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0:08 Brail TV. 0:15 Bismillahirrahmanirrahim. Peace be upon 0:17 you warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. 0:20 Allahumma sholli ala sayyidina Muhammad 0:21 wa ala ali sayyidina Muhammad. 0:24 Alhamdulillah we meet again today on 0:27 Thursday, the 3rd of Muharram 1448 0:30 Hijriah or June 18, 2026 we meet again 0:34 in the Waqf Talk program. This program 0:39 is aired every third Thursday with Mr. 0:45 Safril Lumlis. He is the head of the 0:49 Waqf Silaturahim institution. 0:52 Alhamdulillah. Brothers in the studio 0:54 here are also Ondi Saputra, there is 0:56 Algi, and there is our guest. Who is he 0:58 ? Later it will be explained by Mr. 1:01 Spril, Mr. Sihabudin, obviously. Here 1:04 is also accompanied by Mrs. Ra Rai. 1:09 Peace be upon you, Mas Afril. 1:10 Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi 1:12 wabarakatuh, Mas Kris. 1:13 Masfril, waqf of love to parents who 1:15 have returned to Allah. That's our 1:18 theme, yes. I. 1:19 So, the waqf of love for parents who 1:22 have returned to Allah, to Allah. 1:24 Because at that time there was a 1:27 question, can people who have passed 1:29 away still give waqf? Yes. 1:31 W. Okay. Yes. 1:32 Okay. Okay. Maybe we will listen to Mr. 1:35 Saril read Surah Albaqarah verse 261. 1:38 Please, Mr. Saril. 1:39 Auzubillahiminasyaitanirrajim. 1:42 Bismillahirrahmanirrahim. 1:46 Matsalulladzina yunfiquuna amwalahum fi 1:50 sabilillahi kamali habbah kamali 1:54 habbatin ambatanat sammaabil fi kunni 1:59 malulatim mih malulatim miatun habbah 2:04 Wallahu yudifu liman yasya Wallahu 2:09 wasi'un alim The example of those who 2:14 spend their wealth in the way of Allah 2:19 is like a seed that grows seven stalks. 2:25 On each stalk there are 100 grains. 2:28 Allah multiplies for whom He wills. And 2:33 Allah is all-encompassing, all-knowing. 2:36 So if we read this, Mas Krishna, Allah 2:39 is in such a way that he is replaced by 2:42 700. But that doesn't necessarily mean 2:45 that if, for example, we donate, give 2:47 alms, donate IDR 1,000 and then change 2:50 it to IDR 700,000. Allah replaced it 2:53 with another form of value. Health, a 2:57 sakinah family, mawadah warahmah, 3:00 children who are obedient, pious, pious 3:04 , 3:05 our environment with strong friendship, 3:11 we want to like to learn or deepen 3:15 religion, that's part of grace, right, 3:19 sir? 3:20 Yes Yes. So Allah replaced it with 700 3:23 times. And it would be a shame if we 3:27 did not participate in what Surah 3:32 Albaqarah 261 describes. Infaq that 3:43 will bring benefits. Last month we told 3:44 the story, we sleep, the benefits of 3:46 walking are like that, right? 3:47 H. Well, so Mas Krisna added more to 3:51 that verse and added how much Allah 3:55 wants. So this is an opportunity to 3:58 prepare before we return to Allah, we 4:00 prepare our deeds of worship, and today 4:02 we will discuss this waqf from a 4:04 somewhat different perspective. We also 4:07 have a guest, Mr. Krisna. Yes, thank 4:08 God, 4:09 Mr. Syabudin, 4:10 he 4:12 and Mrs. RIT are mobilizing MSMEs, 4:17 especially regarding plants that are 4:25 part of what are they called? 4:30 Essential oils. Yes, today we are 4:33 chatting with him. We will try to see 4:36 how waqf can work together so that waqf 4:42 from the community can be productive, 4:45 yes. But before we get to Mr. Syabudin, 4:48 we want to talk first about our love 4:52 for Mr. Krishna's parents. 4:54 Yes. Is it true that someone can donate 5:00 in the name of their deceased parents, 5:04 Mr. Safril? That's 5:06 a question from a listener. 5:08 Yes, before I answer Mr. Krishna, we 5:11 also want to greet Mrs. Cani. 5:14 Mrs. Cani is the first waqf to the 5:17 Silaturahim Waqf Institution. 5:20 Alhamdulillah. 5:20 Yes. I hope she is in good health. 5:22 How are you, Mrs. Jani? I hope you're 5:24 healthy, ma'am, okay? And there is Mr. 5:27 Slamad Riadi. 5:28 Congratulations Riadi. 