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0:08 Brail TV. 0:16 In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious 0:17 , the Most Merciful. Praise be to Allah 0:18 , Lord of the Worlds. O Allah, send 0:20 prayers and peace upon our master 0:22 Muhammad and his family. Peace be upon 0:24 you, and Allah's mercy and blessings. 0:27 Brothers and sisters, listeners of 0:28 Radio Silaturahim and viewers of Rasil 0:30 TV, may you be blessed by Allah. 0:33 Alhamdulillah, we meet again this 0:35 Monday morning, the 20th of Safar 1448 0:39 Hijri, or August 3rd, 2026. We return 0:44 with the child protection program, 0:46 joined by Dr. Hamid Pati, who has 0:47 Alhamdulillah joined us in the studio. 0:50 Let us greet our brothers and sisters 0:51 first. Peace be upon you, and Allah's 0:53 mercy and blessings, Mr. Hamid. 0:54 Peace be upon you too. How are you? 0:56 Bung Fahri. 0:57 Alhamdulillah. How are you, Mr. Hamid? 0:59 Are you healthy? 0:59 Alhamdulillah, I am healthy. 1:00 Alhamdulillah. Do you have any schedule 1:02 today, Ustaz? Mr. Hamid. 1:03 Today, I'm doing a live broadcast, then 1:06 ... 1:07 heading straight back out. 1:09 Because I'm preparing for training with 1:12 the DKI Jakarta Child Forum. 1:16 This Saturday and Sunday. They are 1:19 being trained on how to talk to adults. 1:23 Hmm. 1:24 And how to debate. Then, the child 1:30 forum has a role as pioneers and 1:33 reporters. But. 1:35 Pioneers and reporters. 1:36 But what is no less important is. 1:39 During the Musrenbang, they are invited 1:42 to speak. For that, they are trained on 1:46 how to collect data. 1:49 Yes. 1:50 Then collect issues and package them 1:54 into material to be presented to the 1:59 departments or. 2:02 To Bappeda, the training lasts for 2 2:05 days. 2:07 God willing, there are about. 2:10 Two classes. Later. 2:12 We will divide the classes. 2:14 41 children each. 2:17 What school ages are those? What high 2:19 school? 2:20 From middle school to high school. 2:21 Middle school, high school. 2:22 Who are already members of the child 2:24 forum. 2:25 Hmm. 2:27 Because now in DKI Jakarta, every 2:29 sub-district, district, and 2:32 administrative city or regency has a 2:34 child forum. 2:36 There is a child forum. 2:37 And then at the provincial level, there 2:38 is also a child forum. 2:39 Yes, there is one at the provincial 2:40 level too, sir. Yes, there is. 2:42 So whatever the issues are, they can be 2:45 conveyed to the government; they will 2:48 be prepared and their capacity 2:51 increased so they become ethical 2:53 individuals. And then. 2:58 What they convey is truly in accordance 3:01 with their needs and expectations. 3:05 God willing. 3:07 Hopefully, children can express 3:08 themselves and parents can also listen, 3:10 and be able to accept what the children 3:12 say. 3:15 Going forward, it's not just the 3:17 children who need training, but also 3:19 adults. 3:20 Adults too. For that, adults were 3:24 already trained back in June. 3:28 Yeah. 3:29 They were trained. 3:30 There was also training for. 3:31 3 days. 3:33 Organized by the Center for Human 3:35 Resources Development for Women's 3:38 Empowerment and Child Protection. 3:41 The DKI Jakarta Provincial Office for 3:44 Women's Empowerment and Child 3:46 Protection. 3:47 Hmm. 3:47 That's it, Bung Fahri. 3:49 Masyaallah, extraordinary. And brothers 3:52 and sisters, today we are in the month 3:53 of August, which is the month of 3:55 independence, isn't it, Mr. Hamid? 3:56 Yes. 3:57 So our theme is also related to 3:59 independence, brothers and sisters, 4:00 about Indonesian children being free 4:02 from violence. Well, let's see what 4:04 it's like later, and for those who want 4:07 to join or ask questions, please send 4:09 them via WhatsApp at 0811999720. Please 4:14 take your leave. 4:15 Alright, thank you, Bung Fahri. In the 4:18 name of God, the Most Gracious, the 4:19 Most Merciful. Peace be upon you, and 4:21 God's mercy and blessings. 4:24 To Rasil Radio listeners wherever you 4:27 are, praise be to God we are still 4:30 given the opportunity by God to share 4:32 information. God willing, this time it 4:36 is related to Indonesian children being 4:39 free from violence. Freedom for 4:44 children means being free from fear and 4:47 free from wounds. These wounds, Bung 4:51 Fahri, are not just physical wounds, 4:53 but 4:54 psychological wounds. 4:58 Children often experience bullying. And 5:03 then, even when we just say "ah" to a 5:06 child, the child has already 5:09 experienced violence. Fathers and 5:15 mothers, as we know, Indonesia has 5:18 ratified the Convention on the Rights 5:21 of the Child through Presidential 5:24 Decree number 36 in 1990. Then 5:32 Indonesia has regulated matters 5:35 regarding children in Article 28B, 5:38 paragraph 2 of the 1945 Constitution 5:45 since August 18, 2000, which states 5:48 that every child has the right to be 5:52 protected from violence. Yeah. 5:56 And then, Bung Fahri 5:59 I 6:00 on the basis of that article, Indonesia 6:04 has operationalized three laws related 6:08 to child protection. 