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0:28 Oh. Brazil Bismillahirrahmanirrahim. 1:00 Peace be upon you warahmatullahi 1:02 wabarakatuh. And waalaikum 1:03 ikhwan akhwat rahimakumullah. Thank God 1:08 for the mercy, blessings, guidance, and 1:11 blessings of Allah subhanahu wa taala 1:14 so that today we can be together in the 1:18 health room of radio silaturahim which 1:21 hopefully makes us more able to take 1:24 care of ourselves, so that we can 1:26 become truly useful servants of Allah. 1:32 Of course, we also don't forget to 1:34 recite the salawat (praise and 1:35 blessings) to our beloved Prophet 1:37 Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam. 1:41 May we be reunited with him in the 1:44 moments we miss so much. Ikhwan akhwat, 1:48 in this blessed month of Ramadan, we 1:51 also have to maintain our health, right 1:54 ? Eating and not eating all day doesn't 1:57 mean blah blah blah. Yes, the same goes 2:01 for non-physical health. Today we have 2:05 a guest, a doctor who, if you remember, 2:09 has probably never appeared on radio 2:13 silaturahim, and he is Dr. Dr. 2:16 Fidiansyah, SpKJ, MPH. He is currently 2:27 busy at the Marzuki Mahdi Mental 2:30 Hospital in Bogor and he is an alumnus 2:32 of the Faculty of Medicine, University 2:35 of Indonesia (FKUI) and Gadjah Mada 2:37 University (UGM). Let's greet him, are 2:41 you ready for us all? Peace be upon you 2:44 , Doctor. Peace be upon you, Doctor. 2:49 Alhamdulillah, hopefully you won't be 2:51 bored, Rasil's health room. So, the 2:56 relationship between mental health and 2:58 fasting, 3:00 as we have planned, will be the topic 3:03 today. 3:04 Yes. 3:05 Exactly, Doctor. 3:07 Yes. Brothers and sisters, may Allah 3:12 have mercy on them, fasting is 3:14 certainly a form of worship that is 3:16 longed for. Even prayers during the 3:19 months of Rajab and Sha'ban have always 3:22 resonated. 3:25 We hope that our age will finally reach 3:28 its full potential, and when we do, 3:30 these benefits will truly be felt, 3:32 making it impossible for an obligation 3:35 not to be meaningful. It's certainly 3:38 fraught with meaning. And one of the 3:41 conditions for meaning is not only 3:44 fulfilling obligations as part of 3:46 submission to Allah, but also directly 3:48 benefiting human health. So it's not 3:53 surprising that the Prophet Muhammad 3:55 himself said, "Fast. Fast. That will 3:59 certainly have a positive impact on 4:02 your health." He he. 4:05 The problem is, sometimes, this health 4:07 is more focused on the physical. 4:09 Yes. 4:10 Yes, because hunger and thirst are the 4:13 essence of the fasting we are 4:15 experiencing today. Yet, behind that, 4:19 the spiritual side actually has a 4:22 tremendous impact. The mouth symbol is 4:28 two symbols that indicate that fasting 4:30 will indeed have an impact on what 4:33 enters our bodies through the mouth. 4:36 He 4:37 yes. 4:38 And we must also utilize it in matters 4:40 that are studied physically, which is 4:43 no longer unfamiliar. Studies that 4:46 attempt to examine fasting's physical 4:48 benefits have become part of scientific 4:50 literature. Oh, and even if we examine 4:54 it, this wasn't an obligation when the 4:56 Prophet Muhammad delivered his message, 4:58 so it was delivered before the Prophet 5:03 Muhammad. And if we look at the essence 5:07 even further, animals also fast. In 5:10 some episodes, 5:12 a caterpillar fasts in a cocoon to 5:14 become a butterfly. So, when the human 5:18 soul produces the benefits of fasting, 5:22 it's not seen in hunger or thirst, but 5:25 rather in its control. So, the essence 5:28 of fasting is to refrain from imsak ( 5:30 imsak). Restraint doesn't mean eating, 5:34 but rather there is control that also 5:37 affects our emotions. This means that 5:42 fasting reflects emotional control to 5:44 refrain from eating, drinking, and 5:46 sexual relations with our mahrams 5:49 during the agreed-upon times, from 5:51 sahur until iftar. In other words, this 5:56 fast will produce emotional control 5:58 that will later make one adept at 5:59 managing emotions. Because the essence 6:02 of the soul is emotional control. 6:04 Control, rather than control, can 6:07 produce impacts that we certainly don't 6:09 want. Violence begins because emotions 6:12 are out of control. Uncontrollable 6:15 anger. Then there are also impulses 6:19 that don't reflect possession or 6:21 possession, which are more powerful 6:23 than physical possession or possession. 6:27 So this impact will give rise to 6:29 extraordinary danger. Simply put, 6:33 fasting will produce a condition called 6:36 emotional and spiritual intelligence. 6:40 Masyaallah. So, brothers and sisters, 6:42 our discussion today is precisely about 6:44 the relationship between fasting and 6:47 mental health. Fasting as a means to 6:50 improve our mental health. Masyaallah. 6:53 Let's listen with our spiritual ears. 6:55 Please, Doc. 6:56 Yes. Uh, earlier, I mentioned that the 6:59 spiritual ear is extraordinary. There 7:01 are the eyes of the soul, there are the 7:02 ears of the soul, there is the heart of 7:04 the soul, and so on. This means that 7:06 the physical organ is a vessel that 7:11 will manifest the soul. 7:14 I'm interested in the term "ear of the 7:16 soul." Uh, why? Because the ear itself 7:21 is only physical for hearing, but how 7:24 does this ear then use hearing to hear 7:27 what? That's the ear of the soul. 7:29 Yes. If he hears things that shouldn't 7:33 mean his soul is unhealthy. The eyes of 7:35 the soul are the same. Eyes for seeing. 7:37 Right. But when the function of the eye 7:40 is to see what it is for, that is the 7:41 eye of the soul. Do you see what is 7:44 appropriate and what is not appropriate 7:45 ? The hand is used for writing, good 7:48 writing or e. So in other words, in all 7:51 our physical components there is a soul 7:53 , yes, which influences it to 7:56 manifest its function. If this function 8:00 is then carried out to carry out what 8:02 is ordered and do it, that is what is 8:04 said to be a healthy soul. But if this 8:08 soul then controls its physical body 8:10 for things that are prohibited, then it 8:12 is said that its soul is unhealthy. 8:15 And indeed, the essence of fasting for 8:18 the soul is controlling what is called 8:21 emotion, which has an impact on the 8:24 maturity of controlling one's behavior. 8:27 So, what are the other benefits in the 8:29 context of the soul? He will direct 8:31 those functions, okay? 8:34 Say he is entrusted with property, then 8:36 the function of the soul is that the 8:38 property is given zakat, donated and 8:39 given to charity. He has knowledge, he 8:43 donates his knowledge and knowledge to 8:45 provide benefits. He has whatever is 8:49 entrusted to his body, then he always 8:51 hands it over as a gift which is said 8:54 to be khairunas anfahum linas. as good 8:56 as a useful human being. So, he 8:58 surrenders all of those physical 8:59 components under the influence of his 9:02 soul to provide benefits, spread zakat, 9:04 infaq, charity, and so on. Those are 9:06 the aspects that we can perhaps see how 9:08 scattered people's enthusiasm for zakat 9:10 and infaq is now because their souls 9:12 direct their wealth to be distributed 9:14 to good channels. 9:17 Yes. And fasting, Doc, yes, that 9:21 certainly leads to things that truly 9:24 nourish our souls. There's still much 9:27 more we can explore. Continue, Doc. 9:29 What a fun discussion today. 9:32 Yes, because it started with the terms 9:34 "ear of the soul,""eye of the soul." 9:36 That's why I was interested earlier, uh 9:39 , human indifference or lack of 9:42 attention to the spiritual aspect, Miss 9:45 . 9:45 Yes. When people talk about hunger and 9:47 thirst, it's as if physical needs. In 9:50 fact, what is eaten, how it is obtained 9:53 , is a function of the soul. Obtaining 9:57 it was mentioned earlier through 9:59 improper means. For example, corruption 10:02 , yes, 10:03 wealth, yes, income is large. 