5:29 Mr. Shamad Riadi is not a waqf, 5:32 although the amount is limited, but he 5:35 continues to give 5:37 thanks 5:39 to Mr. Samad Riyadi, God willing, Allah 5:43 will strengthen his heart in his love 5:46 for waqf. Yes. There is another Mrs. 5:48 Siti Mirasna. Mrs. Siti Mirasna 5:51 encouraged her children to give waqf. 5:55 So it's not just him, Mrs. Mirasna, 5:58 this is the family of what is it called 6:03 ? Navy. The family of her late 6:05 husband's husband was different in the 6:07 navy. But their children are educated 6:09 in such a way. Their children come 6:12 forward and are also encouraged to give 6:15 waqf. There have been many Mrs. Nanis 6:18 many times, Mrs. Suryani in Lintingkung 6:21 also many times. There is another 6:24 family, the late Mrs. Wasiatun was 6:27 dicondet. Before she died, Mrs. 6:31 Wasiatun wrote a will, later this 6:34 jewelry was handed over to Rasil for 6:39 the Koran waqf and it was fulfilled by 6:41 her family in Condet. Ee, hopefully 6:44 Mrs. Wasiatun will benefit from the 6:49 charity that her family has just 6:51 fulfilled after she returns to Allah. 6:54 There is another Mrs. Asmangia who 6:57 plans to donate land, rukoh, and many 7:01 more waqifs who we cannot mention one 7:04 by one. But they are all people who 7:08 have been blessed by Allah with taufik 7:12 and guidance so that they understand 7:16 waqf as part of Jariah and how waqf is 7:23 managed as part of love and obedience 7:27 to Allah. Well, this is what the waqifs 7:32 who have donated to the silaturahim 7:35 waqf institution are brought to, which 7:38 is the working body of the Rumah Quran 7:41 Silaturahim Waqf Foundation. Yes, so 7:44 greetings to all the wakif ladies who 7:48 have donated to waqf institutions. 7:51 Hopefully Allah will continue to 7:54 instill love in our hearts, ladies and 7:57 gentlemen, to continue doing good deeds 8:01 . 8:02 Yes, that question has not been 8:03 answered, Mr Spril. 8:04 Can someone donate to their parents or 8:07 to their parents who have died? 8:10 Okay, before I answer Mr. Krishna, 8:13 sometimes we miss our deceased parents 8:19 so much. Oh my God, if they were still 8:24 around, I would want to kiss their feet 8:27 every day. Yes. 8:30 I want to hug them every day. 8:35 Hm. But if they are gone, we can't do 8:40 that. But we can still do something 8:46 that, God willing, with Allah's 8:48 permission, will be accepted by them in 8:51 their grave. It's part of the ongoing 8:55 charity that they didn't have time to 8:57 fulfill during their lifetime. Yes. So, 9:01 once a friend named Saad bin Abu 9:05 Ubaidah asked the Prophet for 9:09 permission, Mr. Krishna, "Can I endow 9:14 this well in the name of my deceased 9:19 mother? My mother has passed away. I 9:24 feel like if she used to give alms, but 9:29 since she has passed away, can I endow 9:34 this well in her name?" The Prophet 9:39 replied, "Of course I can.""Yes. 9:42 So, in conclusion, Mr. Krishna, and 9:45 this also corrects my incomplete 9:48 explanation from the previous meeting, 9:51 where I only held that if a child of 9:54 Adam dies, his deeds are cut off except 9:58 for three: ongoing charity, then 10:00 knowledge that is practiced, and pious 10:04 children who pray for him. 10:06 It turns out that in the context of 10:09 ongoing charity, this can still be done 10:12 by his descendants. 10:14 Hm. 10:15 Making waqf, giving alms, giving 10:18 charity. But the money is the money 10:20 from the child. It 10:22 has to be their own money. 10:23 For example, don't give your own money, 10:25 oh because our parents have died, there 10:27 is an inheritance, it can't be taken 10:28 from there. 10:29 Because the inheritance has already 10:31 been divided. It has to be your own 10:32 money. 10:32 The child's money means 10:33 money that will be donated in the name 10:36 of his parents. 10:37 Oh. 10:37 For example, Mr. Krishna wants to make 10:39 a waqf in the name of his deceased 10:40 father or mother, it 10:42 must be Mr. Krisna's own money, not 10:44 money from the inheritance. Well, 10:47 that's the picture. Well, the 10:49 conclusion is that we can reflect our 10:56 love, our longing for our parents who 10:59 are no longer there by making a waqf in 11:02 their name. In the name of the deceased 11:06 or in the name of the deceased, Mr. 11:08 Kris. 11:10 Okay, yes. Here too Present is Mr. 11:14 Sihabudin. He is the owner of what is 11:19 the name of the plantation, mashaallah? 11:21 Ginger. Eh ginger is not ginger. The 11:24 fragrant lemongrass 11:26 is about 61 hectares and will be used 11:29 for essential oil. Ee please, sir. 11:32 Assalamualaikum Mr. Syabudin. The 11:34 mic, please. Eh ee 11:37 okay. Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi 11:39 wabarakatuh, Mr. Krisna. 