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0:23 Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy 0:25 and blessings. Praise be to Allah, Lord 0:28 of the Worlds. O Allah, send prayers 0:29 upon Muhammad and upon the family of 0:31 Muhammad. How are you, brothers and 0:33 sisters, fans of Silaturahim Radio and 0:36 TV, wherever you are? Welcome back to 0:38 the child protection program. God 0:41 willing, in today's child protection 0:44 program, I, Nurfitri Taher, along with 0:47 Neja and Anis, will accompany you until 0:50 11:30. Brothers and sisters, God 0:54 willing, in this child protection 0:56 program, we will discuss child-friendly 0:59 information as a key element in child 1:02 protection with our guest, Mr. Hamid 1:04 Patlima. Peace be upon you, Mr. Hamid. 1:07 Peace be upon you too. How are you, 1:10 Bunda? 1:10 I am well, praise be to Allah. How 1:11 about you, Mr. Hamid? 1:12 Praise be to Allah, I am well. 1:13 This topic will surely be very 1:16 important, especially at a time when 1:19 our children are so involved with their 1:22 gadgets, right? 1:23 That is correct. 1:24 Well, for clarity, we will listen to a 1:26 complete explanation from Mr. Hamid 1:28 Patlima. We invite you to send 1:33 questions via WhatsApp to 08111999720, 1:39 or you can call us directly in the 1:44 studio at 0218451512. Please go ahead, 1:49 Mr. Hamid. 1:49 Thank you, Bunda. In the name of Allah, 1:51 the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. 1:53 Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy 1:55 and blessings. Listeners of Rasio Radio 2:00 and viewers of Rasio media wherever you 2:04 are, especially in the cities of Batam, 2:08 Palembang, Pontianak, Sukabumi, Greater 2:13 Jakarta, Semarang, Magelang, Yogyakarta 2:17 , Bondowoso, and Banyuwangi. God 2:22 willing, today we will share important 2:25 information regarding child-friendly 2:28 information as a main element in child 2:31 protection. What is the key point? If 2:36 we refer to the Quran, what was 2:39 directly commanded by Allah to the 2:42 Prophet is to read. Reading is the key 2:48 where every individual, especially a 2:53 child, will obtain various information 2:57 that will then be expressed through 3:02 their mouth and hands. For that reason, 3:08 in the Convention on the Rights of the 3:13 Child, which was ratified by Indonesia 3:17 on August 25, 1990, through 3:21 Presidential Decree Number 36 of 1990, 3:25 there is an important article that 3:29 requires child-friendly information, 3:34 which is Article 13. There, a child is 3:38 given the freedom to express themselves 3:41 . Expressing oneself, whether through 3:47 the child's voice or through their 3:50 hands in the form of works, all depends 3:53 on what they read. So, if a child reads 4:01 positive information, whether from 4:06 various books or various content 4:10 packaged in gadgets, God willing, what 4:14 comes out will be positive. And the 4:21 same applies to the contrary. Now, this 4:23 contrary case is what then conflicts 4:26 with special protection or child 4:28 protection. Therefore, the child is 4:33 indeed given the freedom to express 4:36 themselves, but the state has 4:39 restrictions, there are limits 4:42 regulated by law. Do not let what is 4:48 expressed offend their friends, 4:52 teachers, or parents, or disturb public 4:58 order, or cause public unrest due to 5:03 their statements, paintings, or things 5:09 that others cannot simply accept. 5:14 So, it is freedom with responsibility, 5:16 right, Sir? 5:16 Yes. 5:17 Very well. 5:18 And that is heavily determined by the 5:21 information they receive from whatever 5:24 they are reading. So, from these 5:29 readings, Mother, I went around Banten 5:33 Province yesterday to ensure whether 5:37 every regency and city is adequate or 5:41 not. It turns out that almost every 5:47 village in Banten has already provided 5:51 at least a reading corner. Whether it's 5:57 at the village office or initiated by 6:01 residents who provide various types of 6:05 reading materials. With the 6:10 availability of these various reading 6:12 materials accessible to children, they 6:15 finally have choices. And Mother, that 6:20 is not only done by ordinary people; 6:23 there are also those who have been 6:26 entrusted with duties, especially from 6:29 the TNI or Polri, the Babinsa and 6:32 Bhabinkamtibmas, who have motorcycle 6:35 facilities. To be close to the children 6:41 , their motorcycles are modified to 6:45 provide reading boxes. 6:49 This is also great for removing the 6:51 specter or fear children have of these 6:53 officers, right? 6:54 Yes, and that is actually very 6:57 strategic in building a child's 7:00 character. Also, in building a child's 7:05 love for state apparatus, especially 7:08 those in the defense sector. It means 7:13 that, at the very least, by often 7:17 meeting with the Babinsa, the children 7:20 become interested in joining the TNI to 7:24 help safeguard the nation's integrity. 