10:06 But if it is obtained through 10:07 corruption, it will not pollute the 10:09 soul into something that is ultimately 10:11 carried away. That's why in the letter 10:14 As-Yams it is very clear, wafsin wa 10:17 sawaha faalhamaha fujuroha wa taqwaha 10:19 qod aflaha man zakaha waqoba manasaha 10:21 for the sake of the soul and the 10:23 process of growth and development of 10:25 the soul grows and develops also like 10:28 the eyes, ears, physical body that 10:30 grows and develops. Then Allah said, "I 10:32 inspire this soul to always have two 10:35 choices. If he purifies his soul, he 10:39 will be a lucky person. But if his soul 10:41 is polluted, he will be a loser. This 10:44 means that 10:44 there is also food for the soul to 10:46 consume. He. If he fills it with souls, 10:48 with consumption that is also healthy 10:50 in vitamin and nutritional value, then 10:52 it is clear that the soul is healthy. 10:54 So talking about fasting earlier, what 10:56 is actually presented is if there is 10:58 kolak, there is coffee with milk, do we 11:00 want to drink it, sir? No, we give it 11:02 halal drinks. In fact, what we are 11:05 constraining is not what is haram, not 11:07 pork, not alcohol, but food and 11:09 everything that is then served 11:11 is halal. Because we dare to try to 11:15 make this urge ours to control, then 11:18 even the halal ones we don't 11:20 immediately take. 11:23 In other words, there is a command that 11:25 teaches, eh, you have to control your 11:26 emotions. 1 month in 1 year you have to 11:30 control it. If it is outside the month 11:32 of Ramadan, we might be free of the 11:34 consequences. Then, the conditions of 11:36 people who are not trained do not 11:37 continue the fast with Mondays and 11:39 Thursdays, fasting ee in the middle of 11:40 the month and so on. But for people 11:43 trained in Ramadan, it should be 11:44 continue because it can be done in a 11:46 month, it should be able to increase 11:48 again with Mondays and Thursdays in the 11:50 month of Ramadan, something like that. 11:52 So, emotional control must continue, 11:54 not only in the month of Ramadan, where 11:56 the month of Ramadan is just a forging, 11:58 the training process should be the 11:59 fruit of fasting, 12:01 emotional control, emotional 12:02 intelligence continues. Simple research 12:05 , you know, Miss. When researching 12:07 emotional action, the 12:08 research only used candy. Kindergarten 12:12 children when offered a candy in a 12:15 simulation, ee, your children, I give 12:18 you the candy on this table, you can 12:21 take it. If you then take it now, you 12:25 can only take one. But if later the 12:28 teacher goes out for a moment to get 12:30 out of the classroom, wait for the 12:31 teacher to come out in 15 minutes. For 12:33 those who wait 15 minutes for the 12:35 teacher to come, they get two. 12:36 Wow. 12:37 Perlita simply described 80%of 12:39 kindergarten children immediately took 12:41 it at that time, Miss. 12:44 Meaning 80%only took one. He. 12:46 Because they were worried," Maybe you 12:48 won't come back, Miss. Maybe the candy 12:50 will run out. I won't get a chance to 12:52 take it now. "So that's what is said 12:54 about the urge to satisfy direct 12:56 pleasure or immediate pleasure being 12:59 faster. The research doesn't stop there 13:02 , Miss. Only 20%of those who understood 13:04 the command got 2 candies just by 13:06 waiting 15 minutes. So the teacher came 13:09 , only 20%of those who finally dared to 13:11 take the opportunity to get two candies 13:13 . But this research doesn't stop there, 13:16 Sir. It turns out that 80%of the people 13:19 who took them at that time after 10-19 13:21 years, which were studied again, turned 13:24 out to be children who didn't control 13:26 their emotions. H 13:28 kindergarten children who 20%took Candy 13:30 2 because they understood that just 13:33 delaying 15 minutes to get a higher 13:35 grade turned out to be successful 13:37 people who could control their emotions 13:39 . Amazing. So, that's what fasting is, 13:42 never mind just 15 minutes, the candy 13:44 is the prize, right? Gufir lahu ma 13:47 taqodama min zanbih is the prize. His 13:49 sins are forgiven so that he will be 13:52 pure again later when Eid al-Fitr 13:54 reaches victory. That is the essence 13:57 that should have been attached to 13:58 self-control. Certainly He will set 14:01 aside and select his food, select where 14:03 his wealth comes from, select what his 14:05 mouth says, select what his eyes see 14:10 for what, select what his ears hear for 14:13 what. Tadarus is like a rasil that is 14:16 always enlivened. ee the tausiahs that 14:20 are invited, not to mention the spread 14:22 of Ramadan sermons ee lectures Dhuhur. 14:25 Wow, that's very rich, huh. And this is 14:27 what produces the result, that's why it 14:28 was said that Satan is chained, right? 14:31 So, really, ee enthusiasm to increase 14:33 Ramadan's practice is opened as widely 14:36 as possible. Now, it just remains to 14:38 see whether the essence of human 14:39 emotions is formed or not. Hopefully, 14:41 the 8 days we've been through have 14:43 formed that, Miss. 14:45 Especially if it lasts a month. 14:46 Especially if it lasts a month. So of 14:48 course it has stuck, it has become a 14:50 rust of good habits 14:52 and could possibly make the next month 14:55 after Ramadan progress also increase, 14:58 right, Doc? 14:58 Yes. That's why he said Eid al-Fitr won 15:02 . Why won? Because he succeeded. 15:05 Therefore, this is an interesting 15:07 phenomenon, Miss, that we must be aware 15:09 of. The 15:09 mosque was full to the brim. The first 15:11 10 days are still full, Miss. Even 15:13 putting up a tent because it doesn't 15:15 fit in the first mosque. But then the 15:18 last 10 days the tent will be opened 15:20 again. 15:21 Again, those who fill the rows are only 15:23 like on the first day. Even though the 15:25 last 10 days are Lailatul Qadr Khairum 15:27 min Alfi. Forgot that. So the relay 15:30 participants have fallen in the first 15:33 stages. Forgot the finish even though 15:35 it's Eid al-Fitr with Lailatul Qadr. 15:39 Fasting makes us hold back, postpone 15:43 whatever we want. Related to if we want 15:48 to be healthy mentally, not just 15:51 physically, usually there is a 15:53 connection with emotions, right, Doc. 15:56 With stress. 15:58 How is fasting related to stress? Well, 16:01 here it is. People often misunderstand 16:04 stress because they are often asked," 16:06 Hey, are you stressed? "No, I'm not 16:08 stressed." 16:09 Heh. 16:10 In fact, stress is a way to assess 16:14 someone's ability to adapt. This means 16:18 that stress in life is inevitable, 16:21 heh, 16:21 certainty, and necessity. And we can 16:24 refer to that in Surah Albaqarah 155, 16:27 156. Wabluwanakum bisyaaiin minal khauf 16:30 . And surely I will try, Allah said 16:33 with stress. What is the stress? With 16:36 fear. Minal ju hunger amwal anfus. Even 16:40 lack of wealth, hunger and so on. 16:43 Wabasyirin. Give good news to people 16:46 who have successfully adapted to stress 16:48 because they are patient. 16:50 Heh. 16:50 So stress is a way to increase patience 16:53 . As long as we live, we are never free 16:56 from stress. So what is wrong is the 16:59 understanding of stress. So there is 17:01 stress called positive stress, there is 17:03 negative stress. 17:04 Heh. 17:05 So stress does not always cause 17:07 negative stress. If he is tested and 17:09 then he is patient, then it is called 17:10 positive stress. If he is tested and 17:12 then his emotions are uncontrolled, 17:14 that is negative stress. It is called 17:16 distress in terms of psychology, it is 17:19 called eu stress or normo stress 17:21 because it produces a positive impact 17:23 for people facing stress. So in other 17:27 words, fasting with emotional food, 17:28 that's 17:30 right, he must be trained to control 17:32 Stress. 17:33 Well, this is interesting, Miss, 17:35 because today is the day to commemorate 17:38 a condition called bipolar. Oh yeah, 17:45 today is International Bipolar Day, Doc 17:47 . That's 17:48 it. Why is it called bipolar, Miss? 17:50 Because the poles of emotion are 17:52 like two poles that are always in 17:55 imbalance. That's why it's called B dua 17:57 . 17:58 He. 17:58 Polar is a pole, right? So sometimes 18:01 you're overly happy, your emotions are 18:04 excessive, you talk a lot, your ideas 18:06 are brilliant. But then the lower pole 18:10 appears, which is called depression, 18:12 wow, you don't want to do anything. If 18:15 you're just asked to stay in your room, 18:16 there's no initiative or desire to do 18:18 anything, so it's called manic and 18:19 depressive. 18:21 Bipolar is a term that reminds humans. 