11:41 How long is the process of making 11:43 lemongrass from ee lemongrass to 11:45 essential oil? 11:46 Ee the process is only harvested, 11:49 meaning in sem ee the lemongrass is 11:53 harvested. 11:54 Heeh. 11:54 Transported to the distillation 11:56 location 11:57 and distilled for approximately 4 to 6 12:00 hours. 12:01 6 hours. 12:02 Ee the oil is finished. 12:05 Hm. H. So there must be a machine too, 12:07 right? 12:07 Yes. Ee actually it's not a machine but 12:10 a distillation tool. 12:12 Oh distillation tools. 12:13 Distillation tools. Yes. 12:14 He. 12:15 Mr. Sabudin has probably heard of this 12:18 waqf issue, right? 12:19 Yes. 12:20 Ee maybe my knowledge is not much, but 12:23 at least ee has heard of it. 12:27 Hm. Yes. So, listeners, viewers, today 12:31 we have a guest, Mr. Syabudin. He is a 12:37 practitioner of plantations of plants 12:41 that can be processed into siri oil. We 12:46 are currently exploring how waqf can 12:50 play a role in activities like those 12:53 carried out by Mr. Syabuddin and Mrs. 12:57 Raiti. So that from there, the 13:01 collected waqf can become productive. 13:03 Yes. So, maybe more or less a question 13:07 before we talk more deeply about these 13:13 various types of waqf, eh, how, is it 13:16 possible, Mr. Syabuddin, that waqf, if 13:20 used in the context of gardening, 13:24 participating in gardening, eh, 13:27 lemongrass specifically, can produce 13:31 results, so that productive waqf has 13:35 results that become waqf alaih, right? 13:39 So 13:39 yes, 13:40 the results from the utilization of 13:43 waqf can be used for wider use. 13:45 This productive waqf, yes, 13:46 that's why we call it productive waqf. 13:49 Perhaps could you explain the potential 13:52 benefits of oil siri through this 13:55 lemongrass plant in particular? 13:58 eh, okay, thank you. Maybe first I 14:02 should eh because my knowledge of waqf 14:05 is ee not as broad as ee experts. I see 14:09 . I think maybe you can correct it 14:13 later, sir, if there's anything that's 14:15 not quite right. 14:16 Okay. For productive waqf specifically 14:22 for the processing of siri oil, I think 14:26 it's very possible, for example, if 14:30 someone wants to donate their wealth or 14:34 money, perhaps 14:37 permanently in the form of land 14:41 ownership or processing. Hmm. 14:45 If it's processing, maybe you'll share 14:49 it, because waqf means it's been 14:52 released from the 14:54 owner, 14:55 ownership of the assets 14:57 belongs to Allah. 14:58 Ah, entrusted to Allah, 15:01 entrusted to a 15:02 nazir. 15:03 Um, nazir, and in this case, the nazir 15:06 must be trustworthy, sir. Yes. 15:09 If, for example, you say you entrust it 15:12 to me, of course after it's from me, 15:14 and it must be recorded, it 15:16 will be passed down again if I'm no 15:18 longer processing it, maybe to my child 15:20 or whoever, 15:22 that there's a waqf of A here, 15:27 in a certain amount, for the production 15:30 of essential oil itself, in this case, 15:33 lemongrass. So that means it's included 15:36 in the capital, sir. And the capital, 15:39 of course, because the waqf is 15:41 permanent. 15:41 Hm. 15:42 So it must be converted first to 15:45 hmm 15:45 ee what is it called ee working capital 15:51 . 15:51 Yes. 15:52 Well, that means every time there is a 15:54 result produced from the processing of 15:57 this oil, this citronella oil, of 15:59 course the share of ownership of the 16:02 waqf must be calculated first, Sir. 16:04 And is there a monthly report or what? 16:06 It 16:06 must be there. It must be there because 16:09 this concerns God's property, right? 16:11 When it is a waqf, it is already even 16:14 though everything belongs to God, but 16:17 it cannot be ee misused because it 16:20 depends on the mandate entrusted by the 16:23 owner ee the initial waqf, 16:25 yes wakif, yes 16:26 wakif, something like that, but there 16:28 are already things running from the 16:29 waqf, 16:30 so far we have never done anything ee 16:32 and this idea came from the coincidence 16:35 that Arti's wife gave us an opportunity 16:38 , right, Sir? 16:39 Yes. Giving opportunities to where not 16:41 this waqf 16:43 ee is it allowed by waqf here ee and of 16:46 course the management also with someone 16:49 else's waqf we must be professional and 16:53 not be 16:54 careless about using it like that. 16:56 Yes. So ee listeners behind the camera 16:59 is Mrs. Raiti too. Uh she is a 17:05 businessman together with Sir Syabudin 17:09 manages this siri oil, which has also 17:11 been exported, 17:12 and according to him, the market is 17:15 very large. We are currently exploring 17:20 how to utilize this productive waqf in 17:24 agricultural sectors, which also have 17:28 sales value and the potential to 17:32 generate good profits. 