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0:13 TV. 0:19 To our radio listeners everywhere, it 0:22 seems Dr. Toni Rosid is already on the 0:25 line. We will be speaking with him. We 0:30 will discuss various other stories with 0:33 Dr. Toni Rosid. Coming up next. Bang 0:36 Fahri is already connected on the line. 0:39 Thumbs up, a sign that we are connected 0:43 with Mas Toni Rosid. Peace be upon you, 0:46 and Allah's mercy and blessings. How 0:49 are you, Mas Toni Rasyid? Peace be upon 0:53 you, and Allah's mercy and blessings, 0:54 Mr. Ihsan, and everything is well. 0:57 Praise be to God. 0:57 Praise be to God. This is our radio. 1:00 We are the ones not doing well because 1:02 Mas 1:04 The father is angry because the father 1:05 might be wrong about the father-son 1:07 issue, it still persists. The child of 1:09 Krakatau, too, right. This is, this 1:12 nepotism is indeed dangerous, it turns 1:14 out. It even reaches the mountains, 1:15 right. There is also a mother mountain 1:17 there in Eastern Indonesia. Where is 1:18 that? Eastern Indonesia, right. Mothers 1:21 and fathers, sir, the listeners want to 1:24 hear this story from the various tales 1:26 between the stories. Oh, right, today 1:30 is the 17th anniversary of Radio 1:32 Silaturahim, Mas Toni's milestone. 1:34 Hopefully, always steadfast, right. May 1:37 Allah grant congratulations to Radio 1:39 Rasil for its 17th anniversary. Amen. 1:43 Hopefully, it will contribute even more 1:45 to the people and this nation. 1:49 May Rasil continue to advance, be more 1:52 accepted, and have its benefits spread 1:56 for the people and the nation. Keep 2:00 maintaining the spirit, the spirit of 2:02 unity and the spirit of progress 2:05 for a unified Islam. Awesome. Thank you 2:08 , Mas Toni. Mas Toni, there is a new 2:11 book. Have you read it yet, Mas Toni? 2:13 What is this, this "Islam à la Prabo" 2:16 book. People are getting upset, 2:19 including zakat organizations. People 2:21 say, "Oh, what if this is from zakat 2:22 funds?""In the end, it's getting harder 2:24 to collect zakat." Some say, "According 2:27 to Yusuf Begur, this should have been ' 2:29 Prabo as if he were Islamic.'" There 2:31 are many stories behind these stories 2:33 that have become a major spotlight. Wow 2:36 , this is a story, right. But the MBG 2:40 story that never ends, to the point 2:42 where there's a question: how many 2:44 victims must be publicized before 2:47 wanting to pull the handbrake? For this 2:51 one, it remains an unfinished story of 2:54 nutrition, where it seems this nation's 2:57 hope is malnourished that is, online 3:04 loans (pinjol) reaching 105 trillion, 3:07 right. While the money from the richest 3:10 person in Indonesia, 17.6 trillion, has 3:12 already been sent abroad. But the poor 3:16 Indonesian people who pay piles of 3:18 taxes are sucking up 105 trillion in 3:21 online loans. We belong to Allah. Yes, 3:25 that's how it is. Is it true when 3:27 poverty becomes political capital? 3:30 Because poverty, with a Gini ratio 3:33 already near 4%, seems to be a 3:36 spotlight. But what does Mas Toni see 3:40 from the state of affairs occurring 3:42 concurrently with this nation's 3:44 condition, not to mention the various 3:46 disasters that keep rolling in this 3:48 morning. The news just never ends. 3:52 Please, Mas Toni Rosit. Oh right, 3:55 there's a code from AHY that leadership 3:59 is not forever. Wow, this has also 4:02 become another story that is in the 4:04 spotlight of politicians ahead of 2024. 4:09 Please, Mas Toni Rosid, give your 4:12 response or notes on this. Go ahead, 4:15 Mas Toni. 4:16 Alright, thank you, Pak Ihsan and all 4:18 the listeners. Let's start with the 4:20 book, shall we? 4:22 Well, this book is interesting, right? 4:24 But Rasel didn't get the project, did 4:26 he? This will later be, well, books are 4:31 things that 4:32 there is also the matter of Umar bin 4:34 Abdul Aziz. Previously it was Umar bin 4:36 Khattab, now it is Umar bin Abdul Aziz. 4:38 Yes. 4:40 So, this way, this needs to be 4:42 straightened out from the beginning. 