18:24 The question earlier, let's control our 18:26 emotions, stay cool, stay stable, stay 18:29 in a balanced state. It's okay to be 18:31 happy, but in moderation. It's okay to 18:34 be 18:34 sad, it's okay to cry, it's okay to 18:37 vent, but don't overdo it. The right 18:40 amount. That's the 18:41 measure; fasting relies on that 18:43 12 to 14 hours a day and a whole month 18:46 of training how to handle stress. 18:49 Tempered and ultimately emotional, his 18:51 spirituality becomes primed. Not 18:53 impulsive, explosive, yes. 18:55 Not impulsive and explosive. 18:57 Extraordinary. So restraining oneself 19:00 by refraining from eating means 19:02 restraining other desires, the effect 19:04 is extraordinary. 19:05 Extraordinary. Because it's linear, it 19:08 becomes something that will train him 19:10 to produce that. Just what I said 19:13 earlier, interestingly, when breaking 19:15 the fast, Miss, there's kolak, there's 19:17 iced fruit, there's fried food, the 19:19 desire 19:20 reappears. Be careful, that's why. So 19:22 starting with something sweet, 19:24 gradually, the engine. So, this month 19:27 of training trains behavior, Sir. 19:30 If we go back to earlier, when breaking 19:33 the fast, one table becomes an 19:35 extraordinary thing, also as a 12-hour 19:37 redemption. Be careful, the meaning of 19:41 fasting also needs to be corrected. 19:44 Something like that. What's 19:45 clear is that the doctor said to 19:47 restrain oneself is enough with water. 19:49 Clear water, yes. With dates first, 19:53 then finish with the other things. 19:55 Well, that's something like that, Doc. 19:57 If we, for example, go straight to the 19:59 question that happened to come up, 20:00 that's fine, yes. 20:01 Ah, with pleasure, 20:02 maybe we can get it while we're walking 20:04 . Added. This is from 20:08 Andra Ilham. I have a question about 20:12 the difference between delusions and 20:14 hallucinations. I often experience a 20:18 state where I imagine something that 20:21 doesn't actually exist. I also often 20:24 make up stories and construct my life 20:27 narrative. I often talk to myself as if 20:30 I have someone talking in front of me. 20:33 I've been experiencing this for several 20:35 years, Doctor. What am I experiencing, 20:38 Doctor? Hallucinations, delusions? 20:42 Thank you. That's 20:43 extraordinary, Andra. You've started to 20:47 highlight a mental condition that we 20:50 call manifest. You mentioned two terms 20:53 earlier: 20:54 delusion and hallucination. 20:57 There's another term, illusion, Miss. 20:59 So, 21:00 delusion, hallucination, and illusion. 21:02 Yes, 21:03 those are three terms that are actually 21:05 almost close together if you're not 21:06 careful, yes. But they are very 21:08 different, yes. If delusion is in the 21:12 mind component. So, the mind has three 21:17 main components: 21:18 thoughts, feelings, and behavior. Now, 21:23 if it's called delusion or the 21:25 Indonesian term waham, then there are 21:28 delusions of grandeur, and 21:29 there are delusions of suspicion. Yes, 21:32 it means the content of the mind is 21:34 dominated by only one context. So, the 21:38 content of the mind if suspicious is 21:39 jealousy. Well, that's called a 21:41 delusion. A 21:42 delusion of suspicion. If the delusion 21:45 is of helplessness, the inevitability 21:48 of poverty, a nihilistic delusion. A 21:52 delusion that tries to make oneself 21:54 something meaningless. But there are 21:55 also delusions of grandeur, sir. 21:57 He. 21:57 I am God. I am the messenger who will 22:01 secure the world. Well, the reality 22:03 doesn't appear to be what was believed 22:05 earlier. So, the core of Andra's 22:09 delusion is focused on the content of 22:12 his thoughts. His thoughts are 22:15 dominated by a condition that is not 22:18 appropriate. He feels like a king, 22:21 feels like a great man, feels like a 22:23 prophet. But in reality, it's not like 22:26 that. 22:26 So it's called a delusion of grandeur 22:29 or a delusion of grandeur. How does he 22:31 experience a condition of grandeur from 22:34 the content of his thoughts that 22:36 doesn't match reality, Miss? 22:38 Yes. 22:38 Yes, that's the point. So, the content 22:41 of his thoughts doesn't match reality, 22:44 the reality presented and the content 22:46 conveyed don't match. So it's called a 22:51 delusion of belief. It can't be denied, 22:53 sir. Even with logic, with 22:56 justification, with other information, 22:58 The data we want to provide is that 23:01 it's not impossible. He believes that 23:04 he is God, he is a prophet, he is an 23:07 apostle, and so on. If it's a 23:10 hallucination, the error lies in his 23:14 perception. So, it's in his senses, not 23:19 in his thoughts. We have five senses, 23:21 right? Some see, some hear, some touch, 23:25 some smell, and so on. Now, when we 23:28 receive something through these senses, 23:31 then we respond. 23:33 Heh. 23:34 We see, yes, there is something, and 23:36 then we respond, right? Whether it's 23:38 fear, happiness, which causes us to 23:40 respond to what we see. Now, in a 23:43 hallucination, what Indra receives is 23:46 not there, Miss. 23:48 Hm. Heh. 23:49 So, he feels like he sees something, 23:50 but what he sees is not there. He feels 23:53 like he hears something, but what he is 23:55 actually hearing is not there. He 23:57 smells something, but in reality, there 23:59 is nothing to smell. Now, that's called 24:03 perception, which arises from a 24:05 sensation he feels from his senses that 24:07 doesn't match reality. If earlier his 24:12 mind was delusional, then his 24:13 perception is in a hallucination. So, 24:15 he hears something that isn't there. So 24:18 someone else They're both sitting like 24:21 this, but they hear the police, someone 24:24 is going to arrest them, or they see 24:26 something dangerous, and so on. There 24:30 aren't any other people there at the 24:32 same time. That's called a 24:34 hallucination. 24:35 People call it a hallucination. 24:38 Well, another illusion, sir. An 24:41 illusion is something that actually has 24:44 a response. Something is seen, but it's 24:48 wrong. For example, this is a path in a 24:50 cemetery, sir, it's 24:51 dark. 24:53 Suddenly, there's a jackfruit tree, and 24:55 it's wrapped in jackfruit. Then there's 24:58 a gust of wind, and the jackfruit moves 25:01 . Wow, it's considered a nuntilanak. 25:03 Well, that's called an illusion. So 25:05 there's a stimulus first, but the 25:07 stimulus received by the senses is 25:09 wrong. That's why it's called an 25:11 illusion. Well, it's used for magic. 25:13 That's why it's called an illusionist. 25:14 David Coverfield and others use 25:16 techniques from the 25:18 human eye, where the human ear is 25:20 diverted by technology so that they see 25:23 what they can't see. Yes, the hotel 25:26 lifting, and so on, this ship, that's 25:29 called an illusion technique. So, 25:32 that's the difference that you might 25:34 try to pinpoint later. Is what we mean 25:37 by hearing different from what we mean 25:40 when we write? Miss, right? That's also 25:43 how the heart moves. 25:44 Right. 25:45 Well, when writing, the heart's not 25:47 called hallucination, but our dialogue 25:49 when we're going to string together 25:51 sentences and then we speak, ee this, 25:53 ee oh yeah like that. Ah, that's called 25:55 the heart. 25:56 So, Andra, when he's like that, it's 25:57 okay, right? 25:58 No problem. Because he's trying to 26:01 express a dialogue that is truly 26:02 purposeful towards something that is 26:04 being done. If it's subtle, no. He 26:09 really speaks, hears, sees something 26:11 that is not and does not mean something 26:13 that is purposeful. He. 26:15 As a result, what happens is that other 26:17 people see him as autistic. Wow, 26:18 preoccupied with his own world. 26:21 Okay, let's move on to Lia's question. 26:25 Miss Lia, hello Doc. I want to ask, can 26:28 people with mental disorders like 26:33 bipolar or schizophrenia be cured, Doc? 26:36 Can they stop taking medication or do 26:38 they have to keep taking medication? 26:40 Please explain. Thank you, 26:42 Miss. This is extraordinary. Trying to 26:44 raise the question of whether this can 26:46 be cured. Well, the first thing is to 26:50 believe that every disease can be cured 26:53 . That's the belief that God gives. He, 26:55 yes. Every There's an answer to every 26:58 test, and there's a solution to every 27:01 question. That's the key. So, God says 27:03 I've already sent down a cure for every 27:05 illness. So, in other words, the 27:08 question is clear. It's possible, it's 27:10 absolutely possible, but of course it 27:11 has to be done by an expert. So, there 27:14 are techniques for treating someone 27:16 with a mental disorder. 