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Nur Agus Prasetyo, ST || Diet Keto dan Ancestral LifeStyle

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Welcome.
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious
, the Most Merciful. Peace be upon you,
and Allah's mercy and blessings. O
Allah, bestow peace upon our master
Muhammad and the family of our master
Muhammad. Praise be to God, we meet
again today, Thursday, the 27th of
Jumada al-Akhirah 1444 Hijri or January
19th, 2023. My phone isn't on silent
yet, let me silence it first. Okay. Are
you, your children, your neighbors, or
your family members suffering from an
incurable disease? Let's listen to this
program, let's hear the explanation
from Mas Tio, who explains that, praise
be to God, this isn't medicine, but a
way to return to our roots so that all
illnesses disappear. We have also
invited witnesses here who have already
recovered. There is Ms. Andi, who had
vitiligo. Then there is Ms. Angela from
Semarang. She used to be plump,
weighing over 80 kilograms. Now she is
at an ideal weight of 60 kg. We have
invited Mas Tio here, or Mas Agus, Nur
Agus Prasetyo. He was born in Jakarta
on August 5th, 19...He went to
elementary, middle, and high school in
Sumur Batu. So from that 'sumur'(well),
what should I call it? The ideas, the
ideas, the concepts about how to live a
healthy life emerged. Then he went to
college at STN and Trisakti, majoring
in electrical engineering. Peace be
upon you, Mas Tio, Ms. Jelan, Ms.
Andini.
And peace be upon you, and Allah's
mercy and blessings. You may have heard
for a while now about this Tio guy, the
keto-keto thing, where you don't eat
certain things but eat lots of meat and
offal instead of carbohydrates; we will
explain later what this keto concept is
actually about. We will take the title
"Keto Diet and Ancestral".
Ancestral.
Ancestral lifestyle, meaning the
lifestyle of our ancestors. Yes.
Lifestyle, the pattern of life of our
ances...
Lifestyle of our ancestors.
How they lived in the forest, like that
.
Yes.
Okay. Could you explain the origins of
this keto diet? Please, Mas Tio.
Thank you, Mas Krishna, for the
invitation. I hope what we discuss
today will be useful for many people.
Yes. For friends in Singapore, in
Batang.
Yes. In Singapore, in Batang, and so on
. I hope this makes, what is it?
It can open minds, as long as we are
willing to empty our cups first.
This isn't an overseas product, this is
Mas Tio's own discovery.
God willing. Indonesian.
So, I am actually the founder of a
community called Keto Fastosis. Yeah.
This community was initially on
WhatsApp and Facebook.
How many years has it been? I first
created the community on January 20th,
2016. So, actually, tomorrow, January
20th, is the anniversary of our Keto
Fastosis community.
Oh, January 27th, right?
January 20th.
January 20th.
Yes. Tomorrow; I started it in 2016, I
created it back then. But actually, I
have been following this lifestyle for
13 years. Yeah.
Because initially, I actually created
this ketofasosis for my own child.
Mas Alif's child?
What kind of illness?
My child happened to be born with a
condition called cerebral palsy, or
brain paralysis.
Cerebral palsy.
So, the left side of his brain did not
develop perfectly like other normal
children. Uh-huh.
So he experienced
uh, this is going to be a bit medical.
He experienced ventriculomegaly, where
the left ventricle in his brain was
enlarged. Uh-huh.
So what is called demyelination
occurred. Uh-huh.
So, the myelin layer, or the white
matter layer in his left brain, was
reduced,
so he wasn't like other normal children
when he was born. He experienced
uh, the right side of his body was weak
and he lost many normal gross
motor skills on his right side because
it was the left side of his brain that
was affected, and also he, uh, the
initial diagnoses were quite scary.
Uh-huh.
But that is where I started trying to
find out how to make my child's life
better in the future.
Uh-huh.
So,
well, now, long story short, his
condition is good now.
Thank God, my child was initially
diagnosed as unable to walk, speak, or
do anything, that his legs would bend
permanently, and so on. But thank God,
now my child can walk independently.
MasyaAllah. He can, the basics he can
do himself, and his cognitive skills
have improved.
Emotional?
His emotions...
Does he go to a normal school?
Uh, a normal school? Definitely not.
He goes to a special school, but his
motor skills, thank God, have improved
rapidly.
Until now, we keep making efforts, but
the progress, thank God, is good. So,
initially, Ketofasos was actually
because of him, because it started with
Alif.
That's when I started looking into,
well, in my journey of learning how to
thicken the myelin in Alif's brain.
Because Alif, my child, was diagnosed
with demyelination in his left brain.
So the myelin near the left ventricle
of his brain was thin. From the word "
myelin," I searched through various
journals and finally found a term
called "ketone."
Oh, ketone.
Now,
this ketone, well, 13 or 14 years ago,
there weren't many journals showing it
came from a keto diet. Uh-huh.
But it showed it came from starvation.
Uh-huh.
So, in studies of people who
experienced starvation and didn't eat
for 2-3 days,
ketones would appear in their blood.
Uh-huh.
That’s where I tried to figure out,
Are ketones good or bad?
Ketones are energy used by our brains.
Uh-huh.
So it’s good, right?
Yes. It’s good energy. And actually,
from what I studied, all babies born on
this earth, regardless of the diet of
the mother who carried them,
the baby, when born, is always in a
state called ketosis.
Hmm.
It means that what circulates in their
blood is called ketones.
Hm. These ketones come from the fat the
baby carries at birth. Fat, that's why
if
breast milk, you mean
aren't babies born with a six-pack or
are they chubby, Mas?
Six-pack.
Since when does a baby have a six-pack?
Oh, chubby.
That's why babies are so...Babies are
adorable because they have a lot of fat
, Mas.
Oh, is that so?
That's right. Babies don't have
six-packs.
If
my mistake
if we, now, can have six-packs. But if
a baby has a six-pack or a low weight,
that would be problematic, right?
Yes. Yes.
So, a healthy baby actually carries a
lot of fat on their body when born.
That is actually the most basic design,
Mas. So babies are equipped to face the
world when born
by carrying large fat reserves.
That’s their fuel tank. Uh-huh.
Now, that’s why a newborn baby's
brain, during its growth process, needs
ketones as fuel, including as raw
material for forming
their brain cells, developing for
neurogenesis, myelination, and so on.
Because these ketones are very
effective as both raw material and fuel
for the brain. That is what I have
learned all this time.
So, ketones, actually, ketones
themselves are something very normal
because humans are born in a state of
ketosis. So, even if a mother still
eats a high-carbohydrate diet, if she
is pregnant and the baby is born, if
you test the child's blood, it has
ketones.
Hm.
Because the basic human design is to be
born in a state of ketosis, so ketones
are normal. Even if the baby is a
neglected baby, they still have k-
the first time we come out of our
mother's womb.
Uh-huh. Whoever the mother is,
whoever the mother is, whatever she
eats, they are always in a state of
ketosis or have ketones in their blood
because that is the basic principle of
infant brain development from birth.
Now, that is how it looks
physiologically, ketosis is like that
before we go far into discussing the
keto diet.
Because the goal of the keto diet is
the same, to make ketones circulate in
our blood again, which come from the
fat in our own bodies. Okay.
Now, the difference is when a baby is
born
what fat is that? The fat they carry is
their basic capital to make ketones.
Ah, I see. Okay.
So, from that, the ketones I studied, I
made an effort for my child so that his
brain repair speed is fast while he is
still small, because he was diagnosed
with cerebral palsy.
I made the effort from the time Mas
Alif started eating; he was breastfed
even until he was 3 years old. Hm.
But when he started solid foods, what
he ate was only fish. Chicken eggs
blended with chicken feet broth or bone
broth. But what he uses now is chicken
feet broth made into porridge, that has
been his solid food until now. To this
very second, he has never had a single
carb, no rice, bread, or noodles.
up until 14 years old now.
H
That’s my effort for him. And I
personally have also been doing the
same for the last 13 years. So, I first
practiced it on my child, but I also
followed it myself.
Yeah. Yeah. Personally, I used to weigh
114 kilos.
Huh? I was 114 kilos.
It was 114 kilos.
Yes.
Really? No, there are no signs of it.
Well, here, because I can't show you, I
can't show you the photo. But maybe
later, if you want to look it up on
Facebook, you can. It’s there, it’s
there.
How much now?
Now I'm around 62 kilos, 6
62, 63 kilos.
You were 114 kilos before?
114 kilos.
114 kilos.
Yes. How much was Angela before?
