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0:13 In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious 0:14 , the Most Merciful. Peace be upon you, 0:15 and Allah's mercy and blessings. 0:16 And peace be upon you too. 0:17 O Allah, send blessings upon our 0:19 Prophet Muhammad and his family. Praise 0:22 be to Allah, we meet again today, 0:24 Thursday, November 23, 2025, or the 1st 0:27 of Jumada al-Awwal. 1447 Hijri. We meet 0:32 again on the Muslim Entrepreneur 0:34 program. This program provides a space 0:39 for you, Muslim entrepreneurs, to 0:41 present your products. Please, if you 0:44 want to send greetings or share stories 0:46 about your products, you are welcome to 0:47 . We are opening the opportunity for 0:50 you, Muslim entrepreneurs, to present 0:52 your products. We have guests here 0:55 today: David and Maxi. One of them is 1:00 in the business of what is it? 1:02 Room freshener, air freshener, right? 1:05 Yes, that's correct. 1:06 The other is a satay vendor. Satay, but 1:09 not Semarang satay. Satay. Satay on 1:11 Jalan Ampera, Kemang. And the customers 1:14 are extraordinary. Very many. Many 1:17 officials come there. I once wanted to 1:21 invite Mr. Adiak Sedaud. I wanted to 1:25 invite him for an interview on Rasil, 1:27 but he said, "Ah, I'm too lazy to speak 1:29 in public." 1:30 Heh. "How about we just eat satay 1:32 instead?" So, I was taken to Sate 1:35 Ampera, managed by Muksin Salim Bahajat 1:40 , or Maxi. Peace be upon you, Maxi and 1:43 David. 1:44 And peace be upon you. Welcome to Rasil 1:47 . 1:47 Thank you. Okay, let's start from this, 1:50 from 1:52 David first. What is the story of how 1:54 you ended up in the room fragrance 1:56 business and things like that? Please 1:58 go ahead. 1:59 Alright, thank you. Peace be upon you, 2:01 and Allah's mercy and blessings. To the 2:02 listeners of Radio Silaturahim, let me 2:04 introduce myself, my name is David. I 2:07 live in Jakarta, specifically in 2:09 Kalenderan, right? 2:10 Yes. Born and raised in Jakarta. I 2:13 haven't gone anywhere, I'm a Jakarta 2:15 local. Well, my business didn't 2:18 actually start straight away with air 2:21 fresheners or room fragrances. So, 2:26 I remember very well, in whatever year 2:28 it was, when the Muslim community in 2:30 white clothes gathered at Monas, 2:33 it felt like there was a bright spot 2:35 for the unity of the community at that 2:38 time. The spirit of the community was 2:40 at its peak. So, people started turning 2:43 to the economy, trying to get things 2:45 moving back then, right? Well, there 2:47 were friends who at that time 2:50 tried to build mini-markets. And I 2:53 thought, "Oh, I don't think building a 2:56 mini-market is my capacity.""I'll just 2:59 make the products instead." That was my 3:01 thought. "We'll make products, 3:04 hopefully they'll be accepted by our 3:06 friends who are building the 3:08 mini-markets." But as it turned out, 3:11 maybe there was something wrong. So, 3:14 okay then, that time has passed. But my 3:18 resolve to realize Muslim products was 3:21 strong at that time. So I started 3:25 thinking, what kind of business could 3:29 be used or bought by millions of 3:32 Muslims? Something that is beneficial 3:34 for us and the Muslim community, and 3:36 hopefully becomes a continuous charity 3:37 for us after we're gone. Oh, but people 3:40 remember us because of our works, right 3:43 ? I'm not smart, I'm not a religious 3:45 scholar. 3:46 So, the first thing I actualized and 3:48 worked on was 3:50 baby diapers. 3:52 Yes. Yeah, maybe if we call it Pampers, 3:55 like baby diapers. Well, what was the 3:58 brand back then? The brand was Ad Popo. 4:01 I just kept it simple. Is there a "Popo 4:02 "? That was my thought process. We have 4:05 a local way of speaking. Oh, "Ad". Oh, 4:07 just "Ad Popo". Ah, "Ada popok" means " 4:09 there are diapers," right? 4:10 In 2015, after 11 years at the bank, 4:13 the distribution permit was finally 4:16 issued and it started to be marketed. 4:20 But, yeah, 4:21 socializing or introducing it, 4:25 and the sales weren't easy, actually. 4:28 But thankfully, God showed me a 4:31 distributor in Kudus, Central Java. 4:35 Well, he took over the sales of the 4:38 diaper product at that time. He was the 4:40 one who put in the effort for 4:41 the brand Ad Popo. 4:42 Yes, the brand is Adepo. So, the colors 4:45 are red and white because it's the 4:46 identity of Indonesia. That’s what I 4:48 thought. It's a contribution to the 4:51 people; there aren't many diaper brands 4:53 in Indonesia, and not many factories 4:55 either. So, I handed it over to him. I 4:58 focused on production and providing the 5:01 stock needed for sales at that time. 5:04 Well, 5:07 it went well, with 3,000 people buying 5:09 the product every week. Then, we 5:12 expanded with the same brand for 5:14 tissues. 5:15 Mr. Krisna. So, to optimize sales, if 5:18 people already buy diapers, they will 5:20 likely buy tissues too. It's easy. 5:24 For those who aren't sure or don't 5:25 trust the diapers yet, they buy the 5:27 tissues first. Well, once they buy that 5:29 , the diapers usually follow. And 5:32 eventually, sales doubled. 5:35 But, unfortunately, my distributor 5:38 stopped and went bankrupt 5:41 due to a fraudulent investment. Yeah. 5:44 So, his capital was drained by that. 5:46 Ultimately, up to this day, 5:49 the sales of those diapers and tissues 5:52 have stalled. Only a little bit is 5:55 still running. But not as successful as 5:58 when it was handled by that distributor 6:00 . 6:01 Then, in 2017, I went on Umrah, Mr. 6:06 Krisna. Oh, you went on Umrah. Well, my 6:11 first Umrah, and it was at no cost. 6:14 Hm. 6:16 So, at the time I was at my lowest, I 6:18 had no money, because my money was all 6:20 drained back then to realize that 6:22 diaper project. Diapers. 6:24 And suddenly, someone who had never 6:26 been on Umrah either, 6:28 asked me, "Do you want to go on Umrah?" 6:32 "Ah, I'm just dreaming. I'm in this 6:33 kind of situation. Do you want to go on 6:35 Umrah?" So, I just said yes, and he 6:38 covered the costs, even though he 6:39 hadn't been on Umrah himself. On what 6:42 basis? 6:43 God knows, maybe God moved his heart. 6:46 God moved his heart. So, finally, I was 6:48 there. And when the Umrah procession 6:52 was finished, I kissed the Kaaba. 6:55 When I kissed the Kaaba, the scent was 6:58 so soft. The scent was so soul-soothing 7:01 . The scent just made 7:03 made us feel at peace. Oh God, I guess 7:06 that’s why you have to be careful 7:08 what you say in Mecca. 7:09 So it's best to only speak of good 7:11 things, Mr. Krisna. 7:14 Oh God, give me a chance, I want to 7:16 make an air freshener with the scent of 7:19 the Kaaba. 