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0:08 Brail TV. Brothers and sisters blessed 0:17 by Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala. We have 0:19 arrived at the special news topic 0:21 dialogue session for Friday's edition. 0:23 We are already connected with our guest 0:26 , Ustaz Abdullah Heha Mahua, on the 0:28 other end of the line. Hello. Peace be 0:30 upon you, Bang Dula. 0:34 And peace be upon you too, Mas Angga. 0:37 How is your Friday morning? Are you 0:39 healthy, Bang Dula? Yes. 0:40 Uh, healthy. It's just that, you know, 0:42 hundreds of thousands of children have 0:44 been poisoned by the Free Nutritious 0:46 Meal (MBG). But only one child 0:49 protested, that is, the child in 0:51 Krakatau who protested. 0:52 My goodness. 0:53 And I felt the impact, which is that 0:56 I've started coughing. And right now, I 0:59 am currently in Ambon for a friendly 1:02 visit. 1:03 Oh, don't forget to wear a mask, Bang 1:05 Dula. 1:06 Wow, hopefully 1:08 hopefully you always stay healthy, Bang 1:10 Dula. 1:11 Bang Dula, we are highlighting a few 1:13 things that were even mentioned earlier 1:15 , right? 1:16 The issue of the MBG. It keeps emerging 1:20 and being highlighted, right? It lacks 1:25 empathy; not only the government has 1:28 lost empathy and conscience, it turns 1:31 out everyone involved in the MBG 1:34 production has as well. From the top 1:39 down to the bottom, victims keep 1:42 falling, right? And it turns out, what 1:46 should I call it? The government 1:49 spokespeople are actually increasing 1:51 now. There are so many supporting, what 1:53 is it...supporting the MBG, supporting 1:57 the policy. So the voices of criticism 2:00 and the calls for the MBG to be 2:02 evaluated immediately are facing 2:04 tougher challenges. Bang Dula, how do 2:08 you see this, what should I call it, 2:12 this strong network defending the MBG 2:15 despite all its flaws and weaknesses, 2:19 as if the public is powerless? Then 2:24 secondly, Bang Dula, we also want to 2:27 highlight that if before it was a 2:29 network, now the hajj quota corruption 2:32 case keeps spreading. I am reminded of 2:36 a case from back then, a book titled ' 2:39 Gurita Cekas'(The Cekas Octopus). Well, 2:43 now it's almost similar, an octopus of 2:44 corruption in the hajj. Ministers are 2:48 now being investigated by the KPK again 2:50 , from former Youth and Sports 2:51 Ministers to now Nusron Wahid who is 2:53 also appearing on the radar. Not to 2:55 mention other radars. So the flow of 2:58 funds isn't just to one place that we 3:00 once mentioned in Solo, but flows 3:02 everywhere. So, these two things first. 3:06 Bang Dula, how do you see this? Yes. 3:10 First, regarding the MBG. In physics 3:15 theory, if we press against a wall, 3:19 there is an equal reaction. Well, it's 3:23 like that. So, action equals reaction. 3:29 Because the MBG is Prabowo's flagship 3:32 program. Therefore, whether they like 3:37 it or not, it must be defended for any 3:39 reason. 3:41 H 3:43 I have been in Ambon for 2 days, and I 3:45 hear stories about the victims of the 3:46 MBG; there are quite a lot of them. H 3:50 Yesterday morning I 3:52 Public lecture at UMPTI Visipol UMPTI. 3:57 And questions from students and even 3:59 lecturers brought up the MBG program. 4:03 So, I explained by recounting my 4:06 experience in Malaysia, which I've 4:09 shared before, when my child in the 4:12 first grade of elementary school came 4:15 home with a long loaf of bread and a 4:18 tall carton 4:21 of milk. I asked my child, "Did all the 4:23 students get one?""No, only a few." It 4:27 turned out I only found out later that 4:30 during school registration, I filled 4:33 out a form stating my income was RM500. 4:37 Because I had only been in Malaysia for 4:39 a few months and didn't have a steady 4:40 job yet, so I wrote RM500. 