27:18 There are levels to it. Simply talking 27:22 to them, sharing your feelings, and 27:25 giving them the opportunity to share is 27:27 enough. But, for some, even after 27:32 trying that approach, there's no change 27:35 . The neurotransmitters in their brain, 27:38 the chemicals in their brain, are no 27:40 longer stable. As a result, they can't 27:43 sleep. They said earlier about bipolar 27:46 disorder, there are so many ideas they 27:47 can't control. 27:49 Sometimes they cry excessively, they 27:51 can't control it. Well, in this 27:54 condition, there's neurotransmitter 27:56 instability. Just talking to them isn't 27:59 enough. In certain conditions, they 28:01 even need to be given medication called 28:03 pharmacotherapy. Well, the rest is even 28:06 more powerful, sir. 28:07 He. 28:08 Our bodies have electricity. 28:09 Yes. 28:10 That's why when someone has heart 28:11 disease, a cardiologist...said, "Oh, 28:13 I'm EKG music." What is an EKG? 28:15 Electrocardiograph. A picture of the 28:18 electrical condition of the heart. In 28:20 humans, it is also in the brain. 28:23 So, an electroencephalograph is the 28:24 brain's electricity. Well, there are 28:26 mental disorders that are very severe, 28:28 Miss. Pharmacotherapy doesn't work. 28:31 Psychotherapy doesn't change either. So 28:32 we give them electric shocks. To that 28:35 point. So, what is meant by healing is 28:38 trying to recover the disorder 28:40 depending on the gradation and level. 28:43 Some people are sufficient with talking 28:44 , with behavioral changes, with changes 28:46 in the way they think, and that's it. 28:48 But when it has rusted and affected the 28:50 neurochemistry in the brain, 28:52 pharmacotherapy is needed. 28:54 If it has affected the electrical 28:55 function, it must be electroshock 28:57 therapy, it must be transmagnetic 28:59 stimulation. So, there are many tools 29:01 that also have an impact on electrical 29:03 changes in the brain that must be with 29:05 the appropriate technology. So, the 29:09 healing approach is very case-by-case. 29:12 Okay, let's move on to Mr. Jaka Albadri 29:14 . Good afternoon, Doctor. May I ask a 29:17 question? Treating or preventing people 29:21 whose mental health is disturbed by 29:24 pornography. How is that, Doctor? The 29:27 treatment is the same as treating 29:30 patients. Are you addicted to your cell 29:32 phone, 29:34 Sandra? Yes. 29:35 Hey, 29:37 my name is Jaka. 29:38 Jaka Albadri. 29:40 I, Mr. Jaka, this is raising a topic 29:43 that is often overlooked. That 29:47 technological advancements in the 29:49 millennial world, in the world of 29:51 Generation Z, Generation Alpha, include 29:54 an addiction called "jadzet." 29:56 Hehe. 29:57 Internet addiction, an addiction that 29:59 doesn't require material things like 30:01 narcotics and psychotropics. It's 30:03 obviously difficult to find because 30:04 it's illegal. If there's no network or 30:07 data quota, then the potential for this 30:10 addiction will increase. Especially now 30:13 that we know about COVID, 30:15 kindergarteners, elementary school 30:16 students, junior high school students, 30:17 and high school students are all online 30:19 . 30:19 What are the consequences? They use the 30:21 learning method. Behind that, there's 30:25 the side of giving time to play games. 30:28 Yes. 30:28 That's why it's a game addiction. So, 30:31 Mr. Candra, pornography and 30:33 pornographic action are in the palm of 30:35 people's hands, which they don't ask 30:38 for. Sometimes advertisements and 30:41 glimpses of films that show sexual 30:44 urges appear. What are the consequences 30:47 , Mr. Jaka said? It's true that this is 30:49 more devastating than drug addiction. 30:52 psychotropic drugs because, uh, they're 30:54 invisible. The source of the addiction 30:56 is the network. Then the brain's 30:58 contents are exposed to the pleasure 31:00 center. So the amygdala, as a sensor 31:03 for filtering, becomes disturbed. 31:06 What's important is a feeling of 31:07 pleasure, a desire to repeat it, and so 31:08 on. So treatment also really depends on 31:11 the level, Mas Jaka. 31:13 If the level was at the initial level, 31:15 where we know that the quota is running 31:17 out and suddenly throws a tantrum, my 31:19 mom ran out of quota with all sorts of 31:21 complaints until she finally didn't 31:23 want to study. Maybe it's just simple 31:26 things. But if it gets to the point of 31:29 hiding in a corner of the room, not 31:31 wanting to leave the room, not wanting 31:33 to study, staying up late because the 31:35 network is the best, the fastest, then 31:37 playing games, even games with 31:38 connotations that are inserted with 31:40 pornography and porn action. So, the 31:43 treatment is similar to the process of 31:45 narcotic psychotics, called 31:46 detoxification. Huh, 31:48 yeah. In detoxification, if the brain 31:50 is disturbed, it must be eliminated. So 31:53 , uh, if narcotics are kept away from 31:55 narcotics, this is the same as being 31:56 kept away from the network. 31:57 Huh. 31:59 He must not be exposed First, with the 32:01 networks and the 32:02 pornographic-pornographic series that 32:04 have tried to exploit themselves. Then, 32:07 gradually, we'll learn how to use the 32:10 network wisely. There's a time, a 32:13 substance, and a content. So, gradually 32:17 , it's not the network that's wrong, 32:19 but how we use the network to search 32:21 for information and all sorts of things 32:24 in an unwise way. So, it's called using 32:27 the internet wisely, and that requires 32:30 collaboration with parents and the 32:32 network. So, we agree that if parents 32:34 say, "Okay, we'll turn it off at 9:00, 32:36 then everything will be turned off."" 32:38 That's about it. Come on, mealtime, 32:40 mealtime. Put your cell phone down. 32:42 Don't be busy at the same table, but 32:44 keep your cell phone far away. The 32:46 person over there is close, but don't 32:47 talk to the person in front of us at 32:49 the same table. Those are the 32:51 techniques that Mas Jaka, we might have 32:53 to adapt. Uh, and at the level I 32:55 mentioned earlier, it needs treatment, 32:57 just like narcotics. If the environment 32:59 is so difficult for us to control, then 33:01 it needs treatment. He needs to be 33:04 detoxified in the context of not 33:05 chemical detoxification because there 33:07 were narcotics, but detoxification of 33:09 the contents of his mind that have been 33:10 affected. Then we train his behavior 33:14 until it finally makes a new habit. 33:17 That's roughly the method that we have 33:20 to do gradually, called sensitization 33:22 detoxification. 33:24 Yes. There are quite a lot of questions 33:28 related to mental difficulties, Doc. 33:34 Among those who are listening, even 33:36 though they don't feel like they have 33:38 mental disorders, why do they seem like 33:40 that? It seems like they are all like 33:44 this. Emm, Mr. Okta, Okta, Emas or 33:50 Bapak, 33:51 Doc, I have a question. I have a 33:53 brother who takes medication from a 33:56 mental health clinic. He's often 33:59 confused, anxious, and finds it very 34:01 difficult to calm down. What is this, 34:05 Doc? Is this a side effect of the 34:07 medication he's taking? As his brother, 34:10 I'm just confused. Okay. Okay. Yes, of 34:14 course, we have to pay attention. I 34:18 said earlier that every symptom, 34:21 every sign we get will impact the 34:24 determination of the type of medication 34:26 to be prescribed. So if you say you're 34:30 still confused, still confused, then we 34:32 have to correct it. It means there's 34:34 still something wrong with the therapy. 34:37 So, the opportunity to try and provide 34:39 feedback on the process is important, 34:41 Sir. Because automatically, doctors 34:45 can't always miss everything in trying 34:47 to identify symptoms, so when providing 34:49 therapy, mistakes can happen. Not to 34:52 mention there are compatibility and 34:53 incompatibility. 