.
- And not just that, it turns out other
- Muslim immigrant communities in New
- York joined us as well. There were
- people from Puerto Rico, Lebanon,
- Turkey, Malaysia, and several other
- countries. Pakistan was also included.
- So, thank God, our mission of preaching
- could be carried out to a certain
- extent in New York. With my basic
- background from studying at a madrasa
- —though not directly in a pesantren,
- I studied under several teachers and
- scholars in Pandeglang. Thank God, that
- foundation became a source of pride for
- me.
- I was then chosen as one of the eight
- khatibs (sermon givers) in New York.
- Masha'Allah.
- So the first sermon was in Indonesian,
- Yes.
- and the second sermon was in English.
- That was very memorable for me. So when
- I was in New York,
- socializing with many people felt like
- being at home; it was extraordinary. I
- felt it deeply. Breaking our fast there
- felt more intimate than it does back
- home in Indonesia or in the village.
- Because imagine, abroad, with many
- communities from various tribes, plus
- people from, uh, outside our country,
- what's it called, uh
- gathering together for iftar, followed
- by lectures, then continuing with
- Tarawih prayers. And what's
- extraordinary is that the food for
- breaking the fast is brought by each
- person individually.
- Oh, I see.
- Some people bring, you know, things
- from their own countries
- that we didn't know about before.
- So it's not just Indonesian food.
- Masha Allah.
- The atmosphere is incredibly intimate
- and personal for us,
- perhaps because there is a bond of
- faith.
- That's right. Correct. That is what
- unites us.
- True. Extraordinary.
- Now, Sir, if I may ask, who is the
- figure that inspires you? Mr. AT
- uh
- who always gives you inspiration, Mr.
- AT, who is it? Maybe there's a scholar
- or a public figure.
- Oh, right. Speaking specifically about
- my time at Antara, I remember the late
- Imam Hamidi. To me, he was, what shall
- I say, a figure, a teacher, and a role
- model. Yeah.
- Because amidst his busy schedule, he
- always reminded us—
- Imam Yakhsyallah is the Imamul Muslimin
- . Imam of the Jama'ah Muslimin (
- Hizbullah). And I know that he, uh,
- what do you call it? Oversees more than
- 20 Islamic boarding schools in 20
- provinces. Extraordinary. Al-Fatah,
- right?
- When I joined, the late Imam was the
- secretary of the institution. I was the
- second-in-command at Antara, and he was
- the information officer. So, he was
- placed at Antara because his background
- was in information; he was close to the
- journalists, and he was the one who
- always reminded us of the importance of
- balancing our busyness with spiritual
- aspects.
- And he was very inspiring and always
- full of enthusiasm. When I first joined
- Antara, I felt a bit like, "Is this not
- quite the right fit for me?" But he was
- the one who always gave something
- inspiring, motivating, providing
- motivation,
- and eventually, it strengthened my
- resolve, "Ah, in that case, I will
- continue." So, my closeness to him was
- extraordinary, personally.
- And even when he retired, I was always
- invited, and I always came. Even with
- what is now called the Mikraj News
- Agency.
- Yes.
- I participated in it; in fact, the name
- 'Mina'—
- you helped build it, right?
- Yes. The name 'Mina' was actually my
- idea initially. Because at that time,
- initially, if I may tell the story, in
- 2012,
- the late Imam had an idea to hold an
- international conference on Al-Quds,
- Palestine, and the liberation of
- Palestine. It was held in Bandung.
- Yes.
- I was the PR person there with my
- colleague, Mr. Edi Utama, also from
- Antara. After the event finished, we
- gathered. The Imam said, "Mr. AT and
- Mr. Edi, if possible, I'd like you to
- be the PR to travel around,"
- to explain the results of the
- conference to various countries. We
- then thought that it wouldn't be
- effective and its reach would be very
- limited. Then Mr. Edi and I had the
- idea, why don't we start an online news
- agency?