6:13 First, if I may, before we discuss this 6:16 material further regarding Indonesian 6:19 children being free from violence, we 6:22 must know the legal basis. It shouldn't 6:29 only be mastered by advocates, but by 6:32 us as fathers and mothers at home, some 6:36 of whom are also civil servants, or 6:39 hold status as soldiers or police. But 6:44 just as importantly, there are also 6:47 those who are teachers, merchants, or 6:50 community leaders. After all, at home, 6:54 we have children. Now, for that reason, 6:57 if I may, there are three laws related 7:00 to child protection that we need to 7:02 read carefully. First, Law Number 23 of 7:06 2002. Then the second, Law Number 35 of 7:12 2014. Then the third, Law Number 17 of 7:19 2016. But regarding this violence, 7:24 there are two additional laws, Bung 7:26 Fahri. If I may, fathers and mothers at 7:31 home need to master these because they 7:35 are also important foundations, namely 7:39 first, Law Number 23 of 2004 on the 7:45 elimination of domestic violence. Then 7:49 the second, Law Number 12 of 2022 on 7:55 the crime of sexual violence. So 8:00 essentially, there are about five laws. 8:04 If possible, we should study each law 8:07 and then use them as material for 8:11 discussion with our children at home. 8:15 Hoping that a child's life is free from 8:20 violence, free from pressure, and free 8:25 from inner wounds. And what is also 8:30 just as important is ensuring they do 8:33 not encounter issues or disturbances 8:36 through digital means. Especially where 8:39 , Bung Fahri? If possible, a child 8:43 should not experience violence at home. 8:47 Hm. 8:49 At school, or in the community 8:51 environment where children interact 8:54 with each other. 8:57 In society, yes. 8:59 Earlier I met with Mr. Safri, right? 9:03 Mr. Spril, yes. He mentioned that he 9:07 went out of the house around...at dawn 9:11 to go to the mosque. Right. 9:15 He still encountered children, 9:17 elementary, middle, and high schoolers, 9:21 just heading back home. So the question 9:23 is, 9:24 don't they sleep? Well, that might be 9:27 because they are experiencing a new 9:32 issue related to digital or gadget 9:35 usage. 9:39 Also, we must ensure that children 9:42 never experience degradation in public 9:45 spaces. Now, for that, 9:47 bullying, 9:49 how do we ensure every adult in public 9:51 spaces prevents children from 9:54 experiencing violence? And what is 9:59 equally important is in places where 10:03 children gather or play, and in houses 10:07 of worship. Wow, we often see that. 10:13 Kids will be kids; if they are at a 10:15 prayer room or mosque, they definitely 10:18 ...chat 10:23 and run around everywhere. That's just 10:28 them, 10:29 interacting. But if there are things we 10:34 identify or consider as leading to 10:37 violence, that's where the adults 10:41 around them should step in and provide 10:44 guidance. Every time I go to a house of 10:50 worship or a mosque and encounter 10:53 children pushing each other, I approach 10:56 them immediately, Bung Fahri. We 11:00 shouldn't wait until it escalates 11:03 before we separate them. This is an 11:10 important awareness we must build. The 11:15 question is, Bung Fahri, what are the 11:17 forms of violence? For that, we must 11:22 always remind parents. First, the form 11:28 of violence is physical. Like what, 11:31 Bung Fahri? If it's physical, 11:34 a child is punched, pinched, slapped, 11:38 or burned. 11:41 Maybe it's rare now. But when we hear 11:44 about it on television, 11:47 it seems there are still cases. 11:48 There are still viral cases. 11:51 Yes. 11:52 In the end, we wonder why it could be 11:56 that sadistic. He he. 11:58 It means there are adults at home who 12:00 haven't been exposed to this law. Now, 12:03 for that, 12:04 try, mothers and fathers, 12:07 to get the law we mentioned earlier. 12:11 Now, Bung Fahri, let's just put it into 12:14 AI. Please summarize it, 12:20 or make it into a PPT, or make it into 12:24 a short video. 12:26 Yes. That law 12:28 is already there, 12:29 can be directly 12:30 seen, downloaded, 12:31 and created by AI. 12:34 We can share that with anyone so that 12:38 people who are still stubborn or 12:42 possessed by the devil will know. Now, 12:47 that's so that... 12:49 they understand, so they grasp it. 12:50 Spreading the law so they understand. 12:53 That is the first form, 12:55 physical. Then, if I may, let's make 12:59 sure children around us don't 13:02 experience this second form of violence 13:05 , Bung Fahri. 13:07 Because this second form 13:09 is very impactful, very, what? 13:15 It leaves a mark and is hard to treat. 13:17 That is 13:19 psychological violence. 13:20 Yes, that's absolutely right. 13:21 Psychological, we...Just glaring or 13:27 scolding a child has an extraordinary 13:32 impact. Especially when we start 13:35 comparing. 13:37 And keep mocking them. So, in the end, 13:43 that child's confidence in us 13:47 is compared, right? 13:49 Compared or if we use insults, they 13:51 immediately 13:53 if we yell at them or something 13:56 they get shocked and they also feel sad 14:01 seeing 14:03 why the person I trust, the person I 14:06 value, 14:07 and have respected all this time, why 14:09 are they acting like this? 14:13 The person who often feeds me, why are 14:17 they 14:18 angry? 14:19 Cruel. 14:20 Violence, yeah. If I may, fathers and 14:25 mothers, if we have done this or 14:27 experienced it ourselves, do not repeat 14:30 it to our children. Psychological 14:35 violence is incredibly difficult to 14:39 heal. It will lead to disturbances 14:45 and trauma later on, right? 14:46 Mental health. Currently, 14:49 Indonesia's mental health is quite... 14:53 Yes. Yes. 14:55 What is an example? Littering is a 14:58 mental health issue. 