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at la Welcome.
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious
, the Most Merciful. Peace be upon you,
and Allah's mercy and blessings.
O Allah, send prayers upon our master
Muhammad and the family of Muhammad.
Praise be to Allah, we meet again today
, Thursday, January 7, 2021, or the
23rd of Rabiul Akhir. Oh, wait, no.
Rabiul Awwal 1442 Hijriah, as usual,
Radio Silahim presents the Ahlan
Wasahlan program. Uh, do you know the
city of Pompeii in Italy, near Naples?
This is an ancient Roman city that has
become ruins near Naples, now in the
Campania region of Italy. Pompeii was
destroyed by the eruption of Mount
Vesuvius in 79 AD. The dust from the
Mount Vesuvius eruption buried the city
of Pompeii and everything in it several
feet deep. Causing this city to be lost
for 1,600 years before being
accidentally rediscovered. Since then,
the excavation of this city has
provided an incredibly detailed view of
life in a city at the peak of the Roman
Empire. Why did I suddenly talk about
Pompeii? Pompeii was a city punished by
Allah. Because of the people's deeds,
what was it called? Adultery,
homosexuality, then Allah destroyed it.
Alright, that is one of the tourist
attractions. We invite back Dr. Ir.
Kuswandi, let's talk about traveling.
Uh, because he has a hobby of traveling
as he is a long-time travel consultant
and an ITB alumnus in urban planning,
right?
Yes, that's correct.
Yeah. He has been to all regions of
Indonesia and at least 30 cities in 30
countries around the world. Peace be
upon you.
And peace be upon you, and Allah's
mercy and blessings.
Dr. Ir. Kuswandi, how are you, Mr. Kus?
I'm well, Mr. Krisna. Praise be to
Allah.
Mr. Kus, uh, are humans given an
instinct to travel and see the world
beyond their own? Is there such an
instinct, does every human have that?
Um, in my understanding, they do, and
it is a natural disposition (fitrah).
Fitrah, even in the Quran it says, "Go
on a journey," right?
Basically. Yes. Fantastic.
Yeah.
So, uh, indeed there is a spirit to
move. Yeah.
Must move.
In my understanding, humans, by essence
, must move. Must not remain still. H
Sometimes you stay still for prayer,
but outside of that, you must move. I
hope Kang Momon Modero is listening
because he also has a hobby of
traveling, and he doesn't like
traveling in big groups. He likes being
alone, using a bicycle to Thailand,
everywhere.
Why? If you are in a big group, when he
is tired, he can't just tell his
friends, "I'm tired too," like that.
Yeah.
If he finds a unique mosque, he can
stop, he can organize his
what he wants to know with
as he pleases, not dependent on others.
Now, as for Mr. Kus, what is your
motivation for traveling here and there
? What is the concept of traveling
around the world and Indonesia? Mm.
Well, Ustadz, for me, one is certainly,
you know, it's called recreation to
refresh.
The second is definitely to gain
knowledge.
Yeah.
wherever it is we want to go
we must reach it. that is the essence
of a journey. The third one is
sometimes part of proving something.
Yeah. Now, as mentioned earlier, one of
them is Pompeii, which is evidence,
right, if we study the verses, um God
provides signs as proof
for those who want to do it, who want
to delve deeper. Now, one of the ways
to find proof is that we need to travel
.
Hm.
So, traveling is necessary, right?
Yes. Including, for example, the Dead
Sea, that's part of one
one of those narrated in the Quran.
What can be grasped from the Dead Sea?
If it's the Dead Sea, it's um a case
related to the process in the time of
Prophet Lot, yes. As far as I know
if we talk about the tourism, it's very
interesting. Because this place is, um,
located 400 meters below sea level.
Minus 400.
Going down.
Oh,
so if we stand
at
it's not immediately water, right.
Sea level is at 0 meters.
Yeah.
Right. Yes.
The depth from
from
the Dead Sea. The terrain of the Dead
Sea drops from Amman city, it goes down
down, down
to 400
before reaching the water surface.
Hm.
If broken down from a geological
perspective, there are many events. I
estimate that, um, it was once a plain
then experienced a process of, um,
sliding
so
it went down.