- Finally, it was accepted. Now, the
- problem was, what should we call it?
- After a month of debating, I meditated
- and contemplated, and thank God, I
- found the name Mikrajus Agency, from
- the word Mi'raj. And then Imam
- elaborated, uh, what it was, and
- thankfully until now the name is
- Mikrajus Agency.
- Masha Allah, there are so many, uh,
- what, experiences with him.
- Yes, because he is very fatherly, you
- know.
- Fatherly.
- Fatherly. Then, there are certain
- things that seem, uh, what? They seem
- trivial but make people feel motivated.
- For example, in the morning, he pats
- your back and asks, "How are you?""How
- is the family? How are the kids?" So, I
- feel like other leaders aren't like
- that.
- So close, right, with
- so close. So people feel, feel this,
- feel valued, feel flattered, you know.
- So the relationship becomes much better
- . People feel motivated. Those are
- sides that might be small things. But
- touches like that make people feel
- motivated, like that.
- Alright.
- Uh-huh.
- Brothers and sisters blessed by Allah,
- right now we are chatting with Mr. Adhi
- Surya Syafaat. He is the Director of
- News at LKBN Antara, brothers and
- sisters. Alhamdulillah, he gave us some
- time to have a chat. Perhaps we have
- already heard a lot about his
- background, how he joined Antara, how
- his assignment in New York was so
- amazing, which might really inspire us
- all, brothers and sisters. Don't go
- anywhere, we will continue our chat
- with him later. We will return after
- this break. Thank you, brothers and
- sisters, for still listening to Radio
- Silaturahim and also Rasil TV. On this
- suhoor occasion, brothers and sisters,
- we are still talking with Mr. Adhi
- Surya Syafaat. He is the Director of
- News at LKBN Antara, brothers and
- sisters. Earlier at the beginning, we
- listened to, uh, the conversation with
- him. Alhamdulillah, there are many
- things that, God willing, are very
- useful for us all, brothers. We will
- continue the chat, sir. Next, Mr. Adhi,
- I want to, uh, ask about journalists
- again, Mr. Adhi.
- Yes.
- Surely, uh, if we read writings, it
- seems like, for example, from one
- journalist,
- various articles make it seem like that
- journalist is smart at everything.
- About agriculture, he can write,
- about
- maybe about technology, he also seems
- proficient at writing. Yeah.
- So, actually, besides knowledge, what
- is needed by a journalist, sir? Yes. Uh
- , that's a very good question, uh, a
- journalist must be able to write about
- anything.
- Indeed, not too detailed, but at least
- in general, he must understand. Uh the
- ability to write must indeed be trained
- , and everyone can surely do it as long
- as there is willingness and sincerity,
- right. Yes. Now, uh the key is you must
- read a lot. So, a journalist must know
- the daily news landscape and what is
- being reported. At the very least, if
- we read newspapers from mainstream
- media, we should read the headlines.
- That’s the minimum.
- Then, for other things, for example,
- when writing something, a journalist
- must dig deep and read a lot about the
- topic.
- So, we must seek out and read various
- references. Especially if a journalist
- is conducting what is called
- investigative reporting,
- it must be in-depth. Yes. And it must
- be done seriously and thoroughly. If
- they have the basics of writing but
- lack the earnestness to see how deep
- the facts go, or how far they should
- convey them to the public, well, it
- won't work if we don't read. So, the
- key is that journalists must also read
- a lot. Besides reading the daily news
- landscape, they must also read
- references for what they intend to
- write.
- Without that, I am sure it won't work.
- The second thing is, of course, they
- must have networking. When we are
- writing, if we don't have interviews,
- the piece will lack depth, variety, or
- appeal. Now, interviews are obtained if
- we have sources. Sources that we
- already know. Therefore, a journalist
- must also have many friends. Anyone at
- all, not just officials, but perhaps
- activists, community leaders, and even
- people anywhere.