17:34 Yes. 17:35 So this waqf becomes productive, 17:38 provides benefits, and the waqf funds 17:41 themselves are maintained. Maintained, 17:45 maintained, and utilized. 17:47 Right. 17:47 Well, that's what we're discussing 17:49 today. Even though he's our guest here 17:52 with Ms. Reti, we're also inviting him 17:55 to talk about waqf 17:57 e, which is related to the utilization 17:59 of productive waqf. Is it possible for 18:01 him to make a waqf in April, but also 18:03 receive the profit from this waqf? Well 18:07 , can the waqf make a waqf and then ask 18:12 for a portion of the proceeds if his 18:16 life requires it? For example, a simple 18:20 example: Okay, I want to donate this 18:22 shophouse 18:23 or this rental house. But please, I 18:27 still get a portion of the rent, 18:30 because I don't have an income. 18:33 Yes, you 18:33 can. 18:34 You can. It's 18:34 called an expert waqf, or" Okay, I want 18:40 to donate to a plantation. "Mrs. 18:44 Raiti's lemongrass, Mr. Syabudin's. But 18:47 I'll share a little of the profits 18:50 because I don't have any other source 18:52 of income. It could be called an expert 18:55 waqf. Yes. So this waqf is very 18:59 flexible, Mr. Krul, in terms of the 19:02 amount. 19:05 There are some like the ones I 19:12 mentioned earlier, the amount is very, 19:20 uh, not large. Yes. And he doesn't want 19:37 to 19:42 mention the amount. But there are also 20:03 those who donate even more than 50 20:04 million 20:06 Rupiah. Yes, cash waqf to ee, ...Right. 20:08 Nothing should have interest, 20:10 so the waqf becomes unproductive. Well, 20:12 now 20:13 we're exploring. Okay, now there's 20:15 Rasil's garden. Behind Rasil's studio, 20:19 there's a garden that's starting to 20:22 produce, and the vegetables are organic 20:26 , which is pretty good. Now we've 20:30 started paying off the loan from the 20:33 friendship waqf. Can it be used for 20:36 other things? Of course, can we, Mrs. 20:41 Raiti, join us in gardening? 20:45 Yes. 20:46 Even though we don't have any gardening 20:48 skills. We'll leave it to the experts. 20:50 Later, if there are benefits from the 20:53 waqf value we invest, there are results 20:56 , then it becomes a productive waqf, 20:58 like that. Maybe you can add more, Mr. 21:01 Syabuddin. 21:03 Uh, the waqf received, God willing, 21:07 must first be converted into cash. If 21:12 it remains in the form of working 21:15 capital, then our working capital as 21:19 entrepreneurs must calculate how much 21:22 our capital is and how much waqf 21:25 capital is included there. 21:28 Okay. So what's the portion? 21:30 Okay. That's roughly it. 21:32 Then, based on the results, that's also 21:35 the case. Of course, we have to make ee 21:39 how are the calculations. Then the 21:42 results of the waqf are in accordance 21:45 with the ijab kabul of the ee wakif, 21:48 sir. The wakif said yes kabul that 21:52 this result of my ee waqf please be 21:56 used for, for example, building a 22:00 mosque or ee to provide scholarships to 22:04 ee groups or something like that. I'll 22:08 give an example that I've heard about. 22:13 ee waqf ee Acehnese figure in the past 22:18 was named Habib Bugak. 22:20 Yes. 22:21 Who donated his wealth to buy land in 22:26 Mecca. Then the land was said yes kabul 22:31 that any Acehnese who lived in Mecca 22:36 or ee education, continuing their 22:39 education in Mecca, 22:40 they could 22:41 ee use the waqf and to this day it has 22:45 been running for more than 200 years 22:48 because 22:49 ee the recipient of the waqf is a trust 22:51 that continues to be a trust and 22:53 cannot be transferred because it used 22:55 to be the Acehnese people. Heeh. 22:57 Primarily the Acehnese people. Then the 22:59 Javanese people. Jawi, according to me, 23:01 are the children of Sumatra. 23:03 Sumatra. If there are no more Acehnese 23:06 people, there will be no more new 23:08 Sumatrans for the archipelago. 