7:22 Because my mind didn't want to get into 7:25 perfume since our Muslim friends are 7:27 already doing that and there are many 7:29 perfume shops. Yeah. So, I just chose 7:34 air fresheners, the kind they use in 7:36 offices. 7:38 You know, those kinds of things. Yeah. 7:41 It’s like that. 7:42 Yeah, that was the idea I had. Well, 7:44 where did you get the knowledge to 7:45 achieve that, how did you do it? 7:47 I don't know, God just paved the way. 7:50 No, really. I don't have a background 7:52 in production, I'm not a factory person 7:53 . 7:54 So, how did you get it? Well, since I 7:57 already mentioned it when I was in 7:59 Mecca, "Oh God, help me realize a 8:01 product that can benefit the community, 8:04 " that was my goal. I didn't know what 8:08 it was, I only knew it had to be an air 8:10 freshener. An air freshener. Long story 8:14 short, I looked for a way, maybe I 8:17 asked for a few small bottles from the 8:20 guards on duty. 8:23 The ones who dispense perfume at the 8:24 Kaaba. I asked for some, thinking I 8:27 would duplicate the scent. I thought 8:29 I’d look for a traditional perfume 8:31 shop and see if they had something like 8:33 this. Um. I asked, but it turned out to 8:38 be hard to find the same scent. Then, 8:40 as luck would have it, I got 8:42 information to try visiting that French 8:45 company. 8:46 Where? 8:46 In Jakarta. 8:48 Specifically in Cawang. I visited that 8:50 French company. 8:52 They are the largest perfume 8:54 concentrate supplier in Indonesia. They 8:57 are importers and manufacturers. They 8:59 have production facilities in Jakarta. 9:02 So, I brought it to that French company 9:04 to have them match it, so to speak. 9:07 Yeah. They analyze the A elements, B 9:09 elements, and simulate them until they 9:11 produce a match. Is this the same? 9:14 Praise be to God, He paved the way. I 9:17 had gotten to that point, maybe 5 9:20 percent through the process. 9:22 It was about a 5 out of 100. Then I 9:24 just had to find other things. Find a 9:27 production partner and decide on a name 9:29 . I called one of the big factories 9:32 that produces these, the one with 9:34 brands everywhere. I asked if I could 9:37 piggyback production there for a while; 9:40 since I was a small fry, they were 9:43 quite dismissive, obviously. 9:47 I was ignored, they wouldn't even open 9:50 the door, even though if they had known 9:53 about this idea, they might have beaten 9:56 me to it. 9:58 Now there are those scents, like musk, 10:01 that sort of remind you of it. 10:04 But this idea luckily came to us. 10:07 Alhamdulillah, God granted it. If they 10:10 had gotten there first, we might be 10:11 finished. Meaning they would have taken 10:14 the entire market. Well, finally there 10:16 is one factory in Bogor that produces 10:18 it and opened its doors. Well, in 2020, 10:22 thank God it was realized. This is the 10:25 first one, which is the Kiswah scent. 10:28 Oh, 10:31 how many products are there? There are 10:33 two main variants, the Kiswah scent and 10:36 the Nabawi Mosque scent. We used to 10:39 call it Raudoh, 10:41 but it turns out that the Raudoh brand 10:43 has already been registered by a 10:45 non-Muslim. 10:47 Oh, 10:48 you can search for it, these days it's 10:50 easy to check, right? Is this brand 10:53 already used or not? Now, our friends, 10:55 be careful when making products under 10:58 the name Raudah or KISWAH, there are 11:01 legal regulations attached to it. Don't 11:04 just use them, right. If we get sued 11:06 later, we'll be finished. 11:08 So what brand did you use? 11:10 In the end, yes, according to this, the 11:12 brand identity is already certified. AD 11:14 Fres Kiswah scent. Alhamdulillah for 11:17 that. And AD FRES Nabawi Mosque scent. 11:20 So I can't use Raudoh even though 11:22 people already know it as Raudah, just 11:24 Raudoh. So that's how it is, Mr. Krisna 11:26 . 11:26 Okay. Extraordinary, Iwan Nanot, right. 11:29 Earlier, Mas David already gave a 11:31 presentation about, uh, 11:33 air fresheners. 11:34 Yeah. 11:35 There's the Kiswah scent, there's the 11:37 Kaaba scent, all sorts of things, right 11:39 . 11:40 Okay, later we will, later Mas David 11:43 can ask Maksi. Maksi is not allowed to 11:45 ask 11:46 David, okay. 11:47 Peace be upon you, Maksi. 11:49 And peace be upon you too. 11:50 You are Muksin Asalim Mbah Hajat. 11:53 Why did you end up being called Maksi? 11:56 I used to sing in a place in Medan, 11:58 right. I was born in Medan. 12:01 So the people there always called me, 12:03 they couldn't quite pronounce the 'n' 12:04 sound. 12:05 Oh. 12:06 So it became Maksin, Maksin, eventually 12:08 it became Maksi. 12:09 Oh, I see. So eventually I made an 12:11 album 12:13 and the artist name became Maxi. 12:14 Oh, Maksi. Now, then how can you open a 12:19 satay stall in Ampera and it's full of 12:21 customers? What's the story behind that 12:24 ? 12:24 First of all, everything is from Allah 12:26 Subhanahu wa ta'ala, right. First of 12:27 all. Secondly, 12:29 I used to really like the cooking 12:31 business. I like to cook. 12:33 Oh, cooking. What kind of dishes have 12:35 you mastered? 12:35 I really got it from my mother, from my 12:37 older sisters. 12:38 Oh. I like goat because our daily food 12:42 was goat curry, goat soup. 12:45 So I learned, and learned, and learned. 12:46 Eventually, I liked inviting friends to 12:49 eat. Inviting friends to eat until 12:52 finally, because I'm a vocalist, right, 12:54 a vocalist likes to create something so 12:57 that it has flavor, right. 13:00 I wanted to manifest that into reality. 13:02 Ah, just open it. Yeah. 13:04 Ah, so I opened this goat satay place. 13:06 Actually, our specialty is the original 13:08 goat soup. 13:09 But because it's satay, we make satay 13:11 too. So, goat satay, goat soup, goat 13:14 curry. 13:15 Now, because we were also born in Medan 13:18 , we made it have a little Malay touch. 13:20 Oh, there's Medan food. Yes, 13:22 there is Medan food. Lontong Medan, 13:24 nasi lemak. 13:25 This is very delicious. 13:27 There's a satisfaction in being a Medan 13:29 person, we just bring that joy. 13:31 In the morning. Okay. Where did you 13:34 open the shop? Ampera is an expensive 13:37 area. Yeah. 13:38 It's not an expensive area. 13:39 It is expensive, but thank God we got a 13:41 good deal on the rent. 13:42 And we found good people to manage it. 13:45 And how did former ministers and such 13:46 end up coming there, what's the story? 13:49 Well, I’m a singer, so I have many 13:52 friends. 13:53 So they are already used to eating my 13:56 food. 13:56 Oh. When practicing music at home, 13:59 there's a studio, sometimes we practice 14:01 if there's an event. 14:03 So, as soon as I opened, I shared it, 14:05 and they started coming; like this week 14:08 , 30 people. 