4:42 Yeah. 4:42 So someone told me, "Well, that makes 4:44 sense." I asked, "Why?""You're 4:46 considered poor." If it's RM500, that's 4:48 poor. 4:48 Yeah. 4:48 So the minimum is RM800. That means 3.2 4:54 million, so it’s considered poor, and 4:57 they are given assistance in the form 5:00 of bread and 5:02 what is it, milk. So, that was 5:04 Malaysia's version of MBG 40 years ago. 5:08 40 years ago, straight to schools. So, 5:11 to the lecturers and students at UMPTI 5:14 yesterday, I said if the MBG is 5:16 implemented—because it is a 5:18 non-negotiable for Prabowo, as that is 5:20 what got him elected—then 5:25 there is a priority scale, namely the 5:27 3T regions: frontier, outermost, and 5:29 poorest. 5:31 For example, in Papua, then Aceh, North 5:34 Kalimantan, 5:37 in the outermost, frontier, and poorest 5:39 regions. And it shouldn't be through 5:43 what is called SPPG and so on, but 5:47 directly, like social assistance. The 5:51 Ministry of Social Affairs already has 5:53 the data. 5:54 Yes. 5:55 People who are poor, near-poor, and so 5:57 on. So, this way, there are no extra 6:00 costs, 6:01 no costs for buying shoes, shirts, or 6:04 anything else, because the school 6:07 directly... 6:09 or from the Ministry of Social Affairs, 6:11 it is sent directly to the person 6:12 concerned, and 6:15 parents know better what their 6:17 children's needs are. Just look at... 6:20 Mas Angga. 6:21 In Jakarta, all students from 6:23 elementary to high school receive it, 6:26 right? Yeah. 6:27 Even though the poverty rate in Jakarta 6:28 is only 4.0 4.03%. People in poverty in 6:35 Jakarta. 6:36 While in Papua, 30%are poor. 6:39 In Maluku, it's 14 point something 6:41 percent. That is according to BPS data. 6:44 Yes. 6:45 But according to World Bank data, 60.2% 6:48 of Indonesians are poor. 6:50 Well, like that. 6:52 So, the Department of Social Affairs 6:54 already has the data. Let's just use 6:57 the data from BPS. Yeah. 7:00 So, that process can be implemented, as 7:03 it has already been running for the 7:05 social assistance sent out. So parents 7:08 can use it for whatever is needed, 7:10 because why? There is... 7:12 for example, my experience as someone 7:16 from Ambon, where I only ate rice when 7:19 I was little on Fridays. 7:22 Hmm. Yeah. 7:23 So Friday in my village was a small 7:26 celebration, while other days we ate 7:28 sago, sweet potatoes, or cassava. So 7:32 once a week for rice, right? Yes, once 7:34 a week like that. 7:36 In West Papua, people are not familiar 7:39 with rice, they are familiar with 7:41 papeda. Papeda is made from sago, then 7:44 made like starch, then served with fish 7:46 or something. So those regions cannot 7:50 be generalized like what is being done 7:52 by the MBG. Now, because of that, my 7:55 suggestion is that through the social 7:57 affairs ministry like social aid for 7:59 the outermost, frontier, and poorest 8:02 regions, the efficiency that Prabowo 8:04 intends can be achieved. 8:06 Yes. Now, if Prabowo's typology is 8:10 efficiency, then taking nearly half of 8:14 the state budget for education for the 8:18 MBG is not efficiency. 8:21 Now, the MBG chairman who was arrested, 8:24 their income was billions per day. 8:26 Yes. 8:27 Meanwhile, honorary teachers in remote 8:29 areas in Papua, Maluku, or what is it, 8:32 Kalimantan, get 500,000 per month and 8:34 don't even receive it every month, only 8:36 after several months. 8:38 Uh-huh. 8:39 And then this MBG chairman got billions 8:41 a day like that. 8:42 What kind of efficiency theory is that? 8:46 So, that's about the MBG. If right now 8:49 ministers are reacting and so on, it's 8:52 because they need to remain ministers. 8:56 To remain ministers, they must support 8:57 the boss's program. If not, the boss's 9:00 program could be reshuffled like that. 9:02 So this is a matter of 9:04 uh, the stomach actually, how the 9:05 stomach is like that. So that, whatever 9:09 the boss wants, like there is a funny 9:12 story, what is it 9:17 uh, a forest leader, namely a tiger. 9:23 Then he called, what is it, a goat, 9:26 what is it "Execute this." But then the 9:32 goat didn't execute it, so it was eaten 9:34 by the tiger. 9:36 Uh-huh. 9:36 Likewise a deer came, executed it. Well 9:42 , it didn't want to be eaten, the deer. 9:45 Then the mouse deer came, he said, " 9:47 Execute this.""I will just follow the 9:50 King's wishes." So he was safe like 9:53 that. So that is an illustration of how 9:57 people who serve their boss are safe. 10:00 Those who resist are finished off like 10:02 that. Now, the Constitutional Court's 10:05 ruling has stated that one cannot use 10:07 the education budget. 