23:10 That's why when The Indonesian 23:11 government requested that it not be 23:13 given because it was not in accordance 23:14 with the mandate. H.I. 23:17 Something 23:19 like that. 23:20 Uh, like this, likewise with the siri 23:24 oil, the working capital and capital 23:27 must remain intact there, something 23:31 like that. 23:32 Masyaallah, the values of waqf are 23:34 extraordinary, Mr. Safril. Now, when 23:36 Mother is no longer here, I feel like I 23:40 want to kiss her feet every day, like I 23:43 said, Mr. Safril. Can that be included 23:47 in the context of waqf, Mr. Safril? 23:50 Yes. So, returning to our initial 23:52 discussion, Mr. Krishna, listeners and 23:55 viewers, our love and longing for our 24:01 deceased parents can be reflected by 24:07 making waqf in their names. The 24:10 mechanism is simple. This means that if 24:14 you, listeners and viewers, brothers 24:17 and sisters, intend to make a waqf, 24:20 have money, and intend to make a waqf 24:23 for someone, 24:23 for my parents, in the name of my 24:25 parents, Fulan or Fulana. We pledge and 24:29 then ask for the proceeds to be used 24:32 for any type of waqf. If we want a 24:36 productive waqf, then we at the waqf 24:38 silaturahim institution will certainly 24:40 use it according to its intended 24:41 purpose. the vow, that's what it is. 24:44 Well, the meaning is simple, as we have 24:47 said, first, maintain your intentions, 24:50 build your intentions sincerely for the 24:53 sake of Allah, want to seek Allah's 24:55 approval, want to give waqf in the name 24:59 of your deceased mother or deceased 25:01 mother or deceased father. yes, provide 25:05 the funds. Then let us know that the 25:08 friendship waqf can be transferred to 25:16 our bank account at Bank Syariah 25:20 Indonesia. The account number is 222 25:26 300 times. 25:28 Two times 25:29 300307 in the name of the Silaturahim 25:31 Waqf Institution. So, ladies and 25:34 gentlemen who want to make waqf in the 25:40 name of our parents who have returned 25:46 to Allah or in the name of perhaps 25:48 having children, 25:49 yes, children first return to Allah, we 25:52 love children, we can make waqf in the 25:56 name of children. The mechanism is the 26:00 same, it's not just parents. 26:03 Yes 26:03 There are people whose children died a 26:06 long time ago, with all the sadness, 26:09 which means we can feel it. 26:11 So, this sadness can be reflected by 26:14 donating waqf in the name of the child. 26:18 Yes, of course there are children in 26:21 this context, even though they don't 26:23 exist limited to having returned, but 26:26 in the name of the child or not in the 26:29 name of anyone who has passed away to 26:31 the mercy of Allah can make a waqf in 26:34 their name, Mr. Krishna. 26:36 Yes, Mr. Sapudin. If there are 26:38 listeners who are interested in making 26:41 a waqf on the land held by Mr. Siabudin 26:44 , what is the mechanism? There is a 26:46 diagram. 26:49 Ee I think of course it has to be 26:52 discussed with the waqif, yes, and in 26:54 this case, of course, it has to involve 26:57 Rasil. Enter Rasil first, yes, as a 27:00 nazir, 27:01 ee, then ee Rasil as the nazir who 27:07 entrusts the waqf to 27:11 our business, or something like that. 27:13 Can you give a picture, for example, 27:15 how much land area can be used for this 27:20 waqif? 27:21 Mm ee that is converted, Sir, 27:26 to be able to be as land area, or it 27:29 can also be just working capital, not 27:32 investment. 27:32 Oh, yes. I 27:33 as working capital maybe e if in ee the 27:38 working capital in the processing of 27:41 this essential oil, this fragrant 27:44 lemongrass oil, for example, is 27:47 approximately Rp100, meaning if there 27:51 is a waqf that comes in Rp10, then 10% 27:54 of ee working capital is His property, 27:57 ee, which cannot be disturbed by the 28:01 waqf property, therefore it belongs to 28:04 the waqf, that's 28:06 roughly 28:06 it. So, to add to this explanation, ee, 28:09 the government's regulation is that 28:12 someone who wants to make a waqf must 28:17 go through a waqf body or waqf 28:19 institution or foundation or waqf legal 28:21 entity 28:22 that is registered with the Indonesian 28:24 waqf agency. 