She was perhaps as big as I was, 11
kilos. The difference is, for a woman,
Ms. Angela was in the 80s, right. I
used to be as big as Ms. Angela, but
the male version. But I was over 100,
Ms. Angela was probably 85 and already
quite large.
Thank God, by doing keto, now it's 60,
right? Yes, 60.
Yes. Oh,
because the core principle is this,
ketosis or the physiology of ketosis is
about enabling our body to recognize
the fat on our cheeks, belly, and
thighs again
as a fuel tank.
Hm.
That is actually a human's fuel tank.
So,
the way humans store energy is actually
in the form of fat. He
he.
Let's say, Mas Krishna, you want to eat
carbohydrates, protein, and fat,
whatever you eat. If it's too much,
what increases in you?
Weight. You get fatter.
You get fatter. When you get fatter,
what increases in the body?
Fat.
Fat. Try this: Mas Krishna, don't eat
fat, but eat bread without fat, rice
without fat, anything, just add a lot
of carbs.
Hm.
Would Mas Krishna get fat too?
No.
Really, if you eat rice, bread, noodles
even without fat, you won't get fat?
Liar.
I would get fat.
You’d get fat, yes.
Definitely, even without fat.
The point is you eat more than what you
need. Hm.
If you eat five plates a day, it will
inevitably go to your body's storage,
and it will be in the form of fat.
Isn't that right?
Even if what you eat is a source of
sugar.
Rice becomes sugar,
bread becomes sugar, yams become sugar,
but your body doesn't want your blood
sugar levels to be too high.
Okay.
It gets converted into fa
fat. That's the basis.
Going back to the ancestors, how did
that story go?
Okay. Okay. So let's shorten it. The
point is, ketones have been carried by
humans since birth, from the moment
they are born into this world. That's
the principle.
But why not eat carbohydrates?
It's normal now, everywhere there's
yams, potatoes, cassava,
steamed rice,
nasi uduk, fried rice, noodles, and so
on.
And honestly, all of that is halal,
right?
Yes, halal.
It's halal, right? Now, in this keto
thing, I never forbid any food.
Right? I'm sorry, in Islam, there are
foods that are forbidden. That's clear,
right?
That is already clear.
Yes.
But is there any food that, if we don't
eat it, we are sinning? Is there any
food that, if we eat it, we are sinning
because it's forbidden? Clearly, there
is.
If we choose not to eat it,
we will be sinning. Is there a law for
that?
There isn't, right?
There is. Well, there isn't.
If there's rice and we don't want to
eat it, do we sin?
Hm. No, right?
No.
I choose to just eat the fish. Not
eating the rice. Are we sinning?
No. No.
But if there is food that is clearly
forbidden, and I want to eat that, are
we sinning?
H.
Well, that's why I don't want to be
called someone who forbids food, but
someone who makes people choose their
food. He
this is a choice, yes.
Ketosis is a choice. It doesn't forbid
food. So, I don't forbid carbohydrates,
but I make people choose what's best
for themselves. So the basic principle
I teach is to return to the lifestyle
of our ancestors. The basic principle
of humans,
right? So God created the Earth, it
wasn't like it is now in the beginning.
He.
If now on the surface of this Earth,
even though it's God's Earth,
but on the surface of this Earth, this
room right now, who designed it, God or
humans?
Humans. The people selling rice or
fritters out front, who designed that,
God or humans?
Humans.
If God's original design for creating
the Earth as a shelter for the human
species and other species He created,
what does the truly original Earth look
like, for example?
Forests, rivers,
grasslands, deserts. That's the basic
design. So if we assume we go to
Kalimantan now and see the tropical
forest, is that still God's design?
Yes. Still.
If we are in Jakarta and see the
buildings, whose design is that? Humans
',
even though it's God's Earth.
Yes.
That's the greatness of God, creating
the basic design for the human species
to be able to live healthily. He
that basic has been taught from the
start. So God created humans justly.
God created humans perfectly. So that
the biological machine, let's just
consider humans a biological machine.
This creation of mine can live
healthily. They don't have to be as
knowledgeable as we are now. For
example,
we now have so much knowledge, it's far
, advanced, hospitals everywhere,
doctors are smart, research is
everywhere. If I may be honest, have
diseases decreased or increased?
Increased. Diseases have increased,
they've become more varied,
right? There's more that we need to
study to cure these diseases,
right? Yeah, so it seems like something
is wrong actually. The way God designed
humans to function durably, maintaining
health until the end of their lives as
destined,
is simple.
Hm.
Just like other species on Earth. The
basic asset provided from birth is
instinct.
Yeah.
Instinct is the instinct for human
interaction and how God's creations
relate to their environment on Earth.
For example, elephants, monkeys, and so
on live in the forest. The way they
live is by foraging for food in the
forest, right? Yes.
The way they behave follows their
instincts in the forest, right?
Yes. Yes.
If humans still lived in God’s nature
, which is the wild Earth, would we
also follow our instincts?
Yes.
Without knowing about nutrition, health
, or having any knowledge at all, we
would still be ignorant
on this Earth.
Now, this instinct actually provides
the pattern that should happen over 24
hours.
From morning, noon, afternoon, to night
. Back to morning, that 24-hour design
in the wild is already correct.
That's why before this show, Mas
Krishna, I gave you an analogy outside,
right?
Yes.
For example, if people ask what
Ketofastosis is, is it a keto diet?
They see that, oh, people in the
Ketofastosis community don't eat
carbohydrates. Oh, they're doing a keto
diet.
I mean, they start off thinking
Ketofastosis is a diet,
when it actually isn't. Hm.
What I teach is a lifestyle.
Yeah.
Eating patterns without carbohydrates
are just a part of it. It exists within
the 24-hour lifestyle, specifically in
the eating window. Not eating
carbohydrates,
but it doesn't stop there.
So, I don't want to diminish or narrow
down Ketofastosis by seeing it only as
a diet.
Because I want to show the actual
lifestyle.
Here's how,
I'll use an analogy. Just imagine, what
is Ketofastosis like? Maybe if I read
the protocol it sounds complicated,
but actually, without reading the
protocol, it can be done with a simple
analogy.
Okay.
If I may, I'd like to switch roles and
interview Mas Krishna, is that okay?
So that the analogy becomes clear. How
do I start Ketofastosis, how do I do it
?
Okay.
Don't try to study first, try to
imagine it,
understand it first, okay?
Okay, Mas Krishna.
Yes. Imagine we are now in the forest.
Yes.
Yeah, God's creation. Mas Krishna, just
imagine you only have one shirt and one
pair of pants.
Living in the forest.
Living in the forest.
The wilderness.
The wilderness.
It means you return to being the human
species originally created within God's
Earth.
And your interaction with this wild
Earth.
You would surely rely on instinct.
Yes.
The point is, if you live in the forest
, to stay alive, what must you do? Must
eat. Now, okay. Let's start the 24-hour
Ketofastosis lifestyle. We start in the
morning, the way humans start their day
.
when we wake up from our sleep.
If you, Mas Krishna, wake up in the
forest in the morning in your cave, for
example, you found a safe place to
sleep overnight.
You wake up in your cave. Your first
instinct if you want to stay alive is
to find food, right?
Finding food. I ask you, Mas, waking up
in a condition with the instinct to
find food. Then what will you do?
Hunt to find food.
Finding food, right? Now, to find food
in that cave, Mas, is there a fridge
you can open for food?
There isn't one.
Or something that can be heated in a
microwave? Something like food?
There isn't any.
That means every morning you wake up
with an empty stomach.
Yes.
And if you want to find food, do you
wait in front of the cave? Do you have
to walk, go out, wait for animals to
pass, or do you have to search?
Search, I have to search.
So, that means you, voluntarily,
you will move physically, indirectly
exercising without being told, right?
Yes.
You just want to move to find food.
Your basic instinct is to find food.
Ye
and there's no one telling you to fast,
you know. But you are looking for food
in a state where there's no food in
your stomach. It means you are
unintentionally, accidentally, not
eating. So you are fasting
moving to find food while in a fasting
state.
Okay, agreed. Now,
if you move to find food in the forest,
what is the most logical thing to look
for in this forest? There are many
leaves in the forest everywhere.
Yeah.
There are also many animals. But, but
if it's leaves, they stay in place, you
just pick them and eat them. Do leaves
taste good?
They don't taste good. Now, if you can
get an animal, and the animal is
roasted or boiled, is it good to eat?
It's delicious.
So, the basic human instinct is to find
food that is palatable, delicious on
the tongue.
So, you have to move to find it, right?
If it's a plant, you pull it and it
just surrenders. If it's an animal you
want to eat, does it just stay still or
run?
It runs.
So, do you try to chase it?
