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0:19 Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy 0:21 and blessings. How are you, Brother 0:23 Nuim? 0:24 And upon you be peace, and Allah's 0:25 mercy and blessings. I am doing well. 0:27 Praise be to God. 0:28 Praise be to God. Ah, Melbourne is 0:30 extraordinary. Many Indonesians are 0:34 stranded, perhaps some are with you, 0:37 Brother Nuim, because flights were 0:39 canceled worldwide due to the Anak 0:42 Krakatau volcanic activity. Its 0:46 predecessor was incredible, 143 years 0:49 ago it claimed the lives of 36,000 0:52 people, you know. The whole world was 0:56 affected from August 26 to 27. 1883. So 1:01 , Brother Nuim, what wisdom can be 1:03 drawn from this? Yes, I also want to 1:06 inform you about this book—you enjoy 1:09 reading, right?—the book "Islam Ala 1:11 Prabowo." Ah, how do you see this " 1:14 Islam a la Prabowo," Brother Nuim? Well 1:16 , many commentators have all sorts of 1:18 opinions. But not long after, four 1:20 volcanoes in Indonesia erupted 1:22 simultaneously. Who knows what sign 1:24 this is; only God knows the truth. 1:26 That’s just more "coincidology" at 1:27 work, isn't it? Meanwhile, the global 1:30 situation continues to escalate. It's 1:32 extraordinary. What is it called? 1:36 Netanyahu is still convinced he will 1:39 topple the Iranian government. Who 1:42 knows what is going on inside his head. 1:45 The world is increasingly disgusted 1:47 with this person's behavior. Even the 1:49 American citizens themselves. Perhaps 1:52 Brother Nuim can shed some light on why 1:55 global food prices will soar to their 1:57 highest since 2022. There are many 2:01 incredible farms in Australia and many 2:03 agricultural jobs awaiting the 2:05 millennial generation. Please, Brother 2:07 Nuim, the floor is yours for the next 2:09 30 minutes. 2:11 Yes. In the name of God, the Most 2:12 Gracious, the Most Merciful. Peace be 2:13 upon you, and Allah's mercy and 2:14 blessings. Indeed, this particular book 2:17 seems to be inviting many reactions. 2:21 Perhaps there is a misunderstanding 2:24 or maybe why was it published so 2:26 quickly, why not wait until the end of 2:28 the 5-year term, for example, to truly 2:31 get a picture of a leader's 2:33 achievements. Because in the past, we 2:37 knew of statements regarding "Islam 2:39 Nusantara." Islam Nusantara, even by 2:42 the Nahdlatul Ulama, we didn't hide it, 2:44 did we? Siraj, he himself said— 2:49 Agil Siraj, well, it cannot be because 2:52 — 2:54 according to a prominent Christian 2:56 scholar in Canada, Wilfred Cantwell 2:59 Smith, 3:02 he said he was very surprised why so 3:05 many Muslims seem reluctant to state 3:08 that Islam is the only religion whose 3:11 name was given by God. Yes, this verse 3:15 was revealed in the ninth year of the 3:17 Hijrah, 3:20 when the Prophet was on his way to 3:22 perform his first and last Hajj. 3:25 Because he only performed Hajj once, it 3:27 was revealed 3:28 that this religion is a religion that 3:30 has been perfected. So it is not a 3:34 religion for oppression and the like. 3:38 Because if we look at the verses in the 3:40 Quran, it strictly forbids, it 3:42 prohibits 3:44 the taking of any life, regardless of 3:47 one's religion. A person whose life is 3:50 taken arbitrarily, Allah Subhanahu wa 3:52 Ta'ala says in the Quran, is the same 3:54 as taking the life of all of humanity. 3:58 Whereas if a single human life is saved 4:01 , it is like saving the lives of all 4:04 humanity. So this is very interesting 4:08 because indeed this is a religion 4:09 referred to as a blessing for the 4:11 universe. So it is not an issue. Now, 4:15 we have not seen it, I have not read 4:17 the book Islam Ala Prabowo myself. Not 4:20 yet. But 4:23 it feels like there needs to be deeper 4:25 consideration because those involved 4:27 here include, for example, people from 4:29 NU, people from Muhammadiyah, and so on 4:31 . This 4:34 makes us wonder whether this book will 4:37 later spark its own controversy. God 4:41 knows best. But 4:43 we will discuss it later after there is 4:44 perhaps an explanation or a possibility 4:46 to read this book more broadly. 