14:09 Oh. 14:09 Some weeks 50 people, something like 14:11 that. But 14:12 the only thing 14:13 is the cooking is done by the moms. 14:17 So we don't use any additives, we just 14:19 use normal ingredients. 14:21 It's a satay stall that uses a live 14:23 band. Here at Maxi's place 14:25 the band is Lemon Tea, yes. Lemon Tea 14:27 is there. Maxiso is there. 14:29 Ohiso is there. There's also Lemon Teri 14:31 . 14:32 He doesn't want to play at cafes that 14:34 serve alcohol. 14:35 Yes, he has already repented. 14:37 Repented. So he only wants to repent 14:39 and play at halal restaurants. 14:42 Yes. 14:43 That's his style. 14:45 I don't even get a seat, it's so full. 14:48 Lots of takeout, too. Takeout, yes. 14:50 Praise be to God, it's all a blessing. 14:52 Praise be to God. Praise be to God. 14:54 Listeners, if you want to try Maxi's 14:56 satay, it's on Jalan Ampera, what 14:58 number? 14:59 Ampera number 11. 15:01 Jalan Ampera number 11, right? 15:02 11. The landmark is before the red 15:04 light. 15:04 Oh, so every week there's a band there? 15:06 Yes, on Sundays there's a band. Sunday. 15:09 It's the only satay stall that has a 15:10 live band. With a band. 15:12 And it's a top-tier band at that. 15:14 Who is the singer? Huh? 15:16 Toni. 15:17 Toni. Wow. 15:19 80s songs, right? 15:21 Yes. 80s classic rock. I like it. 15:24 I heard you were in Arabia before? 15:25 I spent a long time in Arabia. 15:27 What were you doing there, what work? 15:28 I worked 15:29 I did a lot of work 15:31 including perfume, I worked in perfume 15:34 too. 15:34 But for a long time, my journey was as 15:37 a sales representative. 15:38 Oh. 15:39 A roaming salesman, they called it. In 15:40 Arabic, my job was called a "muazza". A 15:42 muazza delivers goods to the villages, 15:45 to Mecca, 15:46 to Medina, to Yanbu, to Taif. Yes. How 15:49 did you travel? 15:50 I went by land. I had a car, the store 15:52 was in the back. 15:54 I loaded it with all the goods. Like a 15:56 truck. Not a big truck, though. 15:57 So I went around to all those villages. 16:00 Oh. 16:00 That sounds really nice. 16:01 So you know the area well? 16:02 I know it well. 16:03 How many years were you there? 16:04 10. 16:05 10 years. 16:06 I was there for 10 years. 16:07 Yeah. So, we finally understood what 16:10 the Sahara is really like, sleeping at 16:12 gas stations in the scorching midnight 16:14 heat. How are the ups and downs of debt 16:16 collection? Well, 16:18 when it comes to collection, sometimes, 16:20 you know, as a trader, Sir. Sometimes 16:23 it’s just IBM. 16:24 What is that? 16:24 Insyaallah Bukrah (God willing, 16:25 tomorrow). 16:27 IBM. 16:27 We ask, when will you pay? 16:30 God willing, you come back tomorrow. As 16:33 soon as we come the next day, "Mais"( 16:34 sorry), if you came just now, I would 16:36 have paid, come back tomorrow. Well, 16:38 that's just part of the work, you can't 16:40 get angry. 16:41 How do you handle that without getting 16:42 angry? Just be patient. We just 16:44 shouldn't show our true feelings. Don't 16:47 be too yielding either, or they won't 16:49 pay. Pretend, right? Yeah, that's how 16:51 Arab people are, they like it. 16:53 Masyaallah. 16:55 But thank God, everything went well. 16:57 So, you are the delivery guy? 16:59 Muaz is my name, I go around delivering 17:02 their goods. 17:03 It takes a month before I return home. 17:05 Okay. Wow, this is exciting, Muslim 17:10 entrepreneur guests: one in room 17:12 fragrances, one in satay. Can I have 17:16 your phone numbers? Sure, sure, 17:18 sure 17:18 yes. Okay, I'll give you the phone 17:20 numbers later. 17:21 Yes. 17:22 David Alfitri, his business is room 17:24 fragrances. 17:26 Uh-huh. And also 17:28 tissues and diapers. Baby diapers. 17:32 Adopo. 17:33 Oh, Adepo, right. So, it's a room 17:36 fragrance with scents of Mecca. 17:39 Mecca and what? Kaaba and Medina. 17:41 Medina. 17:42 Uh-huh. Raudhah. 17:43 Yeah. Here is the phone number 0817 96 17:49 740. 17:52 0817 17:54 96 740. 17:58 Keep in touch. 17:59 Yes. Keep in touch, right. Yeah. 18:01 Now for Muksin, the satay mogul. Yeah. 18:04 What kind of satay? Goat. And chicken. 18:06 Goat satay. Chicken satay. Liver satay. 18:08 I didn't get any goat satay last time. 18:10 Yes. It sells out fast because I look 18:12 for the young ones. 18:13 Masyaallah. Muksin's phone number 08211 18:19 35 Three ones. 082 11353111. What about 18:32 you, David, what is your business 18:34 principle? Uh, if the scholars and the 18:40 Muslim community don't do business, we 18:43 won't know how the Prophet did business 18:46 . 18:46 Oh, I see. 18:48 So, as much as possible, we actualize 18:50 what we know about the Prophet in our 18:53 business. Yeah. 18:54 Regarding honesty, commitment, hard 18:57 work, 18:59 keeping promises, like paying or 19:01 meeting people, must be committed in 19:02 accordance with the Prophet's traits: 19:04 Sidik, Amanah, Fatonah, Tablig. 19:08 But so far, the profit is good, right? 19:10 Alhamdulillah. So, thank God, because 19:12 the market is wide, covering all of 19:14 Indonesia. If selling satay, people in 19:17 Papua can't buy it, 19:19 Mr. Muksin. But for fragrances, we can 19:22 ship them. This is an opportunity to 19:25 become agents in cities across 19:26 Indonesia. Cibubur is possible. 19:28 Wow, Cibubur is just a jump away. 19:32 What about you, what is your business 19:33 principle? 19:34 I just follow Imam Ghazali. 19:38 The most noble person in the eyes of 19:40 Allah is one who is occupied with the 19:42 world 19:43 for the sake of the afterlife. But we 19:46 have to stop there for now. 19:48 We must take the middle ground. As if 19:51 we must surrender to Allah. May we 19:55 be occupied with the world for the sake 19:57 of the hereafter. Because there is no 19:58 human effort without the permission of 20:00 Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala. 20:02 So there is a short story related to 20:04 this philosophy. 20:06 There was a drunkard 20:08 asking a Sheikh. 20:09 Hm. 20:10 Sheikh, can I be your student? 20:13 Hm. 20:13 I said, "You can 20:15 learn to be my student. Welcome." Hm. 20:18 Can I ask one more thing? Yes, you may. 20:21 Can I be like you? 20:23 The Sheikh 20:23 said, yes, 20:24 if you study, 20:26 later you can be like me if Allah wills 20:28 it. 20:29 Hm. 20:29 Enough. 20:30 The student asked, can I ask one last 20:33 thing? 20:34 Can you, Sheikh, become me? Hm. 20:38 The Sheikh immediately prostrated, 20:39 asking for forgiveness from Allah. 20:40 Oh. 20:41 Because only Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala 20:43 made me a Sheikh. Oh. 20:45 He who created that drunkard 20:48 is the same one we must look to. That 20:50 is why Umar bin Khattab started out 20:52 lowly, but ended up noble. 20:54 Hm. 20:55 So be careful with holiness, be careful 20:58 with fame, be careful with success. 