15:00 Uh-huh. So their mental health is not 15:02 healthy? People who are like that, 15:04 usually there are people riding 15:06 motorcycles on sidewalks or going 15:08 against the flow, 15:10 that's their mental health 15:11 being disrupted. 15:12 It is actually disrupted. 15:13 All violations are also mental health 15:15 issues, right? 15:17 Mental health, but there is no doctor 15:20 or health center giving a referral 15:22 letter saying this person has this, it 15:25 starts from that. 15:28 What is that, Sir? 15:29 Psychological violence, yes. 15:31 So psychological violence comes from 15:35 parental behavior at home that is 15:37 copied by the child, right? 15:40 That makes sense. So, for that, fathers 15:43 and mothers who have children entrusted 15:46 by God through your womb, avoid that. 15:50 Then the third one, which is currently 15:54 spreading to boarding schools, is 15:56 sexual violence. 15:58 Yes, that's correct. This has become a 16:01 new movement on how Islamic boarding 16:05 schools must be free from the behaviors 16:09 of people who 16:13 How could they, every day they approach 16:18 God, 16:20 learning religion, right? 16:22 Why can they also be approached by the 16:25 devil? Ah, because perhaps those who 16:30 become perpetrators were once victims 16:33 whose rehabilitation was never 16:35 completed. And now they also often 16:41 access pornographic images. 16:44 Yes, that's right. On their phones, 16:47 on their phones or via Twitter or 16:50 through whatever applications, 16:53 eventually 16:55 they try to figure out how to 17:00 express it after watching that. The 17:07 problem is the children who become 17:10 victims. 17:11 Yes. We noted recently there were about 17:14 50 children who became victims. It 17:18 could be revealed because there was a 17:20 child who dared to report it. This is 17:23 also important for us to discuss in 17:25 today's meeting, how Indonesian 17:28 children can be free from violence. One 17:31 of the ways is for them to be brave 17:33 enough to report. 17:34 Hm. This is important. Then the fourth 17:38 one, Bung Fahri, fathers and mothers at 17:41 home, is violence. One form of violence 17:47 is neglect. Neglect is something often 17:54 done by 17:56 Parents at home or the community should 18:01 be able to prevent children from being 18:05 neglected. As Mr. Safri mentioned 18:10 earlier, if we don't correct children 18:14 wisely, 18:16 that also becomes one form of 18:20 negligence toward them 18:22 because we are choosing to ignore them. 18:25 This has been our responsibility as 18:29 adults, as mandated by the state since 18:34 October 17, 2014. 18:36 Yes. Through Article 72, paragraph 3, 18:41 from letters A to H of the Child 18:43 Protection Law. Every adult around the 18:48 child is given a role. 18:50 Hmm. 18:50 One of those roles is to report. If we 18:55 find a child who we think 19:01 is not having their rights met or who 19:05 needs special protection. If we don't 19:09 report it, we are complicit. 19:12 Oh, I see. 19:12 Neglect. That's why we must be aware; 19:16 we must care. 19:17 Don't be indifferent. 19:18 Don't be indifferent. We must show 19:20 respect. Then, in that law, it also 19:24 states that if a child is having 19:27 problems, 19:29 uh, 19:30 we are asked to be someone who can 19:32 provide social rehabilitation. So we 19:36 act as a social worker 19:39 uh, 19:40 accompanying them; how a child who was 19:43 initially aggressive, we accompany them 19:46 and have a private talk; that rapport 19:49 needs to be built. 19:53 But it does require skill, too, to 19:55 convey, 19:56 we are all endowed with this by God. 20:00 Think back to when you were a child, 20:02 Bung Fari, if a friend was crying, we 20:03 would try to comfort them. 20:05 Automatically, right? 20:06 That ability is naturally there. 20:10 If we see a friend, or even now we have 20:13 friends from elementary, junior, or 20:16 senior high school, they often confide 20:18 in us. That is actually 20:21 a form of 20:23 our care, and the law has already 20:26 provided for that. We are given a role 20:29 for that. 20:32 And the third one, Bung Fahri, in that 20:35 law, we as adults around children are 20:38 given the role of monitors. 20:43 Hmm. 20:44 Monitoring where? In which alley, which 20:51 playground, which place of worship. 20:54 Here, children often experience 20:58 violence, 21:00 so we monitor. 21:01 Hmm. 21:02 And no less important, the second role, 21:05 Bung Fari, is as supervisors. So we 21:09 supervise to ensure violence doesn't 21:13 happen to them, whether from child to 21:18 child, adult to child, or vice versa. 21:24 Like the case that happened recently, 21:27 a teacher corrected a student for 21:33 smoking. Hmm. 21:34 Uh, 21:35 that is an act 21:38 encouraged by the law to prevent 21:40 children from doing such things, but 21:42 then the family actually 21:44 Yes. 21:45 In the end, the teacher was hit, 21:47 ganged up on by the family. 21:49 What is going on? That’s why we, as 21:53 adults around children, must read this 21:56 law. We are given a role. And if we are 22:01 investigated or questioned by the 22:04 police, we can show them the law that 22:08 requires us to do that. 22:11 It's not 22:12 like us as a teacher, a teacher is 22:15 already empowered for that. We as 22:18 adults around children, we see children 22:21 who we think 22:24 are not in line with social norms, 22:27 societal norms. We are given a role to 22:32 conduct supervision. 22:35 H 22:36 supervision, one of those supervisions 22:38 is 22:38 reprimanding. 