Yeah.
In other places, it might be called
liquefaction now, but this is on a
large scale.
Yeah.
So it collapsed.
What is the difference between tourist
attractions in America, Europe, and
Indonesia? In America, most are
man-made engineering like Universal
Studios, but there are also many
natural ones. There
are many natural ones too, right.
But in Europe, it's natural; Indonesia
has even more nature,
right. Indonesia is very rich in many
ways.
Very rich, yes.
Yes, the nature is rich, and its
culture is also rich. Then, not to
mention the people themselves are also
rich. Hm.
There is so much that can be enjoyed,
actually.
Hm. For Indonesia, where have you been
that was nice?
Um, where? From Aceh to Papua.
Something like that. How about Raja
Ampat?
Already been there.
Raja Ampat
already.
What is unique about Raja Ampat?
Raja Ampat, um
it falls into the nature category,
right.
Yes.
Yeah. Yes. So if we classify it, Raja
Ampat belongs to nature tourism, yes.
So the main attraction there is the
marine park.
Hm.
So the marine biota, the, um, maritime
aspect
is what is popular. Even though,
actually, above the sea, on land, it's
also very beautiful.
Hm. What part? Well, what?
The view, of course, the panorama, of
course. But
inside those islands
there are many things. There are
conservation forests,
H
there are birds of paradise.
Oh right.
There are mini kangaroos, there are, uh
, what are they called? Certainly
various vegetation that is indeed
endemic there.
Indonesia is truly amazing.
Everything is in Indonesia. But, uh, to
get there you need exercise, need
training, need special preparation
because
and heading to the land from the
islands
in Raja Ampat, right? Uh, it takes time
, takes energy, needs physical
preparation.
If we want to reach Raja Ampat, what
are the steps to get there? Which
flights do you take first and where to?
Well, if we calculate from Jakarta,
uh, surely you land in Sorong.
In Sorong.
Yes, after landing,
from Sorong to get there
you can take a plane, but it only flies
twice a week, heh.
Oh, you have to know the schedule too,
then.
Yes, so it's not daily, but if you take
the ferry, it's every day.
Okay, from Sorong to Raja Ampat, how
many hours?
Two, by ferry it's two and a half hours
.
Two and a half hours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Then you only reach the capital of Raja
Ampat, Waisai by name.
Not yet to the tourist spots. Well, yes
, because that's a small town on a big
island, Waigeo Island.
Heh.
So to get to the tourist objects, you
have to travel again.
Hm.
So if you only reach the city, you
won't get anything. That's what many
people misunderstand, right?
Mr. Kus, when did your hobby of
traveling start? Eh, well, even before
high school, I was already traveling.
Already traveling.
Already traveling on foot.
Did you climb mountains too?
Right? I've climbed parts of mountains.
Hm. Okay. Which mountains have you been
to?
If you mean the peak, well, not yet.
Heh.
But if you mean part of the peak, then
yes.
Hm. He.
Yes. Which ones? Both in Java and
outside Java. I've been to Tambora.
Heh.
Uh, regarding Banten, there's the Baduy
, right?
Inner Baduy. Outer Baduy. Can you
Mr. Kus, tell us about Outer Baduy and
Inner Baduy? What distinguishes the
Outer Baduy from the Inner Baduy? Well,
Ustaz, the Baduy are divided into two,
right? Outer Baduy and Inner Baduy. The
easiest way to tell is that we often
meet them, the Baduy people walking,
right?
They definitely don't wear footwear,
for one. Secondly,
that is already their rule, right?
Uh, yes, that's probably the norm.
Yes. Those are the norms, right?
Then, what's the difference between
Inner Baduy and Outer Baduy? Inner
Baduy definitely wears white.
Inner Baduy wears white.
Yes. Okay.
Sometimes black.
Hm. Sometimes black.
If it's the Outer Baduy,
they wear blue.
They wear blue.
They never wear white clothes.
Are they not allowed to use other
clothing styles?
Uh, no.
That's the norm, right?
Yes, that's just their clothing.
What makes them so strong at walking
outside the city, everywhere on foot
like that?