21:02 Allah placed all of that. 21:04 It is placed in the middle. Wisdom, 21:06 this is wisdom. 21:06 Between the two, we might put it there. 21:09 If we don't, we will feel it was our 21:11 own effort that led to 21:12 success, when in fact it is all from 21:14 Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala. 21:15 Okay, here is a question. Brother Maxi 21:19 wants to ask why Arabs are good at 21:22 business? 21:23 Yes. 21:25 Because Arabs live by trading. 21:28 Hm. 21:29 Their lives were...well, the country 21:31 had no potential back then. Sahara. He. 21:34 So, trade has existed since the 21:35 Prophet's time, bringing goods here, 21:37 taking them there, migrating. Hijrah. 21:39 Ah, in that migration. But those are 21:41 the principles of trade that we must 21:44 safeguard. True. 21:46 So Arabs like to trade, and they came 21:48 to Indonesia because of trade. 21:51 They brought an exceptionally strong 21:54 faith. 21:55 That is why many of those who migrated 21:58 were from Yemen. They migrated and did 22:02 not return home. 22:04 Hm. 22:05 They did not bring the place they 22:07 migrated to...They didn't take their 22:09 wealth and dump it in their home 22:11 country. No. 22:12 They married, had children here, lived 22:15 here, and spent their money here. So a 22:18 place becomes prosperous. That is the 22:20 history 22:21 of the Arabs. That is 22:22 if so. 22:23 Okay. MashaAllah. Please, for those who 22:26 want to ask, we are waiting at 0811999 22:31 720. There are two business people here 22:34 . One is brother David, the other is 22:37 brother Maxi. Brother David is a 22:40 producer of Saudi-style room fragrances 22:44 . Then brother Maxi runs a satay stall 22:50 on Ampera, 22:51 culinary. 22:52 Young Goat Maxi. 22:53 Young Goat Maxi. Young Goat Maxi on 22:56 Jalan Ampera number 22:57 number 11. 22:58 Number 11. 22:59 Welcome. 23:00 Welcome. Please come. 23:02 The taste is maximal, the price is 23:04 minimal. 23:04 Ah, MashaAllah. Hopefully. Indeed, 23:08 cheap but maximal taste. The price is 23:11 minimal. 23:13 I want to ask Bang David, Bang David, 23:15 do you also have Arab customers? 23:17 Because the scent is like that. 23:19 Alhamdulillah, it's not just Arabs, 23:21 non-Muslims are also among our biggest 23:23 customers in Cengkareng. 23:24 Oh, I see. 23:25 Yeah. Even in MLMIN. 23:27 Hm. 23:28 They are non-Muslim, uh, Chinese. 23:32 Oh, is that so? 23:34 Alhamdulillah. So, non-Muslims also 23:36 enjoy this scent. So we aren't being 23:39 forced to use scents that smell like 23:41 the Kaaba but make our heads spin. 23:43 The old term used to be "nyongnyong," 23:44 right? But we, uh, we returned. Oh, 23:47 Islam is beautiful, you know. Islam is 23:48 fragrant, you know. Islam is refreshing 23:50 , you know. Islam is modern, like that. 23:53 So we are part of the Da'wah. 23:54 Actually, when we are with non-Muslims, 23:57 we are careful because our Islamic 23:59 identity is what they remember. 24:04 So it's not just Arabs. 24:07 Okay. From Ibu Renong. Bang Masi, I 24:11 want to ask, have you also ever eaten 24:12 satay at other places? 24:15 Oh, many. I, before making satay, I 24:17 traveled around. 24:18 Oh, really? 24:19 And Subhanallah, people liked me. 24:22 I would sit, chat, and they would give 24:24 me their knowledge. 24:26 So, the things I didn't know, like how 24:27 to make the seasoning, they taught me. 24:29 So, what is the most important 24:29 knowledge about satay? How to make the 24:31 satay soft? Delicious. 24:32 Soft, the first key is the goat. 24:34 How old is the goat? 24:36 Under 5 months if possible. So, uh, 24:38 goats that are 5 or 6 kilos. 24:42 Those are sought after; they are 24:43 slaughtered, and the thighs are taken. 24:45 Heh. 24:46 Take it, then skewer it. If the goat is 24:48 young, you don't need to do anything 24:50 else. 24:51 Hm. 24:52 Just grill it and it's done. It's 24:54 already tender. 24:55 What about the seasonings, what do you 24:56 use? 24:56 The seasoning is peanut sauce. Or soy 24:58 sauce seasoning. For the soy sauce 24:59 seasoning, it's quite simple. 25:02 So that the ladies or our friends can 25:04 also practice it. 25:05 Slice the shallots, slice the tomatoes, 25:07 slice the bird's eye chilies. 25:09 Add soy sauce, add lime juice. 25:11 It's just that simple. 25:13 It always runs out at night. 25:14 It runs out. How many goats are 25:16 finished in one night? 25:17 Two, three, it's possible. 25:19 Oh, Masyaallah. 25:20 It's possible, it depends. Sometimes 25:23 there are orders from outside too. 25:25 Oh, there are orders from outside, yeah 25:26 . 25:26 But sometimes that... 25:27 We want to ask for the secrets, Pak 25:29 Krisna. 25:29 Please. 25:30 So that the taste is just right, how 25:33 long or how many minutes do you grill 25:36 it for? 25:38 Grilling, we can't really set a time, 25:39 it depends on the charcoal. 25:41 And how you flip it. 25:42 The important thing is, just grill it 25:44 first. Yeah. 25:45 Once it's been a few minutes, flip it. 25:48 So that it gets some color. 25:50 So we know the color. So the meat 25:53 shouldn't be too dry, just cooked. 25:55 Cooked. 25:56 If the meat juices run out, it'll be 25:58 tough. 25:58 Where do those goats come from? 26:00 The goats, I get them from Java or 26:03 sometimes from Bogor. 26:05 Hm. Hmm. 26:07 It depends. 26:07 How many do you order at a time? 26:09 Uh, I order two, maybe three goats. But 26:11 every two days, or once a day, every 26:13 day. Because he shops, right? 26:15 If it's for dinner, 26:17 if we stock it, it won't taste good. 26:18 When do you cut it for dinner? In the 26:21 morning. 26:21 Uh, it’s cut in the morning. 26:23 Morning? 26:23 In the morning, it's already skewered. 26:26 Hm. 26:26 Skewered at night for morning sales. Hm 26:29 . 26:29 So for tomorrow's sales, it's ready at 26:31 night. So tomorrow we don't have to 26:34 work on it again. 26:35 Yeah. 26:35 Just grill it. 26:36 Okay. Brother Maxi, welcome to Rasil. 26:39 From, from who is this? Arto. 26:43 Uh. How many employees do you have? 26:47 I have nine employees now. 26:49 Nine. 26:50 Nine people currently. 26:51 And how do you handle the salary 26:52 distribution? For 26:53 salary distribution, God willing, 26:55 before the end of the month, everyone 26:56 gets paid. 26:57 Hm. 26:58 Before that, 26:59 it's determined before they apply, what 27:01 the salary will be. It's not, it's not 27:03 a guess, no. 27:04 It's determined. No, not yet, no, no. 27:06 Yeah. 27:06 We pay monthly, following, you know, 27:10 following the rules. 27:12 How many employees do you have, David? 27:14 I don't have many, five people. 27:16 Five people. 27:17 Yeah. So, uh, production, 27:19 who does the production? 27:21 For production, we partner with a large 27:23 factory. Thank God, they accept us now, 27:25 they're welcoming because our sales 27:27 keep rising, growing constantly. 