4:46 Every religious community has its own 4:48 way of expressing their religion, 4:49 expressing their faith, whoever it is. 4:52 Right? Including Muslims, the 4:56 individuals have their own ways of 4:58 expressing it. 5:01 Some practice Islam through prayer or 5:04 rituals, others through not praying; it 5:08 varies. Islam through fasting, Islam 5:12 through giving a lot of charity, Islam 5:14 through fighting to build an 5:16 Islamic-based NGO, or joining an 5:18 organization. The matter of whether 5:22 they contribute to that organization or 5:24 are just looking for a living there is 5:26 just a matter of different ways between 5:28 one and another. And in my opinion, 5:32 Prabowo is a Muslim who has a way of 5:34 being Islamic, expressing his faith in 5:36 his own way, and that is Prabowo's 5:38 right. Ah, as for it being written in a 5:43 book, or later written in an article 5:45 linked to Prabowo's Islam, that is 5:47 perfectly fine. But one thing that must 5:52 be a principle is that it must be 5:53 objective, it must be honest. Yes. So, 5:57 Islam according to Pak Ihsan and Pak 5:59 Andi is different from Islam according 6:01 to, what's his name? The mayor of New 6:05 York, they definitely express it 6:07 differently, right? Hm. 6:11 Yes. Islam according to Pak Prabowo and 6:12 Islam according to Habib Rizieq are 6:14 certainly different. What is wrong is 6:16 if it is written not in accordance with 6:19 what actually exists. H. 6:22 If it is in accordance with what exists 6:24 , and if that error is due to an 6:26 unintentional perception, in my opinion 6:28 , it can be excused and understood. But 6:32 if it then distorts perception 6:34 intentionally, that is what cannot be 6:36 understood. Perhaps because an 6:41 assessment, one thing may not be 6:45 detailed, perhaps less comprehensive or 6:50 not as it is, so it gets a very wide 6:54 response. The second thing is, well, " 6:59 Islam ala Prabowo" was written by 7:01 someone who lost in the congress. 7:04 Finally, others follow, right? I'm not 7:07 participating. Not participating. 7:08 Imagine if the person who wrote it won 7:10 the congress, for example, everyone 7:11 would be fighting over it. Oh yes, 7:13 that's an interview with me. This 7:15 already has political meaning. So it is 7:18 not on the substance of the book's 7:20 content, but already on a, what do you 7:22 call it? There is a political element 7:26 because there are impacts from that 7:29 writing and so on, which then makes it 7:31 a big deal. Then, because this is viral 7:35 , it's typical for Indonesians, 7:36 especially with the current high 7:38 unemployment, right. It caused a stir, 7:41 then it got into Baznas, and others, as 7:44 usual, Mr. Ihsan. When someone loses, 7:47 people tend to run away. For example, a 7:49 governor; when they become governor, 7:51 people get close, but once they're no 7:52 longer governor, people distance 7:54 themselves. We see the same thing with 7:56 Mr. Jokowi becoming president. Oh, the 7:58 circle around him was so massive. When 8:01 he is no longer president, many people 8:03 will likely say, "I repent," even if 8:05 it's too late. Well, I think this is 8:07 the character, many Indonesians share 8:10 this kind of character. 8:13 But aside from that, this should be a 8:14 lesson, right. Be careful if you are 8:18 going to involve certain figures. Yes. 8:22 Figures might win, but figures might 8:24 also lose. Currently, the figure is 8:27 winning, which is Mr. Prabowo. But 8:29 unfortunately, the one who wrote lost, 8:31 and the problem is others are causing 8:33 trouble. 8:33 So, it's heading more in that direction 8:36 . The discussions that have been 8:39 happening are more focused on process 8:41 issues, not substantive ones. Matters 8:44 of mechanism, not matters of substance. 8:48 This must be a lesson, as it 8:50 consistently indicates that our brains 8:53 are indeed mechanical, not substantive 8:56 brains. That is one thing. 9:00 Then, the second point is about the 9:02 food poisoning issue. Our society is an 9:06 axiological society; they just want to 9:08 know what it results in. Paradise, you 9:11 see. 9:12 But what is the epistemology behind the 9:15 effort to build that paradise? That is 9:17 never discussed. Now, moving to the 9:19 Free Nutritious Meal (MBG) program. 9:21 People often think at the upstream 9:24 level about this poisoning, but what 9:26 causes the poisoning is never revealed. 