34:54 Heh. 34:55 So, some people are suited to type A, 34:58 not B. Well, it takes time, it can't be 35:01 found immediately. So, it's important 35:04 to establish a relationship where we 35:05 provide feedback to each other," Doc, 35:07 I've been taking the doctor's 35:08 medication with the method and 35:09 frequency specified, but why are the 35:11 signs and symptoms still there? That 35:13 will be...The doctor's evaluation 35:15 will reveal other variations that need 35:18 to be adjusted. So, every therapist 35:21 records side effects, contraindications 35:24 , and therapy targets for evaluation. 35:28 If it's already good, they lower it, 35:29 and then the sales process is carried 35:31 out. Once it's good, they lower it 35:33 again until the process is minimal. On 35:36 the other hand, oh no, no, no, the 35:38 therapy target can be increased in 35:39 dosage or the type of drug switched. 35:42 So, please consult with the mental 35:44 health clinic because the preparation 35:47 or type of chemical needed for the 35:49 symptoms is not yet suitable. 35:51 Yes. 35:51 Yes. The 35:52 body's response is different for each 35:54 person. That's right. Okay, now let's 35:57 move on to Mr. Arman Maulana. Doctor, 36:00 good afternoon. My question is, I'm 24 36:04 years old, Doctor. Can people with 36:08 schizophrenia be cured by watching 36:10 horror films? Yes, because they 36:13 experience excessive hallucinations and 36:16 perceptions. It's said that watching 36:19 these films can increase the hormones 36:21 dopamine and serotonin. Oh, please give 36:24 me some guidance. 36:25 Yes. Let's try to examine the term " 36:29 shizo" first. 36:32 Schizophrenia is a mental breakdown. I 36:35 mentioned earlier that there are three 36:37 main components of the psyche: thoughts 36:38 , feelings, and behavior. It's called a 36:41 mental breakdown because the three 36:42 components are out of sync. Feelings of 36:45 joy, laughing to yourself, but not 36:47 really laughing about anything. 36:48 Something like that. They cry to 36:50 themselves or think about ideas like 36:53 delusions, and so on. That's what's 36:55 called a mental breakdown in 36:56 schizophrenia. So, what I asked earlier 37:00 was whether watching horror films can 37:02 be treated because it will produce 37:04 alertness, tension, and so on. Of 37:08 course, the mechanism isn't simple. 37:11 Because schizophrenia isn't just a 37:13 mental breakdown; there are components 37:17 linked to a lack of understanding of 37:19 serotonin and dopamine, which are 37:21 simply stimulated by watching horror 37:23 films. But there are other mechanisms 37:26 in interactions. For example, 37:29 interactions with family relationships, 37:31 work relationships, and social 37:33 relationships are also inseparable. So, 37:37 it's not simply a simple lack of 37:39 dopamine, so it's stimulated with 37:41 mindfulness techniques. Watching a 37:44 scary horror film ultimately stimulates 37:46 all the components that were previously 37:47 given chemical substances. It's not 37:49 that simple. Well, hopefully, the 37:52 assessment of advantages remains in the 37:54 context of ee, the IT era, where we can 37:56 easily access information, Miss. 37:58 Yes. 37:58 Right? Oh, there's a lack of serotonin, 38:00 a lack of dopamine. Oh, on the one hand 38:02 , it's heard that watching is 38:03 stimulating. So, in the end, cococology 38:07 , ee, matches one piece of information 38:09 to another as if it were a mechanism. 38:12 Oh, because there's a lack of dopamine, 38:14 a lack of serotonin. On the one hand, 38:15 when watching horror, it automatically 38:17 stimulates something balanced. Not so. 38:20 Uh, the cococology way of thinking in 38:22 the context of ee schizophrenia isn't 38:23 that simple. Because there are many 38:26 other factors, known as vulnerability 38:28 theory. Schizophrenia occurs not only 38:30 because of chemical factors, but also 38:31 because of external factors, biological 38:33 factors that are interconnected and can 38:35 be countered. It would be more 38:37 appropriate to consult an expert. So, 38:41 the need for serotonin and dopamine, 38:43 engineered through the approach of 38:44 watching films, ee, isn't that simple, 38:46 it will cure. But in principle, what 38:49 schizophrenia experiences can be cured. 38:51 Yes. I 38:52 clearly cococology is important. Okay, 38:55 next from Nah, this might also be for 38:57 those of you who are following the 38:59 others. Umu, Ummu Immah asked, "Can 39:03 people who are addicted to cigarettes 39:06 be cured?" I'm really annoyed with my 39:09 husband who really likes to smoke, " 39:11 Darling, thank you, Doc, 39:14 Ummu Imah. The phenomenon of fasting 39:16 teaches that fasting can cleanse 39:18 cigarettes." Right? when he intends. 39:24 Then since sahur earlier, he intended 39:26 not to fast, not to fast. Then 39:28 cigarettes are one of the things he 39:29 holds back. 39:30 He 39:30 can until sunset. 39:32 Why not tomorrow? 39:33 Why? Have you finished throwing them 39:34 away? That means he can. It just 39:36 depends on whether there is will or not 39:37 ? So Ummu Imah, the process of smoking 39:39 is more about will, right? It's not 39:42 that there is nicotine and all the 39:44 effects that cause dependency. But if 39:46 it is said that it is possible to 39:48 control fasting technology, it requires 39:50 will. Huh. Oh, there's no inspiration 39:53 if you don't fast. Blunt. Ah, 12 hours 39:56 is possible. It's proven from from 39:59 sahur earlier until I want to break my 40:01 fast, I can. So the problem is not 40:03 continuing to consistently persist, 40:05 that actually it is possible as long as 40:08 there is a will and there is a 40:09 mechanism that he can try to go through 40:11 . So in other words, the method that 40:14 has been done during the fasting month 40:17 has been very proven because it is very 40:19 strong, determination, motive, and 40:22 intention. 40:23 If that is already there, God willing, 40:25 then the next step can be maintained. 40:28 So, oh addicts, with fasting, God 40:31 willing, it will be possible to control 40:34 it, even if it is gradual. 40:36 Yes. 40:37 Okay, still with Dr. Dr. Fidiansyah, 40:40 SpKJ. , MPH who is on duty at the 40:43 Marzuki Mahdi Mental Hospital in Bogor. 40:46 Yes, let's continue, Doctor. On to the 40:48 next question from Ms. Indah. He. 40:50 Assalamualaikum, Doctor. 40:52 Waalaikumsalam. 40:53 I have a phobia of heights. In my 40:56 understanding, is there something wrong 40:59 with my brain or my psyche? How can I 41:02 be 41:03 afraid of heights? 41:06 This phobia is very interesting, Sir. 41:08 Because the fear can be various. For 41:12 example, heights. 41:14 I have a rubber band, Miss, friend. 41:17 Rubber band. 41:18 Fear. 41:18 Fear. Cockroach. 41:20 Cockroach. So, talking about phobias, 41:24 it's true that it's very subjective and 41:26 very individual. There are heights, 41:28 there are rubber bands, there is 41:30 darkness, there are crowds, and so on. 41:32 He. 41:33 Well, what happens is certainly a 41:35 process of habituation. So, what is 41:38 experienced must have been something 41:40 that has been experienced through the 41:42 habituation process. Heights create a 41:45 record of fear, discomfort. Seeing 41:48 rubber is the same thing. The mechanism 41:51 of phobia begins with a sensation felt 41:54 from the source that is indeed painful 41:56 and frightening. Over time, it becomes 42:00 a pattern, eventually, it becomes a 42:02 character, so that it becomes a pattern 42:05 . Basically, if you always get scared 42:06 of heights, if you see cockroaches, you 42:08 get scared, if you see rubber, you get 42:09 scared. So, of course, this is a 42:11 habituation process and sometimes it's 42:14 not a problem because it can be avoided 42:16 , right? Because to not climb high, if 42:18 you're afraid of rubber, don't touch it 42:20 . In fact, you have to 42:21 avoid 42:22 it, because that's the easiest, right? 42:24 Because the source is clear, he knows, 42:25 so all that's left is "I don't do 42:27 anything." Well, the problem is that 42:29 when it does have to be faced, what 42:31 happens is they panic, palpitations, 42:33 racing heart, shortness of breath, and 42:35 even shock. Because trauma is something 42:39 that has a physiological impact, making 42:41 them helpless, resulting in fainting 42:42 and so on. That's what we certainly 42:45 don't want, right? When the source 42:47 can't be avoided. 