22:39 We can reprimand. 22:40 Hm. Then the third one besides 22:43 monitoring, supervising, we also share 22:47 responsibility. Ah, that is where the 22:51 role is that we are required to take 22:54 part in ensuring 22:57 don't let it happen, but don't be 22:59 foolishly reckless. 23:01 When there are middle school kids 23:03 gathering and they are doing something, 23:05 then we just start reprimanding 23:08 directly. That's also dangerous, right. 23:10 we must learn how to approach them. 23:14 So 23:16 we must build an understanding and 23:19 remember, are we capable of 23:21 reprimanding elementary schoolers, 23:24 middle schoolers, high schoolers, Bung 23:27 Fahri? 23:30 We should be, yes. 23:31 We must be. 23:32 Why? Because we were once in elementary 23:35 school too. 23:36 Hm. We also used to reprimand our 23:39 friends. Those abilities actually 23:42 already exist. But why don't we do it? 23:48 Because we still have worries about not 23:51 wanting to be bothered. 23:53 Well, that's it. 23:54 By law, we have been given that role of 23:58 neglect. Uh, that explanation of 24:01 neglect or abandonment is quite long. 24:03 Then the fifth one is digital violence. 24:08 This digital violence 24:11 we are lucky, right. The President has 24:15 issued what Law? Government Regulation 24:19 number 17 of 2025 24:21 about what? 24:22 Uh, about the Child Protection 24:24 Regulation. So how are children 24:27 protected from digital impacts by KOMDI 24:31 ? that regulation has been in effect 24:37 since March 28, 2026. 24:40 It's still just yesterday, right? 24:41 it was just implemented by KOMDI 24:44 through Ministerial Regulation number 9 24:48 of 2026. 24:50 H 24:51 the app operators now, Bung Fahri, are 24:54 no longer allowed to broadcast ads 24:58 related to children. But the facts on 25:02 the ground are 25:03 there are still many 25:05 parents who don't know about that rule. 25:10 That's why in our broadcast, we always 25:13 say let's moms and dads take Government 25:16 Regulation number 17 of 2025 and that 25:19 Ministerial Regulation, don't just 25:22 leave it in Google, we take it, move it 25:28 , then we read it 25:30 we summarize it, then we make it 25:32 discussion material with our children 25:34 at home 25:36 so that they have a good, complete 25:39 understanding. Why did the President go 25:44 as far as to ensure they are not 25:47 exposed to digital impacts? Because 25:52 in digital, there is a lot of hidden 25:55 violence. 25:58 Yeah. especially violence through 26:02 sexual exploitation and 26:06 neglect online. So now 26:10 the pedophiles 26:13 have changed their strategy, which was 26:16 initially face-to-face with the child 26:20 in the real world, now in the digital 26:23 world, and the impact is extraordinary, 26:26 Bung Fahri, and I have trained 26:28 prosecutors and judges across the 26:32 province of Bali. 26:34 Yeah. they must understand the impact 26:37 of that online violence. Ah, that. Ah, 26:41 then what are the signs that children 26:43 are experiencing violence? We need to 26:46 know the signs. 26:47 What’s it like? 26:48 What are the signs? The first signs are 26:52 , um, changes in their sleep patterns. 26:56 Hm. 26:57 If there’s a change in sleep patterns 26:59 , the child might be experiencing abuse 27:01 . Then, always having nightmares. 27:05 Yes. 27:06 Ah, nightmares, screaming. That could 27:09 be it, yes. 27:10 They are being threatened at school, 27:13 bullying at school, like that. 27:14 Bullying, being bullied. Then what else 27:18 ? It’s been just about a month, right 27:21 ? 27:22 Yeah. 27:23 Just, uh, not even a month. 27:25 I don’t think they’ve started yet. 27:26 Just 27:27 half a month, the process for new 27:29 students going from preschool to 27:32 elementary, elementary to middle, 27:34 middle to high school, they are still 27:37 in the adjustment process. Ah, let's 27:40 try checking at home 27:41 to see if these kids have their sleep 27:44 disturbed. Also, signs that children 27:48 are experiencing abuse is that they are 27:51 afraid to meet people. 27:55 Hmm. They 27:57 become withdrawn, quiet, right? They 28:00 change. 28:00 They avoid people. They don't want to 28:02 meet someone who 28:04 they used to meet and be close with. 28:07 Now they don't want to anymore. 28:08 Ah, that 28:10 that's likely psychological abuse or 28:14 sexual abuse. 28:17 That, too, we must ensure. Come on, 28:20 moms and dads, who have children, 28:23 whether they are at school, at home, at 28:27 a boarding school, let's observe them. 28:32 Are there signs like the ones we 28:34 mentioned, where they were doing well 28:37 but are now regressing? Not performing 28:41 well usually means, uh, bullying. 28:43 He he. 28:44 That’s often because they are being 28:46 threatened, bullying. Then, this child 28:49 who used to be cheerful, happy, and 28:52 confident, 28:53 eh, now they withdraw to 28:59 themselves. They don't want to be 29:01 accompanied. Those are signs that 29:03 children are experiencing abuse. If we 29:06 already know this, what is the response 29:09 we need to take so we can reach out to 29:12 this child immediately? First, make the 29:17 child feel safe. That’s important, 29:22 how we create a sense of safety. 