Yeah.
Using your wits, racking your brain.
How can I get to eat? So, I have to be
able to hunt it. H.
Right? So, that's the basic of you
moving to find food.
Yeah.
When you find food,
let's say at 12 o'clock you finally
find food, you get a deer. Yeah.
I ask, "Mas, do you eat the deer on the
spot?""No, you bring it home, right?"
You wouldn't dare eat it on the spot,
would you?
You wouldn't dare eat it. Unless you
were a lion. If you're a lion and get a
deer, you eat it on the spot, no one
will bother you.
Yeah.
But if you were a human, you wouldn't
dare eat right there in the forest, in
the wild, like, "Oh, I just got a deer,
I'll eat it right here." I don't care
about lions or wolves, I don't care.
That's impossible, right?
Because we're in the forest, and we're
not the kings of the jungle.
We're weak, aren't we? A weak species.
So, to be safe, you would surely try to
bring it home to a safe place before
consuming it.
Yes.
Agreed?
Okay. Agreed.
Let's assume we have another analogy.
You keep searching and searching. You
just got one deer, and you want to have
more food stored.
But in the forest, it's starting to get
late.
Hm.
If it's starting to get late, would you
insist on continuing to look for food,
or would you try to return?
Yes, return. Return.
That means you're prepared to give up,
right?
Yes.
Whatever your efforts were that day to
survive, like finding food, you just
let it go once it's late. Why? Because
if you're out too late, the risks are
high, right?
No flashlight. No flashlights here.
No flashlight, right?
Even with a torch, it's scary at night
in the forest, right? So, every
afternoon, your plan is to try to
return to a safe place, like your cave.
Agreed?
Now,
once you've returned to the cave, you
just enjoy your food, for example, the
deer you caught. Hm.
Okay. Now, when you eat that deer, do
you eat until you're full, or are you
afraid of getting fat? Ah, I eat until
I'm full.
You don't care, right?
No.
Your basic instinct is to eat until
you're full. That's a basic human
instinct.
In the past, humans weren't afraid of
getting fat.
Yes.
Right? Even though obesity is
everywhere now, and someone intends to
say, "I want to diet to get thin." But
basically, do humans actually reduce
their food intake while they are eating
? Also, there's no choosing, right? You
eat the organs too.
Everything you eat tastes good, right?
Right? So, if you've found that the
basic thing is eating animal protein.
After you're done eating, it's already
dark, after sunset.
Hm.
Right? It's dark, the sun has set. Do
you think at night you'd say, "I'll go
to sleep late while waiting for the
ball game." Hm.
Is there anything?
There's no ball game.
There's no football in the forest,
right? There's no World Cup, right?
In the forest. So when it's dark, you
don't have many activities, do you wait
until very late to sleep, or do you
sleep right after dusk?
Just sleep, you're already asleep.
You fall asleep right away, right?
Straight to sleep, right? That's why
you'll wake up in the morning again to
start the day over.
Well,
those are the basic principles of how
to do ketofastosis.
So, I haven't really told you what the
ketofastosis protocol is like yet. The
protocol is long. If you want to read
it, you can join the group, the FB
group, the Facebook group named
Ketofastosis.
But before you read it, pay attention
to this analogy. Uh-huh.
The five basic principles or five
pillars of ketofastosis is fasting
starting from the morning.
Meaning
if we live in the modern world where
food is abundant, but we want to live
like in the early days when we were
still in the wild, when food is
available, we don't eat right away.
That means fasting.
If in the jungle, sir.
Because there's no food, you aren't
fasting. What I teach is that because
here there is too much food everywhere,
we try to abstain from food first.
Meaning we intentionally fast.
Uh-huh.
Since the morning.
Yes.
Now, what we do while fasting in the
jungle, I bring that back, sir. If in
the jungle, when you haven't eaten, do
you just sit still, act lazy, or move
to find food?
Move. Move to find food. The second
pillar of fasting is moving.
Moving.
When we don't eat, it doesn't mean we
just laze around. For example, "Oh,
during Ramadan, I don't want to get too
tired. Afraid of getting hungry too
soon." That's just conditioning. But
that's not true.
We must move from the morning, be
physically active, like exercising,
even in a fasting state, just like you
in the jungle. Yeah.
Now, the third one is relaxing.
This is the third pillar.
Uh-huh.
Let me use an analogy, sir. Sir, if you
are striving to find food in the jungle
,
in the evening, do you surrender?
I surrender.
You wouldn't dare continue, right?
No.
That means you are not insistent, you
don't force yourself to keep trying.
Yes.
You surrender and go back home, back to
your cave. Uh-huh.
Now, in the modern world we live in now
, to survive, what must we do, sir? To
relax.
This is relaxing. But what we are
looking for on this modern earth,
are we looking for food or money?
Money, right?
Yeah, looking for money.
Even though our basic principle is
money for food, we have shifted the
position of food to money. Uh-huh.
Now, if you were still truly living in
the jungle, searching for food, your
efforts would definitely stop in the
evening because you can't search for
food until night, right? Because you
weren't designed as a human to hunt at
night.
But since it has turned into the form
of money, can you search for it until
night?
Hm.
Yes. Yes. Uh-huh.
So, in the end, humans forget the basic
essence of striving, working, and
providing for themselves.
Because we chase money, and that money
occupies our thoughts until night, from
debts, receivables, businesses, to how
to make money, we end up carrying our
problems into the night.
Yeah. Yeah.
Our sleep becomes disrupted. Even
though the basic design of a human is
to stop and start slowing down their
efforts once it's late afternoon.
That’s why the interval from the
Subuh prayer to the Zuhur prayer is
long,
it's long because we are given time for
effort. Go ahead and exert effort on
earth. Work on this earth. But as the
interval from Asr to Maghrib, and
Maghrib to Isha draws closer, doesn't
it get darker and closer?
Yeah.
It means we are told to brake, brake,
and brake. Because in every prayer, we
strive to relax, release, and reflect
on ourselves. Because the essence of
prayer is to surrender yourself.
Yeah.
Forget all your problems once you pray.
Yes.
Right? Right? If we meet the president,
we forget our problems, so why do we
think about our problems when we pray?
Yeah.
That's wrong. It means prayer should
make a person surrender, be sincere,
and let their problems go. And that is
done with the short intervals of Asr,
Maghrib, and Isha. What does that mean?
Forget it. Forget it. Forget it.
Yeah.
But is it true that we can forget all
our problems at night now? We can. We
can't.
There is something wrong with us.
Even though we were designed so that
the evening is the time for us to
surrender again.
That becomes the third pillar, which is
relaxing. When it’s late afternoon,
put on the brakes because you will soon
rest to sleep.
The fourth is feeding, or eating. Yeah.
Now, for example, when you were in the
forest and you had surrendered in the
evening, you brought the deer home. Did
you eat the deer?
Eaten.
Now, was what you ate free from
carbohydrates?
Free.
Yeah. Because what you ate was an
animal source, as found in the forest.
Now,
in the modern era, is there a variety?
Yes, a variety.
Yams, cassava, corn, there is also
chicken, fish, eggs, and so on.
Remember, Ketovastosis does not forbid
them.
But because I teach a lifestyle like
the one in the forest, Ah, I choose to
eat like I'm in the forest. Animal
sources. I choose to eat chicken, eat
eggs, eat meat. There is rice, bread,
noodles, those are all halal. But I
don't sin if I don't eat them. I choose
to eat only the animal sources.
Yes, so remember once again,
Ketovastosis never forbids something
that isn't forbidden,
but it teaches people to choose as if
we were in the forest.
Agreed? Yeah.
Now, after we eat, and you mentioned
you didn't want to do any diets because
you wanted to survive in the forest,
in Ketovastosis, when it's your eating
window and it's time to eat, we eat
until full and stop, right? Don't
overeat.
Full, then stop.
What is the effect after eating until
full? What happens? Drowsiness, yeah.
That is why eating a full meal at the
end of the day makes us sleepy shortly
after Isha and makes it easy to fall
asleep. And ah, there’s still soccer,
what else? I want to promote a
lifestyle like the one in the wild.
So the fifth pillar is sleeping.
H
Sleep.
Sleep on time. My advice is to sleep
after Isha or at least before 8:00 PM.
That is the key so we can get 7–8
hours of sleep until dawn.
What if I want to perform Tahajud in
the middle of the night, Mas? You can
sleep after Isha without needing to
check the time. When you wake up, pray
Tahajud. When you wake up, whether
it’s to go to the bathroom or to pray
Tahajud, you don't need to look at the
clock. Because why? If we sleep and
wake up, then look at the clock, the
next sleep won't be as deep as before
you knew the time. H. "Oh, it's only
11:00 PM.""Oh, it's still..." It's not
good to know the time, Mas. It's a
disturbance; even though humans were
designed for the wild, at night, humans
were never meant to know the time. He.