7:29 Then there are some children who have 7:33 access to the Bhabinkamtibmas, so they 7:36 at least get information on what 7:39 exactly the Bhabinkamtibmas does—do 7:43 they just ride around? And preventing 7:47 any actions that violate the law. Now, 7:52 with the children being facilitated by 7:56 our Bhabinkamtibmas and Babinsa friends 8:00 , they are very enthusiastic. Now, this 8:06 enthusiasm is something that cannot 8:11 just be supported by those who have the 8:17 authority. But if possible, every home 8:22 should become a learning source for 8:26 every child, and every child would want 8:29 to share, "Look, I have this book, do 8:33 you want to read it or borrow it?""But 8:37 with a condition, can I borrow your 8:39 book too?" This is the essence of 8:43 exchanging reading books in the 8:47 community, which will then make the 8:53 child possess more information that 8:58 becomes a personal asset for them. When 9:04 they want to express themselves, it 9:07 will show; a child who likes to read 9:11 compared to one who rarely reads will 9:14 be apparent from the vocabulary they 9:17 use, and the words that come out of 9:20 their mouths are always positive words; 9:24 there are no words that belittle others 9:27 . Where is the key? That is the 9:34 function of parents in ensuring the 9:37 reading materials accessed by the child 9:40 are, if possible, books that have been 9:43 filtered by adults. So, uh...Review, or 9:52 at least check whether the reading 9:56 material contains any of the three 9:59 types of negative information. The most 10:04 important one is, first, information 10:06 regarding violence. Is there any 10:09 violent language, or stories that are 10:13 not heroic but essentially involve 10:17 violence and demean others? Is there 10:21 any of that in the reading material? If 10:23 there is, it should be noted by the 10:27 adults. Then the second one is 10:30 information about pornography. 10:33 According to the legal definition of 10:38 pornography, even just from text or 10:43 words, if it makes someone feel aroused 10:48 or disturbed, it can be categorized as 10:53 such. Then the third one is regarding 10:57 intolerance. In these readings, are 11:01 there things that make others feel 11:04 discriminated against, or feel that 11:06 their ethnicity or background is being 11:10 belittled? So, adults who provide 11:16 child-friendly information to their 11:19 children should take the initiative. 11:25 You don't have to wait, because it is 11:28 already a duty of the state and there 11:30 are designated officials—especially 11:33 from the prosecutor's office, the 11:36 Ministry of Law and Human Rights, the 11:38 police, and intelligence—to filter 11:41 those readings. But as adults around 11:46 children, if we follow the mandate of 11:50 Law Number 35 of 2014 in Article 72, 11:54 one of the items is that we are asked 11:59 to provide supervision, monitoring, and 12:03 participate in the responsibility. One 12:09 of the things we need to participate in 12:12 regarding children's reading is 12:14 filtering it. So, let's try to look at 12:18 our children's books at home once in a 12:21 while to see if there are any negative 12:24 things as we mentioned earlier. As for 12:27 positive things, that is what we 12:29 naturally hope for. That is the first 12:32 point. Second, a child's freedom of 12:36 expression is heavily determined by 12:40 what they experience. So, experience. 12:45 Experience, ma'am, means not just 12:47 experiences within the home. Even 12:51 though 80%of a child's experience is 12:55 actually taken or copy-pasted from 13:00 their parents. So, if we see someone 13:05 intelligent in front of us, or the 13:07 opposite, it is actually a reflection 13:10 of their home. If at home, the child 13:14 has the experience of seeing their 13:18 father and mother always referring to 13:22 references or reading materials for 13:26 everything. 13:27 So, for example, 13:29 there is a child doing something, and 13:31 the parents don't know why the child is 13:33 acting this way. 13:34 Ah, we are just surprised, right, sir? 13:36 That means there is something there. 13:39 Yes, we already know that 13:40 You understand, right, sir? 13:41 that person is not becoming a true 13:45 reference. He 13:46 Alright. 13:47 wants to be free, actually wanting to 13:51 break out of that cycle to show he is 13:55 not wrong. But actually, it shows that 13:58 the person is not being responsible. So 14:01 , uh, mothers and fathers at home, it 14:04 becomes important that what is 14:06 experienced by the child, for instance, 14:09 they always see their father, or their 14:12 mother, or their grandfather, then the 14:15 neighborhood, that will be reflected 14:18 and only felt, mother, when the child 14:21 goes outside the neighborhood. 