10:09 Hm. 10:09 Education budget. So, in that case, 10:12 Prabowo should realize it exists, but 10:15 the Constitutional Court used subtle 10:17 language, right, 2027? 10:19 subtle language 10:20 like 10:21 yes, subtle language APBN. H. 10:26 So, because of that, a revitalization 10:28 must be done the way I said earlier, 10:31 through the social affairs ministry in 10:34 the form of social aid. 10:36 Yes. Yes. 10:37 That is the MBG. 10:38 Now, highlighted before getting there, 10:40 Bang Dula Afan, highlighted is the 10:42 policy problem, now also highlighted is 10:45 the issue of the response, the leader's 10:47 response when the MBG has many problems 10:49 and many cases like that. Most recently 10:52 1,700 children and teachers in Sidoarjo 10:54 . Now, it is as if the authorities are 10:58 underestimating a humanitarian tragedy 11:01 to cover up the rot of the MBG and also 11:03 to cover up their cronies 'vendors. Can 11:07 this be called the most irresponsible 11:09 crime of leadership? Bang Dul, 11:13 I used to think the most evil one was 11:15 Jokowi. But it's only in this second 11:18 year that I consider Prabowo no less 11:20 evil than Jokowi. 11:22 Look at the North Sumatra case, 11:25 hm. 11:26 West Sumatra and Aceh had over 15 11:29 casualties. 11:30 Yes. 11:32 They refused to declare it a national 11:34 disaster. 11:35 Hm. Uh, then there was over 60 trillion 11:39 in state losses due to infrastructure 11:42 damage last October. 11:44 Hm. 11:45 They treated 1,500 people like it was 11:47 trivial. That's not livestock, Mas 11:50 Angga. 11:51 Those are human beings. 11:52 They have families, children, wives, 11:54 and so on. But they refused to declare 11:56 it a national disaster. Why? 11:59 If it's a national disaster, the 12:01 central government must release funds 12:03 for the national disaster. Meanwhile, 12:06 the budget is already very tight. We 12:09 have now added even more debt, uh, over 12:12 500 trillion in debt interest for 2026. 12:17 So the problem, Mas Angga, is how it 12:20 works in business theory. 12:23 If a shop is closed, then no income 12:25 comes in. If the shop is open, there is 12:28 income. Because of that, Mas Angga, 12:30 remember Ramadan last year. 12:31 Yeah. Parents protested because they 12:34 were training their elementary and 12:36 middle school children to fast, but the 12:38 school meals were still given. 12:41 Like that. 12:42 I was asked by my student, 12:44 why did it continue during Ramadan? 12:46 Well, this is business. If you own a 12:49 shop and it's closed, there's no income 12:50 , so Ramadan is just like that. Now, 12:54 last Ramadan, due to public criticism, 12:57 it was still done but given as food for 13:00 breaking the fast, which means, 13:04 uh, the shop didn't close, right? 13:06 It was just changed because this is bus 13:08 — 13:08 because this is business, like that. So 13:11 , therefore, the government's 13:14 sensitivity is very weak, and this 13:16 could be brought to the Constitutional 13:19 Court. 13:22 For a humanitarian crisis like that, so 13:25 that the school meal policy, even 13:28 though the Court has ruled, can be 13:30 brought again to, what do you call it, 13:33 relevant institutions so it is not 13:36 carried out by the school meal agency, 13:39 but by the Social Affairs Ministry as 13:41 social aid. That is one of the ways. 13:45 So that maybe Prabowo's face isn't 13:48 completely lost, 13:51 uh, but it doesn't harm the public, 13:52 doesn't harm the state, and importantly 13:54 , doesn't sacrifice citizens who get 13:56 poisoned and so on. 13:58 Then some even passed away, like that. 14:01 That's it, Mas Angga. 14:04 Second, let's turn to the octopus of 14:07 the Hajj case, Bang Dulah, that even 14:10 spread to DPR members asking for quotas 14:14 from 2023 to 2024, how is that, Bang 14:17 Dulah? So, uh, I have mentioned this 14:22 Hajj issue several times. So I, my 14:27 first Hajj with my wife was in 2008. 