In the morning to afternoon, the sun
moves from...
from east to west.
We know the time is morning, midday,
afternoon.
But when it's night,
we look at the moon, does the moon move
, Mas? From from there.
The moon moves based on the lunar cycle
,
but on the same night, the moon stays
in the same place.
From the moment it's visible until
morning. Right?
Yes.
So, the human design initially, before
we had clocks, was that humans didn't
know the time. He.
So if you wake up at night, don't look
at the clock. Just surrender, it's
still dark, go back to sleep. But what
if I'm afraid of oversleeping? For
example, if you are far from the mosque
and can't hear the Fajr adhan, because
there is technology, set your phone,
press the alarm for Fajr, but put it
near your ear, face down in your room.
So we wake up to pray or use the
bathroom without looking or knowing the
time. But if it makes a sound, we wake
up.
He.
Use technology but don't look at the
time.
Yeah. H
That is the key. So there are five
pillars in KF. Since morning, we don't
eat breakfast right away, we move
actively while fasting, and we relax at
the right time. Don't force yourself to
think about all your problems and
efforts until night. Just stop in the
evening. Prepare to eat a full meal at
the end of the day. Then sleep on time.
Don't stay up late. That is the key to
restoring the harmony of the 24-hour
lifestyle cycle, which we call the
human circadian rhythm. There is a lot
of research on this circadian rhythm
now. Once the circadian rhythm is
disturbed, our illnesses appear. Hm.
Okay, brothers, we are still talking
with Mas Tio. He is the founder of
Ketoastosis. which, thank God, has
already helped overcome or heal various
kinds of diseases.
God willing, it helps as an effort.
Helps as an effort for various kinds of
diseases. Like, for example, here is
Mbak Angela. Angela.
Yes.
What were you suffering from, were you
overweight? I used to be obese and had
been taking hypertension medication for
about 2 years. I also had a uterine
fibroid and had surgery for it. But in
the early days when I started KF, I had
a hysterectomy and that, uh,
I actually forgot about that condition,
but I focused more on my hypertension.
That's it. Because according to doctors
, hypertension, diabetes, and heart
medications must be taken until our
contract with God expires.
Like that.
How do you feel now, are you slimmer?
Honestly, I don't focus on my body
because everything is a process.
I'm not someone who is diligent about
weighing myself, and praise God, my
stamina is indeed better,
my mood is better.
I used to be a very short-tempered
person.
Oh, I see.
Yes. And if you look at the progress in
health improvement, it is there.
Like that. So, honestly, I never set a
target while doing KF.
I just enjoy it because I was reckless
back then.
You know. So, recklessness requires a
process, and health improvement also
requires a process.
Okay. Now, as for Mbak Andi, what were
you suffering from and what did you
feel after joining keto
fastosis?
Fastosis. So, the big issue visible on
the surface was my autoimmune vitiligo,
Mas. I see.
There are many issues inside that
aren't obvious. Thank God, it's been 6
years,
I've been doing KF for 6 years. At
first, the vitiligo was on my face,
all over,
almost all of it.
Now, thank God, it's just around
my nose. I see.
And as for what's seen on the face, the
rest of my body also underwent natural
repigmentation.
And usually, vitiligo treatment is said
to be incurable, right, Mas?
But thank God, by doing Ketofastosis,
I've become human again. That's what I
say.
Masyaallah.
Yeah. Back to being human again. Back
to being a servant of God. Not
forgetting to be a servant of God
anymore. That my autoimmune is under
control
and it's naturally repigmenting. That's
rare, Mas, even in the medical world
for patients.
Okay.
Alright, Sir. We will also hear the
story from Mr. Taifudin Siregar. Mas
Anis, please contact Mr. Taifudin
Siregar. He is currently in Pekalongan
waiting for his daughter-in-law who is
giving birth. Masyaallah.
Okay. I will read out the mobile number
of Mas Tio, the founder of Ketofastosis
. Please write down the number. Please
prepare a pen and paper. His name is
Mas Tio. Mas Tio. His full name is Nur
Agus Prasetyo. The founder of Keto
Fastosis. Here is the number: 0811 then
19 66 20 0811 19 6620 081196620. If you
perhaps want to consult about a disease
you are suffering from, and how to
overcome it even if you've seen a
doctor, later with...
It will be answered, just be patient.
Yes, it will be answered, but you need
patience. Uh, Mas Andi, uh, has Mas
Anis spoken yet? Not yet. Okay. Uh, so
what illnesses have been overcome so
far? Alhamdulillah. Uh, so, in the
beginning, before the community was
even formed...
Mas, who was the one with leukemia? Who
had leukemia?
Oh, so that was the first child under
15 years old who joined Ketofastosis;
at that time he was around 7 years old.
His name is Syamil.
Yeah.
He suffered from leukemia. Yeah.
Well, the leukemia he faced was, if I
recall, acute lymphoblastic leukemia,
ALL.
Okay. Alright, we are now connected
with Mr. Tafifuddin Siregar.
Assalamu'alaikum, Mr. Siregar.
Wa'alaikumussalam.
Wa'alaikumussalam warahmatullahi
wabarakatuh.
Well, mashallah, Mas Tio is already
here in the studio.
Yes.
Uh, how is your daughter-in-law? Has
she given birth yet?
Not yet, just waiting for the day.
Okay. Alright. Uh, Mr. Tegal, sir, not
in Pekalongan, but in Tegal.
Oh, in Tegal.
Okay. Okay. My mistake, my mistake.
Okay. Mr. Siregar, can you tell us what
illness you suffered from? And what
happened after joining, uh,
Ketofastosis? Can you tell us? Please
go ahead.
Yes, alhamdulillah, I was invited to
the Ketofastosis group by my friend
from Malang, named Teguh Tafiarno. But
at that time, I read it and thought, "
Why are all these people here so fat?"
I never accepted it. I never accepted
that group. Until one time, I read a
post by someone who, uh, uh, they were
diabetic and had already stopped their
medication.
Wow.
I asked myself, is it true that
diabetes can be managed off medication?
Alhamdulillah, after reading that, I
immediately accepted the group, and I
told my wife, "I want to eat like this,
like this, like this." She prepared it
immediately. Uh, and alhamdulillah, uh,
3 days later, my blood sugar, which was
around 300, dropped straight to 125.
Hm.
With that, I stopped immediately. At
that time, I was already on insulin.
Hm.
I was using insulin, and when the
doctor asked how much insulin I was
taking...I said 50 units. The doctor
was shocked.
Hm. "Where did your insulin go, sir?"
At that time, my weight was 130 kilos,
sir.
Hm. And now?
Well, so now, alhamdulillah, uh, 110.
Yeah.
Alhamdulillah. In a period of 5 months.
But, uh, everything is a process, right
? Alhamdulillah. Uh, uh, as that went
on, as this diabetes journey progressed
, I also, initially, maybe Mr. Krishna
or Mr. Iksan know that I once had
cancer. Yeah.
And after the cancer, there was heart
ring insertion. After the heart ring
insertion, my kidney function became
problematic. Now, during the heart ring
insertion, my legs, left and right,
were swollen.
Hm.
By following this keto, alhamdulillah,
in 1 week, it all went down. Hm.
To reduce the swelling in my legs, I
previously had to take a medication
called Lasix. And if you take that
Lasix medicine, every 5 or 10 minutes
you have to urinate. Oh, it was very
troublesome.
Yes. Yeah.
And thank God, by following this
lifestyle, it went down immediately and
has stayed down until now.
Okay. How about your heart? The heart.
My heart, thank God, I am still taking
heart medication. But for my kidney
function, I'm no longer taking kidney
medicine.
Hm.
Although it’s still there, I just
followed Mas Rio's advice to just stop
for now. I said okay, I stopped, and
for the diabetes and kidney meds, I
have stopped them.
H
Thank God.
So, by changing your diet, what do you
eat now? Do you still eat rice? No, no
more rice.
Just animal products now.
Huh?
Just animal products.
Oh, animal products only. So no rice,
no bread,
no noodles, no flour-based foods
anymore?
Not anymore, thank God.
So what do you eat on a daily basis?
Uh, fish, chicken, meat, beef, goat,
eggs,
that's it.
Isn't that more expensive? Is the cost
of living higher?
Yeah, it's more expensive. But it's
even more expensive if we keep taking
medicine. How about your energy? Do you
feel fresher?