14:25 Mmm. 14:25 They interact in other neighborhoods, 14:27 and it will be seen, oh, this child is 14:29 from a neighborhood where the parents 14:31 always pay attention to their child's 14:33 reading. And then, the people in that 14:37 neighborhood are people who, well, at 14:39 least have one reading material, and we 14:42 don't go far, we are always close to 14:45 the Quran. And the Quran is not enough 14:49 just in, uh, Arabic, but also the 14:52 translation. Right now, mother, uh, I 14:55 am also recording Quranic 14:56 interpretations available on, uh, the 14:59 gadget provided by the Ministry of 15:01 Religious Affairs. So, uh, fathers and 15:05 mothers, we have been facilitated by 15:09 the state with, uh, the facilities 15:12 available to us; the state has provided 15:16 the content. We just need to take the 15:20 positive ones. Ah, Google has also 15:22 provided information. But this is what 15:26 is then, uh, a bit disturbing. Many 15:30 adults are consumed by hoaxes. Why? 15:33 Because they do not have many 15:36 references. And that will also be 15:38 carried over to the child. But if a 15:41 child is smart, they will question 15:44 whether what their mother is saying 15:46 makes sense, whether what their father 15:49 and mother or society is doing makes 15:51 sense. They will, uh, filter it 15:54 themselves. With the note that the 15:57 child already has the capacity. So what 16:00 is experienced, that is what then that 16:05 will be expressed, mother. With full 16:09 awareness. If they are not aware, it 16:11 means they have a problem. But with 16:15 awareness, they do things, uh, 16:18 expressed from their mouth or their 16:21 hands or their work, and that will 16:25 influence what the source of 16:28 information they experience is like. 16:33 So, for example, even though we are 16:35 still children, not everything we see 16:38 in our house, for example, what our 16:40 parents do, our extended family, 16:42 grandmother, grandfather, uncle, aunt, 16:44 it's not like we like everything they 16:46 do. 16:47 Yes. 16:48 But like it or not, we will tend to 16:50 copy that, right, sir? 16:52 Yes. 16:52 Good. 16:53 Because maybe it's because they see it 16:57 so often. Even though if judged by 17:01 outsiders, what they are doing is full 17:03 of, uh, for example, degrading other 17:06 people's dignity, that will come out of 17:09 their mouth, mother. And lastly, in 17:14 expressing, it depends on what they 17:18 feel. So, what is experienced, and 17:22 finally, what they feel. If they feel 17:26 that the result of their reading makes 17:30 them very joyful or makes them happy or 17:34 pleased, it will come out of, uh, their 17:39 mouth. The child's expression. 17:44 Therefore, Moms and Dads, regarding 17:48 this child-friendly information, it 17:51 will really determine whether the child 17:55 is truly free to express themselves. 17:59 That is the first point. Secondly, Moms 18:01 , under Article 14 of the Convention on 18:03 the Rights of the Child, this also 18:05 heavily depends on the child's reading 18:07 materials. Or the information they 18:12 obtain from facilities provided by the 18:15 government or the community, whether 18:18 through regional libraries or the 18:21 national library. Moms, the national 18:25 library is very complete, open 7 days a 18:28 week, and it is comfortable for us to 18:32 enjoy anything. The hope is that what 18:35 is in the National Library is also 18:36 followed by regional libraries. As it 18:39 turns out, in several provinces, it is 18:41 almost the same. Like in East Java, 18:45 they have a very luxurious provincial 18:49 library. And it becomes interesting for 18:56 every Mom and Dad if you can have a 19:00 membership card for the National 19:04 Library or regional or district/city 19:08 libraries. Because when the father and 19:14 mother have a library card, it will 19:17 automatically be followed by their 19:21 children. Does it require money? No, it 19:25 is free. All that is needed is just a 19:29 photo of your ID card, which we provide 19:32 , and the staff will automatically 19:34 verify it there. In the National 19:39 Library, they already use the Ministry 19:42 of Home Affairs 'database to see the 19:46 authenticity of the ID card provided. 