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0:09 Brail TV. 0:15 >> Hello. Peace be upon you, Brother 0:18 Ehsanudin. Peace be upon 0:23 >> you. 0:24 >> How are you this morning, Brother 0:26 Ihsanudin? Is the atmosphere bright and 0:28 cheerful or what? Are you healthy? 0:32 >> God willing. 0:34 >> God willing. 0:36 >> Alhamdulillah. Brother Insanudin, we 0:41 want to highlight a term that has 0:43 emerged in the public, namely the issue 0:46 of integrity and also the legitimacy of 0:48 officials. Starting from the fake 0:56 diploma case to the cases of 0:58 educational institutions. There is 1:03 something to be highlighted, is this 1:08 government manipulative or are its 1:10 officials manipulative? They are not 1:17 held to the values of integrity and 1:19 honesty, but behind it, it is 1:21 increasingly apparent that there is no 1:23 honesty in these officials. We also 1:29 questioned Mr. Hasanuddin on how the 1:31 Constitutional Court handled the 1:33 controversy surrounding the validity of 1:35 the vice president's diploma 1:37 equivalency letter, leading to articles 1:39 that became controversial among the 1:41 public. Then, Mr. Ihsanuddin, looking 1:46 at it from this perspective, we saw the 1:48 government's legitimacy crisis because 1:50 public trust and acceptance of the 1:52 government are weakening. Furthermore, 1:59 we have this latest case, in a prison, 2:01 which turns out to be open to the 2:03 public, continuously revealing these 2:05 lies, what are they actually covering 2:08 up by officials and corruptors? They're 2:15 breaking the law, breaking everything. 2:19 It will increasingly be shown whether 2:21 in the future what is being covered up 2:23 is budgeting or ee ee to what extent ee 2:25 damage like that will continue to be 2:27 exposed, Bang Hanudin, like that, yes, 2:30 from the elements of the government, 2:32 the apparatus will continue to be shown 2:34 like that, what will it be like in the 2:36 future, Bangudin, Bang Sudin, see the 2:39 root of it, what is actually happening, 2:41 like that, yes, the crisis in the 2:43 legitimacy of this government, then we 2:45 are going abroad as well, Bang Isin, we 2:47 want to highlight the conflict between 2:50 Saudi and Yemen, which is becoming more 2:52 and more widespread, right? If in the 2:57 last few months we have focused on the 2:59 Strait of Hormus, now we see that there 3:01 is another fight there, right? But 3:07 let's see the position of America and 3:09 also the West in this matter, like how 3:11 they want to support Saudi, how they 3:13 want to support Yemen, right? In fact, 3:19 we are positioning ourselves for big 3:21 countries or Indonesia from the Saudi 3:23 and Yemeni conflict because this 3:25 conflict continues to spread. How does 3:29 Bang Insanudin highlight this from a 3:31 geopolitical and economic perspective? 3:34 So Bang Hanudin. Let's raise these two 3:36 things first, Bang Hanudin. Thank You. 3:42 Alhamdulillahiabbil alaminatu wasalam 3:47 ala asil mursalin waalalui wasbihi 3:50 ajmain. Allah sayidina Muhammad 3:56 Muhammad subhanaka la ilma lana illaana 3:59 inaka antalim hakim. Rabbana ilman who 4:08 is recording, get ready to record. 4:11 >> The recording is safe. 4:17 >> I already know you are peacocking. 4:18 Ready. We are from the outside first. 4:25 We are from the outside. Ee we are 4:31 talking from the outside too, not just 4:33 the hote masa lawan 4:36 >> ee disturbing H oil troops 4:39 >> through BEP Almad 4:41 >> Saudi Red Sea. 4:42 >> Yes. 4:45 >> But we start from the powerless UN. 4:52 >> Yes. The UN that does not produce ee 4:56 anything that is beneficial for peace. 4:59 >> Heeh. 5:01 >> The UN that is a duck geduk ngesot. 5:04 >> He. 5:07 >> So, so if yesterday we were talking 5:09 about oki who was in a coma, then the 5:11 UN ended up just becoming a stage for 5:13 various countries 'speech competitions. 5:17 >> So it's like a festival event, huh. Wow 5:20 . 5:20 >> Yes. a speech event. 5:24 >> Even though what was discussed was four 5:26 things, AI, trade, war, and this is the 5:35 last interesting thing, pandemic prepar 5:37 . 5:41 >> Hm. 5:42 >> Preparation for a pandemic. As if a 5:46 pandemic ee was being prepared. Hm. 5:52 >> This reminds me of the global pandemic 5:54 simulation conducted by John Hopkins 5:56 University Covid. 