- So, they must be good at socializing,
- be outgoing, talk a lot, mingle, keep
- in touch, and discuss things often. If
- necessary, they should join various
- communities that have idealism, like
- that.
- So, the key is to read a lot as well.
- Correct.
- Right. And earlier I quoted a saying
- that media or journalists can turn
- worms into dragons and dragons into
- worms, right? Making the small look big
- , and the big look small.
- It can be blown up or scaled down.
- Yes, it can be big or small. Yes. Now,
- for the public, we should emphasize and
- remind them not to swallow everything
- raw,
- the news or information we receive, sir
- .
- Correct. Exactly. One must be critical.
- Therefore, as citizens watching
- television, reading print media, or
- perhaps online media, it is just like
- journalists; we must also read a lot,
- know a lot, and hear a lot so that, in
- quotes, we are not misled by deceptive
- information.
- Information now is so confusing,
- yes,
- each party feels they are the ones who
- are right. The key is, if we read a lot
- and discuss things with the right
- people—those who are competent,
- professional, and whose expertise
- cannot be doubted—
- for example, academics or certain
- groups.
- uh public figures, I am sure, uh, what
- is it called? What the media conveys
- can be filtered by itself. So they will
- determine their stance because they
- already have a basis to act that way.
- The keyword is being critical, right,
- the tabayun earlier.
- Alright. Yes. And uh I heard that you
- are also active in the MUI, sir?
- As what, sir?
- I am there as a member of the
- Information Commission.
- Hm. What kind of activities?
- Uh, we publish a magazine called Mimbar
- Ulama.
- Hm. Yes.
- Uh, and it is published regularly. Then
- , God willing, in the near future, the
- MUI television will also be active,
- right.
- Managed by friends from Antara.
- Yes. Uh, friends from Antara and
- several other media.
- There are those from Republika, from
- Gatra,
- and then several other media as well.
- Uh, from Antara, there are two people.
- One is me, the other is Mr. Saiful Hadi
- , the son of Mr. K.H. Damal. He was, uh
- , previously at Antara, now he is a
- senior advisor, and we provide
- suggestions. We have invited them to
- meetings at Antara several times.
- Uh, it is very important because many
- fatwas issued by the MUI are not
- well-publicized, not, uh, not massive
- enough.
- For example, halal fatwas, yes, halal
- fatwas, then whatever facts there are.
- Uh, so those should be a reference for
- Muslims. Now, therefore, it is very
- important that we publish them through
- our media, in addition to, of course,
- Antara itself reporting on them.
- So that is how it is.
- Alright. Now, sir, at Antara itself,
- during this Ramadan, are there any
- special Ramadan activities, sir?
- Yes. Uh, we have them. So, there are
- several things. First, uh, certainly
- internally, we have many, there are
- several divisions, right?
- Yes. The news division, commercial
- division, finance, and HR. Each
- division, uh, has some kind of, you
- know, a joint breaking of the fast to
- strengthen ties among each division.
- But generally, uh, after all that is
- finished, we all, employees with
- management, employees with directors,
- also hold a joint breaking of the fast
- event, uh, inviting, uh, by inviting,
- before breaking the fast, there is a
- lecture by certain figures. Now, then
- another thing, we also, uh, help
- organize, for example, intensive
- religious study camps, whether outside
- or held at Antara; we do that routinely
- . Besides that, we also attend
- invitations held by associates and
- partners, like that. So the atmosphere
- is truly felt, uh, really felt.
- What is it called? Solemn, right. Very
- Islamic atmosphere, you know, like that
- , and, uh, and that is what we always,
- uh, use as a side to encourage
- ourselves from the side of, you know,
- the spiritual side, because remembering
- that
- Indonesia's independence was achieved
- in the month of Ramadan, right, the
- Friday of the proclamation, imagine
- people are never, never aware or
- realize that if we think about it, it
- is extraordinary, Ramadan, Indonesia
- became independent in the month of
- Ramadan.