14:30 Hm. 14:31 2008. Uh, then later in the process, 14:36 what do you call it, explanations from 14:39 the Ministry of Religious Affairs, 14:42 specifically in the Depok area, it was 14:46 mentioned there was this fee, that fee, 14:49 and so on. 14:52 Then, uh, this transport to the airport 14:55 , suitcases, all had to be paid a 14:58 certain amount. I asked the people at 15:03 the Depok City Religious Affairs Office 15:05 , are the people being paid these 15:07 honorariums private individuals or 15:09 civil servants? He said civil servants. 15:13 Wait, why are civil servants given 15:14 honorariums? They are already paid a 15:16 salary to perform those duties. 15:19 Then they said this was outside working 15:21 hours, so there was no budget for it. I 15:23 told them, if so, then create the 15:25 budget. Hm. 15:26 The budget, um, to then be submitted to 15:28 the Ministry of Religious Affairs for 15:30 things like the cargo transport process 15:32 and so on. That is my first note that 15:35 there is a corruption problem in this 15:38 Hajj. One. 15:39 Yes. Yes. The second, when in Medina 15:43 during the briefings, during the 15:45 training and explanation process, it 15:48 was mentioned that in Medina the food 15:51 would be chicken, various delicious 15:54 things like that. 15:58 When in Medina, the vegetables were 16:01 boiled cabbage and then salted fish. 16:05 Salted fish. The pilgrims then 16:08 complained, so what did the Ministry of 16:10 Religious Affairs person say? Oh, this 16:13 is to remind you of home, to remember 16:16 home, you know. 16:17 What does home have to do with the menu 16:19 that was already promised? 16:22 Only one participant who worked for the 16:25 Jakarta regional government told me, " 16:28 Bro, I want to check the kitchen 16:30 downstairs. Can I?" Yes, please go 16:32 check. H 16:33 He went there, and all the cooks, the 16:35 parking attendants, they were all 16:36 Indonesians, so they could speak 16:38 Indonesian. 16:39 Yes. 16:40 He asked the kitchen staff, and they 16:42 said the budget was several hundred 16:45 riyals, but they only received half. 16:48 Hm. 16:48 So half of it was eaten up right there. 16:51 It was the same with the hotels. What 16:55 do you call it? Um, they made a profit 16:58 from the hotels like that. So, indeed, 17:00 that is the problem. Furthermore, when 17:03 in Medina, it was explained by the 17:05 religious office people, the Ministry 17:07 of Religious Affairs, that 17:10 later in Mecca we would stay for a few 17:12 days, then go on a tour, and then 17:15 straight to Arafat. 17:17 Hm. Yes. 17:19 I said, "Sir, according to Sunnah, we 17:21 have to go to Mina first for one night 17:24 before going to Arafat." He said, "The 17:30 tents aren't there yet, so we can't go 17:32 to Mina, we have to go straight." 17:35 Because it was my first time visiting 17:37 Saudi Arabia, I just believed it. 17:39 I just believed it. 17:39 Then upon arriving in 17:41 Yes. When arriving in Mecca, there was 17:43 a tour, right? A tour to Arafat, to 17:45 Mina, and so on. Yes. 17:47 When I arrived, I saw, wait, the, um, 17:50 tents are already there. 17:53 Why was it said that the tents were not 17:55 ready? Arafat is indeed set up during 17:58 the Hajj season, but Mina is permanent. 18:02 I kept thinking as a KPK person, 18:04 yes. 18:04 If there are 200,000 people, eating 18:08 three times a day, 18:10 yes, 18:10 one meal is 10 riyals, for 200,000 18:13 people, that’s how many, um, millions 18:16 or billions of riyals. 18:18 Then the bus rentals, how many hundreds 18:21 of buses, and how many hundreds of 18:23 riyals per bus, that adds up to a lot. 18:26 Yes. 18:27 So it means it is not because of a lack 18:30 of will, but it is a way to embezzle 18:32 funds from the pilgrims on their way to 18:35 Arabia like that. So it has indeed been 18:38 like that for a long time, which is why 18:40 three Ministers of Religious Affairs— 18:42 this is a hat-trick, these three 18:43 Ministers of Religious Affairs— 18:45 a hat-trick 18:45 were arrested by, what do you call it, 18:47 yes 18:49 law enforcement officials, whether 18:52 regarding Hajj funds, Hajj meals, or 18:55 regarding 18:57 hotel rentals and so on like that. So 19:01 then, when I was still at the KPK, we 19:03 proposed, and I was specifically 19:06 involved, to follow the model of a Hajj 19:08 savings fund, something like a 19:10 state-owned enterprise (BUMN). 