5:58 >> Yes. 6:00 >> Well, I want to remind listeners that 6:07 these results mean, in my calculations, 6:10 in the next 2-3 years. At the latest, 6:16 in 2028-29. There 6:19 >> will be a pandemic. There will be a 6:23 pandemic because they are experiencing 6:25 the benefits of the vaccine. They are 6:29 experiencing the benefits of COVID. The 6:35 benefit for them is that they are able 6:36 to restrict activities that are 6:38 actually crippling. They implement 6:43 lockdowns, they block 6:46 >> social relationships except through 6:48 media and social media. And that means 6:55 it's all fake, and that means 6:56 interactions are limited, like prayers 6:58 are held at a distance, and even 6:59 mosques are closed. I remind you of 7:09 this because Indonesia has adopted and 7:11 adapted it through the new health law, 7:13 which in Article 400 or so states that 7:15 in extraordinary circumstances, no one 7:17 is allowed to resist. If they resist, 7:22 they will be fined and detained. 7:27 Previously, this was not the case, but 7:28 now Indonesia has such pressure through 7:30 the law. Frankly, I am very, very 7:39 worried about watching the United 7:41 Nations General Assembly on September 7:44 24, 2026, in New York. And my crisis is 7:54 one of those four issues: uh, how AI 7:56 works, how trade works, how warfare 7:59 works, and how pandemic preparedness 8:01 works. And it worries me because this 8:05 is a global status. I'm really 8:09 concerned about the position of the 8:10 sentences that appear behind the 8:12 pandemic. Once again, this is because 8:17 they repeat their success in dictating 8:19 the world. I'm one of the people, I'm 8:24 not saying I'm the only one who fought 8:25 COVID and vaccines in Indonesia. So I 8:30 was considered someone who was very 8:32 opposed to vaccines and Covid-19 at 8:34 that time. It went viral, how I refused 8:39 thermometer scans, right? And I also 8:43 rejected how the COVID incident 8:45 happened, so my statement proved that 8:47 Covid-19 wasn't imported from Wuhan, 8:49 Kube 8:52 >> H, 8:52 >> but actually from America. This was 8:55 later confirmed by T Gabar's statement 8:57 in June 2026 that America had 120 9:05 biological laboratories, 30 of which 9:07 were in Ukraine, and I wrote in 9:08 November 2024 in my book, corporate 9:11 culture behind the pandemic. Once again 9:16 , because they felt victorious. 9:21 Meanwhile, today, their war really 9:22 makes them anxious because Iran is able 9:25 to survive, China refuses to submit. 9:30 Russia continues to attack relentlessly 9:32 because Russia itself is being attacked 9:34 by the West. 9:37 >> That's why the title of the government 9:39 in the West changed from Ukraine, the 9:41 Ria process, to Ukraine, slash, west 9:43 versus Russia. The sentence was already 9:46 like that. Now they have the courage to 9:47 write it like that. If I say it clearly 9:51 , NATO versus Ukraine, right? Uh, NATO 9:55 versus Russia. Well, if that's the 9:59 story, then what we are actually facing 10:01 is a power that wants to dictate the 10:09 world through violence. Ah, that's 10:13 where their legitimacy is based on the 10:15 legitimacy of violence. In their 10:18 language, peace through strength. How 10:22 peace is forced through force. A That's 10:29 what makes the position in Washington 10:31 when the general assembly, ee M, ee UN 10:34 general assembly, ee, ee, actually, ee, 10:37 Jinping and Trump, ee, don't produce 10:40 many decisions. They are just managing 10:46 the conflict so that it doesn't become 10:47 an open war. Earth minerals still can't 10:52 be exported from China to America. ee, 10:57 Nvidia still can't sell its chips to 11:00 China, right? Tariffs remain high. The 11:05 Taiwan issue hasn't been resolved, nor 11:07 has the Iran issue. Wow, that's 11:09 exciting. 11:09 >> Yes. This means that if you look at the 11:13 battle map, the world is increasingly 11:15 unclear where it's going. So, if we 11:18 start from, for example, Angga asked 11:20 about 11:22 >> Yemen, how Saudi Arabia feels about the 11:25 Red Sea region in Elandep. 11:30 >> For me, that's because America has 11:32 allowed Saudi Arabia to run out of 11:33 storage, or shrink its industrial 11:35 military, and that's how it will buy 11:37 more from America, that's how it sees 11:39 it. 11:42 >> Hehe. 11:44 >> So, he'll buy more from America, that's 11:46 how it sees it. He asked for America's 11:49 help to deal with HTI in 11:51 >> the Red Sea region, and America said, " 11:53 >> Please handle it, we'll handle the rest 11:56 ." 