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Radio Silaturahim and also Rasil TV for
one Islam. Brothers and sisters who are
blessed by Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
Thank you for being with us on this
Islamic economic program. 70 years, 72
years of Indonesian independence, the
meaning of independence from an Islamic
economic perspective. But we have
discussed a lot tonight, Ustaz, yes, we
are in the first session, and in this
second session, we will answer the
questions that have been received. For
those of you who want to ask or comment
directly on this program by phone,
please contact us at 0218451512. Okay,
Ustaz. We will move on to the first
question, Ustaz, yes, from Mr. Hilman
in Cibinong. Assalamualaikum
warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi
wabarakatuh.
Ustaz, 72 years of Indonesian
independence. The people's economy
needs to be defended. Don't be late.
Farmers need a leader who cares about
and defends the agricultural sector,
which has been defeated by the
industrial sector, resulting in
agricultural lands being turned into
factories. What do you think, Ustaz?
Thank you, Mr. Hilman, for joining us
and listening to our broadcast tonight.
I agree with Mr. Hilman regarding the
agricultural sector. The agricultural
sector must be defended, fought for,
because our economy, up to now, has
been based on agriculture, plantations,
or agricultural products. But why is it
that development in the agricultural
sector is not progressing? We can
compare the lack of progress to, for
example, Korea, where land is limited,
but the farmers are so great. We ask
about the area, but it's like this, it
means a lot of improvements are needed.
We agree that it must be developed,
empowered, and defended. We need a
leader who understands this so that we
can develop this first, ensuring our
own food security. If we prioritize
development in non-agricultural sectors
, I see it as if we're...uh, what's the
proverb that says, "Whatever you chase,
you don't get what you get in a row."
Heeh.
We want to become an industry, so we
boost that sector with investment, and
we forget about agriculture. In the end
, we can't meet our basic needs. We
even import salt. But the industry
we're pursuing, with motives and so on,
we can't control it. So, what you chase
, you get what you get in a row. Right
now, the basis of our development, for
example, is focusing on agriculture to
ensure security first, to ensure our
food security. The prices of basic
necessities are affordable for our
people. This isn't secure yet. It could
still disappear. Rice could disappear,
it could suddenly rise. Uh, when? It
could disappear at any time. Salt could
suddenly rise 100%, 200%. In other
countries, there's never been a salt
crisis.
Yes.
Yes. Like in Pakistan, salt doesn't
come from the sea, but in the seven
years I lived there, there was never a
salt shortage. So what I see is that
what is being pursued is not being
achieved. What is conceived is
scattered. What does that mean? It is
our agricultural potential that we
actually have. We develop it through
this.
Heeh.
We can dream of making airplanes,
making trains, making whatever, go
ahead. But in my opinion, we have to
allocate resources to strengthen the
agricultural sector first so that it is
comfortable first, then we will move on
to other sectors. We don't do this
simultaneously.
Heeh. Well, because it's simultaneous,
we end up borrowing, yes, financial
resources don't support it,
only borrowing, that's the story. So in
principle, I agree with Mr. Ilman's
view, yes, we have to focus on
agriculture to secure our food first,
yes, to improve people's welfare by
providing food availability at
affordable prices and avoiding
instability. Yes, that's it. H.
Okay. Earlier, Mr. Ustaz mentioned debt
, and there was a question about debt.
Ustaz, peace be upon you.
Peace be upon you. The servant of Allah
did not mention the name of the person
on 08190586 and so on. Ustaz, our
country's development uses some of the
funds from foreign loans and that
contains usury. So we will use the
results of the development with its
usury elements. What do you think,
Ustaz?
Masyaallah yes. So the debt given by
donors to Indonesia, whether from the
World Bank or from the IMF or from
certain countries like Japan, America,
and so on, all contain interest.
He.
So it is indeed usury.
Heeh. So how do we mean we eat the
results of this demolition from this,
Sir? Yes, that's true. How else can I
answer yes? Reality
yes.
Um, hopefully we are forgiven by Allah
Subhanahu wa taala yes in this case yes
. yes, the development is carried out
with some loans from abroad
because our financial resources are
insufficient yes. Moreover, now the
current government's appetite is very
big yes.
Yes.
Building infrastructure everywhere
and taking debt very lightly. H
because debt is an unavoidable part of
their dictionary.
Even though the debt must be
interest-free, it's never discussed.
What is the law, uh, the law on the
government borrowing from donors that
carries interest? To my knowledge,
there has been no discussion in the
Ulema Council, huh? So
there's no consideration of that, from
that perspective. The government in
this case has adopted such a policy,
the policy of taking debt from other
parties, from donors, to finance
development in our country. Actually,
there are many alternatives, huh, but
uh, this alternative is never
considered as something to be followed.
Yes, it's only a consideration as a
tertiary study, a study that is not
complementary in nature, huh.
Yes, rather than not having such a
study. Yes, that's why, like all of you
, what we can do here is ask Allah
Subhanahu wa Ta'ala for forgiveness.
Hopefully, we will be forgiven because
we, what is it called? Can't avoid
usury in the context of the state, huh.