Thank God, it's better; you know
yourself that my house to the mosque is
not far, just 400 meters. Yeah.
From my house to the mosque, I used to
have to take the car.
Oh.
Now I can walk to the mosque, and on
the way back, I walk around the complex
a few times,
at Taman Laguna. Yes. H. Masyaallah.
Thank God. Thank God.
What is your advice, Mr. Siregar, for
those who haven't tried keto yet?
Well, my advice is just give it a try;
there's nothing to lose.
There's no medicine involved, just
changing your diet.
In this keto, in KF, there are no
products sold, unlike other programs,
those herbal things or whatever they're
called. They are selling products. Here
, there are no products for sale.
We only change our diet and lifestyle,
that's it. Okay.
So if it doesn't suit you, and you want
to go back, feel free. But if it suits
you, why not continue?
If it brings benefits to ourselves.
Amen.
Exactly.
Your worship is also more consistent
now, right?
Thank God. Thank God. Are you still
praying while sitting in a chair?
For now, yes, because my knees and what
do you call it? My legs still, I don't
know, there's still some trouble with
the right leg.
Yeah.
But hopefully, once the body weight
goes down, hopefully, this will also go
away. Yeah.
How long have you been doing keto?
5 months.
Just 5 months, then. Only 5 months and
I already feel this change. I'm no
longer taking medicine
for, uh, what is it, diabetes anymore.
Are you off insulin?
How is it?
I'm no longer on insulin.
Insulin is gone. I sold it immediately,
insya-used the money to buy meat.
One of the buyers was Pak Isan's
younger sibling.
My weight, which was 130, is now 110.
God willing, eventually it will be even
better.
Okay. Good. Thank you, Pak Siregar, for
the testimony.
Thank you. You're welcome.
Uh, greetings to our friends in Tegal,
yes. Hopefully, this becomes an effort,
at least for those in my circle
there. There is Pak Ihsan, there is
Habib Husein, who
has had many illnesses, there is,
what's his name? Our Ustaz, Hari Nurdi.
Those are the ones in my circle.
Hopefully, if I am healthy, others can
also, hopefully, follow and be healthy
together, you know.
Amen. Okay.
Amen. Amen. Please pray for me, Sir.
Okay. There are many incoming questions
here. Thank you, Sir. Pak Ska. Peace be
upon you.
You're welcome. You're welcome.
Okay. Peace be upon you. And His
blessings.
Uh, from Ibu Hestri in Cibinong.
Someone who used to be—uh, Mas Kisam,
may I leave a question for Mas Tio? You
may. Someone who used to be, whose
weight was over, thank God after
reducing rice, my weight dropped from
63 kg to 53, but the skin became
wrinkled like an old person's. What I
want to ask is, how can I lose weight
without the skin wrinkling? Yes, that
is the reason why I said earlier that I
don't teach a diet; I teach a lifestyle
. Mas, do you remember
what must be done in the morning?
Moving,
fasting, and moving.
Yeah.
So, when we lose fat, because of the
fat, for example, we are on a diet,
maybe she was just reducing rice,
she clearly experienced fat loss in her
body. Hm.
But she did not experience tightening
or muscle gain.
Hm.
That's why what needs to be paid
attention to is active movement in the
morning or exercising. Because what
tightens it is
movement
and exercise.
Yeah.
For example, we are physically active,
or maybe she starts doing gymnastics,
or my advice is strength training
to increase muscle mass, thus
tightening back the skin that was
previously loose from losing fat.
That's it.
So the muscles must be tightened so the
skin follows and tightens. So don't
just pay attention to diet patterns,
but the 24-hour lifestyle. Sleep should
also be watched. Don't stay up late
anymore.
Stress, stress management in the
afternoon should be watched. Once it's
Asr, start slowing down. After Maghrib,
forget all problems. Prepare yourself
to sleep later after Isha. That is the
key to a healthy lifestyle.
Okay, Mas Tio, in ketosis, are we
allowed to eat organ meats? So I return
it again, just like my analogy, I ask
it back. Now I return that question to
Mas Krishna.
Hm.
Think of it like you're hunting for a
chicken in the woods, Mas Krishna.
What part do you eat, Mas Krishna? The
chicken breast, with the skin removed.
But if you only eat the chicken breast,
what does it taste like? Bland. What's
the word for "bland" again?
Tasteless.
Bland.
Bland, right?
Bland. Yeah.
To be honest, Mas Krishna, even if you
don't know anything about health or
science, if you had a choice, wouldn't
you naturally pick the part that tastes
savory?
The savory part, yeah.
It’s delicious. So, if you just
grilled a chicken and it has innards
and skin, would you eat them or throw
them away?
Of course, I’d eat the innards.
Why eat them?
They’re good.
So, don't fight your basic human
instinct when eating animal products.
Whatever tastes good on your tongue,
that's what you should eat. Because
even though many people now say, "Oh,
don't have high fat, don't eat innards.
" I don't blame them as long as they're
still eating carbohydrates. So if
someone is still eating rice, bread,
noodles, or flour-based foods,
having high fat intake really isn't
good, Mas. If they are still eating
rice and bread, then follow the modern
rules—don't eat high fat. Hm.
Because they eat rice and bread, but
once you stop eating carbohydrates and
only eat the animal products, the
principle is the same as being in the
woods. Mas, if you caught a chicken,
would you throw away all the innards
and skin, or would you eat it all until
you're full?
Right, that’s the principle. So, what
allows us to eat anything from an
animal is the fact that we've stopped
eating carbohydrates. But one piece of
advice, Mas. Let me add this. The
difference now compared to the woods is
how we cook the chicken we catch. In
the woods, we can only grill it. But
now, Mas, I can fry it, I can boil it,
fry it with coconut milk,
add coconut milk,
add butter, or whatever; there are so
many ways to cook it. But since you're
avoiding carbohydrates, it means you're
not cooking with flour, sweet soy sauce
, or sugar, right?
Yes.
Now,
you don't need to overdo it with fat
outside of the animal itself. For
example, does chicken already have fat,
Mas?
Yes, it does.
Does fish have fat? It
does.
Does meat have fat? It does.
So,
eating all of that is perfectly fine,
Mas. Yeah.
What you don't need to overdo is, say,
cooking with coconut milk and thinking,
"Ah, I want extra coconut milk." Or, "
I'm cooking with oil, let me add extra
oil."
That's unnecessary. So, don't avoid the
natural fats inherent in the meat, but
don't go overboard with cooking fats
like oil, butter, heavy cream, or any
other added fats. Using them just to
add flavor to the food is fine, but
there's no need to overdo it. But don't
avoid the natural fat that comes with
it. So if you want to eat chicken in
coconut milk, that's fine, but you
don't need to drink up all the coconut
milk. You've already got the taste of
the coconut milk, and you eat all the
chicken. Whether it's the innards or
the wings, eat all of it, but there’s
no need to go overboard with the added
fat. Like, oh, you want to make the
skin, what about the skin?
Eat it all, the skin comes with the
animal.
Yeah.
Yes, the innards come with the animal.
But what about the cooking oil?
No.
The coconut milk?
No.
The butter?
No.
Is it necessary to be excessive?
It is not necessary.
Now, that’s where people sometimes
say, "Oh, because I’m off carbs, I
can have high fat.""Ah, let me add more
coconut milk, let me add more oil."
That is not necessary. So we should eat
like we're in the wild; the difference
in modern times is that we can make it
taste better, but we don't need excess
fat.
Yeah.
Right? Now, if you were truly sitting
in the forest, could you cook with
coconut milk?
You couldn't.
Could you use cooking oil?
You couldn't.
But would you still get fat?
Yes.
From where? From the animal, not
the animal.
Now, that is the basic principle of
ketosis.
Yeah.
You stay in ketosis without needing
high levels of fat from your food or
the cooking process. But if you want to
eat the innards, that's fine. Okay,
next from Buya Abu Aska. How do I fix a
protruding belly, Mas Tio? And is a
toothache also caused by digestion or
by eating whatever comes along? Are
these questions from the same person?
Yes. From Buya Aska.
Oh, so he is experiencing toothaches
and a protruding belly.
Actually, my main concern is the first
one, the protruding belly. Yeah.
If your belly is protruding, it
signifies that you have metabolic
syndrome. Yeah.
The toothache is just one of the
symptoms. Whether it's a toothache,
aches and pains, or not sleeping well,
it’s because your lifestyle is wrong.
It is shown by the appearance, which is
a protruding belly. Seriously, a
protruding belly is metabolic syndrome.
Right?