27:29 Amazing. Yeah. So, uh, after they 27:32 report the production results, we start 27:35 distributing to our agents, sir. 27:38 They're in several cities. 27:39 Okay. 27:41 From Riri, Brother David wants to ask, 27:43 how do you handle brand counterfeiting? 27:46 Ah, this is a problem I'm facing, 27:48 including those already selling our 27:51 products. Initially, we were 27:54 known for our air freshener. Suddenly, 27:57 in the field, they're making, you know, 27:59 roll-ons and things like that. Even 28:02 though we weren't in that market before 28:03 . 28:04 In the end, those traders use our brand 28:08 name to sell their items, for example. 28:12 That’s why there are so many Kiswah, 28:14 Raudah, Nabawi in the field. Even 28:17 though, pardon me, that's, uh, illegal. 28:21 Maybe regarding the warning, if no one 28:24 has been caught yet, it might still be 28:26 spreading widely, but again, God has 28:29 arranged our sustenance, so just let it 28:32 be. 28:33 Just let it be? 28:35 Up to this point, I’ve just been 28:37 letting it go, I can't really do much 28:38 either, sometimes. 28:41 But if it's a big company, they 28:42 wouldn't use a registered brand; these 28:44 are just our brothers who, well, let 28:46 them make a living, we're all just 28:48 trying to survive, that's all. Hm. Okay 28:50 . From Mr. Bambang, have Brother David 28:56 and Brother Maxi ever encountered fraud 29:00 or losses? H. 29:03 Well, 29:03 often. 29:05 Now, how do you bounce back then? 29:07 Uh, bounce back, keep going. That’s 29:09 it. It's our sustenance. 29:11 What was the loss? Scammed or something 29:12 ? 29:13 Usually that. So, uh, send it first. 29:16 Even though it's a close friend, they 29:18 wear white caps and turbans. 29:21 Send it first, send it, and later 29:22 they'll, well, send it to them, and 29:24 later they'll 29:25 ask someone else to sell it. 29:27 Well, in the end, the person tasked 29:28 with it didn't deposit it, right? So, 29:31 the person I trusted didn't end up 29:33 making the deposit to me either. So, if 29:37 there ever was 29:39 for me at a restaurant, there wasn't 29:40 one. 29:40 There wasn't, right? Well. 29:44 It's safe, Indonesian people are not... 29:47 So, people still pay, when they send a 29:48 goat, it gets paid for. 29:51 Brother, what's your chant that makes 29:53 your satay sell so well? 29:55 Oh. 29:57 It's from God. Well, if it becomes like 30:04 this, that event with Siti Hajar. 30:07 That event with Siti Hajar was when she 30:10 was left by Prophet Ibrahim at the 30:13 meadow, at the Safa and Marwa. 30:15 Yeah. 30:16 Asked by, yes, the Prophet of God, "Is 30:18 this your idea?" 30:20 Yeah. "No, this is from God." If it is 30:23 from God, then leave us here. 30:25 God will have mercy on us. 30:26 This is the interesting part. 30:28 Trusting in God. 30:29 Starting from what tawaf? 30:33 Marwa. 30:34 Marwa, purity. Satisfaction. Purity, 30:37 satisfaction. 30:38 That shows that as humans, we must 30:40 strive. We 30:41 must show God that we are striving. 30:44 That's why Siti Hajar strove in 30:46 searching for water. Because her child 30:48 was already crying, it was distressing 30:50 Prophet Ismail. 30:52 Up to seven times, she was weak and 30:54 couldn't go on. 30:55 What did God Almighty do? He brought 30:57 forth this Zamzam water. 30:59 But not from her own efforts. Yeah. 31:02 But from the gaps between Prophet 31:05 Ismail's toes. 31:06 My goodness. 31:07 Meaning, hold fast to the causes. 31:11 Yeah. 31:12 Cause and effect; we strive, we work 31:14 hard, we make it good. But never rely 31:16 on it in your heart. 31:18 Provision, steps, meetings, death, and 31:20 soulmates are in the hands of God. So, 31:23 my friend, don't overthink it, just do 31:26 it. If God wills you to be rich, you 31:28 will be rich. If God wills you to be 31:30 poor, just be patient. Because patience 31:33 is better than that wealth. 31:36 David, do you have any questions for 31:37 Maksi? 31:38 My question is just that I want to go 31:40 there already. 31:42 Yeah. Later, listeners, let's try it 31:45 out, maybe give a password to get a 31:47 discount. So, listeners of the show, 31:50 right, Mr. Krisna? 31:52 A discount. 31:54 Oh, the ones listening, is that it? 31:56 We've been at it for so long, so it's 31:57 not a huge fortune. 31:58 Wow, I'm in Bogor and now I want to eat 32:01 Ampera satay. Where is it exactly? Oh 32:03 boy, you're making me crave it. Um, who 32:07 is this from? From Susi. 32:10 Yeah. 32:11 Um, Brother Maksi, have you tried the 32:14 satay places in Ampera and Kemang? 32:18 There aren't many satay places in 32:20 Ampera, right? 32:22 Not many. The famous ones are in 32:24 Kampung Melayu. 32:25 Oh right, there are two there in 32:26 Kampung Melayu. There's Habib, and 32:27 there's Mansur. 32:28 There's Mansur, and there's in Pondok 32:30 Bambu, 32:31 Batimbul. 32:32 Yeah. 32:32 Wow, those are all our great teachers. 32:35 Oh, and where is your satay place? 32:38 All these satay places are really great 32:41 . 32:41 So, fellow Muslims are not competitors, 32:43 they are our teachers. 32:45 Ah, that’s why between us and our 32:47 trade, we put Allah in the center. So 32:54 for what reason? When, well, this is 32:57 also good. This is what the scholars of 33:00 old used to say. If we are happy with 33:02 other people's happiness, 33:04 that person's happiness will come knock 33:06 on our door. "Take this happiness of 33:07 mine." 33:08 Mashallah. 33:08 So there is no need to be rich, 33:10 no need to be poor either; being rich 33:12 is already Allah’s business. But we 33:14 pray, if we are rich, being tested is 33:15 actually quite pleasant, 33:17 truly amazing. Amazing. 33:18 That’s just the talk, not even the 33:20 satay yet. From the Regent. Uh, excuse 33:24 me, sir. Why are you still studying 33:27 Sufism? I said I’ve learned a lot, I 33:31 study Al-Hikam, Sufism, I also joined 33:33 Salafi, I also joined the Al-Wasathiyah 33:36 , NU, Tablighi Jamaat, I joined them 33:39 all. 33:41 Mashallah. 33:43 The important thing is we magnify Allah 33:44 Subhanahu wa ta'ala. We use those 33:46 methods, if it’s suitable, we use 33:48 them. 33:49 If we feel we don't want to use them, 33:51 no need to blame others. 33:53 We just use what we want to use. It’s 33:55 the same. We are not held accountable 33:57 for the arguments. 33:59 Because we are the congregation, the 34:00 followers. 34:01 There are already schools of thought 34:02 from the scholars. There are already 34:04 our scholars giving fatwas. Just let it 34:06 be. We just follow along. It’s best 34:08 to just follow, 34:09 each in their own position. Yes. 34:10 Until we just go with it, that’s the 34:12 best. Yeah, yeah. 34:13 No burden. Okay, ready. 