28:25 Yes. So, this means that if you want to 28:28 make a waqf but specifically want this 28:32 waqf to be used for productive waqf in 28:35 the agricultural sector, for example, 28:37 Mr. Syabudinul 28:39 can say okay, I'm making a waqf in my 28:42 own name 28:44 by ee vowing that the use of this waqf 28:48 is for the agricultural sector, for 28:52 example, this waqf is used as a 28:55 productive waqf in the agricultural 28:59 sector. Then later, Rasil, yes, Rasil 29:03 waqf, the silaturahim waqf institution 29:06 must use it for sectors that are 29:09 related to agriculture. 29:12 We can no longer make, for example, a 29:13 prayer room, we can't. Or vice versa, 29:15 if it is intended for a prayer room, a 29:18 place of worship, we can't use it for 29:20 the productive sector. 29:21 Right. So, if we refer to Mas Krishna 29:26 Pasabudin ee to waqf management which 29:33 has been successful in Bangladesh, 29:36 Pakistan, Malaysia and even Singapore. 29:41 Even though Singapore does not have a 29:43 majority of non-Muslim residents, their 29:45 waqf institutions are very advanced. 29:48 Very advanced. H 29:49 last month we had a discussion here 29:52 with the amir of the Singapore waqf 29:54 council. So, the point is, ladies and 29:58 gentlemen, let's make waqf. If you want 30:03 your waqf to be specific, sorry 30:09 specifically for the agricultural 30:11 sector, please mark it with productive 30:14 waqf for the agricultural sector. Later 30:16 , we at the friendly waqf institution 30:20 will use it in accordance with our 30:22 pledge. The mechanism is like before, 30:25 the funds are sent and then it is 30:28 stated there for what purpose or what 30:30 the pledge is. 30:32 With that, we will use it as promised. 30:37 Yes Okay. Mr. Sapri asked, can a wakif 30:41 choose which productive waqf is good? 30:45 For example, if there is a choice, can 30:48 he choose that? 30:49 You can be a wakif, especially if you 30:51 already have knowledge. 30:52 Yes 30:53 Yes, if a wakif has knowledge about the 30:55 agricultural sector 30:57 or the livestock sector or the 31:01 construction sector, then the wakif 31:04 candidate says," I want My endowments 31:08 will later be used in this or that 31:12 sector. "That's 31:13 right. Because he already has 31:16 experience in this sector, for example, 31:19 my sector wants my waqf to be used as a 31:22 productive waqf in the agricultural 31:25 sector, specifically for the 31:28 development of essential oils, for 31:30 example. 31:32 So, Rasil will, if Rasil sees that 31:34 there is potential, accept the waqf and 31:38 distribute it according to the pledge 31:40 of the waqif, 31:42 Mas Krisna. Okay, this is a question 31:44 for Mr. Siabudin. Assalamualaikum, Mr. 31:45 Siabudin. 31:46 Waalaikumsalam. 31:47 Uh, so far, Sir, what Mr. Siabudin has 31:50 experienced, is the productivity good 31:54 and how is the market? That's all. 31:57 Alhamdulillah, we have been producing 32:00 Citronella oil, especially because our 32:03 business is in the oil sector. 32:07 Uh, there is lemongrass, there is 32:09 patchouli, there is nutmeg, cloves, and 32:11 so on. But specifically for Citronella, 32:14 we have been since 2012. 32:17 Oh, it's been a long time, huh? 32:18 Yes, more or less almost 14 years. And 32:22 God willing, since it was founded, 32:28 since the beginning, we started with ee 32:31 , where the price is still possible to 32:34 get. Friends mocked that it was very 32:38 cheap, and thank God, these days the 32:41 price is getting better and better. Uh, 32:46 the demand is also increasing. So, the 32:49 prospects are still very promising. And 32:56 what we have experienced from the 32:58 beginning until today, God willing, is 33:01 that it continues to grow. Because 33:04 initially, when we first planted in 33:08 2012, our land area was only around, ee 33:12 , less than 20 hectares. 33:16 Now it's 61. Yes, thank God, it's more 33:19 or less 61 hectares. 33:20 Hmm. Greetings, Mr. Siabudin. As for 33:23 the experts, are they domestic or 33:26 international, according to Mrs. Retno? 33:31 uh, our market, Mrs. Retno, is still 33:35 primarily domestic. uh, exports have 33:40 occurred, ee, we have exported several 33:44 times to Taiwan and to several 33:46 countries such as France. uh, because 33:51 domestic demand is increasing, we 33:54 finally just focus on 33:56 domestically. Because exports require 34:00 larger capital, 34:05 because we have to have stock before we 34:07 send samples. 