Yes, exactly. So, if metabolic issues
are clear, God willing, once you follow
the ketofastosis lifestyle I teach, the
first thing to go—even if you're
quite large, like Mas Tafib—before
the fat on your cheeks, belly, or
thighs starts to disappear, the first
thing to deflate is the protruding
belly. Because that belly fat is called
visceral fat, and it carries many risks
.
Primarily, it can cause fatty liver.
Yes, it can cause heart, cardiovascular
, or kidney problems.
So if your belly is already protruding,
it's a sign that you have insulin
resistance. Insulin resistance or
metabolic syndrome. My advice is to
change your lifestyle immediately. I'm
not just saying change your diet
immediately. Yeah.
So yes, change your diet, but don't
stop there. Change your 24-hour
lifestyle from morning until the next
morning.
Fasting, moving, relaxing, feeding,
sleeping. All five pillars are being
done.
Okay.
Now, that is the key.
Next, from Bunda Rido in Depok. Peace
be upon you, Mas Tio. I cannot go on a
diet, but I regularly do brisk walking
for at least 30 minutes a day. Now I've
added 50 minutes of home exercise, but
I still can't diet because I can't
avoid food. My weight has only dropped
9 kilos in 1 year. Especially since I
love carbs, bread, noodles, spaghetti.
How do I change my eating pattern to
reduce carbohydrate consumption? Height
160, weight 64 kg.
Easy. Now I'll make an analogy. Maybe
not all of us fast on Mondays and
Thursdays. Maybe not all of us, yes.
But for Muslims, when Ramadan arrives,
isn't it mandatory to fast for one full
month?
It is mandatory.
How is it? Oh, Ramadan is mandatory.
Of course it's mandatory. Even if one
might not fast on Mondays and Thursdays
usually. Agreed?
Yes.
Now,
I want to turn the question back to her
. Maybe I'll just call her "Mbak".
Yes.
Perhaps, Mbak has been eating carbs for
as long as she can remember since she
was a child, right? How do you change
your lifestyle? Easy. If Mbak, every
year maybe—I'm not saying she doesn't
do sunnah fasting. Other people might
not fast on Mondays and Thursdays. But
once Ramadan starts, they definitely
fast. Try starting ketofastosis with
the intention of just trying it for one
month or even just three weeks.
Hmm.
Commit to three weeks of not eating
carbohydrates. Maybe during Ramadan
fasting, we don't eat or drink from
morning until evening.
This is easier. You can drink in the
morning if you aren't thirsty, and you
can eat at noon. But I'm just asking
you not to eat carbs. For example, if
she is a carb lover. Like rice, noodles
, and so on. And she eats them with
side dishes like fish, eggs, chicken.
This time, try to persist for just 3 or
4 weeks first. Don't eat rice, bread,
or noodles; just eat the side dishes.
What if I'm not full, Mas?
Keep adding more until you feel full if
necessary. He.
So there is no need, there is no
feeling of hunger, there is nothing to
fear, no hunger, and no thirst.
Maybe during Ramadan we feel hunger and
thirst, but it's mandatory, right?
Just treat it as starting with the same
intention. I want to obligate myself to
try changing my lifestyle for one month
or three weeks. Don't set out to change
your lifestyle for too long at first.
Intend for just 3 to 4 weeks first.
After that, if we really want to
continue, go ahead. But if we intend to
change our lifestyle without any time
limit, like "I don't want to eat carbs
from now on.""Ah, I just want to be
healthier." But because there's no time
limit, on average, once the carb
cravings hit on the third or fourth day
, or the first week, people think, "Ah,
I'll just stop the diet and eat again."
That's what happens when you don't have
a time limit. So, my initial advice is
to start following this ketovasos
lifestyle. Set your intention for just
3 to 4 weeks.
Hm. So, if in the middle of those first
3 days they're like, "Oh, I really want
that, looking at noodles makes me drool
, looking at bread makes me drool, I
can't take it anymore." Just intend it
like this: "It won't be for long anyway
."
A month, just a month, like Ramadan; I
can eat that later if I really can't
handle it. He.
Or, "In 3 weeks I can eat that again."
H.
So, by having the thought that you can
stop later, it strengthens us to keep
going. He.
But look at what happens later when
someone hasn't eaten carbohydrates for
3 weeks. It turns out, as can be proven
later,
whether they want to go back to eating
rice or continue. On average, they say,
"I'll continue, Mas." Why? Don't you
want rice anymore? Not like at the
beginning before trying it. Because if
you haven't tried it, you don't know
yet; you still imagine you won't be
able to let go of rice and bread, but
after doing it, it turns out it's not
that hard.
Okay, from Susi, "Mas Tio, I want to
ask about drinks, what about them?" Are
we allowed to drink syrup, honey,
coffee? Can we drink them? So, earlier
we talked about food, which was
animal-based sources. Now,
let's talk about
drinks.
Drinks. If we avoid carbohydrates,
what's the goal, Mas? Why don't we eat
rice, bread, noodles, and so on?
Because those are just names of foods.
Carbohydrates are a food group. But
what actually enters our body isn't the
name of the food. What enters the blood
all becomes su-
sugar.
When rice is eaten, what does it become
?
Sugar.
What does bread become when eaten?
Sugar.
Let's say brown rice, that's good.
He.
What does it become?
Sugar too,
just a bit less, right?
A little. Well.
Well. But the point is it becomes sugar
, right. Now, the condition for us to
reach ketosis is that we no longer
provide food intake that gives sugar to
our bodies. Then asked, "If I drink
syrup, do you think we're consuming
sugar?"
Sugar. Yes.
So, don't keep asking, "Can I eat this
or not?" Because why? Are there
thousands of food names, Mas?
Yes, many. Gosh.
But there are only three types that
enter our body.
He.
Glucose or sugar, protein,
hm. amino acids, and fat fatty acids;
those three. So with modern technology
like Google, we can just search, "What
is the carbohydrate content of syrup?"
Wow, high. It can be resolved, right?
Which is faster, waiting for me to
reply on WhatsApp or searching on
Google? Which is faster, Mas?
Yes, Google.
Don't let there be syrup when doing
ketosis later. Hold on, let me ask Tio
first. I have hundreds of private
messages. Don't let that happen. Become
independent. Basically, we want low
carbohydrates. So we search on Google
for food A and ask how many carbs it
has. My suggestion is that we can eat
anything if it's below 10g per 100g
weight.
H.
So it's below 10%of the food's weight.
For example, it has 5g, 6g of carbs out
of how much? Out of 100g. That means 5
or 6%, which is low carb. But if the
carb content is...
100g of the food in question, and the
nutrition facts say 50g...that's 50%,
clearly that won't do.
So if a food is called low carb, it
means...
under 10%of its own weight.
H. He.
So if it's 100g, the range is between 0
and 9, or exactly 10.
Is honey and black coffee allowed?
Is black coffee high in carbs, Tio?
Uh, it's low, none.
Yeah? So it's allowed?
Allowed. Coffee.
Tea without sugar?
Is it allowed?
But the point is this. The point is we
don't...but if I drink it, does it mean
I'll never taste anything sweet? He.
While I'm used to drinking sweet things
.
Well,
it is hard to quit sweetness. But in
the modern world, sweetness can be
tricked or substituted. If you were in
the jungle, finding sweetness is hard,
right?
He.
There's no sugar, right? But in the
modern world, if we want to learn to
quit sugar, it's not easy, is it? He.
Or we want to trick it. Well, there are
examples. For instance, we can use
substitute products for sweeteners. I
don't want to mention brands, but look
for zero calories. H.
Examples are those from stevia leaves,
or examples from sucralose or
erythritol, those are zero-calorie
sweetener ingredients. Sweet on the
tongue, but no sugar enters the body.
Is stevia allowed?
Yes. The brand doesn't matter.
But the point is, ensure the sweetener
substitute doesn't give sugar to the
body, just the sweet taste on the
tongue.
That's if you want sweetness. Not by
eating anything that naturally provides
sweetness, as that's definitely su...
sugar.
Ng. Tio, they said you should only stay
until 12:00.
Because many are asking.
Okay. Uh. Can I have your phone number,
Tio? Okay, I will read out Tio's phone
number again. He is the founder of Keto
Pastosis. Please note the number: 0811.
Then 19. 66. 20. 08119. 19 6620. 08119.
6620. Tio or Nur Agus Prasetyo, his
nickname is Tio. Uh. Uh, Mas Tio, is
following this keto session just for a
while or for a lifetime?
For me personally, I'll just keep doing
it. On average, how long have you been
doing it, Mas Tio? Personally, I've
been doing it for 13 years, and my
child has done it since birth.