19:50 It is interesting that we can access 19:53 everything from preschool age up to 19:56 those pursuing a PhD; it is all 19:59 facilitated, so please, Moms and Dads, 20:02 visit the library. Then second, the 20:06 mobile library. Now, the National 20:10 Library and regional libraries do not 20:14 want to just stay in one place; they 20:17 want to reach difficult areas, 20:20 districts, or villages that do not have 20:24 facilities yet. And then in those areas 20:29 , just like in our institution, they 20:33 come to bring books, having 20:38 automatically received permission from 20:41 the village head, the neighborhood head 20:44 , and the community leader. If these 20:48 three people have given their blessing, 20:50 the residents will automatically want 20:52 to come, the children will want to come 20:55 ; it is just a matter of how we 20:56 encourage this. Then, as I mentioned 21:00 earlier, there are the village military 21:03 officers and police officers, but there 21:06 was one child from Lampung, Mom. He was 21:10 only 8 years old at that time. Seeing 21:14 his father, a journalist, cover someone 21:17 who loved books, he then applied that 21:20 into his daily activities. So, in the 21:25 end, he had many books, he lent them to 21:27 his friends, and as a result, he made 21:29 many friends. And Mom, if a person is 21:34 active in the library, whatever we ask 21:38 them, they will answer. Why? Because 21:43 before the book is lent to his friends, 21:46 he has already devoured it completely. 21:49 Now, this becomes a strength. Related 21:53 to Article 14, when children have 21:56 access to child-friendly information, 21:59 they will always be thinking. So, 22:03 Article 14 is about freedom of thought. 22:08 Freedom of thought depends on the input 22:10 that enters one's mind. Through the 22:15 eyes and the mouth, the results of what 22:19 they process—from reading, 22:22 experiences, and feelings—are what 22:25 lead them to always think positively. 22:30 Thinking about negative things is 22:33 likely no longer there. Because they 22:36 are always receiving information. 22:38 Not busy with 22:39 their own busyness. 22:40 Positive information. 22:41 If there is negative information, as I 22:44 mentioned earlier, they receive, uh, a 22:50 warning or capacity, the ability from 22:53 the adults around them. "Son, if you 22:57 read information about violence, uh, 23:00 pornography, or intolerance, let it 23:02 only serve as a reminder for yourself." 23:07 So, it doesn't necessarily have to be 23:09 censored or forbidden, and the child 23:11 will... 23:12 So, save them from within themselves, 23:15 and we have set it up from the start. 23:19 If they get information or a "shield," 23:22 as the Mother said earlier, they are 23:24 reminded that if they encounter 23:27 violence, pornography, or intolerance, 23:29 it's just a reminder. 23:32 Right. 23:33 If possible, it shouldn't be expressed 23:35 through their words or actions. Even 23:39 saying "ah" to someone else is not 23:41 allowed, let alone physical actions; 23:45 once it's at 90 degrees, that's emotion 23:48 , that's it. 23:50 I'm sorry, Mr. Hamid, let me cut in. 23:52 Usually, if a child accidentally gets 23:54 negative information from outside and 23:56 asks their parents, some parents might 23:58 answer wisely, but others might say, " 24:00 Hey, that’s not allowed, say that 24:02 again and you’ll see!" What should 24:06 parents actually do when a child asks, 24:09 "Dad, Mom, I got this information from 24:12 outside, what is it really?" like that. 24:15 The mother should listen first. 24:17 Right. 24:18 Or the father should listen first to 24:21 what is being told, because 24:23 automatically, the story told by the 24:26 child will be structured into a 24:28 chronology. 24:30 Hmm. 24:31 From that chronology, it will be 24:33 discovered, "Oh, they got it from here. 24:36 " If we haven't provided the ability to 24:41 our child, that is our space to provide 24:43 them with capacity. 24:46 Helping to facilitate. 24:47 And that becomes a good practice where 24:50 the father and mother don't immediately 24:54 get emotional. That’s the key. For 24:57 those who handle children with problems 25:02 , we tell them to pause or, uh, take a 25:06 deep breath so they become calm. And 25:10 then, from the start, uh, we listen to 25:14 the story from our child. It will be 25:19 clear whether the person is being 25:22 emotional, or they are, uh, trying to 25:25 give a lesson to their child, or are 25:28 they paying attention to what their 25:34 child is about to say. If they already 25:37 possess the ability related to that, 25:40 that is what will then produce 25:43 brilliant ideas. 25:45 And perhaps parents should be grateful 25:47 that they are made the first point of 25:49 reference by their child, before anyone 25:50 else. Asking us first, whatever the 25:53 question is, we should be grateful if 25:55 we truly understand this. 25:56 Yes. And that actually does not just 25:59 happen naturally, Mother. It requires 26:02 attending training classes. In the 26:06 BKKBN, there is a class called Toddler 26:09 Family Development. However, Mother, 26:13 the Toddler Family Development is still 26:16 just a name and hasn't been optimal yet 26:19 . Then, there are many parents who are 26:22 unable to have discussions with their, 26:25 uh, teenage children. Ah, at the BKKBN, 26:29 there is also the BKR class, Teenage 26:31 Family Development. The other day, I 26:35 was very, uh, happy watching the 26:38 podcast of, uh, Sule and his eldest son 26:41 . In it, the relationship is very, uh, 26:46 