In the context of the state. If it's an
individual, perhaps we can avoid it.
But in the context of this country,
it's in everyone's interest. That's all
I can answer.
Yes. Okay, I'll move on to the next
question from a servant of God in
Cinere. Peace be upon you. Peace be
upon you. May Allah bless you. May
Allah
bless you.
Ustaz, I'd like to ask about
Indonesia's natural resources, which
are currently still being colonized by
the new colonialism. For example, the
gold mine in Preeport. What do you
think, Ustaz? This year is also a hot
issue again, Ustaz. I want to add more
time.
Yes.
Well, Freeport has been around for a
long time, since 1978. So, if we trace
it back, the agreement was actually
with the New Order government. It
was still in the early days of the New
Order, right, during the Suharto
administration. So, at that time, why
was it allowed to mine in Irian Jaya,
or in West Irian, it used to be called
Irian Jaya.
Iran Jaya used to be called that. In
fact, West Irian during the Bung Karno
era was West Irian in the 1960s. But
maybe there are strategies or political
considerations and so on. God knows
best. What is clear now is that it is
an agreement and if I'm not mistaken,
the agreement is very unbalanced.
Meaning we only get 1%of the profits,
right? Yes,
that and that was agreed to by the New
Order government at that time.
We also don't know how they agreed.
What you want to convey, what you want
to ask is what form is this?
Imperialism,
colonialism,
colonialism, yes, yes,
even if he doesn't say so, the facts
show that. How are we given an unequal
share of the profits when it's our land
? How is this possible?
How is this possible, the question?
That's more than the Dutch colonizers.
Yes.
Yes. That's
good, Ustaz, let's take the call that
has come in. Hello. Assalamualaikum.
Hello. Waalaikumsalam.
Who are you from? Where, Sir?
From Depok, Mr. Bambang.
Mr. Bambang, please. Assalamualaikum,
Ustaz.
Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi
wabarakatuh, Mr. Bambang. Please.
Oh, yes. I was waiting last Wednesday
night, but there wasn't a young man
like him.
Okay.
He wanted to ask about this, uh,
especially the Indonesian economy. Why
is it that if you pay attention, most
investors are either from America or
China? Why aren't there any in the
Middle East, where, God willing,
there's no usury,
no interest, like the one yesterday,
like the visit of the king in Saudi
Arabia, Ustaz. Well, secondly, we have
a friend asking for information, Ustaz,
about dinars.
Dinars, uh,
yes, there
will be profit sharing. So, is that
considered usury or not, sir? Like that
. Profit sharing is like this, I put in
IDR 5 million, then every month you get
IDR 300,000. Did
you buy dinars like that?
Yes.
Heeh.
So, how about this, Ustaz? I'm still
confused. That's why I wanted to ask,
Ustaz, what
do you do with the dinars, sir? Are you
invested in them or in
the dinner?
Yes. Uh yes, it's invested, take it,
for example, invest, ee, put in IDR
million or IDR million
for 6 months, we are not allowed to
withdraw, and every month we get this
and that.
Yes,
ee IDR 300,000. Now, I'm also confused
about this, Ustaz, how can I ask for an
explanation? Thank you, Ustaz in
advance.
Okay, Mr. Bombangasih. I have two
questions, Ustaz. The first is
why does it have to be from the West
and China? If it's the Middle East,
they say there's definitely no usury.
Yes, of course. That's the textbook we
read and we're
taught in college, that
makes us go west again, west again.
Huh, yeah. Uh, but we have to correct
that first, Mr. Bambang, yes, it's
called, ee,
that in the Middle East is free of
usury, but that's not true. Hehe.
In the Middle East, there is still dual
banking. In Saudi itself, there is
still dual banking. This means that
there are interest-based banks, and
Islamic-based banks are also present in
all of them. Like in Jordan, like in
Dubai, then in Bahrain, in Kuwait, and
in Oman, almost everything is still
dual. So there's no, it's not true that
in the Middle East, it's basically free
of usury. That's what we have to
correct. I'm sorry about this. And the
Saudi government itself trusts China
more than Indonesia. The proof is when
King Salman
visited Indonesia.
Heeh.
We were hoping for investment from
Saudi Arabia.
Yes, billions of dollars. But billions
of dollars, but that was just a promise
. God knows
best. Is there any real realization?
When you go directly from Indonesia to
China, what's that called? The nominal
amount is huge.
Yes.
How much? 200 billion dollars. We said
7 billion, that's very small, right?
They can reach hundreds of billions
there, that's extraordinary. So they
themselves are sensitive to China,
and if we look at how, eh, China's
influence and also Chinese goods in
Islamic countries are super, super big.
Yes.
In Pakistan, China built a large road
that cuts from the north to the south
to the Indian Ocean. The Indian Ocean
at the port of Kuadar, if I'm not
mistaken, is all its land, and the
amount, if I'm not mistaken, is 20
billion dollars, which is huge for
Pakistan.
Not to mention the Saudis, right? Ustaz
, right?
Yes, not to mention Saudis. It's huge.