My child is 14 years old now and has
never eaten carbohydrates since birth.
And people ask, "Mas Tio, don't you
want to eat carbohydrates again?" I say
this,
eat carbohydrates again? I absolutely
won't look back after achieving this
health. Because why? I'm energetic from
the morning and don't get hungry
quickly.
Yeah.
Even though I last ate after Maghrib
yesterday and haven't eaten until now,
it's not a problem. Yeah.
And I usually break my fast not at noon
, but later in the afternoon or at
Maghrib, that's when I eat. On average,
I eat once a day. And for me, I don't
lose energy. Alhamdulillah. God willing
, and this isn't me being arrogant. I
rarely get sick,
even things like the flu are rare.
Hmm.
I sleep well; right after Isha, I go to
sleep. Yeah, I wake up once or twice at
most, and I wake up for Subh on time.
Because now I wake up at 3:30 on
average.
It feels very refreshing. And I don't
want to lose all that just because
I don't crave bread, noodles, or eggs.
Sorry, I don't want to eat bread,
noodles, or corn anymore. Does Mas Tio
want to do this for the rest of your
life? My personal answer is yes. I
don't feel burdened. What I eat isn't a
diet. I'm not eating things that aren't
good. I eat good food. I eat fish, eggs
, chicken, and meat. Is it tasty, Mas?
It's tasty.
Okay. Now, if you were sick and I told
you to go on a diet, to eat brown rice,
vegetables, and boiled meat. Is that
tasty?
Honestly, be honest. Brown rice?
Uh, it depends on my life.
Boiled fish. Can't use much salt.
Oh, it's bland. Bland.
I ask you, Mas, would you want that for
the rest of your life?
No.
Exactly, Mas. I wouldn't want it. But
if I ask you, and you ask me back, "Mas
Tio, do you want to eat fish, eggs,
chicken, meat—all animal sources?"
I'd want to do it for life because it's
tasty.
I don't crave rice, bread, or noodles.
Because why? Eating meat is tasty.
If you add rice, it's tastier.
Yeah.
For me, eating well is enough. There's
no need to eat "tastier." And I can do
this for a lifetime because I value my
health.
Okay. From Amina, Alhamdulillah, thanks
for the insight. Uh, Mas Tio, is there
any similarity between the keto
lifestyle and the OCD diet created by
Deddy Corbuzier? I don't study other
diets. This keto stuff, Alhamdulillah,
I'm the founder, I'm the one who
formulated it. Well, I haven't studied
it much, but I've heard that COD does
intermittent fasting, which means
fasting for 16, 18, to 20 hours. I
teach that too, but I teach fasting
based on ancestral patterns. I don't
just teach fasting, like I just showed
Mas Krishna. Mas Krishna, if we go back
to our ancestors' lifestyle, could you
find food in the forest in the morning?
No.
You'd have to go look for it.
Right.
That’s why I teach fasting starting
in the morning. Because breakfast
wasn't normal in the past.
It's normal now because food is
everywhere. But let's say, for people
learning to fast, it's fine to break it
at 12:00 PM.
Yeah.
And then you can eat within an 8-hour
window until the evening. But no later
than 8:00 PM.
Yes. That's the maximum limit, 8:00 PM,
or an 8-hour eating window. Maybe
that's similar to the COD taught by Mas
Dedi Corbuzier. But here, I also teach
what to eat. Because we follow the
pattern in the forest where there are
no carbohydrates to eat.
Fasting is part of the 24-hour cycle
that happens naturally in the forest.
That's the key.
That's what I teach.
Okay. Peace be upon you, Mas. I'm
trying not to eat rice. I feel really
weak without eating rice. How can I
avoid feeling weak while not eating
rice? That's exactly what I mean.
People today have a high dependency on
sugar. Before they eat sugar, like
sweet tea or rice as a sugar source,
they feel weak, Mas.
Now, to not feel weak,
to not feel weak, we help them
rediscover the fuel tank in their body.
Let me ask you,
for a human fuel tank, if you turn on a
car in the morning, vroom,
where does it get the gas from? The
tank, right?
From the tank,
Mas. You don't need to. Oh, I want to
start the car, but let me fill up the
gas first. Oh, fill the gas with a
jerry can, then start the car. Or do
you just take it from the gas tank?
You just take it from the gas tank.
Right? You don't have to eat first,
right?
Yeah.
Why can't people nowadays do that? Even
though they wake up with a full fuel
tank. Do you know what the human fuel
tank is?
What? Fat.
Fat, right? They wake up with cheeks,
belly, thighs, and even a potbelly full
of fat. That’s the fuel tank. Why do
they wake up? Looking for sugar, so if
they don't eat sugar, they feel weak.
Meanwhile, when we eat rice, bread, or
noodles, we want our blood sugar not to
spike after eating. We want it to
return to normal. By doing this, God
willing, once they try it for 2 or 3
days, their ability to recognize the
fat in their body will return. Okay.
So even if you feel weak, my initial
advice is to get plenty of sleep, as
sleeping more at the start helps smooth
out the adaptation process. Once the
body learns to access its own stored
fat—I've become familiar with the fat
on my cheeks, belly, and thighs as an
energy source. By the second or third
day, the weakness from not eating is
gone. Why? Because even if I don't eat
fat from food, I can access the fat on
my cheeks, belly, and thighs, which I
have plenty of, for energy. Huh.
So, our ability to recognize our own
fuel tank—which was designed from the
start to be fat, not sugar—returns,
just like when we were kids. That’s
why I ask about childhood, in case
those asking are now adults. "I feel
weak if I don't have breakfast." Just
look at your 5 or 6-year-old children;
isn't it hard to stop them from running
around everywhere, even though they
haven't eaten since the morning?
Why? Because they still have a
primitive metabolism, which is the
ability to recognize the fat in their
own bodies.
Meanwhile, as we grow older, our
lifestyle changes, and we eat too many
carbs. What happens in the end? We
can't feel refreshed now unless we take
in sugar. Even though we have plenty of
body fat—our fuel tanks are
overflowing everywhere—we always want
to keep eating. Why? Because it turns
out our energy can now only rely on
sugar.
We should be able to access fat easily
when we're healthy. That's the answer.
From Yasir. Peace be upon you, Mas Tio.
Mas Tio, regarding fruit, which fruits
are allowed to be eaten and which ones
should be avoided? Like I discussed
before. If something naturally tastes
sweet, is it zero-calorie sugar or real
sugar?
Real sugar, right.
So if you have to eat fruit later,
choose fruits that don't taste sweet
when eaten. "But I like it sweet, Mas."
I already taught you earlier, like with
stevia or sucralose. Fake sweetness, if
it really must be sweet. Heh.
But if you're choosing non-sweet foods
and must eat fruit, choose fruits that
don't taste sweet. For example,
H
avocado.
Heh.
Is it sweet? No, right?
Now, if you want to eat other fruits
later, like strawberries or blueberries
, those are still okay.
Is papaya allowed? "Is papaya sweet,
Mas?"
It's sweet.
Can you guess?
Mm.
What does sweetness provide to the body
?
Fat.
Fat. Su
sugar.
Sugar. Uh, if we eat a mango, is it
sweet?
It's sweet. Then
what does it provide to the body?
Fat.
Why fat? Sugar.
Oh, sugar, right.
Yes, of course. Sweetness is sugar, not
fat. Fat is savory.
Okay. Okay.
So, avoid all fruits that taste sweet,
and if necessary, there's no problem
even if you don't eat fruit at all. The
important thing is we eat animal-based
foods.
Carrot. What about carrots?
Carrots are root vegetables that grow
underground.
Yeah.
Carrots are carbohydrates. I see.
Oh.
So, just focus on eating side dishes
first. What kind of side dishes? Fish,
eggs, chicken, meat. Just stick to
those for now. Here's the key. Eat fish
, eggs, chicken; the sources of animal
protein are vast, sir. Basically, food
is divided into two worlds: the plant
world and the animal world.
Everything in the animal world is
edible, except for what's forbidden.
And once you know it's edible, assuming
it's not forbidden, you just have to
think about the cooking process. I
avoid carbohydrates. So, if I eat fish,
eggs, or chicken, can I add sweet soy
sauce?
Hm.
That would defeat the purpose, wouldn't
it? Yeah.
So, avoid sweet soy sauce in the
cooking process. Can I add granulated
sugar? That would defeat the purpose,
wouldn't it?
Yeah.
Avoid granulated sugar. Can I add palm
sugar?
That would defeat the purpose, wouldn't
it? You're eating animal protein, but
the carbs come from the palm sugar.
Yes.