34:17 So you get spiritual nourishment and 34:20 physical nourishment if you eat satay. 34:24 Come to us, we can have a discussion. 34:27 Satay Maksimum. 34:29 Doesn't have to be a story, if you want 34:30 to talk about music, that's fine too. 34:32 Okay. Uh, I’ve been to Sate Ampera, 34:37 it was very crowded. Oh, maybe it was a 34:41 Sunday night. Yeah, sometimes there's 34:44 an event when people come, sometimes 34:47 it's quiet too, sir. Not all of them 34:49 are crowded. 34:50 If it’s just opened, like approaching 34:53 noon, 34:54 yeah. But after lunchtime, it’s quite 34:56 decent. 34:56 So, how do you get the Kaaba fragrance 35:00 and how to visit Ampera? Just come, sir 35:04 , I’ll give you the phone number. 35:06 Yeah. This is David Alfitri, an 35:10 entrepreneur in air fresheners. 35:14 Yeah. 35:15 What else are the scents? 35:16 There are five scents. They are scents 35:18 of the holy cities of Muslims and world 35:21 Islamic civilization. 35:22 H. 35:23 Currently, there are only five. Kiswah 35:25 is the identity of Makkah, Nabawi is 35:28 the identity of Madinah. Tarim is the 35:32 identity of Yemen. Quba. 35:35 Uh, this Tarim is the red one. 35:36 Oh. 35:37 The scent is Arab, 35:40 a bit vintage, right? 35:41 A bit distinct, right? But there are 35:43 many enthusiasts. 35:44 How to get it? 35:45 Because our teachers are the habibs. 35:47 Oh, I see. 35:48 Just a little nudge, you know. Oh yes, 35:50 we make ones like this. 35:51 This is David. 35:53 David, the room fragrance number is 35:55 0817. Got it. Then 96. Then 740. Uh. 36:03 0817 96 740. 36:08 For staying in touch. Still for Ampera 36:11 goat satay, the number is 081. 36:16 0821. Again, 35. 111. 082. 11. 35. 111. 36:34 H. 36:35 Are you all born in December? 36:36 Yes, I heard I was born in December too 36:38 . Capricorn. 36:41 It could be. 36:42 We’re twins. 36:45 Masyaallah. This Muslim entrepreneur 36:50 event is really fun. I'm glad to hear 36:52 that. 36:53 Uh. Mr. Maxsi, what else can you cook? 36:57 Tell us. They say. 36:59 I, uh, like Malay cuisine. 37:02 Because my mother, you know. 37:04 We were raised in the Malay tradition 37:06 in Medan. 37:07 Malay is the key. What’s the secret? 37:08 It’s the courage to use coconut milk. 37:11 So if we make Medan lontong, the 37:13 vegetable stew is different. 37:15 And there’s the tauco sauce. 37:17 Do you have Medan lontong at Ampera? 37:18 We do. Starting Friday, God willing, 37:20 we’ll serve Medan lontong. 37:21 Wow. 37:21 We brought the people from Medan. All 37:23 elderly ladies. 37:25 Yeah. So we have lontong, coconut rice, 37:28 yellow rice, soto. 37:30 Wow. 37:30 Pecal too. 37:33 This is for nostalgia. Just for the 37:35 memories. Because in the morning, you 37:37 need breakfast, right? I. 37:38 With goat soup, people usually come in 37:41 the evening. 37:42 They need the warmth of goat soup. 37:43 They need that warmth in the evening. 37:46 Mr. Iskandar, can Mr. Mangsi cook 37:49 Acehnese food? 37:50 Ah, I’m not good at Acehnese food. 37:52 Not good. 37:53 I can’t cook Acehnese food at all. I 37:55 can't. 37:56 That’s more, you know. 37:57 It’s good, their curry is rich and 38:00 the spices are much stronger. 38:02 We are also lovers. 38:03 I think so, but I don't know. 38:05 We are also culinary lovers. Oh, I see. 38:10 Mr. Masi, why do Arab people eat rice 38:12 now? Even though they didn’t used to 38:14 eat rice. 38:15 Well, because the Arabs who come here 38:17 were born here. 38:19 It’s not the people in Arabia we’re 38:20 talking about. 38:21 In Arabia, they eat bread at night. 38:24 Oh, they eat bread at night. 38:25 During the day, they eat kabsa. Bukhori 38:27 , it’s called. 38:28 And for the cheap and affordable rice, 38:30 there’s a lot. 38:31 We buy. 38:32 That basmati rice. 38:33 It's not that everyone uses basmati 38:36 rice. Where does basmati rice come from 38:38 ? From Pakistan. From. 38:39 Pakistan. From Pakistan, from Egypt too 38:42 . But mostly Pakistan. There are brands 38:44 like Abukas. It’s good. 38:46 So basmati rice is the staple for Arabs 38:50 . In Saudi, yes, I. 38:52 In Saudi, in Yemen, they also use 38:53 basmati. They don't use rice like. 38:55 Ramos. 38:56 This pandan fragrant rice. They don’t 38:59 use that there. 39:00 Yes. 39:01 I don’t know, they seem to like that. 39:03 They don't like sticky rice, do they? 39:04 Bang? 39:04 No. Yeah. Bang Masi, why do weddings in 39:08 Saudi happen at night? Very late at 39:11 night. That’s true. 39:12 Life there really happens at night. 39:15 Oh, I see. 39:16 So they eat until 11:00 or 12:00 at 39:19 night for the men. 39:22 The ladies are at 3. Just having a meal 39:23 . 39:24 Time. 39:26 Not yet. 39:26 Yeah. That's just the custom. 39:28 Maybe for Suhoor. 39:30 So, wedding invitations are for 10. 39:32 That's when people arrive. 39:33 10 o'clock. 39:33 10 o'clock. They just arrive. 39:35 So what are the events usually? 39:37 There aren't really any. Aha. The first 39:39 time I went viral, I 39:40 I went viral because I was singing. 39:42 Oh, singing? 39:43 If you look at the YouTube channel, 39:44 there's 39:45 uh, when Arabs are happy 39:48 that's me singing. 39:49 Oh, how so? 39:50 Like, they showered me with gold bars 39:52 at the Naim wedding. 39:54 The Abu Jad Salim Banaim wedding. Uh, 39:57 coincidentally, I was the one singing. 39:58 Wow. 39:59 You can still sing Saudi songs too? I 40:01 don't dare sing Arabic songs because my 40:02 pronunciation would definitely be a 40:04 disaster. 40:04 Oh, I see. 40:05 I perform Malay songs, like "Ikan Dalam 40:08 Kolam". 40:09 How does that song go? 40:10 Huh? 40:10 What's the song like? For example " 40:13 Jangan-jangan dulu, janganlah diganggu. 40:15 ""Biarkan saja dia duduk tenang-tenang. 40:21 " 40:22 I sang that for the Arabs, and it 40:25 already has 8 million views. Oh, really 40:28 . 40:28 So after that wedding 40:30 what was the YouTube page? 40:31 Someone uploaded it. 40:33 Oh, someone uploaded it. 40:34 So when you open that YouTube channel, 40:37 if you search "when Arabs are happy"" 40:39 When Arabs are happy" 40:40 yeah, when the Arabs are happy 40:42 my face pops up there. There's 40:44 a Malay song. It turns out they like it 40:46 , right? 40:46 Oh, I brought a Malay song to an Arab 40:48 setting. 40:49 I gave them drums. 40:51 I did it like this, using a minus-one 40:52 track. 40:53 Please, go ahead and open your YouTube. 40:55 Type in "when Arabs are happy". Yep, 40:57 that's me singing. 40:58 I went to a camel shop, a satay place. 41:01 I eat camel, sir. Young camel. 41:03 I immediately asked for a photo. I'm 41:07 famous among Arabs too, the Indonesian 41:09 singer guy. 41:10 Eh, 41:11 anyway, 41:12 how did you know Mr. Ihsan earlier? 41:13 What's the story with Mr. Ihsan Thalib? 