42:49 When the diary can be finished. Because 42:51 the mechanism is the same as before, 42:53 there's a process called 42:54 desensitization. There's a process we 42:57 can teach to start with stages, sir. So 43:01 , if you want and are willing to 43:03 undergo the therapy process, you can 43:05 use many mechanisms, such as CBT, 43:07 cognitive biotherapy, hypnotherapy, 43:09 various techniques, depending on the 43:11 indications and suitability of each 43:13 person. But when it's comfortable and 43:16 they can avoid it, they end up not 43:17 wanting to fly. If they go anywhere by 43:20 car because they're afraid of heights, 43:23 the problem 43:24 is solved, right? They're fine, uh, no 43:27 need for...no need for treatment. 43:29 Because many things don't need to 43:31 involve heights. If the problem is 43:33 later on work, right, suddenly on the 43:35 7th floor, so I work, ask for the first 43:37 floor, something like that. So it can 43:40 still be...like that, it has to be 43:41 faced. 43:42 If you want to experience peace, it can 43:45 be done, it's called modification, 43:47 modification, compromise. Wow, that's 43:49 basically it. 43:51 Okay, Doc. Let's continue the question 43:57 from Mr. Effendi. Where is Mr. Effendi? 44:02 Good afternoon, Doc. I hope you're 44:03 always healthy. Amen. I'll have a 44:06 consultation. My child often cries and 44:10 plays alone, hallucinates because he's 44:13 being bullied by his friends. What's 44:17 the solution? Yes, Doc, right? H, this 44:19 bullying on Zenel is indeed more severe 44:22 . In our time, Mak, Baby Boomer, 44:25 bullying was minimal, because even a 44:27 little bit of knowledge already occurs, 44:29 the process of being able to fight back 44:32 , right? 44:32 Very Generation Z. 44:34 Yes, Generation Z. Wow, that's why it's 44:35 called the strawberry generation, right 44:36 ? 44:38 So bullying can be used with media. Not 44:41 meeting, right, but trying to give each 44:42 other words and sentences. 44:44 Yes. So, Mr. Effendi, bullying 44:47 children's vulnerability must be 44:49 supported by the environment. They are 44:53 fragile, right? Therefore, the 44:55 environment must be a support. The 44:58 environment must be a place to 45:00 reconcile with what they receive. Don't 45:03 just make them cry like that, ah, weak, 45:06 as if they really want to build them up 45:08 . But in fact, we are just plunging 45:11 them into increasingly uncontrolled 45:12 bullying reactions. So in other words, 45:16 Mr. Effendi, ee accompany them, ee give 45:19 them a chance to express what they said 45:22 earlier, the bullying actions 45:24 experienced by their friends. Only then 45:28 should we also involve, for example, 45:30 the school, involve the school, Miss, 45:32 because if not. 45:33 ee sen is also getting worse, the more 45:35 people see that their friends are 45:37 having more fun, 45:40 ee they react in a way that is half 45:41 their target, so they are afraid. The 45:43 more crowded it gets, the more it gets. 45:45 Well, of course he must also cooperate 45:47 with the relevant parties, the school, 45:49 the guidance counselor, and so on, so 45:51 that there are stages that cannot be 45:53 interpreted as someone who is bullied 45:55 who actually likes being bullied, sir. 45:57 Because the bully actually becomes a 46:00 friend to tease, instead it becomes a 46:02 topic to strengthen conversations, 46:04 strengthen closeness because his 46:06 resilience is good. But some children 46:08 are very sensitive, yes, even if teased 46:11 a little, of course they are sad, yes, 46:13 running to the bathroom crying and so 46:15 on. And of course this must be calmed. 46:18 So the role of the family in particular 46:20 must be a place that we call a support 46:22 when he wants to talk, don't 46:24 immediately cry and sulk and make you 46:26 weak. Listen first, okay? Listen first 46:30 when he is indeed experiencing the 46:32 bullying. While we listen, while we 46:35 certainly strengthen, come on, parents 46:37 are ready to help you. Oh, and even 46:41 when it was really bad, involving the 46:43 school with the guidance counselor, and 46:45 uh, the environment is certainly 46:47 necessary too. Because, uh, bullying is 46:50 so powerful in this technological era, 46:52 and its impact, if not addressed 46:55 comprehensively on vulnerable people, 46:57 is dangerous. And it will result. I 47:01 think there are children who are asked, 47:03 "When are you going to pay the farewell 47:06 money?" Because their parents don't 47:08 have the money, huh? 47:09 Heh. 47:10 That question is very piercing. 47:12 His friends have already paid, but he 47:14 hasn't paid yet, 47:15 so he committed suicide. 47:16 Oh my God. 47:17 Oh my God. Of course, this 47:18 vulnerability, as mentioned earlier, 47:20 really makes the person being bullied, 47:22 we don't know at what stage. It's a 47:25 simple question that maybe the teacher 47:27 didn't mean to harass, 47:29 but it was like, "Wow, I'm the 47:31 only one who hasn't paid, the friend in 47:33 front of me has." How embarrassed I was 47:34 , something like that, even though 47:35 there were economic difficulties. The 47:37 teacher was okay. So let's teach our 47:40 children not to bully their friends. 47:44 Next, um, Sir, thank God, Doctor. Last 47:50 year both my parents died, as a result, 47:53 my eldest sister lost a lot. He's 47:56 always withdrawn, and I really feel 48:01 sorry for him, Doc. I'm afraid this is 48:04 getting worse, and I'm even afraid he 48:07 might fall into the category mentioned 48:10 earlier, ODGJ. What should I do, Doc? 48:13 Please respond. What should I do about 48:16 him? Thank you. 48:17 Yes, Mr. Syukur. The sense of belonging 48:21 from love is indeed something that 48:24 every human being desires. People need 48:27 love, need protectors, so parents must 48:30 be such a place, right? Protectors, 48:33 affection, providers of all needs 48:35 suddenly disappear, right? There are 48:39 many phenomena of sadness that make a 48:42 child vulnerable to grief that they 48:45 can't control. So, what happened? In 48:49 the context mentioned earlier, it's the 48:50 sense of belonging. So in this life, we 48:53 shouldn't feel that we own it too much. 48:56 Hm. 48:57 The principle of life is trust. 48:59 Children are entrusted, parents are 49:01 entrusted, assets are entrusted, 49:02 positions are entrusted. When the owner 49:06 takes it, because they occupy what is 49:08 entrusted, it won't waver. But if our 49:11 sense of ownership is too high, that's 49:13 what's dangerous. 49:14 Heeh. 49:15 One day, everything will disappear. 49:17 That's why the concept of ownership 49:19 belongs only to the Creator. That's why 49:22 when someone experiences a calamity, 49:23 what is the statement of istida? 49:25 Innalillahi 49:27 wa inna ilaihi rojiun. This isn't just 49:29 because someone dies, sir. It should be 49:31 in accordance with what was said 49:32 earlier, right? Then, maybe there's a 49:34 calamity, innalillahi wa inn. Because 49:36 indeed, everything comes from Allah, 49:38 and we ask Allah for solutions and a 49:39 way out. And hopefully, Mas Syukur will 49:42 invite that older sibling to the stage 49:44 called reconciliation. The needle can 49:46 no longer be turned to keep parents 49:48 alive. The needle can no longer be 49:50 turned to give breath back to both 49:52 parents. But the hands of life will 49:54 continue. Let's keep doing what we can 49:57 with mindfulness, with CBT. So, Mas 50:00 Syukur, in that context, it might be 50:03 necessary to take him to a therapist. 50:06 Don't let it escalate into depression. 50:09 What if, "Ah, never mind, I'd better go 50:11 with my parents. I'd better die too." 50:13 Well, that's dangerous. Well, 50:15 depression ultimately leads to a lack 50:17 of zest for life and ultimately a sense 50:19 of nothingness and ultimately an 50:20 unwillingness to live, and ultimately, 50:22 it's better to just die. Well, of 50:25 course, therapists can rebuild, 50:27 reawaken, and continue to maintain the 50:30 spirit and energy that God has given 50:32 them through methods that are tailored 50:35 to their level. Like what Alma Kakak 50:38 said earlier. 50:40 Yes, it seems that almost all of us, if 50:42 we overdo it like that, will experience 50:44 something good, Doc. Hmm, from Mr. 50:49 Fawas. Good afternoon, Doc. Why is it 50:52 that the crazy people I see are so 50:54 healthy and never sick? Does their 50:57 mental state have a big influence on 50:58 their physical health? 51:01 Really crazy, but yes. 51:03 Yes, it seems like that, physical 51:06 appearance and all sorts of things. 