29:24 A sense of safety. H. 29:26 The second is that we need to say thank 29:29 you if they are brave enough to talk. 29:33 Thank you for wanting to share your 29:35 story. Then once you've gotten that do 29:42 not interrogate them. 29:45 Hm. Just ask a little, I mean just 29:47 ask a few questions for a moment. They 29:48 have reported it, "Mom, yeah I 29:51 experienced it, Sir. I 29:54 or Mom, I experienced abuse." 29:58 That immediately, from these five forms 30:01 of abuse, we should immediately 30:05 refer them. 30:08 Refer them now, Bung Fahri, to the 30:11 facilities that the state has built, 30:14 because maybe not many people know 30:16 about these facilities. Through this 30:21 broadcast, we share that first, we use 30:24 SAPA 129. 30:26 By phone. 30:28 Phone, or if they don't want to call, 30:31 we can use WhatsApp at 08111. 129129. 30:39 H. 30:40 Or if we want to go directly to an 30:43 operator through the website, there is 30:46 the SAPA 129 website. 30:49 SAPA 129. 30:51 Then the second thing is, if in our 30:53 opinion this child is experiencing any 30:56 form of abuse, 30:58 Yeah. 30:59 They should be immediately referred to 31:01 the community health center. Now, at 31:03 the community health center, there are 31:06 already doctors and nurses who have 31:09 been trained. 31:12 capable of managing the handling of 31:15 violence against women and children. 31:20 But not all community health centers 31:22 have been trained; some who were 31:23 trained have even moved. For that, we 31:27 need to push the Ministry of Health to 31:30 ensure this, because recently I had a 31:33 doctor friend from the Indonesian 31:36 Pediatric Society who said they have 31:40 designed 31:43 a draft of the Minister of Health 31:45 regulation regarding this handling and 31:48 this is becoming important. Then we 31:53 report to the UPTD PPA. Ah, please, 31:58 fathers and mothers in every regency 32:02 and city, now 32:05 through Presidential Regulation number 32:08 55 of 2024, every region 32:12 has 32:13 it is mandatory to provide a UPTD PPA, 32:18 that is the UPTD PPA in regencies, 32:21 cities, provinces, and at the national 32:24 level. Ah, we learn from Cianjur or 32:29 several regencies in West Java where 32:33 the UPTD PPA is formed in each 32:36 sub-district. 32:37 Hm. even smaller. 32:39 Even smaller to be closer or 32:42 like in Tangerang City, Tangerang City 32:46 each sub-district has a coordinator. So 32:51 if there is 32:52 a case, immediately report it to this 32:54 coordinator. Yes. 32:56 And they have the Silacak Perak 32:57 application. 32:59 Hm. 33:00 It can track things. Yesterday we 33:03 already socialized it in three meetings 33:08 , with each meeting having 250 people 33:12 from each urban village sending 33:15 representatives, which means we have 33:20 presented to 750 people. Ah, if it's 33:23 through Rasil radio, 33:25 it should be more because the material 33:27 is almost the same as this. For that, 33:30 come on, fathers and mothers, report 33:33 immediately. Ah, what about at school? 33:38 Ah, at school we must ensure the school 33:43 has a safe culture. 33:46 Hm. The Minister of Primary and 33:51 Secondary Education has issued the 33:54 Ministry Regulation number 6 of 2026. 34:00 Yes. 34:00 Ah, we will delve into that deeper 34:02 later. Ensure the school is safe. 34:06 Ensure the school has a violence 34:12 prevention socialization program. 34:14 Hm. Ensure there is a referral system. 34:20 But no less important, there must be 34:22 adults at school who become the people 34:25 we can report to. 34:27 So at school, it's already there. At 34:32 home, ensure there are no more parents 34:34 who like to get angry. No more parents 34:38 who like to label. No more parents who 34:42 like to neglect. Likewise with the 34:46 environment, don't close your eyes. 34:52 Come on, fathers and mothers, at home 34:54 we have neighbors, don't close our eyes 34:56 . Don't let it happen 3 years being 35:01 held captive, oh my God 35:04 a woman only then finding out there was 35:07 violence, 35:10 only then finding out there was a 35:12 sexual harassment case. 35:14 Yes. 35:17 It has happened to 50 children before 35:18 someone finds out. 35:20 Yes. 35:20 Because no one 35:23 Yes. 35:23 cares. 35:24 From the start, no one cared, right. 35:25 There is no awareness for that. 35:28 For that, the state has asked us 35:30 through the aforementioned 35:34 article 72 35:36 paragraph 3 of Law 35 of 2014. Let's 35:40 take part. For that, let's be brave and 35:44 report to people who we think are 35:48 authorized. I 35:51 and we as adults around the child have 35:53 already been given the authority. 35:55 Hm. 35:56 do not let that authority be revoked, 36:00 we utilize it, but it must be with 36:02 knowledge, skills, and attitude. 36:05 Important. 36:06 True. 36:08 What are the practical steps so that 36:10 our children are truly free from 36:13 violence, Fariah? 36:15 Hm. The first thing we must trust and 36:20 calm our children. Trust and 36:25 calm our children. Second, 36:28 do not punish them, do not blame them, 36:34 but how do we ensure that the children 36:38 are brave enough to speak with us. Then 36:44 secure the child if we find or indicate 36:47 they are experiencing violence. Any 36:52 violence, even physical violence, also 36:55 impacts the psyche. Psychological 36:59 violence, let alone? 37:00 Hm. 37:01 sexual violence is double. 37:04 Double the impact, 37:05 it hits three at once. 37:06 Yes. 37:07 Physical violence, 37:09 psychological too. 37:10 Then psychological threats. Hm. 37:13 Then they experience, uh, sexual 37:15 violence. Then digital. This digital 37:20 aspect is becoming important. 