19:14 Now, so ultimately, Prabowo created the 19:17 Ministry of Hajj and Umrah. But the 19:20 system remains the old system. 19:22 Only the Ministry is different, 19:23 separated from the Ministry of 19:24 Religious Affairs, but the system is 19:26 still the old one. So it hasn't changed 19:28 . So it just changed clothes 19:30 but the people are mostly the same. Now 19:32 , therefore, 19:36 I hope because there are several former 19:38 KPK employees there, they are now 19:39 trying to clean things up like that. 19:42 Now, 19:43 I am worried that if the attacks from 19:46 above, from the left, and from the 19:48 right are extraordinary, these friends 19:51 from the KPK there—who are victims of 19:53 Jokowi—could eventually be targeted. 19:57 Yeah. 19:58 So, some of those 75 victims of Jokowi 20:01 were then placed in what is called the 20:05 Ministry of Hajj and Umrah. Now, if 20:10 they continue to carry out their duties 20:12 as they did at the KPK, they could also 20:14 be pushed aside or fired like that. 20:18 What matters is that the government's 20:20 business, the oligarchs' business, the 20:22 business of those who have had huge 20:24 profits from the Hajj so far, will 20:26 continue. 20:28 But I hope that the public needs to 20:30 support, 20:32 needs to support the Ministry of Hajj 20:35 and Umrah to carry out existing 20:38 cleanups so that the Muslim community 20:41 —take a pedicab driver who only earns 20:44 2,000 rupiah a day, then his wife saves 20:48 5,000,000. His wife keeps it under the 20:51 mattress, under the pillow. Once it 20:53 reaches hundreds of thousands, then she 20:54 saves it in the bank. 20:55 It takes tens of years 20:57 before they can go on Hajj. 20:59 There is one pedicab driver in the city 21:01 of Malang or Solo 21:03 like that. So, people like pedicab 21:06 drivers, farmers, and fishermen who 21:09 save for decades, then their money is 21:12 used and eventually stolen by 21:14 irresponsible people. Just a few days 21:18 ago, there was another failed Umrah 21:20 because I don't know why, but it's the 21:22 same model like that as well. 21:25 So, those are the problems, which is 21:27 why it must be a total 21:29 right 21:30 total cleanup. So, if those who own 21:34 Umrah travel agencies do not meet the 21:36 requirements, they must be shut down 21:38 like that. 21:41 Well, what's even more, what's even 21:43 more saddening, Bang Dulah, is that if 21:46 we talk about needing a total cleanup 21:49 or total handling, the saddest part is 21:52 that the stakeholders or the officials, 21:55 let's say, from the executive to the 21:58 legislative branches, when they see 22:01 that the Hajj has become a massive 22:04 money-making project, their mindset 22:07 immediately becomes, "Can I get 22:10 something out of that?" Right, "Can I 22:13 take a cut from that?" That is the 22:16 problem with these officials 'mentality 22:19 , because as we saw in the latest trial 22:21 results, Isfah Abdillah Aziz or Gus 22:24 Alex mentioned that 24 members of 22:26 Commission VIII of the DPR asked for 22:29 gifts of up to 3,000 riyals per person, 22:31 right? That means these officials are 22:35 just looking at what they can get from 22:37 the situation, Bang Dulah. Yes, the 22:41 problem is that we have to look at the 22:42 root of the issue. The root cause is 22:47 that the cost to become a member of the 22:50 DPR, DPRD, or to become a regent, mayor 22:53 , governor, minister, or president is 22:55 very expensive, Mas Angger. 22:58 Very expensive. So when they are 23:00 elected as DPR/DPRD members, regents, 23:02 governors, mayors, or president and 23:04 vice president, they have to recoup... 23:07 the expenses they incurred. So this is 23:09 a business project of sorts. For 23:11 example, 23:13 I have said several times before that 23:15 in the 2024 Election yesterday, the 23:17 most votes obtained by a legislative 23:19 candidate were from South Sulawesi, 23:22 which was 200,000 votes, the highest in 23:24 Indonesia. I asked a friend from 23:27 Makassar, how much did they spend? 