9:29 Hm. That. 9:31 It should have been revealed; there's 9:33 poisoning today, more tomorrow, and 9:35 even more the next day. 9:37 What is wrong here? 9:39 Something is wrong. 9:40 Yes, what is wrong here, but our 9:42 discussion and the uproar are just 9:44 about the poisoning and the number of 9:46 cases. 9:47 Thousands, heh. 9:49 But we are not discussing the factors 9:52 causing this poisoning. 9:54 Hm. 9:55 That shows our brains are indeed " 9:57 instant" brains; the minds of 9:58 Indonesian society in general are 10:00 instant. Noisy in the commotion at the 10:04 downstream end, but not at the upstream 10:07 . We don't trace it back to the source 10:11 —what the cause is or what factors it 10:12 results from—that is never something 10:14 we think about or make into a public 10:16 discussion. 10:19 Public discussion should ideally be 10:21 about things that aren't just at the 10:23 downstream level but also the upstream; 10:25 that is what differentiates intelligent 10:27 people from those who aren't. 10:30 Yes. Why aren't we intelligent? Well, 10:32 how could we be intelligent? Education 10:34 funds are taken away. 10:36 If the education budget is taken, how 10:39 can we be intelligent? We have few 10:43 college graduates; how can our human 10:45 resources be intelligent? Our Human 10:49 Development Index (HDI), Mr. Ihsan, is 10:52 only 72, while Thailand is 79, Malaysia 10:55 is 81, let alone Singapore—we are far 10:58 behind. 11:00 Yes, this is an upstream issue, you see 11:02 . 11:03 There is an upstream issue that we have 11:06 never seriously addressed. 11:10 So, if the water tank is dirty, sir, or 11:12 if the faucet is running dirty water, 11:14 don't talk about the type of faucet. 11:17 Hmm. 11:18 Don't talk about its size, but rather 11:20 think about where this water comes from 11:23 , what its source is, and why it's 11:25 becoming dirty. Hmm. 11:27 Yes. If our officials, if our leaders 11:30 still think downstream, the public will 11:33 eventually think downstream too. The 11:36 noise never solves the problem. It just 11:39 keeps waiting for this incident to 11:41 repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and 11:44 repeat. In the end, our country is 11:46 stuck and never moves forward. 11:48 Ah, let us change our mindset, change 11:51 how we think. If this doesn't change, 11:54 then these events will repeat and 11:56 remain unresolved. So it's not just 11:59 about "stop this first," including the 12:00 House of Representatives. Stop it first 12:03 , find out what the problem is, then 12:06 make a decision. Decisions should be 12:08 based on research results. Those 12:11 research results become the 12:12 recommendations for deciding whether 12:14 this should be stopped. Yes, if it's 12:16 stopped, should it be all of it or half 12:18 of it, and for how long? We need to 12:20 know the problem first. Hmm. 12:23 The problem is that many of our friends 12:25 in the House of Representatives only 12:27 hold a high school equivalency diploma. 12:31 Well, not everyone, they are all 12:32 generally good, but some of those with 12:34 that diploma sometimes say things like 12:35 that, right? There are. 12:37 Sometimes common sense comes too late, 12:39 right? Yes, many decisions are made 12:40 only when common sense finally kicks in 12:42 . I just got back from Jogja yesterday 12:44 and saw some things—what were those 12:46 rice warehouse buildings, and then 12:47 above that, a red and white cooperative 12:49 . Oh, really? Such strange places. It 12:54 seems like a village head's protest 12:56 against the government regarding this. 12:59 There are a lot of strange things like 13:00 that, man. Hmm. 13:01 Yes. Like this, sir. Regarding the KMP, 13:03 Mr. Isan, let's not talk about the 13:05 process first, okay? The KMP takes 13:08 those funds—the state budget—then 13:10 borrows from the bank, and later it's 13:12 paid in installments. 600 million in 13:16 village funds are used for 6 years. 