51:08 This is the difference when we are 51:10 truly conscious, Sir. He he. 51:13 At such a high level of consciousness, 51:14 we screen everything. We eat, we pay 51:16 attention to washing our hands. Imagine 51:17 people with mental disorders no longer 51:18 thinking about that, right? They don't 51:20 wash their hands. Even when he was 51:23 sifting through the trash, if it's 51:25 serious, because he can't continue 51:27 living, then anything dirty becomes 51:29 something he no longer thinks about. Is 51:32 he healthy? Of course not. If we then 51:35 examine him, we'll find out. The 51:37 problem is he doesn't think about it, 51:39 sir. 51:39 He. That's the only 51:40 difference. So when a person is in a 51:42 rational state, his mind certainly 51:45 becomes a shield, a protector, for him 51:47 to filter things that exist in his 51:49 reality. He certainly cares. But 51:52 because of the mental component and he 51:54 doesn't pay attention to it, so he 51:55 doesn't pay attention to the components 51:57 of what healthy people pay attention to 51:59 . So of course it's not like that. 52:02 That's why it's the same during COVID, 52:04 people with mental disorders won't be 52:05 exposed to COVID. We have a mental 52:07 hospital treating people with COVID 52:09 disorders. So, 52:11 uh, immunity will still be affected, 52:13 even if he has a mental disorder. It's 52:15 not automatic because he doesn't think 52:16 about it, "Oh, he didn't think about it 52:18 , he's indifferent," but when the virus 52:20 enters, he will still be infected. 52:22 Likewise with other components, say 52:25 dirty food, digestive infections can 52:27 occur. So the problem is that they just 52:29 don't get checked and they don't care, 52:31 and the result isn't reflected in their 52:33 physical condition. 52:35 Yes, we still have plenty of time. Okay 52:39 , this is a question from Marl. I'm 22 52:42 years old, doc. I could say I lack 52:45 parental attention, but my parents are 52:47 also always demanding things because 52:50 they are the first child. Maybe I'm 52:52 always forced to appear the strongest. 52:55 Even though every night I cry because I 52:59 feel stressed. I trust one person. I 53:03 tell him everything, but he leaves 53:05 because he can't stand me. My parents 53:09 don't support the work I enjoy. This 53:13 adds to my burden. Now at work, I have 53:16 difficulty focusing. I once took a 53:19 psychological test with depression 13, 53:21 psychopathy 10. So I overthink. My 53:24 teacher said that if it's like this, 53:26 you could have a split personality. So 53:29 I'm scared, Doc. What should I do? I'm 53:32 afraid of myself because I feel there's 53:35 something wrong with me. Please give me 53:38 some guidance. Yes. 53:39 Yes, Marlin. I think by listening to 53:43 Rasil, this is one way Rasil tries to 53:45 educate him that information like this 53:48 is important, and it turns out Marlin 53:51 can grasp and benefit from dialogue and 53:54 discussion, even though he certainly 53:57 has limitations. He. 54:00 Of course, what Marlin meant earlier 54:03 was starting from parents, friends, and 54:05 then work. Well, this actually has an 54:08 impact on what I said earlier about the 54:10 symptoms and signs. 54:12 He, 54:12 yes. It started with compulsion. 54:15 Actually, Malin's potential is 54:17 extraordinary. It's just that he was 54:20 forced to do it. Well, let's move 54:23 forward, ee, make peace with that 54:25 compulsion. That word compulsion will 54:30 definitely have an incomplete impact, 54:33 not wholeheartedly for us to continue 54:37 this life. So, the past that was full 54:40 of compulsion, let's try to change it 54:43 by making peace with that situation. 54:46 And if necessary, the process can be 54:48 done by going to a counselor, you can 54:50 go to a therapist to learn techniques 54:53 for making peace with past situations 54:55 that were forced to be fully educated 54:57 about things that ee must always be 54:59 okay. Ee, even though Marlin faced a 55:03 struggle that was full of discomfort, 55:05 huh. Well, the result of course left 55:09 what was called ee uncomfortable sides 55:11 and ultimately created ee traces ee now 55:13 that will have an impact. Therefore, 55:16 making peace with the past will have 55:17 techniques 55:18 with mindfulness techniques, with 55:20 resilience techniques. There will be 55:23 many techniques from therapists to 55:25 strengthen Marlin that can make 55:26 Marlin's extraordinary potential that 55:28 Marlin actually already has. Only there 55:32 was a process that was not followed 55:34 properly, because it started with 55:36 compulsion. Well, from now on there 55:39 will be a method called making peace 55:40 first, yes, with the compulsion because 55:42 it can no longer be turned back the 55:44 clock, e sincerity. But right now there 55:46 is a time that Marlin ee must go 55:48 through and there is a future that must 55:50 still be filled. So keep moving forward 55:53 , there is indeed a friend, yes, as 55:55 long as we don't feel like we own it, 55:57 don't place it 100%because in time it 56:00 will disappear, it will go. So how do 56:03 you meet the Halik? He will never 56:05 disappear. Find that ownership in the 56:08 creator who never disappears. That's 56:11 why surrendering to the Creator, 56:13 remembering God, praying, and putting 56:15 our trust in Him never goes away. 56:18 Wherever we are, whether we lose our 56:20 family, our position, or have no 56:22 possessions, the Creator is always with 56:24 us. When we are, He certainly has 56:26 everything and will definitely help us. 56:28 Masyaallah. And Ramadan and fasting 56:30 will make us more able to draw closer 56:33 to this Creator. Yes, hopefully, even 56:36 though many of us will still experience 56:39 things as conveyed in some of the 56:42 questions this afternoon, hopefully the 56:45 answers strengthen our spirits. Once 56:50 again, if we really have to make peace 56:52 with ourselves, befriend our own 56:55 emotional difficulties, let's improve. 56:58 Okay, Doc. This is from Tasya, ee, 57:01 she's only 20-something, 22. Working in 57:04 marketing deviates from my 57:06 undergraduate degree. So, I often feel 57:10 depressed and emotional. 57:12 Previously, I was often disturbed by 57:15 unstable moods and often panicked when 57:18 in certain situations. Is it possible, 57:23 Doc, that this job is causing or 57:24 worsening my condition like this? 57:27 Because working with what she learned 57:30 is different. Heeh. 57:33 Yes, Tasya. Yes, this is interesting, 57:35 Miss. God has given every human being 57:39 specific intelligence. There is 57:42 mathematical intelligence, there is 57:43 interpersonal intelligence, there is 57:45 musical intelligence, there is motor 57:46 intelligence and so on. So it's never 57:49 too late, Miss Tasya, to actually map 57:51 it first. Well, Marzuki Mahdi's illness 57:54 is one of the advantages, 57:56 we help map each person to see whether 57:58 they are on the right track with their 58:00 potential 58:02 or not. Because, you said earlier that 58:05 you have a bachelor's degree, but your 58:07 job is marketing, even though it's not 58:10 something you studied. 58:11 Well, this is what needs to be matched. 58:13 So, is it true that your job is 58:16 actually your true interest? Miss Tasya 58:20 , you did pursue it but didn't get any 58:22 formal education, or when you did have 58:25 formal education at that time, it 58:27 wasn't actually in that major. So, once 58:30 again, it's never too late in the 58:33 process of developing human potential, 58:35 and one of the things that the hospital 58:38 excels at is that. How do we help 58:42 people who are caught up in the 58:44 educational process that they have with 58:47 the job they will pursue? Well, we can 58:52 try to match that. Oh, you guys have 58:54 this potential. So what job will 58:57 actually be the right thing for him to 58:59 grow and develop into something that 59:01 has positive performance. That's why 59:04 the right man in the right place is 59:06 really a thing that is determined in 59:08 every company. The wrong place, the 59:11 wrong person will definitely not 59:12 produce the right performance. Well, 59:15 that's why, please, if you want to know 59:17 , there are techniques, yes, try to 59:19 review as mentioned earlier whether 59:21 this potential is right, or whether it 59:23 was engineered that the environment 59:25 that was the job that was ee not right, 59:28 ee in growing the potential that is 59:30 owned to become a person who can 59:31 perform high. Of course, there are two 59:34 things that I said earlier. Is it true 59:36 that marketing is actually the part 59:38 that is in demand, so why are you 59:40 looking for a job in marketing, for 59:42 example, but you don't have the 59:43 provisions, so you need to add 59:45 knowledge. Or is it true that ee ee 59:48 this is correct, yes, the bachelor's 59:50 education is what is provided, but the 59:52 scope of the job is not suitable. So, 59:55 looking for a job is not haphazard, 59:57 right? We really have to find work that 1:00:00 aligns with our passion, something 1:00:02 we're truly interested in, something we 1:00:04 enjoy, and that will definitely make us 1:00:06 happy. But if we work in a forced 1:00:09 environment, it will ultimately lead to 1:00:11 suboptimal performance. And there are 1:00:15 techniques that can help, called 1:00:17 mapping human potential by looking at 1:00:19 aptitude tests and what job scopes are 1:00:21 suitable for them. 1:00:25 Yes, hopefully, because finding a new 1:00:27 job is also an interesting challenge. 