interesting to observe from our 26:49 perspective as parents who want to 26:52 learn how to communicate with our 26:56 teenagers. The point is giving 100% 27:00 trust. If they already trust us and we 27:04 give trust to our children, God willing 27:06 , what happened earlier will not happen 27:09 . Now, what they read, what they feel, 27:14 and what they experience is what will 27:19 then determine what they think. So, 27:23 children are free to think. So, freedom 27:28 of thought is actually a human right 27:32 given by God for us to, uh, do or feel, 27:36 or express. But, it depends on the 27:41 adults who provide the information. If 27:45 everything is always, uh, full of 27:49 restrictions, the child, who is like 27:52 water, will be blocked and will look 27:56 for a place where they can be free. If 28:02 there is a gap, they will, uh, slide 28:04 through. So, the point is we provide 28:08 freedom, or through this child 28:11 convention, that freedom doesn't mean 28:15 completely free, but free, uh, with 28:19 restrictions. So, they think, for 28:22 example, if we live in Indonesia, we 28:25 already have the ideological boundaries 28:27 of Pancasila. Meaning, what they think 28:31 about should not conflict with, uh, the 28:33 ideology. If they already have the 28:38 strength of faith and it is based on 28:41 the Qur'an, Hadith, and then based on 28:45 the Sirah Nabawiyah, the companions' 28:48 biographies, and then heroic, positive 28:52 stories from fighters, whether they are 28:56 religious or national fighters who 28:59 defended this country, this is what 29:03 will inspire them. And that is what 29:07 they will keep thinking about, how we 29:09 can get out of various problems. The 29:12 key is child-friendly information. Then 29:16 the second thing, in this Article 14, 29:19 it will determine whether the child has 29:22 a conscience or not. From your readings 29:27 , Mother, or what they experience or 29:29 what they feel. Indeed, every child has 29:34 been equipped by God with a conscience 29:37 chip. Because the Prophet has also 29:41 stated that the highest judge is the 29:43 heart. The child is unhappy if someone 29:50 disturbs their toys or if someone 29:56 litters because their conscience 30:02 rejects it. He is quick to point out 30:07 such things. But, Mother, that will be 30:11 broken when they see their father, 30:14 mother, or the adults around them 30:17 overstepping the rules. For example, if 30:22 littering is forbidden, yet they throw 30:25 trash themselves. Well, that is when 30:28 their conscience begins to erode. "My 30:32 dad does it, my mom does it too." 30:37 And it's not just littering; it's also 30:39 feeling guilty but thinking, "Oh, it's 30:42 fine." 30:44 I once 30:46 at one meeting, there was a person who 30:49 was actually educated, but based on his 30:53 behavior, he 30:55 Didn't show it. 30:57 He didn't show it; he kept littering. 31:01 We approached him with high regard, 31:04 saying, "Sir, please pick that up," but 31:07 he just ignored it, saying, "There are 31:11 cleaners for that, so they'll have work 31:14 to do," that was his assumption. Now, 31:19 that is in stark contrast to an 31:23 experience I had at a company, at a... 31:30 an instant noodle company that enforces 31:34 high standards. A director, when he 31:40 dropped even a tiny piece of trash, 31:44 would be reminded by the cleaning staff 31:49 because the director had burdened them 31:54 or added to their workload. If it were 32:00 already clean, they wouldn't have to 32:02 spend energy picking up that trash. 32:06 Extra energy. 32:06 Yes, because that company has instilled 32:15 a culture of elevating human dignity; 32:20 even littering is not permitted. 32:24 And when we uphold such values, success 32:27 will be lasting, right Sir? As we can 32:30 see for ourselves, just as Mr. Hamit 32:33 said. 32:34 If we look at European countries—or 32:38 someone often says this on the radio— 32:43 those are not Islamic-based countries, 32:47 yet Islam is found there. 32:51 Yes. 32:52 Compared to the opposite: in Islamic 32:55 countries, but Islam cannot be found 32:59 there. Why is that? Because it only 33:03 exists in memorization and sermons. Now 33:09 , this is what is actually practiced 33:12 there. 33:13 Yes, whereas Islam actually possesses 33:15 universal values that can be practiced 33:18 by anyone of any religion, right? 33:20 Unfortunately, it is less practiced 33:22 here. 33:22 Ah, the... 33:23 This one, Sir. 33:24 If we follow history, the second 33:27 Prophet Adam is the Messenger of Allah. 33:31 He valued universality, he fought for 33:36 human rights, children's rights, 33:40 women's rights, and fought for how we 33:44 should have a conscience even if we are 33:49 stepped on or belittled, always saying, 33:54 "I pity this person for acting that way 33:58 ." If only he knew that I am a human 34:02 being. 