13:19 We've only just started talking about 13:20 that. 13:21 How can the region build, how can the 13:23 region circulate its funds? Let's just 13:27 use layperson's terms; if we use 13:28 macroeconomic analysis, it just doesn't 13:30 add up. 13:33 Right? It doesn't add up. 13:36 It's natural that it's not just the 13:37 village head, but the community as well 13:39 . The community understands that 13:42 village development has stopped, the 13:44 money circulating in the village has 13:46 greatly decreased, which then, as a 13:48 national consequence, means economic 13:50 growth automatically decreases too. 13:54 And we have had deflation for years, 13:57 sir; people's purchasing power is low, 13:59 and if that persists for years, it will 14:02 automatically force corporate 14:04 efficiency. The shortest route for 14:08 corporate efficiency is layoffs. If 14:13 there are layoffs, then unemployment 14:15 and poverty emerge, purchasing power 14:17 drops further, and this will become an 14:20 accumulation. This KMP is just waiting 14:23 to explode, perhaps next year. 14:25 Seeing how the process is going. Ma'am. 14:28 Yes, indeed. It's clearer like the 14:31 governor of Central Sulawesi, Anwar 14:33 Hafid, who made all education free. But 14:36 it's rare for a governor to take action 14:38 like this, even up to a PhD level for 14:40 their citizens. Amazing, isn't it. 14:43 I haven't checked, sir. I haven't 14:45 checked. What's certain is that East 14:47 Kalimantan has provided free tuition 14:48 for bachelor's to doctoral degrees 14:50 since last year. 14:51 Well, that 14:52 but what got exposed was the 8 billion 14:55 car. But these kinds of ideas are 14:59 unique, I don't know, I haven't checked 15:01 if it's true about Akbar Hafiz 15:04 that he provides it for free. 15:06 As for East Kalimantan, I have checked, 15:08 I know for sure that bachelor's to 15:10 doctoral programs have been free for 2 15:12 years now. 15:13 Yes. If Jakarta, it's reasonable for 15:16 Jakarta, but actually 15:18 Jakarta hasn't yet. That high school 15:21 thing, it's just a pilot project for 15:23 private high schools. 15:25 Hmm. Free high school, SU high school. 15:28 If East Kalimantan, 15:29 Yeah. 15:30 High school isn't just free, they get 15:32 bags, they get clothes, they get shoes. 15:35 Now, that should be heard by the 15:37 regional heads. This is a radio 15:40 broadcast from Aceh to Banyuwangi, Mas 15:42 Toni. Extraordinary. 15:43 Even to New York, yes. 15:44 To New York, 40 countries today. But 15:47 those with more than 10 listeners are 15:49 about 20 countries. The others have two 15:52 or three listeners, yes. Including 15:53 Israel, two listeners, like that, yes. 15:55 Who is listening in Israel, I wonder, 15:57 there's someone? 15:59 There are those who listen, two now, 16:00 one asks me, I don't know who is 16:02 listening. If they listen, we know, but 16:07 it's extraordinary that in the midst of 16:10 all this, these online loans reach 105 16:12 trillion, what is this? This is usury. 16:16 This is definitely usury, right, these 16:19 online loans. Even reaching tens of 16:21 percent in a month. This has become an 16:24 extraordinary phenomenon. It's 16:27 embarrassing sometimes if it's already 16:29 in default, but how come the default 16:30 rate is 4.32%. It makes us scratch our 16:33 heads too. How do you see this 16:35 phenomenon, Mas Toni? Sir. 16:37 These online loans are a result, sir, 16:39 not a cause. It's like 16:41 if someone is struggling 16:43 h 16:43 pressed for cash, where can they borrow 16:45 from? 16:46 True. 16:47 Yeah. 16:47 Just MSMEs, sir. This is normal. Just 16:51 MSMEs. Want to borrow from a bank 16:54 micro-enterprises, yes. Small 16:56 businesses, MSMEs. Want to borrow from 17:00 a bank, but can't. 17:03 Especially that, the rice fields, what 17:05 was it? Green zones, want to use them 17:09 as collateral, can't either because 17:10 it's agricultural land, no one wants to 17:12 buy, they say. 17:14 Yes. 17:15 Yes. My point is, I wouldn't be 17:17 surprised if it's 105 trillion, 17:19 tomorrow maybe 200 trillion, I wouldn't 17:21 be surprised, sir. Because the problem 17:25 isn't how many trillions, the problem 17:27 is our society is poor, and online loan 17:30 regulations aren't strict. 17:33 It's that our society is poor and 17:35 looking for instant funds. 17:39 If loan apps are used by those with 17:41 jobs who can pay them back, that's fine 17:44 , but the problem is when people with 17:46 no jobs and urgent needs have no choice 17:48 but to use them; those apps often lend 17:51 without strict screening. 