Perhaps? I’ve spoken with them, yes,
because they’ve been walking
everywhere since they were born. Yeah.
To the fields, to the—well, their
homes are by the fields, by the river.
They have to do that every single day,
right? Everything, bathing and all
sorts of activities, cleaning up—
it’s all done in the river. They
don't have bathrooms. They don't.
And their rules are very unique.
Cameras aren't allowed.
Cameras can be used up to the outer
Baduy area.
Inside the inner Baduy, it's not
allowed.
Not allowed.
Is soap allowed?
What?
The use of soap.
Oh, no, that’s not allowed. What
external products are allowed to be
used?
If we go there to visit or even stay
over
yeah, we are only allowed to bring food
and, uh, enough lighting.
Lighting.
You aren't allowed to have any lighting
.
Can we bathe using shampoo? No.
Never mind shampoo, even soap isn't
allowed. Oh, I see. So the nature is
really well preserved, isn't it?
Yes. Yes. If you follow the rules.
Unless we want to break them, right? We
bathe in the river, sir.
Yeah. Oh, in the river, there are no
bathrooms?
None at all. None provided.
If, excuse me, if you need to use the
toilet, for example, there's a place—
basically, everything, day or night,
you have to go to the river.
Oh, that's bar—
I once had to, at 2:00 AM, go to the
river to use the bathroom. In the pitch
dark. So, after 6:00 PM, after Maghrib,
the lighting only relies on the moon,
if there is a moon, if it's a full moon
.
So, not allowed in there?
Not allowed—well, it’s not that you
aren't allowed in, you just don't go
there.
So, when you talk to them, do you use
Sundanese or what language?
Indonesian, they can speak it.
They can understand, right?
They understand.
How do they perceive the outside world?
Information about the outside, like
elections or whatever is happening
currently?
No, they don't, they don't need that.
Oh, unless they are told.
Yeah.
In their daily lives, they have no
radio, no electricity, nothing else.
So, regarding the election?
They only have, they only have cell
phones. They have cell phones.
They have cell phones just for
communication. And even then, they
charge them using a battery.
Oh.
Beyond that, there's nothing.
But they don't, they don't rebel, right
? They don't have the desire to be like
city people? No, they don't.
True. Well, excuse me, as for rebelling
, no, because that is the norm
they’ve built, the cultural structure
they’ve created, and
they continue to survive in that
condition.
Then, Pak Kus, how do we choose travel
destinations? Well, it depends on what
we want.
God has already provided many places
for us to have fun, right? One, and
second, to learn.
You gain something from there,
right? At the same time, it’s also to
build connections.
Hm.
Because building connections doesn't
necessarily have to be with
family, relatives, or people you
already know, right?
but we also need to build connections
with people we just met.
Well, the choice is up to us. We want
to want, uh, want, want an attraction,
a panoramic attraction,
panoramic views like that, or cultural
interaction, or something that involves
more thought, like an excursion to a
conservation forest or a museum,
that’s part of, uh, or do you want to
just have fun shopping like
Singapore
if it’s shopping, you don't
necessarily have to go abroad, you know
, you can shop anywhere, shop in a
batik village or in the village,
everything is there.
There’s a lot, Ustaz, if that's the
case.
Okay. Alright. You can also share your
impressions, uh, traveling, uh, which
place left the most impression on you.
Please, you can share, you can tell
your story here. Okay, we will read the
phone number of our guest speaker, Dr.
Ir. Kus Wadi. He is an ITB alumnus
whose hobby is traveling and tourism
consulting. Uh, prepare a pen and paper
. We will read his number later. We
will return after this. at at at at at
at Ah ha. Welcome. Radio Silaturahim,
broadcast from Jalan Masjid Silaturahim
36 Kalimanggis. Cibubur. Still on the
Alan Wasalan program where we talk
about traveling, the wisdom of
traveling with Dr. Ir. Kuswadi, an ITB
alumnus. Okay. Uh, Mr. Kus, there is
also Ijen Crater. There is blue fire,
right? Is that
only in Indonesia or does it exist
elsewhere too?
Uh, there is one more in America.
In America. Yes.