34:02 Even saving water for ablution was 34:04 regulated by the Messenger of Allah. 34:05 Yes. Now, that is because the highest 34:11 judge within ourselves is the heart, 34:14 which can then determine whether this 34:18 is a good thing or not. Ah, it just 34:24 depends on what if the cognitive or if 34:30 their cognitive is already dead. So, 34:32 it's blank. Now, this is where we then 34:36 need therapists. That is related to, uh 34:40 , article 14. But the key, once again, 34:44 Mother, is what they see. Especially 34:48 from the reading materials provided. 34:51 Therefore, Fathers and Mothers, if 34:53 possible, increase the reading 34:55 materials for our children. Remember, 34:59 from zero to four years old, 50%of a 35:02 child's development will grow. Then 35:07 from five to eight, it's another 50. So 35:11 , in total, from zero to eight years, 35:15 80%of the six aspects of a child's 35:18 intelligence or development are formed. 35:24 One of them is religious and moral 35:26 values, which are the result of reading 35:29 . Then the cognitive aspect also comes 35:33 from reading. Then fine motor, gross 35:37 motor skills; if they want to be a 35:40 great athlete, for example, that comes 35:43 from reading the autobiographies of 35:46 successful people. I once watched a 35:51 segment on Tiger Woods, who from the 35:56 beginning was molded by his father, who 36:01 was also a golf coach. So, the child 36:06 was molded, although later in his life 36:09 there were negative actions, as they 36:11 were also shaped by his father. So, he 36:16 was a bit in conflict with humanitarian 36:19 values, especially regarding belittling 36:22 women, because of the experience he saw 36:26 in his relationship with his father. 36:30 So, if we take the example of the 36:33 Prophet, Mr. Hamid. He was said to be 36:36 unable to read when he grew up. But 36:39 that means the experience and the 36:42 intuition he gained were extraordinary 36:44 and could meet all the criteria humans 36:47 need, sir, to become good human beings. 36:50 Yes. So we just need to read. Uh, the 36:54 Sirah Nabawiyah. 36:57 So for regions that might still be 36:59 lacking reading books, they shouldn't 37:00 be discouraged, right, sir? 37:02 Yes. And we can learn. I have a friend 37:08 who studies the children of indigenous 37:11 tribes. For them, the PhD equivalent is 37:16 the ability to climb an oak tree and 37:21 retrieve honey. Let's ask a PhD 37:25 graduate from a public or private 37:27 university to try climbing that tree. 37:30 They wouldn't be able to do it. So the 37:33 concept of someone's ability is 37:35 determined by the person who creates 37:39 the concept itself. 37:42 Right. 37:42 So it is not based on the judgment of 37:44 people from the outside. Now, this 37:47 depends on us in how we build or 37:50 provide access. Then, in article 14, 37:55 children are already given the freedom 37:58 to practice their religion. The key to 38:03 their religious practice is also seen 38:06 from the literacy of the child 38:08 themselves. What they read, then what 38:12 they see, and what they feel. 38:15 So, reading—and perhaps "reading" in 38:17 quotes here—means what they read from 38:19 nature, what they read from what is 38:20 happening around them. 38:22 Yes, and just like last night, I 38:26 watched, um, films about the story of 38:30 Prophet Solomon. He had such, um, great 38:34 ability there; even though there were 38:37 challenges, he overcame them all. And 38:42 lastly, Mother, regarding 38:43 child-friendly information, it is 38:45 stated in Article 17 of the Convention 38:48 on the Rights of the Child. In Article 38:53 17, um, the state must not be 38:57 undermined by, um, media companies. 39:03 Therefore, media owners need to think 39:09 about how to build the capacity of 39:14 their readers. So, their readers or 39:19 those watching the content they produce 39:24 should develop media and digital 39:27 literacy within themselves as children. 39:34 Adults will, um, become the monitors 39:39 and supervisors of the information 39:43 packaged by media companies, which we 39:47 already know have the mission of 39:51 gaining the widest possible profit. 39:57 Although behind that, they also have 39:59 other missions. Ah, those other 40:02 missions are what, for fathers and 40:04 mothers, we need to identify: what is 40:07 this media's mission? How else can we 40:11 read the vision and mission of the 40:14 media itself if not by looking at the 40:17 company's portfolio? 