17:54 Yes, in the end, they get instant funds 17:57 , right? Once they get those instant 18:01 funds and the immediate problem is 18:03 temporarily solved, many Indonesians in 18:05 the current climate face so many issues 18:08 that when they hit a dead end, they 18:10 turn to loan apps, and praying alone 18:12 doesn't bring money. 18:15 Is this what you mean by the Gini 18:16 coefficient, Mas? 18:17 Uh-huh. The widening Gini coefficient. 18:21 In the end, they turn to loan apps. If 18:24 our society were prosperous, loan apps 18:27 would naturally die out. 18:30 Hmm. 18:30 Loan apps would naturally shrink and 18:32 then disappear. But if our society has 18:35 acute economic problems, right? While 18:39 there are people looking for 18:41 opportunities to solve issues instantly 18:45 or urgently, and loan apps provide that 18:48 space, supply meets demand; that is 18:51 just a social law. If you want to 18:56 reduce loan apps, the way to do it is 18:59 to make society prosperous, create jobs 19:02 , and push for people to earn decent 19:04 incomes. Automatically, those loan apps 19:08 will die. In these conditions, yes, 19:11 because there are more applicants than 19:13 loan apps, if you pressure them, what 19:15 happens? The law must be enforced. They 19:19 should only provide loans with stricter 19:22 requirements, so that people who likely 19:24 cannot repay them are not granted loans 19:26 . If these loan apps end up violating 19:32 government regulations, then what 19:36 should be done is to protect those who 19:40 become victims. Is our society or 19:45 poverty being maintained because it 19:47 serves as political capital? How do you 19:50 see that, Mas Toni, some people have 19:51 that opinion? 19:52 It's not that poverty is maintained, 19:54 but it's driven to increase. 19:57 Isn't that right? If we make policies 20:01 that don't just maintain poverty but 20:03 actually drive the growth of poverty. 20:07 This is a matter that needs to be 20:09 evaluated—those policies. So, Pak 20:13 Ihsan and all Rasil listeners, right? 20:16 Everything has a theory. 20:18 Everything has a theory. So, if current 20:22 economic policies are like this, what 20:24 will the consequences be? What kind of 20:27 impact will emerge? What will the 20:29 economic growth look like? Then what 20:31 will be the fate of corporations? Then, 20:33 what do you call it? What will the per 20:36 capita income look like? Everything for 20:39 next year can be predicted today from 20:41 the budget. 20:42 Yes, from the regional budget. Take, 20:46 for example, if tomorrow, for the 20:49 regional transfer funds... 20:54 The plan was to cut it by 4 trillion; 20:56 it's 187 trillion now, is it being cut? 21:00 It's not being cut; it's being 21:02 increased so the economy grows. 21:05 So, the mindset shouldn't be shifting 21:08 funds, but creating new programs with 21:10 new funds, not existing ones. 21:14 So, this is like managing a household 21:16 budget. 21:17 In a household budget, there are 21:20 routine expenses. 21:22 Well, for the clear routine 21:24 expenditures, both consumptive and 21:26 productive, they are already in place. 21:30 Then, if we create a new program, 21:32 whether it's consumptive or productive, 21:34 don't use the existing budget that is 21:37 already standard. 21:40 Find another budget to then be managed 21:43 for the new program. 21:46 H 21:46 yes. Unless, the old one really cannot 21:50 be maintained and it is wasteful. Then 21:54 it should be reduced. But the reduction 21:56 must not be drastic either. There must 21:58 be a process so there is stability. 22:02 Hm. Yes, it is truly extraordinary. Uh, 22:04 what 22:06 is the chess move, Mas Toni? There’s 22:10 a quote about power having an end, and 22:13 it wasn't said by Mas Toni or the Ustaz 22:16 , but by AHY. This has become quite a 22:19 buzz. What do you see, Mas Toni, with 22:22 everyone busy and 2024 stories 22:25 continuing to roll out? How do you see 22:28 this, Mas Toni? Well 22:30 it's like this, Pak Ihsan. We have 22:32 often heard the whispers of these 22:35 ministers. 22:36 Yes. 22:37 Yes. If we read the media, we're 22:39 shocked. 