Oh, where? In America. Uh, I forgot, I
think it's around Peru if I'm not
mistaken.
What is Blue Fire anyway? What is it
like?
Blue Fire is a blue flame.
Blue flame.
So it can be seen at night, Ustaz.
Hm.
So, it's, uh, a burst of fire from the
sulfur smoke that hits the crater water
.
Very beautiful. Are we allowed to get
close, or how far should we be? How far
? Can we, uh, is 20 meters okay?
20 meters is okay, right?
Yes. H
yes, you can. I took photos from about
20 meters away.
Blue fire, right?
Yes. But you have to be able to endure,
uh, the sulfur smoke first.
Second, with the, uh, rather warm steam
. The third, you also, uh, must not be
nervous if you're close because the
bursts can go anywhere.
Oh, I see. And if it hits you, is it
dangerous or not?
No. The smoke isn't. If the fire
touches you, it's hot, of course. Then
what else?
It’s beautiful because, um,
to to find and see the blue fire, it
takes its own struggle.
God's greatness, indeed. Yes, God
created that, uh, place in Ijen, in the
Ijen Crater.
Yeah.
To get there, you have to go in the
middle of the night.
Oh.
You can't go during the day.
If you are from Jakarta, what is the
route to get there? How, J?
Oh, from, from Jakarta to Banyuwangi.
Banyuwangi. Then
Yes, you definitely have to stay over.
Yeah.
It's up to you to take a plane or a
train. From Banyuwangi to...
From Banyuwangi, you'll charter a
vehicle, charter a car
to the last post
at the foot of Mount Ijen. Well, from
there, you have to enter by 11:00 PM.
Hm.
You arrive there and wait a bit because
it opens at 12:00 AM.
Hm.
To reach the Ijen Crater location at
12:00 AM, it's about a 3-hour walk.
Hm. Now, Pak Kus, if we go to Madura,
what can we see in Madura?
Madura. Madura is actually a different
environment, even though it's still in
East Java.
Hm.
It's part of East Java, but Madura
Island specifically, everything is
different.
Hm. H
First, the language is different.
Yeah.
Second, the nature is also different.
It is dominated by limestone rocks.
Yeah.
Then, the culture is certainly
different too.
H.
And the food, the menu is also
different. I went there to Madura at
night and there was a show.
Yeah.
It's separated, yes, men and women are
separated.
Yes. That's about how it is because...
uh, what's it called? Mm. The people of
Madura are quite Islamic, right?
Yeah.
They hold onto those norms.
Yeah, yeah.
So we have to follow, it really should
be that way.
But when watching the cows, I felt
sorry for the cows. Yes, that's another
thing. Okay.
Have you watched it before?
I have. I have watched it.
Good.
Oh, it turns out the jockeys are thin;
they specifically look for thin ones.
H.
Okay, let's call Kang Mamon. Oh. Oh,
not connected yet. Kang Momon also has
a hobby of traveling. But he goes by
himself.
Yes.
Now, as for you, Pak Kus, when
traveling, do you prefer groups or
being alone? Mm. I started out by
myself.
Hm.
Unless I'm invited to join someone. So,
I prefer small groups.
I like small numbers. For me personally
, yes.
I mostly travel with my wife or family,
that's it. Unless there's another
activity with friends, right? Then I
could be in a group.
Hm. Uh...can we show gratitude for
God's creation by traveling, from Yudi
in the Cibubur City housing complex?
That's the question.
Certainly, Ustaz. So, even when
arriving at a place, we can get
inspiration for ourselves. Will we be
grateful for the opportunity that God
has given us
by arriving at that place, or do we
just forget it and just have fun,
and
gain nothing from the trip except
pleasure?
It shouldn't be like that. When we go
on a trip, besides getting refreshment,
I think we also need to gain knowledge
from it.
Hm.
At the same time, if you want to find
evidence of what is mentioned in the
Quran, one way is by traveling.
Hm. Whether it's the mention of Pompeii
, the Dead Sea, or us going to the
mountains
we see how God creates the art of the
earth in folded layers.
Hm.
If we only read the Quranic verses, we
might not grasp that, Ustaz.
But once we see the location, oh, it
turns out there are fractals, fractured
rocks.