40:20 Mmm. 40:21 Who owns this company, and then who are 40:24 the shareholders. From our ability to 40:30 read about the owners, then the CEOs, 40:34 and then the editors. If all of this is 40:40 conveyed to the child, the child will 40:42 have more choices. I will choose, um, 40:46 media—print media or electronic media 40:49 , whether in the form of, um, TV, um, 40:53 radio, or in the form of other works, 40:57 um, from film companies, then soap 41:00 opera production companies, and then 41:04 what is now made easier with the 41:07 existence of YouTube, Facebook, or 41:10 Instagram. Fathers and mothers or 41:14 adults around the child need to build 41:16 this child's capacity. So that they do 41:20 not, um, live in a vacuum or an empty 41:23 space, where if they are force-fed 41:26 information, they will just accept it. 41:30 Maybe for media, um, um, we can still 41:33 regulate the control, Sir. But for 41:36 advertisements, especially on, um, the 41:38 internet, for example, those ads just 41:40 pop up suddenly. Sometimes they don't 41:43 understand, um, hours like 41:45 child-friendly hours or hours when 41:47 children are likely already asleep, 41:49 because the internet is 24 hours and 41:51 global, right? How do we deal with this 41:53 , Sir? 41:55 That also actually comes from, um, the 42:00 behavior of the gadget user themselves. 42:05 So, if they frequently, um, access 42:08 information A, then the algorithm of, 42:12 um, Google, which owns the, um, ads, 42:15 will respond by offering things 42:18 according to the interests or habits of 42:22 that gadget user. Now, for that reason, 42:26 if we already know about that, that is 42:28 what we need to build the capacity for 42:30 in our children. If, for example, we 42:34 get an ad we don't like, Google gives 42:36 us options, right? 42:38 Yes. 42:39 Do you want to "Don't recommend," do 42:42 not recommend. 42:43 Or do you want to stop it, but it asks, 42:45 "Why do you want to stop that?""Maybe 42:48 it's immoral or something, 42:50 inappropriate, or repetitive." It 42:53 depends on us reminding our children to 42:56 build their capacity. So, the point, 43:00 Ma'am, is that the key lies with the 43:03 adults around the child to enrich the 43:07 child so they have the freedom to 43:10 express themselves, think, and then 43:13 access various information, while 43:16 control remains with the adults, not 43:20 the child. And an important point that 43:24 we must also build regarding the 43:26 provision of child-friendly information 43:29 is building the child's capacity and 43:34 also building the capacity of the 43:36 people who provide the facilities. The 43:40 Ministry of Women's Empowerment 43:43 encourages having, uh, child-friendly 43:46 journalists. So, those who are part of 43:52 that journalist group have started to 43:55 be careful in packaging the news that 43:58 will be, uh, reported. Then they have 44:04 also started to be cautious not to let 44:07 the child's identity be exposed because 44:10 there are laws regulating that, 44:13 especially for child perpetrators, 44:16 witnesses, or victims of crimes. Now, 44:20 they have started, uh, to have, uh, 44:23 awareness. Although we still see some 44:27 adults, especially law enforcement, who 44:31 are actually showing their failure to 44:34 prevent such incidents from happening, 44:38 but instead, they hold press 44:41 conferences for their failure. But 44:45 because our people, uh, really like 44:48 sensation 44:49 sensation, there is 44:50 yes 44:51 a Police Chief, or Police PR, or 44:53 Regional Police PR holding daily press 44:56 conferences. So it's like there are 45:00 police celebrities now, well, that's 45:03 not his job; his job is 45:06 yes 45:08 how to build the public's capacity to 45:10 be law-abiding, but what happens now is 45:13 people get arrested first, then told 45:15 this violates the law. It should be 45:19 yes, socializing the laws, preventing, 45:23 yes 45:24 because law enforcement, Ma'am, is 99% 45:27 socialization. 45:29 Yes, even, uh, if there is going to be 45:31 camera-based ticketing, there is a 45:33 warning given first, right, on the road 45:35 . "You are under surveillance by, uh, 45:39 traffic cameras," for example, and then 45:42 we become aware, so the government's 45:44 intention isn't to, uh, trick us, 45:46 waiting for us to slip up just to 45:49 penalize us. That's not the goal, it 45:52 should be possible for this to happen 45:54 in all areas of the, uh, country, right 45:56 , Sir? 45:57 Because of that, we can understand it, 46:00 because people like that previously had 46:03 similar experiences and they want to 46:06 apply the experience they went through 46:09 to others, even though that is still 46:12 very ignorant. 46:15 Is that actually revenge, or thinking 46:17 that, well, I was treated like that and 46:18 I turned out successful like this? What 46:22 is that really? 46:23 Ignorance, the ignorance of that person 46:26 who justifies things like 46:29 Alright. 46:31 uh, the term prison being changed to 46:34 correctional institution is actually 46:38 not to enlighten, but to build the 46:41 capacity of that person to realize 46:45 again that what they did as an 46:48 individual conflicts with the rules or 46:52 regulations. It doesn’t deter; what 46:56 exists is a form of deterrence where, 46:58 if we look at the current atmosphere, 47:01 press conferences seem to suggest that 47:04 people will learn and be deterred from 47:06 doing it again. 