Heeh. That's
why China's power is extraordinary in
this regard. As long as we read
capitalist textbooks and always follow
their prescriptions, formulas, and
policies,
we will end up going back to that.
Yes.
Because we don't open the Qur'an, don't
open the Sunnah, how do we try to do it
in a different form according to the
basics of sharia that we don't develop.
Yes. The second question is
about dinars being invested in
dinars. I wasn't very clear about that
earlier. I didn't
listen clearly. I'm not quite sure,
so yes, Mr. Bambang was invited to buy
dinars and invest them
for 6 months, then earn Rp 300,000 per
month.
What I'm not clear about in this case
is this, Mr. Bambang. He.
Hey, dinars are money, even if they're
made from gold, they're still money.
Hey.
If we invest in dinars, what form do we
take? Do we buy dinars, wait for a
while, and then sell them when the gold
price rises? Or is it like buying
dinars and investing them in the real
sector?
Hey.
Building factories, plantations. Then,
that creates labor, then it produces
output, and we sell that output to the
community, and the proceeds are
returned to us after the sale. We don't
know what it's called, or what the
operations are like.
Hey, I don't know the investment model
that Mr. Bombang mentioned. He hasn't
fully explained it yet. So, for example
, if it's first,
we buy dinars, wait for a while, and
then when the price rises, we sell them
and get the money. So, no matter how
much you invest, it has nothing to do
with absorbing labor, it has nothing to
do with creating jobs, nothing. Because
this is all in the financial sector,
even in the dinar.
Yes.
What we want is to move from the
financial sector to the real sector.
The sector,
right? This sector will absorb labor,
create jobs, and then the output can be
sold to the public, ultimately making a
profit. So, we share the profits. What
I mean by investment is that if you
just wait for prices to rise, like gold
prices, that's speculation. Is that
what it's like? God knows best. From
the explanation above, I don't have a
complete picture yet. But that's my
answer.
However, if the investor is using the
first or second model, there's already
been a brief explanation, Mr. Bambang.
Okay, Ustaz, Mr. Mamang's question is
likely the last one we can answer
tonight due to time constraints
regarding our topic of
72 years of Indonesian independence
from an Islamic economic perspective,
as a closing statement.
Yes. Thank you, Masangga. Dear viewers
of Rasil TV and listeners of Radio
Silaturahim, wherever you are.
Interpreting our independence in an
Islamic context is not only related to
Indonesia, but to all Muslim countries.
Because Muslim countries achieved
independence in a similar way to
Indonesia. They fought for their heroes
, there were rebellions against
colonialism, and there were victims,
there were martyrs, just like we do.
Some were martyred, some died on the
battlefield in the fight to achieve or
defend independence. And from the
calendar, it's not that far off. At the
end of the first half of the 20th
century and the beginning of the second
half of the 20th century, Indonesia
played a significant role. Therefore,
what we want to understand about
independence in relation to Islamic
economics is whether, after our
independence, during this period, we
have prepared resources, namely human
resources, that we manage in such a way
that they are capable of operating
Islamic finance or Islamic economics,
right? Because Islamic economics and
Islamic finance have become part of the
national economy and finance or
financial system. Therefore, we must
create such a way, we must develop it
so that it contributes positively to
development, so that development based
on interest-bearing loans, which
contain usury, can be gradually reduced
and ideally, we can eliminate it
altogether. Yes, we can just create a
mudarabah cooperation, profit-sharing.
Let's not make loans that involve
interest. Ultimately, what we mean is
that we make mudarabah mutually
beneficial. We share the profits.
There's musyarakah, and so on. Later,
if we want to explore it, if the
government is serious about changing
the pattern of credit lending
relationships with other countries or
with donor institutions, it should be
based on Islamic or sharia-compliant
methods. I would very much welcome this
, so that our country can be free of
usury. Free of usury and free from the
sins of usury. Because usury is a major
sin. A
major sin, a
major sin that we must avoid.
So that our lives in this economy after
achieving independence for 70 years, 72
years, have meaning for us in the
economy. Oh, it turns out our lives
have become purer, cleaner, free from
usury and its dust. As the Prophet
Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon
him) foretold, a time will come when
you will not be able to avoid usury.
Even if you can avoid usury, you are
still exposed to the dust of usury.
May Allah Subhanahu wa taala forgive us
all and make it easy to realize an
economy without usury. That's all.
Peace be upon you. Okay, thank you very
much, Ustaz. Oh, brothers and sisters
who are blessed by Allah Subhanahu wa
taala. That's the Islamic economy
tonight with Ustaz Ikhwan Basri from
the National Sharia Council of the
Indonesian Ulema Council. Hopefully
what he conveyed is useful for all of
us. I apologize for any unanswered SMS
tonight. I am Angga Aminudin
accompanied by Muhammad Dedi, Fajar
Hidayat, and also Yusuf Subangkit.
Please take your leave. Billahi taufik
wal hidayah. Subhanakallahumma
wabihamdika ashadu alla ilaha illa anta
astagfiruka wa atubu ilaik.
Asalamualaikum warahmatullahi
wabarakatuh. When Israel came calling,
the bodies lay there