11:56 >> Yes. So, judging from this latest 12:06 situation, I'd say the situation is 12:11 indeed full of uncertainty. 12:12 >> Hmm. And that's indicated by the United 12:19 Nations General Assembly meeting on 12:21 September 24-26 and the US-China Summit 12:28 . 12:29 >> Hehe. 12:30 >> Which also doesn't give the impression 12:32 that they don't want open war, but the 12:34 conflict continues. Now, if we look at 12:43 this from a hegemonic perspective, then 12:45 we can imagine that the General 12:47 Assembly has seen that the UN Security 12:49 Council is powerless. 12:56 >> Hmm. 12:57 >> The UN is incapable of achieving world 12:59 peace. And because of that, the global 13:05 south countries have taken an open 13:06 stance that they no longer like America 13:08 and Israel. So when Netanyahu spoke, 13:15 most countries left the 13:19 >> courtroom. And when Trump spoke, the 13:23 Iranians protested because Trump 13:24 declared he 13:26 >> would carry out a devastating attack. 13:32 Iran and its choice if not to make 13:34 peace, according to America, and 13:40 >> Iran's proposal was completely rejected 13:42 by America. What they were asked to do 13:45 was follow America's will. The language 13:48 yesterday was not to submit or submit. 13:50 There was 13:51 >> nothing else. 13:54 >> Well, that means again, America is 13:55 truly in a position to demonstrate its 13:58 power and all countries are forced to 14:03 submit and submit. That's why Iran 14:05 issued a statement. If we don't fight 14:09 back, there will be no country in the 14:11 world 14:13 >> that will fight back. 14:15 >> That goes back to the story of COVID 14:17 and vaccines. 14:18 >> Hmm. No country put up resistance 14:21 except China yesterday. 14:23 >> Hmm. 14:25 >> So when COVID was faking, it was only 14:27 China. China didn't reject Piser. China 14:30 didn't reject Western vaccines. 14:36 >> But China put up resistance in the form 14:38 of: 14:39 >> first, COVID didn't originate in Wuhan, 14:42 Hubei. 14:43 >> Second, 14:46 >> they make their own vaccines, Sinop and 14:48 Sinopek, so they can export. On the one 14:51 hand, they accept imports, but on the 14:53 other hand, they also export. 14:56 >> At that time, China was the first 14:58 agenda item. That's 15:00 >> right. 15:01 >> Yes. That was the initial agenda, 15:03 though. 15:04 >> Yes. That's because they intended to 15:07 attack China, but China managed to hold 15:09 out. 15:09 >> Well, that's why I reminded them in my 15:11 initial sentence. 15:12 >> Yes. 15:13 >> Pay attention to the future pandemic 15:15 situation. 15:15 >> Hmm. I think this is the first media 15:19 outlet in the world, in Indonesia, to 15:21 warn its listeners. Be careful here 15:25 >> because this is an extraordinary trap 15:27 set by this group of people. They 15:30 already feel they have competitors, 15:31 they already feel they have a 15:33 formidable opponent. And they already 15:37 feel that their agendas on the global 15:39 stage are unmatched. Uh, their programs 15:43 are being challenged by SEO, their 15:44 programs are being challenged by braks. 15:47 Their money is declining in quality, 15:48 the legitimacy of the dollar is 15:50 declining, the legitimacy of payment 15:52 instruments is declining, digital 15:54 legitimacy is declining. Try it. 15:56 >> Heeh. 15:57 >> Ah, that's interesting here. I even 16:01 discussed reading the AI discussion 16:03 battle. Wow, that's extraordinary, 16:07 extraordinary. What I didn't hear was 16:10 that the discussion was conducted well 16:12 in Indonesia. That's why I'm opening 16:15 this now in Rasil. 16:18 >> How should we truly be aware of this 16:19 global struggle that will have a 16:21 profound impact on Indonesia? Well, the 16:25 legitimacy crisis on the global stage 16:27 was based on the violence 16:31 >> spreading to Indonesia. Well, the 16:34 Bangta Prahara movement has called it a 16:36 quadrant between legal and legitimacy. 16:43 >> Someone might have a formal, legal 16:44 position, but they're not legitimate. 16:47 Like in the case of Gibran, he's legal. 16:50 >> Yes. So Jimle, Yusril, Rocky Gerung all 16:53 feel they're already legally and 16:55 formally legitimate. 16:58 >> How can Yusril say something like that, 17:00 how can Jimle say something like that, 17:02 Rocky Gerung also says something like 17:04 that. 17:05 >> Those people are like that. 17:08 >> What I think is the legality of their 17:10 legitimacy is unbalanced. 