Hm. Yeah.
Yes, that is what is meant
H
by how the earth's crust is folded.
Well, that's how I understand it. Now,
that can be seen starting from Banyumas
or on all islands in the southern part
of Java.
Is there a travel bureau in Rahasiakan
too?
Well,
traveling for fellowship, especially
for Umrah, Ustaz Tari brings a unique
approach. Over there, we are taken to
see where Umar bin Khattab lived, and
Ali's house, what it's like? Imagine
the distance
how far it is from the house of Umar
bin Khattab to the Nabawi Mosque.
Yes,
it's quite a long way, you know.
Yes. Yes,
masyaallah.
Yes, it should be like that. I also do
it that way.
Have you already been to those houses?
Yes.
Yes. Uh, various ones. So if there's an
opportunity, when I'm in Medina, I use
it to go to locations that have
historical records.
Yeah.
To the mosque of, um, what, Abu
Hurairah.
Uh-huh.
How about Taif, have you ever been to
Taif? The place where the Prophet once
was, not yet.
But the signs are no longer there. Ah,
it’s only just been opened recently.
Just opened, right?
Yes. Okay,
hopefully later, God willing.
Okay, please, perhaps you’d like to
share your experiences of traveling
that impacted your faith in God. Please
, we are waiting for your experience at
0218451512. Someone is asking for Mr.
Kus's phone number. Oh, is this Mr. Kus
Garlik? Yes, that's right. Mr. Kus
Garlik. Yes, that's correct, absolutely
. Yeah.
Okay, here is Mr. Kus's phone number.
0816 80 2391 0816 80 91. Mr. Kus,
people are asking which places require
high stamina if we go there, for
example, needing to climb stairs or
anything? Oh,
that would be the Great Wall of China.
It has those steps, right? Yes,
actually, any place situated at a
height
yeah
from our base, it takes stamina to
climb. Yeah.
It could be mountains, it could be
hills.
Hm.
No need to go far. In Lembang alone,
there are many.
Hm.
That require high stamina.
Hm. One is Mount Batu.
Hm.
That's in Lembang City.
In Lembang City.
Yes,
Ustaz. From Lembang City, heading
towards Maribaya.
Uh-huh.
Turn right and you'll find Mount Batu.
Oh,
quite high. It's already 1,300 meters
in height above sea level.
We call it MASL, meters above sea level
.
Hm. So, that's 1,300. But for climbing
up there, if you're not used to it, it
can be quite exhausting. Even though
it's inside the city.
Hm.
Well, or moving slightly aside in
Lembang towards, uh, Urat Pingping.
Pingping.
So, yes, before Maribaya turn left.
Yeah. That's even higher, about 1,400
meters, it just opened.
Uh, what's it called? Panorama.
Panorama.
Hm.
It's a hill located on the border
between West Bandung and
uh, Subang.
Actually, tourism is perhaps more
advanced now because it's helped by
Instagram, by
True. Google Maps.
Every day you can't go anywhere without
taking photos.
You can. That, that helps, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
What I think people need when traveling
is, uh, appropriate, uh, costumes and
preparation, Ustaz.
So,
I often meet people traveling, excuse
me, going to the beach but wearing a
safari suit. Doesn't fit, right?
Yeah, maybe it's not, not, not really
comfortable, actually. So, you have to
match it with the place, right? If, uh,
you should wear casual daily clothes,
for example, it could be for the beach
or in the mountains, for instance.
Now, physical preparation. Do we need
physical preparation to go to a place?
If the place really requires a special
trip, yes, like going to Kawah Ijen,
you have to walk.
As much as we like, as much as we
intend, if we go to Kawah Ijen, we must
come at night.
What time?
12:00 AM.
12:00 at night.
Arrive at the last vehicle post.
So you can see that flare, the blue
fire.
Yes. Uh, besides, it's also arranged
like that because
until 12:00 AM, people are still
working, hauling sulfur stones. Now,
after arriving from Banyuwangi, for
example, taking a vehicle to the last
post at 1,000 m above sea level, there
are no more vehicles and vehicles are
not allowed.