- The blessings of Ramadan.
- Yeah, and then, what is it, on Friday,
- something like that.
- Yeah.
- Then, if we look at the history of the
- Prophet,
- actually, the battles that were most
- thrilling and yielded extraordinary
- victories occurred in the month of
- Ramadan. So it is wrong for people to
- say that during Ramadan,
- we should be lazy,
- lazy and sleep a lot, saying that sleep
- itself is worship—that’s wrong.
- Working hours are also shortened, right
- ?
- That's it. Even though, actually,
- that’s where our spirit should grow
- even more. That’s why the foundation
- must be strong, that this is a command
- from Allah the Almighty, and then
- there is much wisdom behind it. If we
- reflect and study it, it turns out it
- actually makes us more motivated
- instead.
- Are you going home for the holidays too
- , sir?
- God willing, I am going home too. But
- where are you going, sir?
- To Pandeglang. Pandeglang. Yes.
- Pandeglang. However,
- as a news commander, I cannot stay away
- for long. So I must be present when the
- soldiers are fighting, I must be there.
- So I can't, for example, go on vacation
- anywhere. Wherever I am, for example,
- just yesterday,
- I went to Lampung to monitor the news.
- Previously, I also went to Malaysia,
- then to Taiwan. I always pay attention
- to the news being reported; sometimes
- there are things that are wrong, that
- are mistaken.
- And that is what I always give
- motivation for, so that we
- carry out this media mission within the
- right corridors. Providing something
- for the public that is inspiring,
- motivating, empowering, and
- enlightening. Educating—there is an
- educational side to it, right? And
- within the framework of nationalism,
- the framework is
- to defend the Unitary State of the
- Republic of Indonesia.
- So there is the love of the homeland
- there.
- Yes. Now, sir, when returning to the
- topic of duties in various countries,
- for example, Malaysia, Taiwan, or other
- countries,
- is there a specific habit, perhaps,
- when visiting abroad? What do you
- usually do, Mr. AT, besides carrying
- out your duties? Is there anything, Mr.
- AT?
- Specifically, that's a unique thing.
- Yeah. For example, I always want to
- meet, I want to find a mosque.
- And that is interesting. When I was on
- duty in
- what is it, in Central America.
- To Central America.
- If it's a Muslim country, it might be
- easy, right?
- Yes. That's the issue; when I was in
- New York, the Indonesian Ambassador to
- the UN also covered several countries
- in South America. The Bahamas,
- Nicaragua, Central America. Then, what
- is Bob Marley's country?
- Jamaica.
- Jamaica, you know Jamaica too. Now,
- when in Central America, we happened to
- attend Friday prayers.
- Yes. It turned out there was a mosque
- in that city; I was happy to see that
- there was a community, even though we
- didn't understand the sermon since it
- was in a different language.
- Were there many congregants, sir?
- It's not too crowded, but the mosque is
- quite large.
- So there’s this feeling, you know,
- where we—
- We feel joyful, happy, and grateful
- that such a community actually exists,
- and they are so passionate in their
- preaching, though it's in their own
- language.
- It looks passionate, but we don't
- understand it. We don't understand. But
- at least we understand the general
- boundaries and the pillars of the
- sermon, like the call to be pious and
- so on, right?
- Yes. Right.
- Now, sir, perhaps you could share—
- since you are also active in the MUI—
- could you share a few Ramadan messages
- with our brothers, sisters, listeners,
- and viewers?