4:48 But returning to the issue of what is 4:50 happening right now in the Middle East, 4:52 especially between America and Iran 4:55 it appears that 4:57 it seems Donald Trump has started to 4:59 get bored. Oh, 5:01 bored with this Iran issue because it 5:03 has been going on for too long. 5:05 He expected that in a fleeting moment 5:07 he could wipe out Iranian civilization, 5:09 he said. But now there is a suspicion 5:13 that Trump will consider his job done 5:17 because he does not want what happened 5:19 before to recur. For example, when 5:22 America entered Vietnam and then 5:24 scurried away in April 1974, if I'm not 5:27 mistaken. That was truly embarrassing. 5:31 Heh. 5:31 How could people who were always 5:33 insulted as 5:34 soldiers or troops who wore 5:37 as they said, who wore black pajamas. 5:41 Because that was the favored attire in 5:43 Vietnam, they could overwhelm America, 5:45 with 50,000 of its soldiers killed 5:47 there. 5:48 Now, this is truly heartbreaking for 5:52 the United States, so now he also does 5:55 not want what is referred to as a 5:59 defeat to happen. Yes. 6:01 So how can he do it? Well, as usual, 6:03 Trump will claim he won. 6:05 But reportedly, Iran will not back down 6:07 even an inch 6:09 from their determination to continue 6:11 developing weapons—not nuclear 6:13 weapons, but nuclear technology—which 6:16 , according to Ayatollah Ruhollah 6:18 Khomeini, is forbidden as a weapon. 6:22 Because as stated by an observer of 6:25 Islam from England, yes, but he is not 6:28 a Muslim. Hm. 6:30 He said that in Islam, weapons of mass 6:33 destruction are forbidden 6:36 because they can kill or injure people 6:39 who are not involved. 6:42 Yes. 6:43 Who are not involved in that war. So 6:46 this is a—this is a 6:49 these are all teachings conveyed by 6:51 Islam that perhaps are not widely 6:54 revealed to humanity, so all that is 6:56 remembered is just ISIS. ISIS is not 6:59 Islam, and Islam is not ISIS. Yes, 7:03 so this might be 7:06 our material for consideration to 7:08 discuss this issue. Therefore, it is 7:11 said that Trump, when he last spoke a 7:14 few days ago, last Wednesday if I'm not 7:16 mistaken, finished his speech with a 7:19 bright red face. That was not because 7:21 he was angry, 7:22 but perhaps there were health problems 7:25 affecting him. And then also one of his 7:28 high-ranking officials, one of his 7:30 ministers, also said they would no 7:32 longer demand this and that from Iran. 7:36 Iran also stated, yes, Iran said it 7:39 would not back down an inch even though 7:42 America threatened to attack places 7:45 considered to be warehouses of nuclear 7:48 or uranium materials by Iran. So this 7:52 current situation is interesting. Why 7:54 could America start this as a small 7:56 issue, as Trump said? 7:59 Well, it has already been almost 7 8:01 months now. What is happening? 8:04 With such great weaponry and so on, 8:06 they are still unable to do what they 8:09 wanted, which is to destroy a 8:10 civilization, to wipe a civilization 8:12 off the face of the earth. This is 8:15 actually something very extraordinary. 