You must walk. Getting there takes 3
hours.
Hmm.
You definitely need stamina, Ustaz. 3
hours of walking, and it's uphill. So,
usually those who go there are the
young ones, teenagers, or
foreigners, westerners who are, what
you call it, hobbyists of walking
because it requires
power, or great energy to get there.
Do foreign tourists just go to Bali, or
where else in Indonesia are they fond
of? Yes. Is the whole of Indonesia
visited by them?
But Bali is the most popular, right?
Yes, certainly. But the rest, they
spread out to places depending on what
their interests are. If it's about
underwater matters or, uh, diving,
surfing, then they head to, yes, Raja
Ampat or Bunaken or
what do you call it, uh, Thousand
Islands. Thousand Islands is a place,
a good place for diving.
Hm.
That,
back in '90 I went to Lake Toba, but it
was quiet back then.
Lake Toba. Yeah.
Yes. Maybe
it was just quiet then. Lake Toba is
crowded.
I didn't visit during the holidays back
then.
Yeah. Lake Toba. Lake Toba has so much
to explore.
Hmm.
On Samosir Island, you know, when
crossing over, there are kids jumping
in to catch coins.
That’s an interesting attraction,
isn't it?
Yes. Yes. Uh, in many, many places.
Uh.
Does that happen abroad too?
I don't know.
Just in Indonesia, maybe. Throwing
coins and they chase after them. It
happens in other places too, like
in Sorong it's like that too.
Hm. What about Japan?
Japan, uh, yeah, I like it.
I like
I like the culture, I like the nature,
and the cleanliness too, right? Oh,
absolutely, Japan is, well,
uh, as far as I know, top-tier when it
comes to cleanliness in every place.
Yeah.
Even the markets are clean, right?
Yeah.
The easiest way to measure is, if the
market is clean, everything else is
definitely clean.
Hmm. If everything else is clean, it
doesn't necessarily mean the market is
clean. Yeah.
And that, and that cleanliness comes
from within the heart. Meaning, the
religious teachings about having to be
clean, to behave cleanly,
don't need to be taught to the Japanese
. The Japanese already practice that,
right? We are the ones who need to
learn how to be clean everywhere. I
think, uh, the hardest thing for us
tourists right now,
is the inability to maintain
cleanliness.
Yeah.
Both as tourists and as managers.
Hm. What about Vietnam?
Vietnam also has a lot of tourism there
, right? Very.
Those terraced rice fields
are very impressive there.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, what needs to be built, Ustaz, in
my opinion, uh, is the intention to be
clean.
Hm.
Treat cleanliness as an act of charity
for tourists and managers alike. Both
need it.
Hm.
I as a tourist, Ustaz as the manager.
If you don't have the value, the value
of cleanliness that must be constantly
taught, it won't last long.
Yes. Tourist buses are said to be clean
too,
yeah,
they are clean over there. If here,
once it's used, oh, peanut shells,
orange peels.
Yes.
That shouldn't be there, right?
Basically, it should be clean. If, in,
well, if we talk about Japan earlier,
uh, trash cans are cleaned almost every
one or two hours.
So even the trash cans are clean, right
?
Yes. Try comparing that with our
tourist spots.
Yeah. They definitely get cleaned, but
only twice.
Hm.
In the morning and in the evening.
Yeah.
In between, nothing. Job done, as they
say. If in
there must be many cleaners, right?
Yes. Yes. That's a risk, a consequence
of
what you call, if you have the spirit
to be clean, it has to be like that.
Hmm.
Things shouldn't just be scattered
around. Giving
waste in what? Putting it in the trash
can, even that must be done quickly.
That's how it is over there. If we just
leave it until it piles up.
Even just getting rid of all that trash
becomes impossible.
Hm.
Yeah, that’s the values that really
need to be uh passed on, actually.
Pak Kus, who is this WhatsApp message
from? Local tourism around Sentul is
also good. There are three waterfalls.
Hm.
Curug Gelis and others. There's Liho.
Only about 30 to 1 hour from Sentul
City.
Not too far, uh, affordable. Economical
and nice.
The Bogor area towards Mount Salak has
even more waterfalls. There's Curug
Pangeran and others.