37:22 Ensure that our children do not become 37:26 victims of violence through digital 37:29 means. The perpetrators are out there. 37:34 Hm. But the impact on our children, God 37:39 willing, we will discuss the details in 37:42 2 or 3 weeks. 37:45 God willing. 37:45 use the UPTDPPA referral mentioned 37:48 earlier, 37:49 phone number, 37:51 we all must ensure Indonesian children 37:56 are free from violence. Who else can do 38:01 this if not 38:03 us, 38:04 Indonesian citizens. 38:06 As Indonesian citizens, especially 38:09 fathers and mothers at home, teachers 38:12 at school, local neighborhood heads, 38:15 mosque administrators or house of 38:18 worship managers, ensure it. Then the 38:23 managers of children's play areas and 38:27 public spaces, especially entrust the 38:31 security guards to always remind 38:34 parents bringing children that the 38:38 child must feel protected and ensure 38:42 parents do not commit violence against 38:46 children in areas where 38:49 they are guarding security in public 38:52 spaces. These security guards are 38:54 important. 38:55 That is all, Bung Fari. Peace be upon 38:56 you, and Allah's mercy and blessings. 38:58 Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy 38:59 and blessings. Thus we have listened 39:01 together to the child protection 39:03 message conveyed by Dr. Hamid Fatih 39:05 Lima discussing the theme of Indonesian 39:07 children free from violence. Besides 39:09 being a trust from Allah, children are 39:11 also the successors of the nation's 39:12 generation, right? We must ensure their 39:14 physical safety, their psyche, their 39:16 education must also be noted, and we 39:18 must be aware of the development of our 39:20 children, Ikhwan and Akhwat. So not 39:23 just our own children, but the children 39:25 of our community, right? In our society 39:28 , we must indeed be active in 39:30 monitoring them all. To those who have 39:33 joined, thank you very much for sending 39:34 your WhatsApp messages this morning. 39:37 Greetings that have come in from Mrs. 39:42 or Mr. Sandi Wirya Tarmini, who is 39:45 listening. Thank you, Mr. Hamid. Now we 39:48 know about the issues of, uh, what do 39:49 you call it, government regulations. 39:51 There are Ministerial Regulations from 39:53 the ministry, Ministry of Education and 39:54 Culture, and so on. Because there are 39:56 indeed people who do not understand, it 39:57 turns out there are regulations if we 39:59 want to protect these children. Mrs. 40:01 Sundari is also listening in. Mrs. 40:03 Anicani Hudaifah is also listening, as 40:05 well as Mrs. Lis and many others who 40:07 have sent WhatsApp messages. Thank you, 40:10 sir, for the enlightenment this morning 40:13 leading into the afternoon. There is a 40:16 question, sir, from Mrs. Dian in Bekasi 40:18 . Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy 40:20 and blessings. 40:21 And peace be upon you, and Allah's 40:22 mercy and blessings. Sir. Can threats 40:25 or harsh words continuously spoken by 40:28 parents to their children also be 40:31 considered violence against the child, 40:33 Mr. Hamid? How can we avoid it so we 40:38 don't accidentally speak harshly to 40:40 children who can sometimes be annoying? 40:44 Mr. Hamid, please provide a solution 40:45 for this. 40:46 Alright, thank you to the lady in 40:50 Bekasi. Mrs. Dian in Bekasi. For the 40:56 question. This means a new awareness 41:00 has been awakened, leading you to ask 41:03 this question. How do we avoid not 41:12 using such words? Even just saying "ah, 41:17 " Mrs. Dian? 41:19 That is already violence. Especially 41:22 snapping, cursing, or getting angry. 41:26 Even though a child is also a human 41:31 being. For that, we must build a new 41:37 understanding so that we do not commit 41:40 violence. That is already a form of 41:43 violence. It can be reported to the 41:47 police if a neighbor dares to witness 41:51 it and then reports it; the police must 41:55 process it under two laws. 41:59 Two laws, yes. 42:01 Law number 23 of 2002. 42:05 Yes. 42:06 And Law Number 23 of 2004. 42:10 Violence, uh, 42:13 Elimination of Domestic Violence. One 42:16 of its forms is, 42:18 and which is very important in the Law 42:25 on the Elimination of Domestic Violence 42:29 , in article 20, the perpetrator can 42:32 immediately be labeled as a perpetrator 42:38 of crimes against humanity. It exists, 42:42 and it does not need to go through a 42:47 court process first, but under that 42:48 article, the police can directly call 42:51 the perpetrator 42:52 as a perpetrator of 42:54 crimes against humanity. Therefore, 42:57 saying "ah" 42:59 is not allowed. Why is it like that? 43:04 Because a child is a human being 43:08 created by Allah who has dignity and 43:13 worth. Therefore, they must always be 43:16 uplifted. They must always be respected 43:20 . They must always be appreciated. Do 43:26 we want to be labeled like 43:31 the incident of the Prophet 43:34 Adam, who was the first to belittle 43:37 Prophet Adam? Who was it? Iblis. 43:40 Iblis. 43:41 Iblis said, "I was created from fire." 43:45 Prophet Adam was from 43:47 soil. "He was immediately expelled by 43:50 Allah from heaven. That, 43:51 Iblis. 43:53 If we in this world say" ah "to a child 43:56 , we are already belittling them. In 44:01 the 1945 Constitution, in Article 28B 44:05 paragraph 2, every child has the right 44:10 to be protected from violence and 44:13 discrimination. 