8:17 So for America, this is a blow, yes. So 8:21 , as people say, it is like the late 8:24 Muhammad Ali as a heavyweight boxer 8:26 having to fight a lightweight boxer but 8:29 failing to knock them out. this. Now, 8:33 this is what has become the problem now 8:35 , actually. Therefore, many people are 8:38 asking if there has been a misstep on 8:40 Donald Trump's part in this matter. He 8:44 took an action that he thought would be 8:46 over in the blink of an eye. It turns 8:48 out that until now it is still dragging 8:50 on and the impact is extraordinary on 8:52 the people of the United States 8:53 themselves, not just on the people of 8:55 Iran. H 8:56 we know 8:59 that recently a wedding party in Iran 9:01 was attacked, four people died there, 9:03 including a child, and this is 9:05 embarrassing for America even though 9:07 America had said "boots on the ground" 9:11 we will place troops in Iran, but they 9:13 don't dare to do that. Afraid of what? 9:16 That the disasters that once befell 9:18 America, not only in Vietnam but also 9:20 in Afghanistan, would happen again, we 9:22 know. Yes. And regarding Afghanistan, 9:25 not only America but the Soviet Union 9:27 at that time was also overwhelmed. So 9:30 they have to be careful in this regard. 9:32 Yes. Yes, this conflict in Iran is 9:35 indeed extraordinary because it is 9:38 affecting various places in the world. 9:42 Oil prices have started hitting 90 9:44 again and food prices continue to rise. 9:47 America itself is also overwhelmed by 9:50 facing pressure that has been opposed 9:52 by more than 60%of its own people. 9:55 Meanwhile, the election is coming up 9:56 soon. But why is Netanyahu so stubborn 9:59 and so sure he can disturb this Iranian 10:02 government, brother? Is it that much, 10:04 brother? 10:05 isn't it because he knows that if he 10:07 does something and there is retaliation 10:10 from Iran, 10:11 America is forced 10:13 is forced to intervene. There is a 10:15 compulsion here. We see, 10:18 we see now he is starting to, for 10:20 example, condemn the Israeli settlers 10:22 in the West Bank who are committing 10:24 very inhumane acts, 10:27 unacceptable. How Palestinian civilians 10:31 are treated like that, not by the 10:34 Iranian—eh, Israeli defense forces, 10:37 but by ordinary people, by ordinary 10:41 settlers. So they are making the people 10:44 judges as if they were there. And this 10:47 means that if the people become judges, 10:49 well, this seems like an unjust trial, 10:50 this is the law of the jungle and so on 10:52 . And they know if, for example, they 10:57 provoke Iran and Iran retaliates, then 11:00 America is forced to intervene. 11:04 Forced to intervene 11:06 because of Iran, 11:07 because Israel has nuclear capabilities 11:09 . 11:11 Oh. In the Negev Desert, which was 11:15 admitted by people like, uh, their 11:17 prime minister, yes, the female prime 11:20 minister of Israel, Golda Meir, once 11:23 admitted it when interviewed by the BBC 11:27 she said we have nuclear weapons and we 11:31 will use them if we feel threatened. 11:35 Oh. 11:35 Now, what does this mean? That if one 11:37 is hit, we want to join in. If we are 11:40 to be victims, we won't be alone; we 11:41 will sacrifice the entire Middle East. 11:44 Now, this is what makes America have to 11:47 be on guard, yes, to be careful because 11:50 not a single president in America wants 11:52 to acknowledge that Israel possesses 11:55 nuclear weapons, which, nota bene, 11:57 contradicts the nuclear 11:59 non-proliferation agreement signed by 12:01 America. The only American President 12:06 who dared to say that Israel has no 12:08 right to possess nuclear weapons was 12:12 Kennedy. And what happened to Kennedy? 12:14 Yes, John F. Kennedy. 12:16 He said it couldn't be 12:18 because international law must be 12:20 upheld. 12:22 JFK said that, and it turned out that 12:25 it made Kennedy—well, we know what 12:27 happened in November in, yes, in Texas. 12:32 Therefore, when Obama was asked about 12:34 Israel's nuclear weapons, he did not 12:35 want to answer at all. He didn't want 12:38 to answer. 