The waterfall area is also great for
enjoying natural water and the
waterfalls in this region are very
beautiful.
Yeah.
Who is this from?
I've been there, Ustaz.
That's right. Thank you. Yeah, the
place mentioned, I have been, he
the name wasn't mentioned here.
Hm.
So the waterfalls mentioned earlier
uh, West Java is very rich when it
comes to waterfalls.
Yeah.
Everywhere has waterfalls. Starting
from the short ones to the tall ones,
they have them all.
If in Bogor, around here there’s
Curug Daun.
Hm. There's a waterfall, uh, earlier,
green waterfall
starting from leaving Bogor towards
Darmaga, you already find many
waterfalls. Shift a little towards
Sukabumi and you find more waterfalls.
Up to the Bintana area, you keep
finding more waterfalls. There's Curug
Ciburem.
Oh, Ciburum. There's Curug Cikuluwung.
Now. Where is Cikuluwung?
Uh, I don't know yet.
In Cikuluwung. Yesterday my child went
there but it didn't work out.
Cikuluwung. Okay. Mm. Uh Ustaz, what
about people whose budget is a bit
tight, how can they go on vacation, how
can we manage that?
It's possible, Ustaz.
Hm.
Very possible.
How?
Em, it depends on the direction, yeah.
What location you want to head to. For
example, if we want to vacation to
mountain panoramas.
Hm.
Well, the most economical way is if
you're heading to, for example, the
Bogor direction.
Yeah.
Use the commuter train (KRL).
Hm.
How much is it? Only 3,500. After that,
take public transport (angkot).
Oh.
Take the angkot. After that, continue
by walking. Ah, you have to be willing.
Okay, it's healthy, right.
I, I do that, Ustaz. So to those
waterfalls earlier, I walked there.
Okay, Pak Kus, for the next one.
Assalamualaikum, Pak Kus. How old is
Pak Kus now? I am 59 years old, almost
60. Where is a suitable place to travel
? This doesn't, please try to mention
the name, I don't even know if it's a
man or a woman. So it's hard to answer
this. It looks like a woman or a man
here? Oh, a man. A man?
Yes.
So how about for 60 years old
uh
that is suitable
that has God given a suitable place for
everything?
Hm.
Seriously?
Yeah. Suitable. I've done that at an
age above that. So if you want the
beach, that's fine,
hm.
If you want the mountains, that's fine.
Now, for the mountains, what needs to
be maintained
Don't get hypoxia.
Hmm. What?
A person who, um, experiences a drop in
blood oxygen levels.
Hm.
It usually happens at high altitudes.
Hmm. Hm.
We don't realize it when we go to the
peak. We tend to breathe more often.
Yeah.
That's to accumulate how to meet the
oxygen needs in the blood.
Okay, next from Prasetio in Batam. Um,
Mr. Kus, in Lampung, is there any
traveling in Lampung Province? Lampung
has some, yes.
There are many, sir. In Lampung, you
can go to the beaches if the
destination is for marine or sea
tourism.
There are many.
Hmm. From
or if it's towards, what's it called?
The mountains, towards Pringsewu, you
can go there.
Oh, I see.
Or towards the forest, in the direction
of, um, Sekayu, what is it called? Um,
yes, Sekayu, or whatever leads to
Palembang, there are many, sir.
Okay. From Sukabumi, in Ciletuh.
Ciletuh.
Ciletuh.
Yeah.
There's the geopark at Bukit Peninjauan
.
Overlook. Waterfalls facing directly
toward the ocean. Very beautiful.
Yes.
Local tourism around there is also good
.
I
doesn't have to be expensive. It just
depends on your intention. Bismillah.
Greetings from a Rasil listener in BSD.
Here's a suggestion: the Geopark at
Bukit Peninjauan. A good tourist spot.
Yes,
correct.
H
that's right, sir.
Um, there's Ms. who is this? Oh, you
can go diving in Pahawang in Lampung,
she says. There, giving us information.
Ms. Hestri in Cibinong is providing
information. Lampung has diving in
Pahawang. Wow. But you have to be able
to dive. Please, if you want to give
info about tourist attractions, that's
fine too. Go ahead.