47:07 As if that were a success. 47:10 Yet, let’s look; before someone 47:14 points a dangerous object, we want to 47:17 ensure it won’t happen again. It 47:23 turns out it happened again yesterday 47:25 because it is something that is 47:27 ultimately ineffective. True 47:30 effectiveness is found when we are 47:33 commanded by the Quran through Surah 47:36 Al-Asr: by time, all people are in loss 47:40 , except those who always remind others 47:43 in the context of goodness and patience 47:47 . This is repeated again in Surah 47:49 Al-Balad, and repeated in several other 47:52 surahs, the essence of which is that 47:54 humans are prone to forgetting; they 47:56 like to forget. Well, with the call to 47:59 prayer five times a day, we are 48:01 actually being reminded. Hello, look 48:04 here. Hey, you’ve broken the rules. 48:09 You have done things that go against 48:12 God’s laws. Oh, come back to, uh, 48:15 complain to Him. That’s the point. So 48:18 , fathers and mothers, with 48:21 child-friendly information, the hope is 48:24 that in our country every adult will 48:27 have the awareness to facilitate 48:30 children. In what way? First, read the 48:35 reading material beforehand to see if 48:38 there are things that contradict 48:41 religious values, conflict with values 48:44 prevailing in society, or go against 48:46 the ideological values of Pancasila. If 48:51 it is, uh, contradictory, our duty is 48:54 not to immediately prevent it, but to 48:57 build the child's capacity so that 49:00 later in that reading, you will find 49:03 things that should not or do not need 49:07 to be expressed through your mouth 49:10 because it will hurt others. But that 49:13 just serves as a reminder. That is the 49:15 duty of an adult. And then facilitate, 49:18 by establishing a library. The state 49:23 has already spent, uh, a lot of 49:25 investment to build libraries. Do not 49:30 let those library books, uh, go 49:33 untouched, still 49:35 slick. 49:35 Slick. Ah, a good library, if possible, 49:39 is a library where the books are worn 49:42 out. Which means many people are 49:45 reading those books. If we see great 49:49 figures with backgrounds of, uh, large 49:52 interpretation books, it’s worth 49:55 asking: did they actually have time to 49:58 read those interpretations? Is it just, 50:02 what? Uh, for show, ah, that is also 50:05 needed. 50:06 And maybe we also need to remind, 50:08 especially ourselves, what, uh, Hamid, 50:10 if we have a lot of books like that. 50:12 We share them. 50:13 Don’t just display them. But offer 50:15 them, asking who wants to borrow them, 50:17 or if we want to, uh, take turns 50:19 reading them, right, Sir? 50:21 But the main key is that the parents 50:24 must read first, or adults in this case 50:26 , yes, Mothers. And lastly, a child is 50:30 a reflection of the people around them. 50:37 So if they love knowledge, it means 50:40 that place deeply loves knowledge. It 50:45 just depends on how we, uh, ensure that 50:48 . Thus, hopefully what we have shared 50:52 here, uh, receives note or attention 50:55 from fathers and mothers at home. 50:59 Child-friendly information as a primary 51:01 element in child protection. That is 51:03 correct, Mother. 51:04 Uh, thank you very much, Mr. Hamid 51:06 Fathima. Uh, I have become, uh, aware 51:08 now of how we, as parents, must always 51:11 advise our children and our wider 51:13 environment, until the state should 51:15 also never tire of advising its 51:17 citizens. Because even God, who has 51:20 already told us when it is time for 51:22 Fajr, Dhuhr, and Asr prayers, still 51:25 requires the Adhan to be called to 51:27 remind us every single day since the 51:29 Adhan first existed until now, right, 51:32 Sir? 51:32 And there are loudspeakers too. 51:34 Yes. 51:34 Now, they are also on gadgets. 51:37 Yes, even though we should already know 51:38 just by looking at the position of the 51:40 sun. But still, God continues to 51:43 facilitate, uh, ease for us to, uh, 51:45 come to Him and worship Him. Well, 51:48 Subhanallah, uh, brothers and sisters, 51:50 I am sure we all learned a lot from 51:53 this event regarding the explanation of 51:55 child-friendly information, a primary 51:58 element in child protection. We thank 52:01 Mr. Hamid Fathima once again for his 52:03 enlightenment and also thank all the 52:05 brothers and sisters who have 52:07 participated in today's child 52:09 protection event. I am Nurfitri Taher, 52:12 and also Neja Anis, signing off. We 52:16 will meet again, God willing, at the 52:18 next child protection event. 52:19 Subhanakallahumma Wabihamdika Asyhadu 52:22 Alla Ilaha Illa Anta Astaghfiruka Wa 52:24 Atubu Ilaih. Wassalamualaikum 52:26 Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh. 52:28 Waalaikumsalam