22:40 H. 22:41 But if we read, uh, what do you call it 22:44 ? Meet with them, we aren't shocked. 22:46 Hm. 22:47 They are, after all, on the outside. 22:49 AHY tells us there are two factors. The 22:53 first is that this power, although it 22:57 accommodates various parties, groups, 23:00 and various 23:02 uh, parties, it isn't united. 23:05 Hm. Ah, that is where they feel there 23:09 is a distribution of power that feels 23:12 unequal 23:15 including towards other parties that 23:17 are inside, and you can trace whose it 23:20 belongs to. This can be traced, whose 23:24 project this is, whose project that is. 23:27 There is inequality in the division of 23:29 power, which causes these whispers. Ah, 23:32 they then start—the second factor— 23:34 to gain momentum, to gain space. What 23:37 is that space? Uh, Pak Prabowo's 23:40 electability is low. 23:42 Hm. H 23:44 right? Even though the latest media 23:50 says 32%, Tempo says 14-15%, and 14% 23:56 semi-open, 15%closed. 24:01 Uh. right? Meanwhile, there is a figure 24:04 who soared to 42%, KDM. 24:07 right? Now, in this context, there is a 24:11 growing boldness, especially in 24:14 2027-2028, when satisfaction levels 24:16 with Pak Prabowo are low, then the... 24:19 what's it called? Low electability 24:22 level where? 24:24 Hm. Yes. 24:26 Uh, what do you call it? 24:28 Uh, low electability. Hello. 24:30 Low electability. Yeah. 24:33 Yes, low electability, right? If it is 24:36 then, what do you call it? Uh, low, 24:40 then the grievances and disappointments 24:43 of the people inside begin to emerge 24:48 and get the space to do so. So, there 24:50 are two things. The first is 24:52 dissatisfaction. Then the second is 24:56 that this dissatisfaction finds space, 24:58 and someone like AHY emerges. 25:02 So I think AY actually represents many 25:05 parties, many parties indeed. Don't 25:08 just look at it as AHY, you know. 25:10 Yes. So if we then try to whisper about 25:13 the stories in the next room, sir, 25:15 right? There are many people like AHY, 25:18 it's just that they haven't found the 25:20 space yet. AY now just seems, well, 25:24 because he is SBY's son, so there is 25:26 power. 25:29 Not a son of Krakatau, but he speaks 25:30 out, right? So there are two factors. 25:34 The factor where the distribution of 25:36 power is considered skewed by those on 25:38 the inside, right? Second, finding the 25:42 space, the space to speak when their 25:45 fear has started to fade. Except if Mr. 25:49 Prabowo indeed has high electability. 25:52 Then, uh if the electability is high, 25:57 if it's high, it means two terms. If 25:59 there is certainty of two terms, no one 26:01 dares to speak, and other AHYs won't 26:04 emerge. 26:05 The final segment, Mas Toni, 30 minutes 26:08 as a closing. What would Mas Toni like 26:11 to write or remind all the listeners 26:13 and observers of the nation regarding 26:16 what you see of our nation's state? 26:19 Please, Mas Toni Rasyid. 26:21 Yes. This nation, the future of this 26:24 nation, holding this country is not 26:26 owned by the rulers but belongs to 26:28 everyone. Therefore, we all have the 26:32 same responsibility, the same 26:33 obligation with different proportions 26:36 between the rulers and the people. 26:38 Because of that, whatever happens in 26:41 this country, let us contribute. Don't 26:44 add to the burden, don't add to the 26:46 problems, right? There are already too 26:48 many problems in this country. Let us 26:51 contribute by giving something 26:54 according to what we are capable of, 26:57 including like me, if we support a good 27:00 government, we support it, we 27:04 we, what is it called? We encourage it. 27:07 But if we need to provide input, we 27:09 give input, we provide input. Input, we 27:12 should all provide input so that if 27:14 there are mistakes, they don't keep 27:16 becoming problems. If there is 27:18 something right, we push the government 27:20 to be even stronger in doing right. 27:22 This is all for the people, for the 27:23 state, and for the future of our nation 27:25 . 27:25 God willing. God willing. Thank you, 27:27 Mas Toni Rasyid. Hopefully, Allah gives 27:30 blessings and always accompanies this 27:32 radio with full sincerity. Peace be 27:34 upon you, Ustani. And peace be upon you 27:38 too. 