- Oh, Ramadan messages. First, of course,
- if someone is a worker, especially a
- journalist, we must stay enthusiastic,
- knowing that during Ramadan, our
- performance should actually improve
- because the value and rewards are
- certainly different compared to outside
- of Ramadan. Second, of course, doing
- anything must be done seriously, with
- focus and direction; it shouldn't be
- done haphazardly. Because ultimately,
- any achievement in an organization, a
- company, or anywhere else must have
- results, targets, and goals, and those
- can only be reached if we are focused,
- serious, and directed. Especially if,
- as I said, we have the intention that
- this has the value of worship. I think
- with that kind of earnestness, we will
- achieve what we hope for and what we
- create, and continue to think
- positively. Because no matter what, it
- is from that positive perception that
- great works are born, and it will build
- good networks with everyone. Because if
- we have even a little prejudice or bad
- intentions, or other heart ailments,
- our hearts won't be clear—not a*
- qolbun salim*—so everything will be
- difficult to achieve. Because indeed,
- the key to effective communication is
- first that our hearts must be clear.
- Second, of course, do not think
- ethnocentrically. Meaning, do not think
- that we are better than others. That
- our tribe, for example, is better than
- others. Whereas in reality, it is*Inna
- akramakum indallahi atqakum*. Yes, that
- is the key to good communication. Next,
- do not judge people based on, for
- example, just one approach, or when
- seeing someone, immediately labeling
- them with a stigma like, "Ah, they're
- from that place, they must be like that
- ." Don't be like that. So, we must be
- neutral. Then, of course, we must also
- have a broad perspective in viewing
- things. Perspective means point of view
- . If we only look from one point of
- view, it’s usually narrow. Therefore,
- if we look at an object, an issue, or
- anything from a broad perspective
- across various aspects, we are usually
- wiser, like that. Subhanallah, that’s
- a very wonderful Ramadan message.
- And may I ask, sir, what is your life
- motto? Do you have a life motto?
- Well, for my life motto, uh, I I
- believe in in luck. Meaning that luck
- is indeed given by God, yes.
- Yeah.
- But I believe even more in hard work,
- like that.
- Hm. Yes. Yeah.
- Like that. For example, when I was
- posted in New York, as I said earlier,
- that was luck because it was indeed
- God's guidance, right.
- True. Yes.
- Now, but if, for instance, when I was
- stationed in New York, I just relaxed
- without hard work,
- everyone would be disappointed, like
- that. Everyone would be disappointed.
- But then I filled it well.
- Alhamdulillah, until now I have
- maintained good relationships,
- especially with diplomats, for example,
- Mr. Martin Tadegawa, who was once
- Foreign Minister, yes.
- Foreign Minister, yes.
- I can just call him up, like that.
- Yes, then with Mr. Fahir, yesterday
- there was an international conference,
- yes.
- International Muslim journalists '
- conference at Wisma Antara, a
- collaboration between Mina and Antara,
- including Rasil, the support was
- extraordinary.
- That, alhamdulillah, I have the channel
- with Mr. Fahir.
- And it was just by phone, like that. "
- Mr. Fahir, this is...""And then, what
- do you mean?" He asked, "How many are
- expected to attend, and where are they
- from?" I gave him the background info,
- and finally he came, and I am also,
- alhamdulillah, close to several
- national figures, for example, K.H.
- Hasim Muzadi. Coincidentally, he is my
- neighbor in Depok, yes.
- So, Alhikam Depok, yes, near UI. I
- invited the editor-in-chief of, uh,
- what is it, Mina, to come to his place.
- And then, uh, alhamdulillah, even
- though he was sick, he came, and even
- in the forum
- in the forum he said, "I am actually
- sick, but because the one inviting me
- is next to me, he pointed me as the
- moderator, so I came," like that, so
- that is the key, the friendship (
- silaturahim) is extraordinary and
- cannot be valued with money.
- That is why we as Muslims, especially
- the young generation, must utilize
- Islamic values like this. Increase your
- friendship (silaturahim) because it
- will extend your life, facilitate all
- affairs, right, and it will even
- increase your sustenance. And the key
- is from there, it is extraordinary. The
- key, for example, is networking, in
- management terms.