12:39 He just stayed silent. As Javanese 12:40 people say, just keeping quiet, 12:42 something like that. 12:44 Yes. Yes. Uh, this one country is 12:46 indeed, indeed, indeed extraordinary. 12:49 Meanwhile, uh, America is looking for 12:52 another stage, going to Russia to try 12:54 to persuade Putin, uh, regarding 12:56 Ukraine. Doesn't it seem like this has 13:00 become America's proxy? From the 13:03 beginning, we remember that early in 13:05 the war, Turkey was almost ready to 13:06 broker peace, but it turned out America 13:08 sent ammunition, which seems, oh, it 13:10 seems the war is being nurtured. How do 13:14 you see it, Bang Nui? 13:16 No, it's not just that. We know that in 13:18 Pakistan at that time, it was almost 13:21 achieved. Hm. 13:22 But the story we received is that then 13:26 Netanyahu called the American Vice 13:29 President 13:30 who was in Pakistan at that time 13:32 and it wasn't signed, even though it 13:34 had already been agreed upon through 13:36 the mediation of Pakistan. Now, what is 13:38 happening right now 13:40 is the rumor that in reality, 13:42 especially American Tomahawk missiles 13:44 have been greatly reduced. 13:46 Oh. Caused by this Iran war, 13:49 America can no longer continue to 13:51 supply, to feed, uh, to, uh, what, uh, 13:54 base 13:55 Ukraine, to Ukraine its weapons. 13:58 Because it needs these weapons. First, 14:01 for defense 14:02 yes, to give an impression to potential 14:05 opponents if there are any. And second, 14:08 it is a fact that Tomahawks and tools, 14:10 uh, or missile interceptors are already 14:13 very scarce. So America can no longer 14:17 provide such aid to Ukraine. That is 14:20 what caused them to then send his 14:22 son-in-law 14:23 namely Jared Kushner, a person who 14:25 happens to be of 14:26 uh, Jewish descent to conduct talks 14:29 there. And it seems it also won't 14:33 succeed because Ukraine, according to, 14:35 uh, Putin, is the territory 14:38 of 14:39 Russia. It can only be resolved if 14:41 Ukraine returns to Russia. If not, it 14:43 cannot be finished. So the issue we see 14:47 is why America is now even sending two 14:50 of its negotiators to face Zelensky, 14:53 but in reality, it seems it will be 14:55 difficult to reach an agreement between 14:58 Russia and Ukraine if Russia's demands 15:01 are not met. Yes. Russia says it's 15:05 already gone too far. But that is the 15:09 world; it seems to have weapons of mass 15:11 destruction, wars, and so on. But in 15:14 Indonesia, Bang Nuim, nature has become 15:17 a problem once again. When 142 years 15:21 ago, tens of thousands of living beings 15:24 died because of Krakatoa. Now the child 15:28 is causing trouble again. Neither the 15:30 child nor the father, this is giving us 15:31 a headache. What does Bang Nuim see 15:33 concurrently with that? Other mountains 15:36 are coughing too. This is as a country 15:39 that has, you know, various 15:41 premonitions. What does Bang Nuim see 15:44 from this tale? 15:47 There is a singer named Ebiet G. Ade 15:50 who says that nature is no longer 15:52 friendly to mankind. But he said at 15:55 that time in Indonesia 15:57 regarding Mount Merapi Krakatoa, the 15:59 child of Krakatoa. So the English say, 16:01 "Like father, like son." What about the 16:04 father? Like water from the eaves. The 16:06 water from the eaves doesn't fall far 16:08 from where it drips. 16:09 This is the problem. This is the 16:11 problem, there is one, right. Heh. 16:13 This is because it is indeed caused by, 16:15 among other things, perhaps having a 16:17 connection 16:18 with the climate change that is talked 16:20 about nowadays. 16:21 This is what causes these eruptions to 16:23 happen. But we must also remember that 16:27 when Krakatoa erupted, Europe went dark 16:31 . 