44:16 Yes. Snapping, berating is already 44:19 discrimination. 44:21 Discrimination. 44:23 Mothers or fathers at home, before we 44:26 want to speak to our children, we must 44:29 first understand them. Therefore, how 44:33 do we understand a child? First, who 44:38 knows about our child from the womb 44:42 until birth? Yeah. 44:44 It is the father and mother who know. 44:48 Then secondly, we must understand child 44:51 development. The one who knows the 44:55 details of a child's development day by 44:57 day, Bung Fahi. Who is it actually? A 45:01 psychologist or the parents? 45:03 Who should it be? Bung Far. 45:05 Parents. It should be 45:06 the parents. For that, mothers must 45:08 know, why does this child make me have 45:12 to get angry? Now, you must know 45:15 what the cause is, right. 45:16 Yes. Then we need to have communication 45:22 skills with them so we don't get angry. 45:27 Ah, that requires practice. We must 45:32 practice in front of a mirror. How do 45:35 we practice that? 45:37 So that we don't get angry at our 45:39 children. Then, most importantly, our 45:44 attitude toward the child must be wiser 45:48 in how we behave. 45:52 Because a child is a reflection of 45:55 their parents. If we are kind to them, 46:00 God willing, they will be kind to 46:02 others, 46:03 including us. Hm. 46:05 But if we are harsh to them, maybe they 46:11 won't retaliate today, but when they 46:14 leave the house, 46:16 I 46:18 the one who will suffer the 46:20 consequences of our anger toward them 46:22 is that they will express it to their 46:25 friends and eventually 46:27 their friends will say, he is 46:30 why is he like this, for that, fathers 46:34 and mothers at home. Let's become wise, 46:38 knowledgeable parents. One of which is 46:42 reading the legislation. 46:44 Correct. Correct. 46:44 That's it, Bung Fari. 46:45 Yes, there is another question without 46:48 a name here, Mr. Hamid, from a servant 46:50 of God. It seems like a comment. I am a 46:53 servant of God, a single mother, just 46:56 reminding as a parent. No matter how 46:59 busy we are, we must know our child's 47:00 condition and circumstances. Because my 47:03 youngest daughter was once bullied in 47:05 10th grade just out of jealousy. When I 47:08 drop my child off, I always kiss her 47:09 cheek and hand, and she kisses my hand 47:11 back. Ten of her friends felt jealous. 47:16 They ended up bullying my child. I 47:18 found out from the guidance counselor 47:19 that they were called in, and on 47:21 average, they bully because of a lack 47:22 of attention from their parents. That's 47:24 how well they understand. 47:26 Thank you for the testimonial. And 47:29 hopefully, this becomes a lesson for us 47:32 all. We have children, we accompany 47:37 them. But there is also one skill we 47:42 need to train, which is how we, uh 47:47 how our child can handle friends like 47:50 the ones who bullied, knowing that the 47:53 only ones who can judge our child are 47:56 themselves and God. Ah, that is also 48:00 what we need to strengthen, for that we 48:02 need to train them. 48:04 We must, uh strengthen them. Uh, just 48:10 yesterday I made, uh, an application. 48:19 This is also very important for every 48:21 parent to use to assess their child, 48:22 right. From the time the child is born 48:26 until, because my basis is early 48:28 childhood strengthening so that when 48:31 they transition to elementary school 48:34 they are already understood; that 48:37 application is important. 48:39 Yes. 48:40 We, uh, in that application, every 48:43 early childhood teacher, and it will be 48:47 shown to the parents. But it is also 48:50 important for parents to know. 48:52 First, regarding the aspect of 48:55 children's religious and moral values 48:57 development. Later, as parents, we read 49:01 how these values are. 49:04 Then the second is Pancasila values. 49:07 Then the third is physical-motor 49:09 development. 49:11 Yes, physical. It turns out that 49:14 physical-motor development, Bung Fahri, 49:17 is very decisive; before a child can 49:20 speak, it starts by pointing and moving 49:24 —they are actually communicating, but 49:27 people don't know it 49:30 because they don't understand. 49:32 So, for that, we must understand how a 49:34 child's physical-motor skills are. Then 49:37 cognitive. 49:38 Hm. Cognitive. The child is able to 49:43 distinguish what is smooth, what is 49:45 rough, what is high, what is low, 49:47 colors, and they know all the shapes. 49:51 That will also not be optimal if their 49:54 physical-motor skills are not good. 49:58 Yes. 49:58 Then the fifth, language. Regarding 50:04 language, many parents do not 50:07 immediately understand this child's 50:10 ability. So the child is constantly 50:14 forced to speak. Whereas the process of 50:18 a child wanting to speak is not just 50:21 through the mouth, 50:24 but through movement, through pictures, 50:27 through expressions. We can know that. 50:30 Yes. Body language, that is. Body 50:32 language. Then the last is emotional 50:35 and social. Dear. 50:38 What was largely exposed from what the 50:40 mother shared earlier is that the child 50:43 experienced emotional and social 50:45 problems, which ultimately 50:47 impacted our child. 50:49 But we are grateful 50:52 that we have supported our child with 50:56 very high-level 51:00 affection. Greeting them. Then later 51:04 they received threats from their 51:06 friends. Yes. 51:09 But we hope our child has high 51:11 self-confidence. 