200 23:29 billion. Imagine, Mas Angga, 200 23:31 billion. One vote at 1 million, that's 23:33 200 billion. Now, the problem is, once 23:36 they become a member of the DPR, they 23:38 have to recover... 23:39 that... 23:40 what you call those losses. And because 23:43 of that, it turns out the way they do 23:44 it is by getting some of those project 23:46 funds. 23:48 So then they can pay it back. Therefore 23:51 , if those funds are stopped, then 23:53 those who rely on these projects have a 23:55 problem because they can't pay back 23:57 those costs. So, because of that, when 24:01 DPR members also ask for so many riyals 24:04 per person, it's the same thing, 24:06 because they also have to find room to 24:08 recover the costs, what you call it, 24:11 that were spent during the legislative 24:13 election. The latest survey results 24:18 show that back in 2019, to become a 24:20 central DPR member, it required at 24:22 least 5 billion. Now it's 50 billion. 24:25 The one yesterday was 50 billion. 24:28 Up to 100 billion to become a central 24:30 DPR member from the Jakarta electoral 24:32 district. So, the root of the problem 24:34 is indeed the elections, regional head 24:36 elections, and presidential elections. 24:38 Therefore, I always recommend on 24:40 various occasions that we return to the 24:43 original Constitution. The original 24:46 1945 Constitution states that the 24:47 President and Vice President are 24:49 elected by the MPR, 24:51 Governors are elected by the 24:52 provincial-level parliament, and 24:53 regents/mayors are elected by the 24:55 regency-level parliament. If there is 24:56 still manipulation, the KPK can process 24:58 it. Well, why is that? It happened a 25:02 few years ago. The KPK arrested 42 out 25:05 of 45 Malang City Council members, 25:07 hauled away in a single bus to Jakarta. 25:10 Yeah. So, for instance, if for the 25:13 Jakarta Governor there are 100 council 25:15 members, that means you need 51 votes 25:17 to win. If those 51 people use money 25:21 politics, the KPK could arrest all 51 25:24 in one busload. As for the presidential 25:28 election, the Vice President, first, 25:30 the cost is low, just a few days of 25:32 meetings, and then if there’s still 25:35 money politics, the KPK can monitor, 25:37 let's say, just around 1,000 people. If 25:42 it's the Presidential or Regional 25:43 elections involving millions, it’s 25:45 impossible for the KPK to process it 25:46 that way. So the key is to return to 25:49 the original 1945 Constitution. Of 25:52 course, with addendums; for example, if 25:54 the term limit is set to two periods, 25:56 that’s just an addendum. 25:59 Even though in Islam, 26:01 a Caliph's term is not limited. 26:03 Abu Bakar passed away while serving as 26:07 Caliph. Umar passed away while serving 26:10 as Caliph. Uthman passed away while 26:11 serving as Caliph. Ali bin Abi Talib 26:13 passed away while serving as Caliph. So 26:16 in Islam, even if you’ve only been 26:17 Caliph for a day, even if you’ve only 26:19 been a governor, regent, or mayor for a 26:21 day, even if you’ve only been 26:23 president for a day, if you violate the 26:25 constitution or regulations, you are 26:27 immediately impeached, even if it's 26:29 only been one day. 26:31 Yeah. Conversely, if they don’t 26:33 violate the constitution or regulations 26:35 , they can continue to carry out their 26:37 duties as long as that is the case. So, 26:40 the cost of elections can be eliminated 26:43 or reduced, 26:44 like that, Mas Angga. Regarding Hadith. 26:46 Alright. Okay. In closing, Bang Dolah, 26:50 my question is, when the KPK reveals 26:53 the phenomenon of a corruptor network 26:56 where the circle of corruption involves 26:59 people close to their family, 27:01 colleagues, and political allies, right 27:04 ? It was also mentioned earlier about 27:07 cronies in government projects. We see 27:10 the biggest problem with our nation's 27:13 officials is setting priorities. There 27:16 are disasters everywhere, yet there's 27:19 very little introspection. There's no 27:21 self-reflection, just increasing 27:23 arrogance. What is your closing thought 27:26 , Bang Dolah, so that these leaders of 27:28 the nation will introspect and reflect? 