16:32 Huh. 16:33 In that dark Europe, it created the 16:34 possibility that people could not leave 16:36 their homes. They started doing 16:38 something. That was one of the works 16:41 considered quite great, which is, if I 16:43 am not mistaken, about the giant 16:44 Frankenstein. It was written 16:48 when Krakatoa darkened even Europe and 16:50 it reached South America. Its dust 16:53 reached South America. 16:56 So if we look at it, human strength 16:58 cannot actually fight the power of 17:00 nature. So now there is some kind of 17:03 prophecy, if you want to call it a 17:05 prophecy, and we don't want to 17:08 yes, we don't want to use shamans, this 17:10 is not allowed, it can be shirk ( 17:12 idolatry) 17:13 but there is an estimate 17:15 that the world will indeed end on 17:18 November 13, 2026, so perhaps before 17:21 the midterm elections in the United 17:23 States are finished, which will perhaps 17:26 teach Donald Trump a lesson. Heh. 17:30 Now, this is something that is truly 17:32 extraordinary. Devastating fires are 17:35 happening in various places. What we 17:37 see happening in Nepal right now. All 17:40 of this is 17:42 this is perhaps a message from nature 17:45 to us that, yes, we humans have 17:47 limitations. Don't be too arrogant as 17:51 humans as if you are powerful and can 17:53 do everything. This is happening and it 17:56 is certainly very worrying. It's not 18:00 just happening at Krakatoa, how about 18:02 Sinabung in North Sumatra, in the 18:04 region. This is happening 18:08 to the point where you could say the 18:10 dust can be seen and it disturbs many 18:13 people who have to use masks. I saw 18:16 photos of cars covered in this dust. So 18:21 this really creates an extraordinary 18:23 problem. Especially because this 18:26 volcano has a history beyond Krakatoa, 18:29 we know of Pompeii. 18:31 Which is now in Italy, also devastated 18:35 by a volcano. 18:37 So this situation 18:39 has nothing to do with the book about 18:42 Prabowo, but people keep linking it. 18:46 But remember, Pompeii, Brother Nuim, 18:49 you remember the LGBT event in Pompeii, 18:52 and also references in the Quran about, 18:56 um, well, whatever, what we call LGBTQ 18:59 now or whatever it is. Do you, Brother 19:03 Nuim, see a reflection of the current 19:06 situation? Look at Australia, let alone 19:08 Australia, in Indonesia it's really 19:10 extraordinary now, brother. How do you 19:12 see it, brother? 19:14 Indeed, we know, right. Regarding what 19:18 is always called in Western terms, it's 19:21 known as Sodom and Gomorrah. Yes. It is 19:26 told, right. 19:28 Yes. That is in the time of Prophet Lot 19:30 , right. It is said like that. 19:34 But we also see, if we look at the past 19:36 , people like an extraordinary warrior, 19:39 namely Julius Caesar. 19:41 He always proudly said about himself. I 19:44 am a husband to some men and a wife to 19:47 some men. 19:48 Oh my God. 19:49 Because he had a child named Calpurnia. 19:51 He had a wife named Calpurnia, but he 19:54 could not have children with his wife. 19:57 Uh, but he was also known as gay, right 19:59 , a person who is LGBT. H. 20:01 He said, some even say Alexander the 20:04 Great, not Alexander Zulkarnain. 20:07 Alexander the Great was also someone 20:09 who had a wife named Roxana but also 20:12 had male lovers. Some say he wouldn't 20:16 get angry if his wife was insulted, but 20:18 don't you dare insult his male partner. 20:21 He could kill that person. Ah, that is 20:23 blind love. That's it. So, this 20:26 situation is indeed getting worse. Only 20:29 in this modern era, like in Australia 20:32 and elsewhere, it is recognized. 20:36 Recognized as a distinct group of 20:38 humans, not male, not female, and their 20:40 rights are recognized. 