34:08 After sample approval, we send the 34:10 product. So we do need stock because 34:13 exports are per container. For 34:16 essential oils themselves What's the 34:18 final point? Fragrances or 34:21 essential oils are partly used for 34:24 perfumes, the perfume industry, and 34:27 even pharmaceuticals. 34:28 For pharmaceuticals too. 34:29 Huh. 34:30 There are also some for industry, 34:33 for example, citronella oil is used for 34:38 bioadditives. Bioadditives in this case 34:41 are for fuel economy. 34:43 Hmm. Huh. 34:44 And uh, fuel efficiency and also 34:47 for cleaning combustion. 34:49 Huh, I see. 34:51 Okay, Mr. Saber. 34:53 Okay. Uh, listeners, viewers, our 34:57 discussion today is basically to 35:01 illustrate that the potential in the 35:05 economic sector that uses waqf funds is 35:10 certainly open. The problem is the 35:14 volume or amount of waqf funds 35:18 available that we can use as ee, a kind 35:24 of working capital. 35:26 Yes. 35:27 Because this working capital must be 35:28 returned, yes. It 35:29 must be returned, 35:30 and we have to evaluate whether it is 35:32 profitable or not. 35:33 Right. 35:34 If this working capital cannot be 35:35 returned, whose responsibility is it? 35:37 Nazir is obliged to have it returned 35:39 intact, Mr. Krishna. That's it. 35:41 Therefore, we need to evaluate which 35:46 sectors, not just agriculture, are 35:50 firstly safe for waqf fund placement. 35:55 Right. 35:56 Secondly, they have added value or 35:58 profit or profitability. That is our 36:02 choice in placing Waqf funds. Of course 36:07 , we, the listeners and viewers, must 36:10 utilize these waqf funds. Because if we 36:14 don't utilize them, they just sit in 36:15 the bank, they don't provide anything, 36:17 they just sit there. They 36:19 don't provide any benefit. Waqf funds 36:23 should be able to play a role in 36:26 growing the economy, playing a role in 36:29 alleviating poverty, and increasing the 36:33 productivity of the community. So, we 36:37 at the Waqf Silaturahim institution are 36:40 starting to explore potential 36:42 collaboration patterns for continued 36:45 development. In addition, Mr. Krishna, 36:49 the growth of sharia plantations for 36:56 siri oil, as described by Mr. Syaubin, 37:00 also has the potential to enter the 37:03 side sector, such as cattle farming. 37:07 Yes, where the residue from the unused 37:12 citronella process can be fermented 37:16 into animal feed. 37:19 Yes. So, when we talk about livestock, 37:22 of course the livestock sector itself, 37:24 the second most expensive is feed. Well 37:27 , if the feed comes from cheap and 37:29 high-quality sources, it will certainly 37:30 be beneficial. Well, all of this is 37:33 currently being explored by Mr. Sabudin 37:37 and Mrs. Raita. 37:40 Hopefully, 37:41 hopefully, yes. Hopefully, we can 37:44 further develop this into a waqf 37:47 cooperation that benefits all parties, 37:51 and we must be accountable for it in 37:55 this world and the hereafter. The 37:58 hereafter. He. So, it's not like an 38:01 ordinary investment institution, Mr. 38:05 Krishna, which only lives off the 38:08 obligation to share profits. But we at 38:12 this waqf institution must be careful 38:15 to ensure that the money entrusted to 38:19 the waqf, right, ee wakif to this waqf 38:23 institution, must be used for the 38:26 greatest possible benefit. So, before 38:29 we end this ee waqf talk, this morning 38:33 we discussed waqf for families who have 38:37 passed away, yes, Mr. Krishna. Yes. Yes 38:41 . Well, the more waqf collected, the 38:44 more freedom there will be for its use, 38:48 including whether it is for the 38:51 agricultural sector. Therefore, on this 38:55 occasion, we invite ee wakif who have 38:58 already given waqf to re-waqf, invite 39:02 friends and family to give waqf. Waqf 39:06 is one of the components of charity ( 39:10 amal jariah) whose benefits and rewards 39:13 continue until we reach the end of our 39:17 lives. It's 39:19 like facing Allah, right? It's 39:21 different from infaq, where we get the 39:24 reward when we use it. The same goes 39:27 for alms. When we give alms, we get the 39:30 reward. But if we give waqf all the 39:34 time, we will gain benefits, we will 39:39 gain rewards from Allah from the waqf 39:41 we give. So, have the intention to make 39:44 a waqf. Then it's good for yourself, 39:47 especially for yourself. 