Well, that doesn't work, does it? Can I
use cornstarch, sago, flour; is
deep-frying with batter allowed? That
would defeat the purpose, wouldn't it?
So, even when eating animal protein,
the preparation must be carb-free. Just
basic seasonings. For example, yellow
fried chicken; what else? Chicken, for
example, like this. Let's use a
restaurant example. Padang-style
grilled chicken.
Ah.
Padang.
Steamed fish. So, not the sweet grilled
chicken, but the Padang-style one.
Basically, anything that uses basic
spices but contains no sugar, soy sauce
, flour, or starches. Starches like
cornstarch,
sago, and so on. Avoid these four when
cooking animal protein sources.
So, how do I go about eating rendang or
satay? Is rendang allowed? Well, but
what about taican satay?
Right? Taican satay is fine. But if you
eat satay with soy sauce,
can you?
No, you shouldn't; that wouldn't work.
But if you just eat the meat of the
taican satay, it's fine. If the sauce
contains carbs, then
we should be able to rationalize the
analogy by now. Oh, this has carbs in
it. I've already stopped eating rice
because of the carbs. Why would I add
soy sauce which also has carbs?
Hm.
So the easiest analogy is,
peanut sauce is also not allowed.
Peanut sauce usually has sugar added,
sir. Yes. Actually, peanuts are still
low in carbs, but within certain limits
.
Usually, I tell people to avoid it
first and just focus entirely on animal
protein. We need to get used to eating
animal sources, just the side dishes.
Look, I want to teach us to be like
children again. Hm.
For example, look at little kids, is it
hard to make them eat rice?
It's hard.
What do they want to eat instead? The
side dishes, right?
The chicken, right? Yeah.
Is it hard to make them eat vegetables?
They
find it difficult.
You wanted the side dish, right?
Yes.
Be like children first, as
children use their basic, primitive
instincts. Our thinking is already
complex, we are conceptual as adults.
But children’s basic primitive nature
is their instinct to choose
animal-based foods.
Be like a child first when starting out
.
Yeah.
You'll feel the changes later. That's
why we return to basic human instinct,
which is animal-based sources. What
about sour vegetable soup? That's okay,
right? The papaya isn't ripe, they say.
It's not sweet.
Sour vegetable soup contains papaya.
Unripe papaya. Unripe papaya.
Unripe papaya first, Mas.
Unripe papaya is one of the ingredients
in sour soup.
In the Betawi style, it's there.
I don't memorize every food name, I'm
not Google. So, as I taught you earlier
, what about cucumber? Is rambutan okay
? Is mango okay? The easiest and
smartest way is to ask Mr.
Google.
Google, just type in the name,
add "nutrition fact." Then the
carbohydrate composition will come out.
See if it's high or low. I can't answer
for every food, because if it's just
based on food names,
1,000 foods, 1,000 questions. Yeah.
It will never end. Let's start by
thinking physiologically, thinking
smart. If we want low carbs, we look
for the carbohydrate elements in food.
Which ones are low, below 10%of their
weight. Just like I taught you earlier.
"Wow, food A has 5g carbs, weight 100g,
that means 5%.""I can eat this because
it's low.""Oh, food B has 30g of carbs.
""30%.""Oh, I can't." That's easier and
faster than asking me via WhatsApp, "
Mas, is this okay?" Don't wait until
you want to eat,
take a photo, WhatsApp it to me,
showing me the food. Showing a cake, "
Mas, is this okay?" You'll starve
waiting for my reply, right? So, to be
smart, we all have internet access.
Open Google, type the food name, add "
carbohydrate" or "nutrition fact," and
you'll find the spread. The food name
comes up, and it turns out it contains
this much carbs. Oh, no need to message
Mastio. Ah, it's there, I can't eat it.
Done. Oh, I can eat this. How about
that? Isn't that faster and simpler?
Because most people on a diet are
always wondering, "Is this okay? Is
that okay?" But what are they asking
about? Food names. Yeah.
Whereas I look at it from a basic
physiological view; there are only
three macronutrients: carbohydrates,
protein, and fat. So, whatever we eat,
if it's to be absorbed by our body,
it's just these three plus
micronutrients. But to achieve ketosis,
we choose to keep the carbohydrates low
. You don't need to look at the protein
and fat content,
look at the carbohydrates. If it's more
than 10%of its weight,
you can't, avoid it. So, Mas, is it
possible, Mas? Is this possible, Mas?
Uncle Google is faster. Okay. This
person is asking as a ketosis
practitioner, what's this? Is it okay
if I cheat once in a while and eat
forbidden foods? Is it okay to cheat
just once in a while, eating it but
then going back to it? I don't
recommend it. It's like this, Mas,
humans have to choose between two paths
. So, there was a question at the
beginning, "Mas, is it okay to eat
offal?" I said yes, it's fine if it's
high-fat, as long as it's not high-carb
. Yes.
If you still eat rice, bread, flour
noodles, follow the modern world and
doctors 'rules. You can eat
carbohydrates, but it must be low-fat.
Right?
Yeah.
Right, Mas?
Yes, that's right.
They say you can't have high fat, right
?
Eat carbs, but don't have high fat.
Now, you want to strive to avoid
carbohydrates, but you eat animal
products, including the fat. Is it okay
if I cheat on my carbs once in a while?
It's the same as asking a doctor, "You
shouldn't eat high fat.""Can I cheat on
fat once in a while?" Are their answer
and mine the same?
Yes.
From the modern world's perspective
that says avoid fat. Well, if you don't
avoid fat and you get sick, don't blame
anyone. I've already told you about the
fat, haven't I? Can I cheat just once?
Well, I already told you: low carb, fat
is okay, protein is okay. Once in a
while, but don't blame me if your
problems resurface. Because these two
worlds are opposites. That's why I'm
asking, Mas, do you want to keep doing
this? I eat everything delicious. Fish,
eggs, chicken, meat. Now I'll reverse
it. If they are low-fat, eating brown
rice, white rice. But only chicken
breast, only egg whites, not eating the
yolk. Well, if you cook it deliciously,
you can do it for life. For me, this is
delicious. But if there are people who
say, I don't want to choose, I want to
eat everything delicious. I want to eat
rice, I want to eat fat, I want to eat
all of it, and I want to be healthy,
how do I do that? Well, don't ask both
sides. This is a healthy lifestyle. If
you want both, then
well, I can't answer that yet.
Plus medicine.
Yeah. Plus medicine, maybe you can
manage the symptoms. This is a very
common question, but it seems we are
limited by time.
Oh yeah,
go ahead. I will read Mas Tio's phone
number again. He is the founder of Keto
Fastosis. Please write it down. Get
your pen and paper ready. His full name
is Nur Agus Prasetyo, but he goes by
Mas Tio. He is the founder of
Ketofastosis. Please write this down.
0811 got it? Then 19 6620 0811 19
6620 still with Ketofastosis
God willing.
Yeah, go on.
Okay. We also have Mbak Dini and Mbak
Angela here, who each had their own
cases and have recovered. They should
be asked how many years they've been
doing this. I've been doing it for 13
years, how about them?
6 years, how many years? Just hitting
six.
Only 6 years? That's a long time.
Did those 6 years feel long and
difficult?
Not at all, it's enjoyable.
People who diet only last 8 months or a
year because they don't think they can
do it long-term. Why can they do it for
years? Because it’s not difficult
once you’re doing it; that’s the
secret.
Yeah, it doesn't even feel like it.
That can be answered quickly. And what
if I attend a wedding or a party where
there's food? What should I eat?
Eat things without sugar, soy sauce, or
flour, from animal sources. There are
animal products at weddings, right?
Lots of chicken, fish, and eggs. But if
there's flour, soy sauce, and so on,
just let it go and don't eat it.
Yes.
Drink water.
For the sake of your health. Just let
go of the donation you gave. Put it
into the red envelope. Let it go. I
want to maintain my health. I won't eat
it because everything served contains
carbohydrates. Let it go. That's the
key. Don't say, "What should I eat?" In
the end, you force yourself to eat
because you don't want to feel like
you're missing out on a "cheat." Eating
sugar. I say, "Let it go, your health
is more important than forcing yourself
to get something that's plentiful and
free but still harms your health."
That's my only message. Alright. Thank
you, Mas Tio, Mbak Angela, and Mbak
Dini. Thank you.
You're welcome.
Okay, that was our chat with Mas Tio.
He is the founder of Keto Pastosis.
Pastosis. I am Muhammad Krishna Purwana
as well. Saputra, along with Anis Maali
, we bid you farewell. Wabillahi taufik
walhidayah. Wasalamualaikum
warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
Waalaikumsalam.