20:42 Their rights cannot be discriminated 20:44 against. So in a book about this issue, 20:47 there is an expert who is a Muslim, a 20:50 Harvard University graduate. He said 20:53 there are things 20:55 in this world, there are evils, there 20:58 are flaws in this world that can only 21:01 be judged by Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala, 21:04 not by humans. So we wait for how it 21:07 happens, whether it will repeat what is 21:09 referred to in the West as Sodom and 21:12 Gomorrah or as the term for the people 21:14 of Prophet Lot. We are waiting for the 21:16 time. 21:17 Yes. Meanwhile, human children are 21:20 facing various problems. There is a 21:23 study from the University of Queensland 21:25 . And Johns Hopkins, in Bloomberg, says 21:29 that research reveals 2.45 million 21:32 teenagers in Indonesia are experiencing 21:35 mental disorders, with anxiety being 21:37 the most dominant. So, what do you, 21:41 Brother Nuim, see for the next 21:43 generation? Some call it the "couch 21:45 potato" generation, others call them by 21:47 all sorts of names. Have you had a 21:49 chance to observe the people who are 21:51 struggling with these millions of 21:53 problems? What do you think, brother? 21:56 Look, 21:58 what young people fear most, 22:02 is the future. 22:04 Oh. 22:05 Without any promise, without any 22:06 agreement about their future, this is 22:08 what terrifies them the most. Hmm. 22:11 Because we already know the past, 22:14 but we don't know the future. The 22:15 Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) 22:17 said, "May your today be better than 22:19 your yesterday, and your tomorrow 22:21 better than your today." If they lack 22:24 that conviction, it certainly leaves 22:27 them anxious because they cannot see a 22:29 future. No matter what the pundits or 22:33 anyone else says, there's no certainty 22:36 about the future. So, we fight for that 22:41 future just as it was done in the past. 22:45 In Islam, we see 22:47 how the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon 22:49 him), an unlettered man, was able to 22:51 build a civilization. This was, among 22:53 other reasons, due to 22:56 the burden placed upon his shoulders by 22:58 Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala, meaning he 23:00 was indeed a chosen person. 23:03 When he was six, his mother said to him 23:05 , "Ya Muhammadu, kun rajulan.""O 23:09 Muhammad, change this world, for it is 23:11 full of injustice and such." And he 23:15 succeeded because he was a messenger of 23:17 God, carrying a mission from Allah 23:19 Subhanahu wa ta'ala. Third, imagine 23:29 that you are the best community on the 23:32 face of this earth. Because you enjoin 23:34 others to do good. Number one. Number 23:37 two is forbidding others from doing 23:38 evil. 23:39 Number three is having faith in Allah. 23:41 Just imagine, look at the order here. 23:53 Yes. 23:53 So, life in this world. If there is a 23:56 leader in Indonesia who dares to say, " 23:58 Don't mix religion with politics." They 24:01 don't understand. This 24:08 is something extraordinary. Enjoining 24:10 people to do good, forbidding them from 24:12 doing evil. And then thirdly, believing 24:16 in Allah. Yes. 24:18 This shows that we must also use the 24:21 world for the hereafter. Not just for 24:24 the hereafter alone. That's not 24:25 possible. Just as the Prophet said when 24:28 he encountered someone who stayed in 24:30 the mosque constantly, praying and 24:31 doing deeds, he asked, "How do you 24:33 provide for yourself?""Oh, I have a 24:36 brother." He said that isn't the way. 24:38 He prays and fasts, but he is not like 24:40 me. He works. The Prophet said that he 24:44 (the brother) is greater in faith than 24:46 you. 24:47 Because we must use both the world and 24:49 the hereafter. As the Malay or 24:51 Minangkabau saying goes: western winds, 24:54 western waves, a boat laden with goods. 