41:14 Mr. Ihsan Thalib is, first of all, a 41:16 good man. 41:17 Yeah. 41:18 I know the story. MashaAllah 41:19 Tabarakallah. 41:20 Secondly, I've known Umi Padlon for a 41:22 long time. I was once considered Umi 41:24 Padlon's own son. Yeah. 41:25 So I often visited Mr. Parit's place, 41:28 Mr. Ihsan's place, just to maintain 41:31 ties. We used to visit often in the 41:34 morning around 10 before they went to 41:36 work, we'd come with Padlon. So, it's 41:39 an old story, I've known them for maybe 41:41 15 years. 41:42 Okay. And David, how long have you 41:44 known Rasil? 41:45 Since I worked at the bank back then. I 41:48 used to wear my headset. 41:50 So, on my trip from Kalender to Pluit, 41:52 I always listened to Rasil. I knew 41:54 exactly what time the shows were, which 41:57 days, and who the speakers were; I 42:00 memorized them, and that's what filled 42:02 the religious space in my mind and soul 42:05 . 42:05 And David, what's your favorite food? 42:07 What, me? I like Nasi Uduk. 42:12 Oh. Oh. 42:13 Betawi food. 42:14 How about satay? 42:15 Love satay. We must go there until 42:19 Usually eating chicken satay with goat 42:21 tongseng is backwards like that. Oh, 42:24 it's mixed, a combination. 42:29 Hey Brother, how do you eat satay, goat 42:31 , and other things so you don't get 42:33 cholesterol? 42:34 H 42:35 Wow 42:36 If it's young goat, yes, but I'm not a 42:38 doctor, sir, I wouldn't dare say it's 42:40 completely safe. 42:43 Yeah. What's clear is that almost all 42:48 prophets 42:49 prophets kept goats. 42:51 Yeah. And treated their guests with 42:53 goat meat. And the Prophet once said he 42:56 liked goat leg. 42:58 He 42:59 meaning there must be goodness in the 43:01 goat. 43:02 But maybe 43:04 ah, there are other elements that 43:06 aren't allowed, or are allowed, we 43:08 don't dare speak, that's for the doctor 43:11 . 43:11 Yeah. But in my opinion, we Arabs have 43:14 eaten goat for a long time. 43:15 Hm. If Arabs make 43:17 can you not eat goat as an Arab? 43:20 Goat or chicken slaughter, the innards 43:22 are usually thrown away. If here, it's 43:24 still cooked in 43:24 in magdab, wrapped, it's called magdab. 43:28 Goat stomach and intestines are wrapped 43:29 . 43:30 Oh, it's not thrown away. 43:30 That, if you eat it with grilled meat, 43:32 it's delicious. 43:32 Wow. Can already imagine it. 43:36 Fried meat. I make fried meat, you can 43:38 imagine it. Oh, how do you do it? That 43:40 is fried meat without oil. So I fry it 43:42 but without any oil. 43:44 Oh, 43:45 what's the benefit of that? What's the 43:46 advantage? If 43:47 we are truly eating our meat. 43:50 Oh, delicious. 43:51 You can taste it, but with that one 43:52 note. The goat must be young, that's 43:54 the only key. That's it. H. 43:56 We don't need to beat around the bush, 43:58 just go back to that. The goat must be 44:01 young. 44:02 Yeah. 44:03 What's the difference between male and 44:04 female? The taste 44:05 is the same. But many sold are female. 44:07 Female. I 44:08 males are sometimes rarely tough and 44:12 plentiful. 44:13 Mr. Wasi, what's the difference between 44:16 lamb and regular goat meat if it's not 44:18 satay? 44:19 Lamb meat is sweet. Sweeter than 44:22 regular goat. 44:24 Ah, it's also more tender. 44:26 But this Javanese goat, if made into 44:28 soup, is very beautiful. 44:30 He he. 44:30 No fat. 44:32 Lamb sometimes has fat, but the young 44:34 ones don't have that much fat. 44:37 Hm. He. 44:38 So the soup isn't too fatty if you use 44:40 Javanese goat. 44:41 He. 44:42 Javanese goat, but it still must be 44:45 young. 44:46 Okay. 44:46 That's why we still have many 44:48 shortcomings in making this satay. We 44:51 still have a lot to learn from the 44:53 masters, these people of ours who are 44:55 great at making satay. We must come 44:58 often. 44:58 Where does satay originally come from 44:59 anyway? Actually 45:01 satay, in my opinion, from what I see, 45:03 it's from Indonesia. 45:04 Indonesia. 45:05 Because in Arab, it's grilled meat. Yes 45:07 . 45:07 Oh, I see. 45:08 But grilled meat is a lot of work 45:11 to discard and you can't sell it 45:13 quickly. 45:14 If it's grilled satay, it's small. H. 45:16 So it's ready immediately, office 45:17 workers can eat satay. But I don't dare 45:20 say it's from Indonesia, otherwise 45:22 others might get upset. But I know that 45:24 I 45:25 can't find satay sold in Arabia. 45:27 Indonesia is so rich with Madura satay, 45:29 Padang satay. 45:30 Nothing is better than Indonesia, 45:32 it’s the best in the world. Nothing. 45:34 All the food is delicious. 45:35 Perhaps. Well, we don't really know. 45:38 Yeah. 45:39 Maybe heaven on earth is here in 45:40 Indonesia. Everything. 45:41 All kinds of food. 45:42 All food is available and it's all 45:44 delicious. The most peaceful life is in 45:47 Indonesia. 45:49 It's just hard for us to see that. 45:54 The connection between the government 45:56 and us, the business owners, it's not 45:58 yet in synergy. 46:00 If this were already in synergy, we 46:01 would be the richest, Sir. 46:02 Yes. Like Laksa, it’s only available 46:04 at the Singapore airport. Yeah. 46:06 People think it's Singaporean food, not 46:08 ours. 46:08 We eat soto, that’s extraordinary 46:10 Betawi food. We eat Lamongan soto, 46:12 it’s extraordinary. We just eat soto. 46:14 Betawi Soto. 46:16 That’s just soto, not even mentioning 46:17 the others. MasyaAllah. 46:18 Not to mention its natural beauty. 46:21 Not to mention the natural resources. 46:23 Yeah. 46:23 We just need to reach an agreement, Sir 46:25 . Reach an agreement, those who manage 46:28 this country and the scholars, just 46:30 agree to sit together. 46:32 Let's make our lives better, Sir. Yes. 46:34 Yeah. So that the price of satay can 46:36 even go up and still be bought. 46:39 I once ate satay in Kebumen that didn't 46:42 use 46:42 didn't use skewers, just satay like 46:44 that. 46:45 Right away. Oh, it’s also very 46:47 delicious in Kebumen, in Sukabumi, in 46:49 this place. Oh, it’s all delicious, 46:51 everything is great. 46:52 Okay. So when are we going to do this 46:55 for real? 46:55 Ahlan wa sahlan, Krisna, if you're 46:57 fasting, if not, I'll make you sorbah 47:00 right away. Just send it later. 47:03 Sorbah later. 47:03 What is that sorbah? 47:04 Wheat porridge. 47:05 Oh, wheat porridge, sorghum or what? 47:08 No, lamb sorbah. So when fasting, 47:10 eating wheat sorbah is good for the 47:12 stomach. 47:13 Wow. 47:14 Comforting for the stomach because it's 47:16 not heavy. 47:17 Hm. 47:18 There will be plenty during Ramadan, 47:21 we'll make it, God willing. 47:22 Okay. Wow, Rasil, you should invite 47:25 guests like this more often. This is 47:27 very inspiring, I feel 47:28 Yes. Motivated. Come on, Muslims, rise 47:31 up again. 47:34 Uh, Bang David, do you have a counter 47:38 or a shop where we can buy room 47:40 fragrance products? 