17:13 >> Heeh. 17:14 >> He has a legal position, but he doesn't 17:16 have a legitimate position. Hm. 17:20 >> Well, that's what was then reflected in 17:22 the student meeting in Jogja as Misery 17:24 Indonesia. 17:27 >> Well, 17:27 >> that's good, those students. These 17:30 students are Misery Indonesia. Why? 17:33 Because they see a problem within the 17:35 government. Now, once we get 17:38 >> into the story of 17:40 >> global legitimacy and national 17:42 legitimacy, people don't see the system 17:44 . Hmm. 17:46 >> People only see political behavior. 17:48 >> H. 17:52 >> Yet, when I mentioned legitimacy based 17:54 on peace through strength, and now 17:56 legitimacy in Indonesia, its legality 17:58 is based on the fake 1945 Constitution. 18:04 >> H. 18:04 >> Because the original 1945 Constitution 18:07 was amended by an election that was not 18:09 trusted. So, in fact, the legality they 18:12 have is a fake legality. Because they 18:16 are experiencing a legitimacy crisis. 18:18 How did this fake legality occur? 18:21 Because the 1945 Constitution is a fake 18:24 Law, the system is fake. It seems true, 18:28 genuine, honest, but it's fake. There 18:32 is no legitimacy in falsehood. Woe to 18:38 those who cheat. Bright are those who 18:40 live on a stage of falsehood. Well, 18:43 that's how it looks. So I don't know 18:47 why Angga started like that. 18:52 >> Because, 18:55 >> frankly, I prepared well for this 18:58 >> interview today. Whoever, whether ah or 19:02 whoever, I will talk about this 19:04 understanding. 19:06 >> I'm in a very anxious position. Hmm. 19:13 >> Me, yesterday, even when I explained 19:15 this to someone, I almost shed tears 19:17 because what kind of people are these? 19:22 What is this national stage like? 19:25 Looking at the situation, you're 19:27 >> holding on like hell. Look at the 19:31 government's communication style, 19:34 >> everything is OK, you know. It's as if 19:37 they already have a big problem. 19:39 >> Yes. 19:40 >> There's a big problem you haven't 19:42 addressed, namely the problem of 19:43 falsehood. 19:44 >> Hmm. H 19:46 >> which ultimately gave rise to what you 19:48 call a legitimacy crisis. 19:50 >> Now, let's dissect it. 19:53 >> How did this legitimacy crisis occur? 19:56 >> Where did it come from? August 10. 20:01 >> Hmm. 20:04 >> August 10, 2022 20:08 >> 202. The Indonesian People's 20:10 Consultative Assembly decided that the 20:13 four amendments to the 1945 20:14 Constitution 20:23 >> were the same as the 1945 Constitution 20:26 enacted on August 18, 1945, confirmed 20:29 by Presidential Decree on July 5, 1919. 20:31 Underline the words, "four amendments." 20:39 The 4th amendment to the 1945 20:41 Constitution uses the phrase, " 20:45 >> Yes, the 20:46 >> 1945 Constitution was confirmed on 20:48 August 18, 1945, as if it were 20:51 confirmed by presidential decree on 20:55 July 5, 1951. How can it be that it was 20:57 amended four times and said to be the 21:00 same 21:01 >> as the 1945 Constitution and as if it 21:03 were enacted, when in fact it is 21:05 different. In fact, it is different. 21:08 Isn't that false? That's not legitimacy 21:11 , that's not what's called lying to the 21:13 Indonesian people. 21:14 >> Hm. That's 21:17 >> lying. Then I found another study by 21:21 the Constitutional Commission. 21:23 >> Hm. H, 21:24 >> who mentioned first that there had been 21:30 a paradigm contradiction in the 21:32 amendments. Besides the paradigm 21:36 contradiction, there was also 21:37 inconsistency in the four amendments. 21:42 Just imagine a paradigm contradiction, 21:44 an inconsistency. Then someone said 21:50 >> in my debate in the people's voice, the 21:53 >> state does not have an ideology. 21:56 >> It's people who have ideology. Well, 21:59 that means he is unable to 22:00 differentiate 22:03 >> between the state as a legal entity 22:04 born from people who are born of nature 22:06 . 22:08 >> Heeh. Heeh. Reh person and nature, reh. 22:12 >> Reh person and nature reh are called 22:15 that, you know. A 22:16 >> legal entity born by law, a legal 22:19 entity born by nature. Reersen is a 22:22 legal entity born by nature. 22:24 >> Hm. 22:25 >> Meanwhile, the state, 22:29 >> company, foundation, CP, PT are legal 22:32 entities born by law. 22:36 >> H. How could a state, an individual, 22:38 not have an ideology? That's impossible 22:42 . That's a wrong way of thinking. 