24:57 If you want to be saved by God, use 24:59 this world for the sake of the 25:01 hereafter. That is how it should be. 25:03 My goodness, extraordinary. The future 25:05 is indeed something that Mr. Bang Nuim 25:07 also thinks about. Mr. Prabowo, seeing 25:10 so much stunting, created a free 25:12 nutritious meal program that was even 25:15 touted to Russia yesterday, truly 25:16 amazing. But 25:20 how many victims are needed before the 25:22 handbrake must be pulled on this 25:23 program? Perhaps Bang Nuim has been 25:29 observing from there regarding this 25:31 situation, with hundreds of trillions 25:33 of rupiah draining the budget. How does 25:37 Bang Nuim see it? Yes. There is someone 25:40 who made a very interesting analogy. 25:44 This person said, "Have you ever seen 25:46 the kitchens of our restaurants and 25:48 eateries in Indonesia? They are often a 25:52 mess, maybe using firewood and so on." 25:56 They might be able to serve food made 25:58 perhaps two days ago without 26:01 any cooling, without any refrigeration; 26:04 this is what needs to be addressed. So, 26:08 if we look at this, we must say, if we 26:10 really want to help, perhaps look for 26:13 other ways, don't do it entirely this 26:15 way. Because 26:17 there are still people saying, experts, 26:20 philosophers, intellectuals, 26:21 specialists who say 26:24 if you give a person a fish, they eat 26:28 for one day. If you teach them how to 26:32 fish, they eat every day. 26:34 What if, perhaps? Yes, because in 26:36 schools in Australia, and in England 26:38 back then, I remember when I was first 26:40 in England, I was surprised that 26:42 schools fed the children, but nothing 26:45 like what we are experiencing in 26:47 Indonesia happened; the food was indeed 26:49 different. Not many spices, mostly 26:52 sausages, maybe with cheese or 26:54 something like that. But that is also 26:57 an example 26:59 that everything is a result of how we 27:01 educate and build our habits. Practice 27:04 makes perfect. So if children are fed 27:07 bread from a young age, it's easier, 27:09 right? Give them bread with cheese and 27:13 a little tomato, and so on; it lasts 27:15 longer than cooked food. But yes, 27:18 perhaps 27:20 it will reduce some people's income, 27:23 and there might also be unreasonable 27:26 costs like the SPPG and so on. Yes, 27:30 this 27:31 might also require honesty because the 27:33 leaders have been arrested, and another 27:35 leader has surrendered, not daring to 27:37 continue. And now we see the third 27:40 leader, and this is not easy. 27:42 This food matter is not easy. True. 27:44 Especially in Indonesia, where the air 27:46 does not allow for it like it does here 27:48 . Here it is cold, like it is right now 27:50 . Earlier when I left the house, it was 27:52 just 12 degrees. 27:53 Now, returning home, it is only 17, 16 27:56 degrees. So it is cold. Even so, we try 27:59 to store it in a fridge so it doesn't 28:01 go stale quickly. So, think about it; 28:05 don't just teach them to eat rice with 28:07 curry, but how about teaching them to 28:09 eat bread from a young age? Sorry, 28:12 pardon me. When I was small in Medan 28:14 back then, 28:15 rice was a luxury item. 28:18 So we ate more. Back then, we were 28:21 given a bread ration. 28:23 We were given bread, and that's how I 28:25 was raised. If I had to choose now, 28:28 forgive me, between bread and rice, I 28:30 would choose bread. 28:34 It's no problem at all, it's filling, 28:36 God willing it's healthy enough, and it 28:39 can treat or prevent stunting and so on 28:41 . So, please consider it, Mr. Prabowo, 28:44 don't say it's too late, it's fine. 28:47 It's fine, don't say it's too late. A 28:49 smart person is someone who learns from 28:52 experience. 