1:00:30 The important thing is that it fits our 1:00:33 passion and longing. Okay, to Mr. 1:00:36 Margianto now, Doc. 1:00:38 I have a question. I work with my 1:00:40 sister who is far from her parents. I 1:00:44 heard that her mother is experiencing 1:00:46 stress because she misses her children. 1:00:50 Now she likes to laugh to herself for 1:00:53 no reason, Doc. And sometimes she sings 1:00:56 incoherently. How can you recover 1:00:59 quickly? Thank you in advance, and 1:01:02 hopefully I can go home this Eid. 1:01:05 Heeh. 1:01:06 Yes, of course, Mardianto, we can also 1:01:09 empathize with your situation, which of 1:01:12 course we must also pay attention to. 1:01:16 Well, this is where it's important to 1:01:18 try to divide your time, opportunities, 1:01:20 and so on. So, if we already know that 1:01:25 the mother herself has run out of 1:01:27 resources, then of course, therapy 1:01:29 related to fulfilling that need must be 1:01:32 carried out. But it's not possible 1:01:35 because the place is far away, her work 1:01:37 is far away, and she's not close to 1:01:39 where she lives. So, these are the 1:01:41 modifications that must be made. As I 1:01:43 said earlier, hopefully, the momentum 1:01:45 of Eid al-Fitr means we can meet. Well, 1:01:47 that's being explored, right, Mas 1:01:49 Pardianto. What exactly is needed for 1:01:51 Mother to overcome that? No. Is it 1:01:54 possible for Mother to say yes 1:01:57 to being one of them because she really 1:01:59 misses and longs, or are we just 1:02:00 engineering it, we're engineering it to 1:02:03 be able to fulfill that need. 1:02:04 Especially with technology, right? 1:02:06 Yes. We 1:02:06 can use Zoom, we can use video calls, 1:02:08 and so on. So, how they miss that, with 1:02:12 technology, will provide some relief 1:02:15 from what they're experiencing, so it 1:02:17 can be treated. Moreover, later on, Eid 1:02:21 al-Fitr can be extraordinary. So, of 1:02:24 course, we can't really know more 1:02:26 because the level of longing, crying, 1:02:29 laughing alone is purely due to that 1:02:32 or 1:02:33 are there other factors. Well, that 1:02:34 needs to be explored further. That's it 1:02:36 , Sir. 1:02:37 Okay. And now it's been 14 of these 14, 1:02:45 the next question from ee is not here, 1:02:55 Doc. If people often say, "I don't have 1:03:03 feelings, I'm selfish, am I mentally 1:03:06 disturbed?" In fact, I don't think so 1:03:11 either, Doc. Heeh. 1:03:13 Okay, yes. Talking about human 1:03:17 character, we can use the Johari Windo 1:03:20 window, right? One theory that tries to 1:03:22 remind us, right? The Johari Windo 1:03:25 window provides a kind of portrait 1:03:27 within ourselves, there are things we 1:03:29 know. 1:03:30 He, 1:03:32 oh, I have this character and people 1:03:33 know, oh, we are like that. That's the 1:03:37 area we call us as people judge us. But 1:03:41 there are windows that we know that 1:03:44 others don't know. Well, this is a 1:03:47 difficult thing, pareasy, because it is 1:03:49 only certain people who can be shown, 1:03:50 yes, in limited things. Other people 1:03:53 never know the character of a snorer, 1:03:55 yes, because people don't openly snore 1:03:57 when they sleep. Well, that's what 1:03:59 according to the window is indeed only 1:04:00 certain people who are limited and 1:04:02 themselves who know, whereas in general 1:04:03 , people don't know. Well, in the 1:04:05 character mentioned earlier, it could 1:04:06 be in the third portrait, Miss. He 1:04:08 doesn't feel it, but other people feel 1:04:10 that we have an egotistical nature, we 1:04:12 have a character that perhaps only 1:04:14 cares about ourselves. That's why I 1:04:17 said I don't feel that way. But other 1:04:19 people feel what is said in the third 1:04:21 window. We never feel that. That's why 1:04:26 the label that people are indeed 1:04:27 talkative appears. Even though people 1:04:29 who are talkative don't feel like they 1:04:30 are being talked to, or something like 1:04:31 that. 1:04:32 Well, this so-called third window is 1:04:34 something we really have to correct as 1:04:36 input. He. 1:04:38 Because it means there has been 1:04:39 feedback given by other parties with 1:04:41 characters that we don't have, right? 1:04:44 Why do other people feel that way? Well 1:04:45 , that means it becomes a term for 1:04:48 introspection, yes, for us to perhaps 1:04:51 change so that people's impressions of 1:04:54 us can try to adjust. Although not all 1:04:57 of what people comment is actually what 1:04:59 they feel, yes, the label "talkative" 1:05:02 is only for certain people, not for 1:05:04 others, for example. So that's not what 1:05:07 is meant, yes. But in general, yes, 1:05:10 people give a kind of warning to our 1:05:12 character that we are not aware of. 1:05:14 Well, that's what it's called feedback. 1:05:17 We have to try to correct it because 1:05:19 unconsciousness about that character is 1:05:21 indeed something we maintain, right? E, 1:05:23 I'm not like that, really. In the end, 1:05:25 maybe we don't want to change. 1:05:26 Even though it can be detrimental, 1:05:27 right, Doc. 1:05:28 Well, that's roughly it. Let's optimize 1:05:32 the month of Ramadan by fasting, which 1:05:34 is called restraining and restraining 1:05:36 with many things. And Doc, we are at 1:05:39 the end. May I summarize today's 1:05:40 discussion? 1:05:41 Yes. Brothers and sisters listeners 1:05:46 Risal Arasil, happy that fasting not 1:05:49 only trains us in the aspect of 1:05:52 physical health, but fasting is 1:05:55 actually trying to strengthen the 1:05:58 steadfastness of the soul, ee human 1:06:01 desires. Because later when called by 1:06:04 God, it will not be asked, "O owner of 1:06:07 a heart with a great heartbeat, O owner 1:06:09 of kidneys with great excess function, 1:06:11 O owner of legs that can run fast." No. 1:06:14 What Allah will call is ya ayyatuhan 1:06:17 nafsul mutmainah. O owner of calm souls 1:06:20 , O owner and controller of souls who 1:06:22 are good at controlling emotions. That 1:06:25 is what Allah calls. Whether his heart 1:06:27 is brittle, or his bones cannot run 1:06:29 fast, Allah does not care. As long as 1:06:31 he faces me, he is a person who flows 1:06:33 calm souls. And fasting is the essence 1:06:36 that will prepare us when we are called 1:06:38 by God, our souls have been judged by 1:06:40 Allah to be the owner. Ya ayyuhanah 1:06:43 irji ilbiki rodatan mardiah fadkhuli fi 1:06:46 ibadi wadhuli jannati. People with calm 1:06:49 souls will be gathered with His chosen 1:06:51 servants and will enter His paradise. 1:06:54 Masyaallah. Thank you very much Dr. 1:06:58 Fidiansyah SpKJ. MPH truly touches our 1:07:02 deepest needs, the awareness that 1:07:06 physical health still needs to be 1:07:09 accompanied by non-physical health, 1:07:13 right, Doc? 1:07:14 I. 1:07:15 Okay. Hopefully Dr. Fadiansyah who 1:07:18 practices at the Marzuki Mahdi Mental 1:07:21 Hospital in Bogor will also be blessed 1:07:23 with good health. 1:07:25 Amen. 1:07:26 Today is International Bipolar Day. 1:07:29 Hopefully friends who happen to have 1:07:32 family members or friends with bipolar 1:07:34 provide comfort to them all. 1:07:38 Amen. 1:07:38 Billahi taufik walhidayah. 1:07:39 Wasalamualaikum warahmatullahi 1:07:41 wabarakatuh. 1:07:42 Waalaikumsalam. 