22:46 Although I was called messed up, then I 22:48 said reflect, structured. Well, that 22:51 proves how problematic legitimacy is 22:53 there. 22:55 >> Yes. Those 22:56 >> ways of thinking are problematic there. 22:59 That's how you see it. H 23:02 >> and people are lulled by problems like 23:04 that with sentences that are just 23:06 packaging like that. 23:08 >> Heeh. Heeh. 23:10 >> I try to straighten it out, of course I 23:12 try to straighten it out, but there's a 23:13 but. 23:15 >> Heeh. Heeh. 23:16 >> There are attempts to straighten it out 23:18 with words. There are attempts to 23:20 straighten it out with just body 23:22 language. 23:23 >> Hm. There's 23:24 >> language with the eyes, right, that 23:26 he's wrong, right? So it is with this 23:29 country. We remind these leaders with 23:32 words, but they call us stupid. We 23:37 remind them by calling them" endasmu. " 23:40 Imagine a situation like that. Like I 23:43 said, the president is involved in a 23:45 civil war. 23:46 >> Hmm. But he's already been manipulated. 23:53 >> This has nothing to do with federalism. 23:55 Eh, we actually want to eliminate 23:57 federalism. Authority still exists. The 24:04 Quran tells the Companions," 24:08 >> Do not speak loudly to the Messenger of 24:10 Allah. "That's a structure of authority 24:13 . It's a structure of maintaining honor 24:17 . There's a protocol, in simple terms. 24:21 So if the Quran says not to speak 24:23 louder than the Messenger of Allah, 24:24 that's the way it is. That's a 24:27 depiction of respect and honor in the 24:29 language of the nest, there's a 24:30 protocol. Now, if protocol is to be 24:34 removed on the grounds of feudalism, 24:36 what's the logic? Let's see. Ah, so 24:44 there are things whose legality we see 24:46 is like this, their legitimacy is 24:48 lacking. 24:50 >> There are stories of high legitimacy, 24:52 but no legality. 24:54 >> Well, in Bahasauddin, both must be 24:56 present. 24:58 >> Hmm. 25:00 >> So in my book, Prahara Bangsa, I 25:02 mentioned that it's impossible to 25:04 abandon legality and only elevate 25:06 legitimacy. It's impossible to elevate 25:10 legitimacy without legality. Well, 25:13 that's the proof that you can't speak 25:15 only of science without faith. It's 25:18 impossible to speak only of faith 25:19 without science. 25:20 >> That's it. 25:22 >> So, Bang Isanudin, you're worried that 25:25 this is a lie, a manipulation. If it's 25:27 legal, just implement it. If it's legal 25:29 , there are rules; if it's legal, 25:31 there's a structure. That's how it will 25:33 be. Worry, 25:35 >> not worry, it's already happened, it's 25:37 >> already happened. Oh, 25:40 >> how could it not be? 25:42 >> How? I've reminded Leha many times that 25:46 this country has a debt of 25:51 >> 10.293 trillion rupiah, paid through 25:53 taxes, not through natural resources. 25:57 >> Hmm. 25:58 >> But paid through taxes. Why? Because 26:02 state revenue depends on piracy, 26:04 amounting to 82 to 84%, which is used 26:07 to pay 26:12 >> the installments, which is used again 26:13 with debt, but with the pressure of 26:15 foreign debt, with the pressure of 26:17 public debt in such a way. Can you see 26:21 that? Prisons are luxurious. 26:24 >> Yes. 26:25 >> Officials are luxurious, 26:27 >> right? Oh, and there's no concern that 26:31 the people at the bottom might have a 26:33 hard life, 26:34 >> even though they're the ones paying the 26:36 bills. Hehe. That's just how 26:40 >> they feel. Oh, they make the rules. 26:43 >> But they can't really accept them. But 26:45 from their inability to speak, from 26:47 their inability to demonstrate a sense 26:49 of legitimacy, those people end up just 26:51 living in their chests and minds. 26:54 >> I live so hard just to put food on the 26:56 table. But you live in luxury cars and 27:00 houses 27:01 >> from your taxes. You see what happens. 27:04 >> Yes, it 27:05 >> can be like that. That's what I've said 27:07 , I've said it many times. Legality 27:13 shouldn't just be based on the words in 27:15 the law, but the morals and ethics 27:16 contained in the law. Well, the phrase" 27:24 government ethics law "appears. It's 27:29 not about government ethics law. The 27:34 old 1945 Constitution stated the 27:36 importance of the spirit of state 27:37 administrators siding with the mission, 27:39 siding with the constitutional mandate. 