- If we only rely on the government, for
- instance, it certainly won't be
- profitable.
- But we have networking and cooperation
- with foreign parties.
- And that is not capital in money, it is
- capital in ideas, networking.
- And finally, the cooperation with the
- British news agency and Bloomberg
- generated dollars.
- And from there, our operational funding
- for the company was greatly helped.
- The power of silaturahim, yes. Now,
- that is it, extraordinary. That is why
- it suits Rasil, like that. That is the
- key.
- Radiance of silaturahim.
- When I heard Rasil, I thought, "Wow,
- this is a very good name." A name is a
- prayer, right.
- Yes. Amen. Amen. Insyaallah.
- Alright, sir. Thank you very much for
- giving your time to talk with us, sir.
- Thank you very much once again. And
- maybe one more thing, sir, I missed it.
- Do you have any special message for us,
- perhaps as young journalists, Mr. Ani?
- Yes.
- A special message before we say goodbye
- to the listeners and viewers, Sir.
- Yes. Yes. Yes. My message is, before
- that, I would like to express my
- gratitude and pride that Rasil is
- managed primarily in the field by young
- people. This is encouraging. And I also
- see that they all have spirit and
- idealism, which is reflected in their
- appearance. Now, my next message is to
- pursue what we are doing now with
- seriousness, earnestness, and the
- intention of worship. I am sure the
- benefits will be reaped in the future.
- So, will you stay at Rasil later?
- Hopefully, you stay at Rasil until you
- help it grow, or perhaps move on to
- other media. We must always carry
- Islamic values. Because an Islamic
- media outlet doesn't just mean the
- media has unique traits, but its
- journalists can also color non-Islamic
- media. That is what we hope for. That
- is what we hope for, and don't forget
- that many great people started as
- journalists. Anywhere in the world,
- there are many journalists whose
- writings are extraordinary and can
- change the world. So it is like that. I
- hope my friends, younger ones, and
- colleagues at Rasil continue to work
- earnestly, seriously, and focused, and
- don't be carried away by misleading
- media. Especially in the midst of media
- convergence where IT is so rapid. I
- hope you stay on the right track,
- adhering to or following prophetic
- journalism that refers to siddiq,
- amanah, tablig, and fatonah, and also
- take care of your health. Because, as a
- piece of information, don't let many
- journalists get jaundice from working
- too seriously. While neglecting their
- diet,
- not drinking enough water, especially
- if smoking in the room. And don't take
- night shifts too often. If possible,
- just have a shift once a week. Don't,
- for example, ask for only night shift
- duty, don't.
- Many of my friends have had their
- health compromised because they chose
- to work only at night.
- So, eating habits must also be
- maintained. Time management must be
- utilized as well as possible so that
- there is a balance.
- Between our duties, spiritual side, and
- good food intake, so our health is
- maintained. If we are not healthy, it
- is impossible for us to carry out our
- duties well. Therefore, health is also
- very important and should not be
- ignored. Alright, once again thank you
- Sir for your time chatting with us and
- Iwan. That concludes our Sahur talk
- with a figure on this occasion, Mr.
- Surya Syafaat. He is the former
- Director of News at Antara, and
- hopefully, we can all take lessons and
- wisdom from our conversation during
- this Sahur occasion. And to our
- brothers and sisters, we do not forget
- to wish you a blessed fast. May our
- fasting and other acts of worship this
- Ramadan be accepted by Allah Subhanahu
- wa ta'ala.
- Finally, I am Rizal Alhaq from the
- Wisma Antara office on Jalan Medan
- Merdeka Selatan, along with the crew on
- duty: Sandi, Rian, and also Robi
- Undrudiri. Subhanakallahumma
- wabihamdika ashadu alla ilaha illa anta
- astagfiruka wa atubu ilaik. Billahi
- taufik wal hidayah. Wassalamualaikum
- warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
- Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi
- wabarakatuh. Thank you.