27:31 What do you think, Bang Dolah? Yes. To 27:34 all listeners in Indonesia and even 27:37 abroad. God willing, because this 27:41 Friday is blessed, we must note that in 27:44 Islam, it is sunnah after the salam of 27:47 both obligatory and voluntary prayers 27:50 to recite "Astagfirullahaladzim, 27:52 Astagfirullahaladzim, 27:54 Astagfirullahaladzim." In the villages, 27:59 we are taught to say Istighfar three 28:02 times. But the Hadith I found states 28:05 that the Prophet said it 70 times a day 28:07 . There is a Hadith that says to say 28:09 Istighfar 100 times. Hmm. 28:11 This means that between now and Friday, 28:14 we pray, introspect, analyze, and 28:18 evaluate what we did from dawn until 28:21 noon. Then at Asr, we pray and evaluate 28:24 what we did between noon and Asr, and 28:26 so on until Maghrib, Isha, and Fajr. It 28:30 means that anyone who does not perform 28:33 this self-reflection isn't aware that 28:35 they are not a good Muslim. If a good 28:38 Muslim prays, they understand their 28:40 prayer, and then they engage in 28:42 self-reflection. Now, the result of 28:44 that self-reflection is that there will 28:46 surely be weaknesses, shortcomings, and 28:48 strengths. Now, those weaknesses and 28:51 shortcomings must be improved. That is 28:53 why I always say, in the Quran, in 28:57 Surah Al-Baqarah verse 208, God says, " 29:00 O...""...you who...""...believe, enter 29:14 Islam in its totality, comprehensively, 29:16 do not be partial." So, we should not, 29:19 for example, say politics is not 29:22 Islamic, economy is not Islamic, and 29:24 only prayer is Islamic; it is not like 29:27 that. Like the Prophet, he was a 29:30 commander, a head of state, a 29:32 politician, and a leader of the nation. 29:35 If the Prophet were not a politician, 29:37 Hudaibiyah would not have brought 29:39 victory to the Muslims in just two and 29:40 a half years, Mas Angga. The entire 29:42 Arabian Peninsula embraced Islam. Hm. 29:44 If the Prophet were not a politician, 29:46 he would not have established the 29:48 Charter of Medina, which contains 49 29:49 articles regarding the relations 29:51 between the Ansar, Muhajirun, Jews, 29:52 Christians, and Bedouins. Therefore, we 29:56 must conduct evaluations and then make 29:58 improvements. Now, those who make 30:01 improvements based on those evaluations 30:04 will receive divine guidance from God, 30:06 growing like a snowball from the 30:09 mountaintop, small as a marble. He. 30:12 But as it rolls down, it becomes big 30:14 like a baseball. That is what is meant 30:17 by starting small. So it becomes big, 30:19 but round. Big and round, not flat, and 30:22 so on. Now, I hope on this blessed 30:26 Friday, the listeners, especially those 30:28 in Indonesia, will use this Friday to 30:31 reflect and evaluate, and one important 30:34 thing, Mas Angga, is to start from the 30:36 family. Hm. 30:39 As God says in the surah, what is it 30:41 called? Mention it. "O you who believe, 30:50 protect yourselves and your families 30:52 from a Fire whose fuel is people and 30:54 stones, over which are [appointed] 30:56 angels, harsh and severe..." and so on. 31:01 Because of that, if we feed our 31:03 children and wives with illicit money 31:05 —be it Hajj money, any money, or MBG 31:08 money—then cells will form in our 31:10 bodies and the bodies of our children 31:12 and wives that are made of forbidden 31:14 things. In the end, nothing will be 31:19 accepted. Whatever our prayers, our 31:21 Hajj, or our Umrah, they will not be 31:24 accepted. Because in Islamic principles 31:27 , forbidden things cannot be used 31:29 for infaq, charity, or even zakat; 31:32 everything must come from halal sources 31:34 . That is it, Mas Angga, for the 31:37 listeners. 31:38 Alright, Bang Do. Thank you very much 31:39 for this dialogue this morning. May 31:41 Bang Dolo always be in good health. God 31:43 willing, we will meet again next Friday 31:44 . 31:45 Peace be upon you, and God's mercy and 31:47 blessings. 31:48 And peace be upon you, and God's mercy 31:50 and blessings.