27:44 >> What was that? 27:46 >> Protecting all the nation's blood, 27:50 >> educating, improving welfare, building 27:52 a sense of justice. That's how it 27:55 should be. 27:56 >> Yes, yes. So, the spirit of the 28:01 organizers isn't just based on the 28:03 written words of the Constitution, the 28:06 >> written words of the laws. That's not 28:09 it. 28:11 >> But on the morals and ethics as the 28:12 spirit of state administrators, one of 28:14 which I've criticized since I was in 28:16 the House of Representatives until 28:17 today is debt, which I call a debt trap 28:19 . 28:22 >> And meanwhile, officials who don't feel 28:23 it's a debt trap. Can you imagine the 28:27 situation where we've entered a 28:28 department and don't feel it's a debt 28:30 trap? No, that's 28:33 >> not it, that creates a legitimacy 28:35 crisis. A 28:37 >> legitimacy crisis, that's the 28:40 >> most obvious one. We've 28:43 >> been trapped by debt, but state 28:44 administrators don't feel it's a debt 28:46 trap. So, what can we do? 28:50 >> That sentence is very simple. You've 28:52 been trapped by debt. 28:57 >> But almost all of the people—I'd say, 28:59 from the highest to the lowest—state 29:01 officials don't feel that trap. So they 29:07 live in luxury cars. 29:09 >> Look at the luxury cars used by civil 29:11 servants, 29:14 >> used by those officials. 29:16 >> Meanwhile, the people struggle 29:18 incredibly hard to even eat. H 29:22 >> from a legitimacy crisis to a moral 29:24 crisis and a role model crisis. 29:27 >> Didn't we also discuss that in the 29:29 results? 29:30 >> Yes. It was mentioned again that 29:32 knowledge without faith, office without 29:34 faith, right? 29:35 >> Legality without faith. Legality 29:37 without faith, so a state without faith 29:39 is dangerous, Bangudin. Well, that's it 29:42 . 29:45 >> So when the source of origin is usury, 29:47 that's how 29:50 >> we live, we're always in chaos. 29:53 >> In the formulation of Albaqarah, chaos 29:55 is said to stand upright but stagger. 29:57 Well, that's chaos. 30:00 >> Life without discipline is chaos. 30:02 >> H. He. 30:03 >> Well, that's the picture of the 30:05 painting Albaqar 275 279, that's the 30:08 picture. You're like having adultery 30:10 with your mother seven times 30:12 >> and you're being fought by the Prophet 30:13 and Allah. Well, extraordinary. 30:16 >> Extraordinary. Well, that's the 30:18 department, 30:20 >> department. Well, the big question is 30:23 to what extent they are aware of it; 30:25 just look at the APBN, are they aware 30:27 of it or not. Just look at the 30:30 resources being used like that, how can 30:31 you be aware of it? It can be seen from 30:34 there, likewise with America, whose 30:36 debt is already 40 trillion, 30:38 >> but they face a problem called 30:42 >> homelessness, they have a problem 30:43 called income, they have a problem 30:45 called racial inequality, they have a 30:47 problem called disasters that don't 30:48 keep coming back. 30:50 >> Heeh, that's 30:51 >> how it is when I read the media there, 30:54 right? Heeh. 30:55 >> Heeh. Well, like it or not, agree or 30:58 disagree, whether you want to or not, 31:01 consciously or unconsciously, right? 31:07 >> You are invited to reflect, invited to 31:09 contemplate, what is wrong with this. I 31:14 always say that the younger siblings 31:16 who spoke in Jogja with Misery 31:18 Indonesia are 31:21 >> only talking about behavior, Mr. They 31:23 don't see the problem in the system. 31:28 They only say that democracy is 31:29 declining. 31:31 >> He. 31:32 >> They don't know that democracy is a 31:34 misleading word. 31:36 >> He he. 31:39 >> Words that actually only indicate the 31:41 right to speak. H 31:43 >> like that. The right to show rights and 31:49 it is based on individualism. 31:51 >> He. 31:52 >> Even though there are people who are 31:53 shouting about socialism. I don't know 31:56 what kind of socialism it is. 31:57 >> I don't know what kind of socialism. 32:00 Well, Bro. 32:01 >> Yes. Yes, so we don't just want to 32:07 fight, but we also want to treat the 32:10 deficit of trust, morality, legitimacy, 32:12 and other deficits that plague this 32:14 republic. So, how does Bang Sin build a 32:22 government that has lost credibility, 32:24 how do we treat it? Okay. I want to 32:31 respond to Iksandin Nursi's language, 32:38 which has been going on for more than 32:41 28 years, in Ihsanuddin Nursi's way of 32:43 thinking. Sorry, I forgot to mention my 32:49 name because I'm doing this in Nursi's 32:51 way of thinking. I'm not just 32:55 deconstructing, which in Angga's 32:57 language is fighting. 