51:14 And what is no less important in 51:17 emotional and social development is 51:20 being able to forgive people who have 51:23 belittled them. 51:25 Now, that is even higher. 51:27 If they are able to, in Allah's law, 51:31 they are given the opportunity to 51:34 retaliate. But there is a pause there. 51:37 Hm. If they are able to forgive, that 51:41 is the very best. 51:44 I hope your child is at that final 51:46 stage where they are able to forgive. 51:51 If they are able to forgive, they have 51:54 reached a high level of humanity. 51:58 And that will be a provision for them 52:01 from childhood until they are adults. 52:06 And it's likely they will want to do 52:08 many things, and that is a difficult 52:11 step. But if we keep praying for the 52:15 light, pleasure, and blessings from 52:18 Allah, hopefully our children can reach 52:23 the level of wanting to forgive. 52:27 Important. 52:27 Masha Allah. 52:29 Alright, Mr. Hamid. We are limited by 52:31 time, perhaps before Mr. Hamid. Mr. 52:33 Hamid, please summarize our theme this 52:35 morning. 52:35 Right, thank you. How do we ensure that 52:39 Indonesian children are free from 52:42 violence? We must ensure our children 52:46 feel safe and comfortable. If a child 52:51 experiences violence, we must 52:54 immediately create a conducive 52:57 atmosphere. Then we ask, and then we 53:02 give appreciation. They have been 53:06 willing to share their story, but keep 53:09 it only to the level of listening, 53:12 do not follow up with an interrogation. 53:18 Then, if there is evidence of the 53:20 violence they experienced, we record it 53:24 , film it, or photograph it ethically, 53:27 but it must not be spread publicly. All 53:33 of that will serve as evidence when we 53:36 file a report. The report needed so 53:42 that this is truly handled immediately 53:44 by the government 53:47 is through the official channel, first 53:51 to SAPA 129, secondly to the nearest 53:58 UPTD PPA. For that, moms and dads, try 54:02 to grab your Google immediately. Type 54:07 UPTD PPA 54:11 in the regency where you live and get 54:14 the number. Then, no less important, 54:18 Bung Fahri, also to improve parents ' 54:21 knowledge, 54:23 try typing" Puspaga "in Google in our 54:27 regency or city, Puspaga, the Center 54:30 for Family Learning. Then lastly, when 54:35 children are processing at the UPTD PPA 54:40 , the UPTD PPA will handle everything, 54:44 Bung Fahri. 54:46 Yes. 54:47 Optimal. 54:48 That is optimal 54:50 from referrals to hospitals for 54:53 forensic exams, to psychosocial 54:56 rehabilitation, and even victim-witness 54:59 protection. That includes contacting 55:04 LPSK; the UPTD PPA does it all. 55:08 Then, for legal aid, the UPTD PPA 55:10 because it is complete there with 55:14 lawyers there, 55:17 paralegals, and social workers. Later, 55:20 if, for example, this victim has 55:22 recovered and must return to the 55:24 community, 55:26 social workers from the UPTD PPA will 55:29 handle it. Then the question arises, 55:32 what about the perpetrator? The 55:34 perpetrator will be handled in parallel 55:38 by the police 55:41 based on the UPTD PPA's report. So we 55:43 don't need to report to the police 55:45 directly, 55:45 so it's not straight to the police 55:46 office, but to the UPTD PPA 55:48 to the UPTD PPA because the UPTD PPA is 55:51 already networked, 55:53 and if it has entered the UPTD PPA, the 55:55 police will not hold a press conference 55:58 . 55:59 Hm. Yeah. Yeah. 56:01 That is where the child's safety lies. 56:03 Why should there not be a press 56:05 conference? Because we must ensure the 56:09 child's identity is not leaked. 56:13 Therefore, fathers and mothers, read 56:17 the regulations, use the numbers, and 56:21 ensure in every place where we live at 56:24 home. Yeah. 56:27 Who is the person we want to complain 56:29 to? We must establish that. 56:31 Yes. 56:32 Is it to mother, father, grandfather, 56:35 or to whom? So the child feels safe to 56:38 speak. Then in the neighborhood, please 56:41 determine who is the person who will be 56:43 the complaint point for our children. 56:46 Yes. Maybe the religious leaders. 56:47 At school, which teacher is designated? 56:51 Yeah. 56:52 Then at the place of worship, who is it 56:54 ? So that the child knows if there is a 56:57 case, they are brave enough to report 57:00 it. That is where 57:02 the children of Indonesia are free from 57:06 violence. That is all. May what we have 57:09 conveyed today gain blessings and favor 57:12 from Allah. 57:14 And may we as parents continue to be 57:16 given light by Allah; those who are 57:18 already gentle to our children today, 57:20 become even gentler. That is all. 57:23 Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy 57:25 and blessings. 57:26 Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy 57:27 and blessings. That concludes our 57:29 discussion on child protection with Dr. 57:31 Hamid Pati 5, discussing the theme of 57:33 Indonesian children free from violence. 57:36 Hopefully, what has been understood and 57:38 conveyed today brings many benefits to 57:40 everyone. I am Pahri, accompanied by 57:42 Oni and Aldi Nur, signing off. Glory be 57:44 to You, O Allah, and with Your praise, 57:45 I bear witness that there is no god but 57:46 You; I seek Your forgiveness and repent 57:48 to You. Peace be upon you, and the 57:49 mercy and blessings of Allah. And peace 57:51 be upon you, and the mercy of Allah.