28:52 That is 28:54 if they don't learn from experience, as 28:56 an expert once said, those who forget 28:59 history tend to 29:02 repeat the same mistakes in that 29:05 history. So, do try, it's okay. You 29:08 have good intentions, innamal binat. 29:10 Heh. 29:11 Well, if you look at it that way, try 29:13 teaching these little children starting 29:14 from kindergarten to eat bread, and God 29:15 willing, it can work. God willing, it 29:18 can. 29:19 That is what's important, yes. 29:21 Masyaallah. Ah, Bang Nuim, in this holy 29:25 month, what is your advice as a senior 29:29 citizen who has passed the age of 88? 29:34 It's all a bonus, and your thoughts are 29:36 still sharp, says our listener. Wow, 29:38 how are you, Grandpa? Tengku Sulaiman 29:41 from Batam, right in the middle of his 29:43 stall, said, "Wow, extraordinary. 29:45 Whenever I hear Bang Nuim, I feel young 29:47 again," he said. What do you think, 29:49 Bang? "Masyaallah. There are even 29:51 people who follow Bang Nuim's lifestyle 29:53 now, you know. There's someone over at 29:55 Rasil, across from here. I follow Bang 29:57 Nuim, at 9:00 AM it's all vegetables. 30:00 Ha. What are your thoughts on that, 30:02 Bang Nuim? Fatal, Bang Nuim. Yes, that 30:05 I was once interviewed by someone who 30:08 makes podcasts here. Why 30:11 do I still look like this, masyaallah, 30:13 I said maybe it's because when I was 30:15 little it wasn't very luxurious. What 30:17 do you mean? I couldn't afford a 30:19 motorbike, I just used a bicycle 30:20 everywhere. It turns out that was 30:22 actually healthy for the body 30:24 but also maintaining my diet and drinks 30:26 , getting enough sleep, keeping healthy 30:28 , exercising, and so on. Like I said 30:31 earlier, 30:32 I actually tend to eat bread rather 30:34 than rice. Because, forgive me, 30:37 the Indonesian government, as I recall, 30:39 used to import what is called basmati 30:43 from India, from Pakistan. Why import 30:45 basmati rice? Because it was given to 30:48 people with diabetes. 30:50 Why? Oh, because regular rice has a lot 30:52 of glucose, a lot of sugar content. So, 30:55 to avoid it, you shouldn't eat too much 30:58 rice. And I really like what is said 31:01 about halalan tayyiban. So not just 31:04 halal, but also tayyib—good and 31:06 nutritious. Eat before you are hungry, 31:08 stop before you are full. Ah, that's it 31:10 . And one-third of the stomach should 31:13 be filled with food, one-third with 31:15 water, and one-third with air. So, this 31:17 is what I try to apply, like what was 31:20 said by Mahathir Mohamad 31:21 when, at the age of 93, he was 31:24 re-elected as 31:25 Prime Minister of Malaysia. He said, 31:27 when asked," Why are you so fresh? "Oh, 31:29 because my mother advised me, 31:32 don't overeat, eat in moderation, eat 31:35 before you're hungry, stop before 31:37 you're full. God willing. And eat 31:40 nutritious food, 31:41 halalan thayyiban is very important. 31:44 Halalan thayyiban and not from 31:45 corruption is also important, right, 31:47 Brother? 31:49 Yes, that's right, that's right. So, it 31:51 means happiness. Corruption always 31:53 keeps us restless. We never feel at 31:55 peace. No debt. We only owe a debt of 31:57 gratitude to the Messenger of Allah, 31:58 peace be upon him. We repay it by 32:00 carrying out his commandments. 32:02 Amen. Amen. Extraordinary. Thank you, 32:05 Brother Nuim, for warmly accompanying 32:07 the listeners from Canada for 30 32:09 minutes. Comments are awaited in the 32:11 afternoon there, as it's nearing 32:12 Maghrib in New Zealand too. Mr. Hanhan 32:15 is also in various other places. Oh, it 32:17 appeared in Israel. There's also 32:18 Brother Nuim in Israel. Thank you. See 32:22 you next Monday, God willing. Stay 32:24 healthy always. 32:25 God willing. Amen. Peace be upon you, 32:27 and Allah's mercy and blessings, 32:28 Brother. 32:29 And peace be upon you, and Allah's 32:30 mercy and blessings. 