47:43 Yes, just send me a WhatsApp message 47:45 later. I mean, so that Muslims can be a 47:48 part of it with me to introduce it to 47:51 the community. Why don't you just 47:54 become the counter, Ma'am? Or 47:57 if, if I'm a reseller, is that allowed? 47:58 Reseller? Yes, that's allowed. 48:00 Nowadays, there are affiliates, you 48:02 don't need capital, no need for capital 48:03 at all. 48:04 If someone buys, just send it to me, 48:07 I'll be the one to ship it, just sell 48:10 it. 48:10 Okay, this is David's phone number 0817 48:14 96 then 740, 0817 then 96740 48:23 We'll display it later at Bang Ma's 48:26 satay stall so that the Rasil listeners 48:29 who are listening today. Oh, they want 48:33 to know the Kiswa aroma, let's 48:35 collaborate and try the meatball soup. 48:40 The phone number for Bang Maksi or 48:41 Muhsin Salim Bahajat, his number is 48:43 Nuim Hayat Bahajat, right? Nuim, Nuim. 48:46 Nuim, yes, Bahajat. 48:47 Do you know Gang Bengkok in Medan? 48:48 Gang Bengkok is where great Islamic 48:51 scholars used to teach. 48:53 Oh, Gang Bengkok. 48:54 So, Mr. Nuim's father was also a great 48:56 scholar in Mecca. Teaching in Mecca. 48:59 Hmm. 48:59 Oh, what about Labuhan Lili? 49:01 In Labuhan Lili, there is a grand 49:03 mosque, the first Sultan's mosque there 49:05 . Labuhan Grand Mosque. Labuhan used to 49:08 be the biggest city there 49:11 because of the port, but as time 49:14 moves on, there are changes. 49:17 Alright, this is Bang Maksi Sate's 49:18 number. Bang Maksi Sate's number is 082 49:22 H 11 49:23 3553. 35 5311 08211 35 1 Oh, Mr. Isa is 49:40 listening. Wow, he says it's very 49:42 exciting. 49:45 Okay, what about the price for each one 49:49 ? Wow. 49:51 The price 49:53 is the same as other air fresheners 49:55 currently on the market, 49:58 the branded ones. 49:59 Sometimes, just because they are Muslim 50:01 entrepreneurs, when they make a product 50:03 , the price suddenly doubles. 50:05 Competitor prices, for instance, 50:07 like soap. Now, if it's a Muslim one, 50:10 why is it tripled? Well, our price is 50:11 the same. 50:12 So that the Muslim community will 50:14 switch over. 50:15 It's time for the mosque's scent to 50:16 match the scent of the Qibla. 50:18 Ah, ready. Wow. 50:21 This is truly great. 50:22 Bang David, can it be used for the 50:24 scent inside a car? 50:26 Yes, we actually have many variants 50:29 because of this one air freshener. " 50:32 Make a roll-on version," they said. So, 50:34 we finally made it. "Make the one that 50:35 hangs in the car," so we made it. God 50:37 willing, hopefully by the beginning of 50:39 next year we will make the one that 50:41 hangs on the AC, 50:42 like the one competitors have; we will 50:45 make one like that. But it requires 50:47 significant investment. Which mosque is 50:50 already using this? 50:51 Uh, Pondok Indah. 50:52 Oh, Pondok Indah. 50:53 Yeah. Pondok Indah is part of the 50:55 sellers selling it, right? Ustaz 50:58 Rusmono, the one who handles bodies, 51:00 right? He is very active in promoting 51:03 this air freshener. 51:04 Hmm. 51:06 Bang Maksi, I want to ask. How long 51:10 will Bang Maksi run the satay 51:12 restaurant business? Wow. 51:15 How long into the future? Heh. 51:18 Only God knows. 51:19 Can we franchise it? 51:21 There isn't one. 51:21 Not yet. Yeah. 51:22 It's hard to manage. 51:25 Even though, you know, sharing is good. 51:27 Sharing the blessings. If you want to 51:28 learn, just come here, we'll teach you. 51:30 What time do you close? 51:31 11:00. At 11 o'clock. At night. 51:33 From 51:33 11:00 in the morning. 51:35 Whoa. 51:35 But we open at 6:00 now. 51:37 Oh. In the morning. 51:38 6:00 AM until 11:00 PM. So there is 51:40 breakfast. 51:41 There is lontong, using lontong. 51:43 Lontong. 51:45 Medan lontong. This, Ustaz, 51:47 the prices are cheap, don't worry about 51:49 us. 51:50 As long as the employees can eat. 51:53 If you're an entrepreneur, you can 51:54 definitely afford it. 51:56 Masyaallah. 51:57 Entrepreneurs can treat others. 51:59 What are the ups and downs of running a 52:02 satay stall? 52:03 It really takes endurance. Indeed, sir. 52:05 Endurance is necessary. 52:06 Especially how 52:08 sometimes when I was starting out, 52:10 nothing sold yet. 52:12 Talking 52:13 it's sad. 52:14 Yeah. So, there was no other way. The 52:18 funny thing is, we were completely 52:19 ruined and hit rock bottom. We had 52:21 already reached the highest peak 52:23 earlier 52:24 we complained to our friend. 52:25 Yeah. 52:26 Yeah. 52:27 Yeah. 52:27 Then 52:28 we, I have an older brother, like that 52:31 I thought I would be accepted and 52:33 acknowledged like this. Yeah. 52:35 His name is Bang Abdul Satar. 52:38 Abdul Satar. Yeah. 52:39 I said, "Bang, I've risen again, I want 52:41 to..." 52:43 meaning that hardship meant nothing. 52:47 For an entrepreneur like Bang Abdul 52:49 Satar, that meant nothing. "Ah, it's 52:51 normal to struggle.""Just get back up." 52:53 "Fallen?""It's normal to fall, so we 52:54 can't just complain.""The way is to 52:57 just get back up again, how? Only God 53:00 knows, just rise again." 53:02 Well, this is good, this fellowship is 53:04 what brings fortune. Amen. 53:08 Yeah. This fellowship is what brings 53:09 fortune, there's nothing else like it. 53:12 Okay, Kang Fajar, is there still time? 53:18 Okay, right. 53:19 Oh, it's closing time, they say. Okay, 53:21 alright. This is the final part now, 53:22 okay? I, what is it called? Giving 53:25 David's phone number for, uh, the room 53:28 fragrance entrepreneur. David's number 53:32 is 0817 then 96 740, 0817 96 740, then 53:37 for Bang Maksi, the number for Bank 53:42 Maksi Sate Ampera is 08211 3511 with 53:53 three ones at the end. Okay, thank you, 53:56 Bang Maksi and Bang David. Anything 53:58 else you'd like to say in closing? Each 54:00 of you, please. 54:02 Strive as Siti Hajar strived. May we 54:06 all be blessed by Allah as Allah 54:08 blessed the Zamzam water. 54:10 Amen. 54:11 That never runs out. 54:12 And we pray 54:14 that the Silaturahim radio continues to 54:18 be honored by Allah, blessed by Allah, 54:20 graced, and have its paths opened. 54:22 David 54:23 I'll join in on this wisdom, okay? 54:26 Start with prayer, do more deeds. Be 54:30 the greatest. 54:31 Masha'Allah. 54:32 Insha'Allah. Amen. 54:34 That was a really great closing. Okay, 54:36 thank you once again, Bang David and 54:38 Bang Maksi. Insha'Allah, we can come 54:41 visit sometime, right? 54:43 Okay, thank you. I am Muhammad Krishna 54:46 Fajar Hidayah, signing off. Wabillahi 54:49 taufik walhidayah. Wassalamualaikum 54:51 warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. 54:52 Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi 54:54 wabarakatuh. Warm regards. 54:57 Masha'Allah. Wow. 