That was interesting, the question
regarding what age one is allowed to
travel, right?
Doesn't it depend on interest rather
than age?
No, someone asked that because the
consideration was age, or age limits.
Yes. If I see, um, if I understand,
it's no longer about age limits.
Meaning, at whatever age,
if you have an interest, you just go,
right?
Even if you are younger. But having
physical limitations is a challenge in
itself.
Yeah.
For example, sorry, if you're obese,
it's hard to move. H
or, um, have high blood pressure, how
to manage it, and also consider if
you're heading to a place, um, suddenly
having health problems while traveling,
it must be dealt with quickly. Now, are
there places to handle it there, sir? H
that must be considered, Ustadz.
Hm. Assalamualaikum, Mr. Kus. Are
people who love traveling cheerful
people?
Um, I think
their hearts are cheerful.
Yes. Being grateful is part of
something that is taught, and it is
easy to say, but hard to practice,
Ustadz.
Hm. Okay, in Jakarta, there's Ancol,
that's a new attraction. not a museum,
what's it called, there's a floating
mosque being built there.
Yes.
I think Ancol really has many new
objects. And it has to innovate. H
is there this, what, religious object
too?
there is, yes, there is.
uh, a museum of, uh, the Prophet or
something like that.
Yeah. A monument.
but it's not finished yet. Not finished
yet, it seems, right?
Yes, maybe.
Okay.
I have never seen that one.
yeah. Not yet, because it hasn't opened
yet. Not opened yet. One interesting
thing, uh, but people rarely do it,
which is people don't really like going
to museums, Ustaz, right?
But what a pity.
So when going everywhere, if, if
traveling, uh, museums are definitely
low on the list of
of the sequence
of visit schedules, right? Even though,
wow, the message is very good.
Some people only go for photos, just
for Instagram content.
and that might just be photos at the
gate, but they never actually go in,
even though
it's to show that I've been here, right
?
Yes. Yeah.
For me, uh, I almost make it mandatory
to visit one new city I haven't visited
yet. I've never been there or have only
just been there
I definitely make it a target to visit
a museum.
I've been to a museum.
Many, Ustaz.
In Egypt. Which museum? Those Pharaoh
ones.
There are many.
I was just confused by the ones there
in Cairo, I mean.
In Cairo, right?
Yes. I was confused, which Pharaoh,
there were so many Pharaohs put in
there.
Yes, yes, yes.
So I was confused, which Pharaoh, which
the good one or the not-so-good one,
right?
Not the Pharaoh in the Quran, which one
is it?
Oh, right.
Yeah. If that one,
they say there's a separate one, you
pay extra, there's a separate place.
Oh, is that so? Uh, if, if, uh, which
one is meant in the Quran, or even the
one related to Prophet Musa, I am not
in a position to explain that
except by guessing. But clearly, in
Cairo, there are many relics that
should be seen because that is
the root of the culture.
Yes.
It's too old, Ustaz.
It has been there since 3,000 to 4,000
years BC.
It already existed.
He.
Now, how would we know about that
information if we don't go into the
museum?
H
at best, we only see the pyramids and
the sphinx.
The Nile River is also pleasant.
Is that all?
The Nile is very clean.
Yes.
Okay. Uh, is Kang Fajar done? Okay.
It's a pity we are limited by time. I
apologize for starting late because I
had to record. Thank you, Pak Kus.
Here is Pak Kus's phone number. If
anyone wants to ask about traveling,
also about garlic. What makes Pak Kus
strong when traveling?
Always consuming that, right?
Yes. Of course.
Garlic, right.
Since this item, uh
black garlic
was produced in 2016, right. I bring it
everywhere.
Oh. I bring it everywhere I go.
Okay. Alright.
It's a shame we only have enough time
to reach this point. This is the number
, Mr. Kus. 0816 80 2391 0816 802391.
Thank you once again, Mr. Kus. All
right.
Thank you, Ustaz. Muhammad Krishna
Fajar and Anis Muali bid you farewell.
Wabillahi taufik walhidayah.
Wasalamualaikum warahmatullahi
wabarakatuh. Oh