32:59 >> Heeh. Heeh. 33:01 >> I'm not just deconstructing. So, I 33:04 deconstruct a construction. It's 33:07 painful. Repeat. Just like a sick 33:11 person being given medicine is painful. 33:14 >> Yes. It 33:15 >> hurts 33:16 >> because they are looking for a new 33:17 balance. 33:18 >> Yes. Bitter. There is a new balance 33:20 that must be achieved. That new balance 33:22 is what reconstruction is called. So is 33:26 the old balance different from the new 33:27 balance? There must be similarities, 33:30 there must be differences. That's his 33:32 way of thinking. 33:33 >> Heeh. 33:36 >> So, once again, I'm hearing about 33:38 reconstruction and reconstruction. 33:42 Reconstruction is a new balance. The 33:46 big question is, are the old balance 33:48 and the new balance different? There 33:50 are similarities, there are differences 33:52 . The foundations must not be different 34:21 . Because the foundation is the grace 34:29 of Almighty God and driven by the deep 34:30 desire for a free nation and state, 34:31 protecting all the nation's blood, 34:32 educating, prospering, and building a 34:33 sense of justice based on the One 34:34 Almighty God. That, that... 35:10 >> In this way, the continuity of those 35:12 values continues. That's what is called 35:15 upholding the values of a nation, 35:17 measured by three things. First, 35:22 society feels that its life is indeed 35:24 stitched together by those moral and 35:26 ethical values. Now, let's see if 35:29 society feels stitched together by 35:31 those moral and ethical values. There 35:33 aren't any. That 35:34 >> one value is gone. Second, the next 35:37 measure: Society feels proud of those 35:39 values. There are products produced by 35:41 them. Are there products? No. There 35:44 aren't any. There aren't any. 35:49 >> Third, there are now leaders who 35:51 symbolize the upholding of those values 35:53 . 35:55 >> Are there any? 35:56 >> No. There aren't 35:58 >> any. 35:59 >> All three are missing. So, once again, 36:01 I'll repeat the three indicators. 36:04 >> They are perceived by society as 36:06 binding ethical and moral values. 36:10 Second, there is pride emerging in 36:12 society for those values. There are 36:15 products to be proud of. There are no 36:18 leaders who exemplify those values. We 36:22 don't have all three. Isn't that 36:24 ultimately describing a value crisis? 36:27 And that value crisis is what Angga 36:29 simplified earlier in sociological 36:31 terms, and 36:32 >> in political terms, a legitimacy crisis 36:34 . And it's not just happening on the 36:38 national stage, it's happening on the 36:40 global stage, you see. The stage. 36:43 >> Well, if we see it that way, what we 36:45 need to fix isn't just the perpetrators 36:47 , 36:48 >> namely the crisis of exemplary 36:49 leadership. 36:51 >> As Sudin stated on November 15, 2024, 36:53 we are experiencing a crisis of 36:55 exemplary leadership. Because a mentor 37:00 declared his country open to foreign 37:02 investment in the education and health 37:04 sectors. How about that? 37:07 >> How about that? 37:09 >> Uh, it's just, I was the only one who 37:11 spoke like that first. Just like in the 37:13 Joko Widodo era, I was the only one who 37:15 said the same thing to you, Joko Widodo 37:17 . 37:18 >> Just to you. 37:19 >> November 2014. 10 years later, I 37:21 declared we were experiencing a crisis 37:23 of exemplary leadership. 37:25 >> Hmm. The main issue isn't about our 37:30 consistency in opposing the government, 37:32 not that. 37:33 >> It's not that we consistently oppose 37:35 the government, not that. Because I 37:37 have construction, I have 37:39 deconstruction. I have reconstruction, 37:42 >> H, 37:44 >> meaning there's thought, then there's 37:46 action, I suppose. 37:47 >> Yes. There's 37:49 >> thought, there's action. Just like the 37:53 Prophet Muhammad, he had teachings, 37:55 namely," hudil muttaqin "(the righteous 37:57 and the last generation). Then he 38:02 embodied them in his actions as his 38:03 sunnahs. 38:05 >> Likewise, we cannot simply adhere to 38:07 teachings until we embody them in 38:09 action. If we make mistakes, should we 38:13 correct them? So, in order for us to 38:20 reach the point of reconstruction, our 38:22 reconstruction is not aimed at our own 38:24 group. 38:25 >> Hm. 38:27 >> We do not aim the reconstruction for 38:29 our own group, but for all the 38:30 blessings of the universe, for the 38:32 entire Indonesian nation. Therefore, 38:38 improving this forced constitution that 38:40 has resulted in a crisis of intimacy is 38:42 actually carried out in the context of 38:44 restoring national life and statehood 38:46 in accordance with the spirit of the 38:47 founders of the republic. 38:52 >> Hm. 38:55 >> So that we do not become further lost, 38:57 do not become more entangled, do not 38:59 deepen the crisis of legitimacy. 39:03 legitimacy crisis 28 years ago I said 39:05 it was caused by social distraal 39:10 >> social disorder 39:12 >> social disobedient that is the 39:16 >> monetary crisis shifted into a 39:18 multidimensional crisis 28 years ago 39:20 >> he 39:24 >> I said social discord was born society 39:26 does not trust each other born social 39:27 disorder attacks everywhere there is a 39:29 crisis to the story of the 39:31 demonstration in front of the 39:32 university ee in ee in Semanggi there 39:34 were 39:37 >> people died like that, there were 39:39 students died 39:40 >> and then also social disobedience 39:42 occurred. 39:45 >> If we replace these social words, it 39:47 describes economic, political, distrust 39:49 , economic, 39:53 >> political, disorder, economic political 39:55 disorder, disobedient. Well, that goes. 39:59 Well, that means when the price of 40:06 money that shows the dignity of the 40:08 nation that shows the quality of the 40:09 country is successfully hit by one 40:11 country, by manipulators, by 40:13 speculators like that, what is actually 40:15 being hit is our self-esteem, the 40:16 self-esteem of the nation. And the blow 40:23 to the self-esteem of the nation 40:24 continues to this day. Until 40:26 >> today. That's 40:28 >> why I said the exchange rate fell 40:32 >> in the long term continuously. Repeat. 40:34 The exchange rate fell 40:37 >> in the long term continuously. That 40:39 means a legitimacy crisis for the 40:41 rupiah. That means a sovereignty crisis 40:44 . That means a crisis of 40:48 >> self-respect. PO isn't understood, is 40:50 it? Yes, 40:52 >> in A, the rupiah has fallen regularly. 40:56 Ah, well, we're used to being oppressed 40:58 like that. 41:01 >> How about that? You've already accepted 41:05 , in simple terms, your position as 41:07 constantly in the emergency room. 41:10 >> H emergency, 41:11 >> out in a moment, back again. Out in a 41:13 moment, back again. 41:14 >> Okay, Mr. Isanudin, our time is up, 41:17 this is short. 41:18 >> Closing sentence. What's the closing 41:20 sentence? The legitimacy crisis of this 41:23 legal government. Now, if we realize 41:31 that a legitimacy crisis is a crisis of 41:33 trust, and a crisis of trust is an 41:35 indicator of social distrust, social 41:38 disorder, and social disobedience, then 41:45 we must prevent it from becoming a form 41:47 of disintegration. Hmm. 41:52 >> We must stop it from progressing 41:54 further into disintegration. Now, if 42:00 the Constitutional Court was once a 42:02 source of legitimacy. If the People's 42:06 Consultative Assembly (MPR) on August 42:08 10, 2002, became the source of the 42:10 legitimacy crisis, then that's where we 42:12 need to repair that source. 42:14 >> The MPR must return to its role to 42:16 restore all of this. That's it. All the 42:22 children of the nation who feel like 42:23 they are the best thinkers, give your 42:25 best contribution so that this nation 42:27 regains its self-respect, so that this 42:29 nation regains its sovereignty, so that 42:31 this nation has the ability to overcome 42:33 the legitimacy crisis 42:37 >> so that life is based on faith and 42:38 knowledge. Life is not based on throne 42:41 and wealth. So that you feel honored 42:44 with that throne and wealth. No. 42:49 >> You will never be honored with the 42:50 throne and f you will actually become a 42:52 burden and it will become a burden and 42:54 then just erased when you enter the 42:55 grave. 42:58 >> H 43:01 >> subhanakallahumma wabi asadu antaagfir 43:03 peace be upon you warahmatullah 43:05 wabarakatuh. 43:08 >> Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi 43:10 wabarakatuh. 