39:50 Now, parents who are no longer around 39:52 can also make a waqf, Mr. Krishna. 39:55 Okay. Here's a question from Mr. Didi, 39:57 sir. Mr. Sapril, I don't understand 40:00 about productive waqf. Which part can 40:03 remain and which part can be taken, and 40:06 what are the products? Okay, thank you, 40:10 Mr. 40:10 Didi. 40:11 Mr. Didi, if you make a waqf, you, as 40:15 the waqif, hand over this waqf money, 40:20 we will see the results of the money 40:24 you donated. If you say the pledge is 40:29 for a productive waqf, this waqf, the 40:34 waqf money you have paid, we must use 40:38 it to produce results. Because if the 40:41 waqf itself If it's deposited in a bank 40:43 , it doesn't yield any results. But if 40:45 we use this waqf in productive sectors, 40:49 such as agriculture, livestock, 40:54 plantations, and some construction, it 40:58 brings benefits, so we use those 41:01 benefits. 41:02 Yes. But the problem is that the nazir, 41:06 in this context, is obligated to ensure 41:10 that the waqf, which is placed as an 41:14 investment as part of the productive 41:18 waqf, is secure. 41:20 Yes. 41:21 And it cannot be reduced. 41:23 Correct. Yes, if there is an increase, 41:26 we invest the waqf, the waqf money, in 41:29 the agricultural sector, for example, 41:32 in lemongrass farming as a sirih oil 41:35 industry, for Rp100 million. Then, from 41:39 the journey, there is a profit, say, Rp 41:43 million, right? 41:45 Yes. 41:45 Then only this Rp million can be used. 41:48 Yes. Correct. 41:49 The 100 must be returned intact. So, 41:52 that's the picture, Mr. Kisna. This is 41:54 what is called a productive waqf. 41:57 The nazir is obligated to choose a waqf 41:59 that is secure and capable of producing 42:02 results. 42:02 Correct. 42:03 Now, this result is called wukuf alaihi 42:05 . The benefits of the waqf can be used 42:11 for various purposes, Mr. Krisna. 42:13 Yes, we to the following question from 42:16 Mrs. Reni Jaya. Assalamualaikum, Mr. 42:18 Safril. My father, uh Mr. Safril, I 42:22 want to donate land in Madiun. How do I 42:25 do it? I'm Mrs. Yuti in Pondok Petir. 42:28 I'm sorry, but I don't have a 42:29 certificate yet. Oh, I'd like Mr. 42:31 Sapril and Mr. Sihabudin's phone 42:33 numbers. 42:34 Mr. Spril, here are the numbers. The 42:36 numbers are 0816 then 855 488 0816 858. 42:48 If I can have the phone number, 42:50 eh, it's 42:51 0812 42:55 10 48330 0812 1048330. The answer, Mr. 43:05 Sil, for Mrs. Yuti in Pondok Petir, 43:07 Mrs. Yuti 43:08 on land in Madiun, 43:09 yes, if Mrs. Yuti, 43:10 yes, 43:11 Mrs. Yuti has land in Madiun that she 43:13 wants to donate. The first requirement, 43:16 ma'am, is that it must have a 43:19 certificate. 43:20 This one doesn't have a certificate. 43:21 Because of this, ma'am. 43:23 Because it's 43:23 true 43:24 that the religious affairs office 43:27 doesn't want to accept waqf, doesn't 43:30 want to process land that doesn't have 43:33 a certificate. The certificate is proof 43:36 of legal ownership. That's right. 43:39 Well, if it is true Yes, if Rasil is 43:42 able to cultivate it in Madiun, 43:45 yes. Rasil said we are willing to 43:47 accept it. But if we think we can't 43:50 cultivate it in Madiun because it's so 43:53 far away, 43:54 then we will look for partners in 43:56 Madiun. There is land that can be 43:59 donated, whether it can be used or not. 44:02 We will connect them with parties who 44:06 are close to the land itself and are 44:08 able to cultivate it. That 44:10 doesn't mean we can't cultivate 44:11 something far away, ma'am. We can. But 44:14 of course, the preparation is not as 44:16 simple as if we were there. 44:18 Right. 44:19 Well, that's the picture, Mas Krisna. 44:21 So it has to be certified first. It 44:22 has to be certified. 44:24 And that process is at the Office of 44:26 Religious Affairs. 44:28 Mr. Sabud and Mr. Siabudin wanted to 44:31 ask if the Ponsre that Mr. Syiabudin 44:33 mentioned can grow in other places, for 44:36 example in Karawang or in barren areas? 44:40 God willing, lemongrass is a plant that 44:43 grows easily anywhere. 44:46 In fact, we have even tried planting it 44:50 on land, what is it called? In South 44:53 Kalimantan. 44:54 Reclamation. 44:55 Formerly reclaimed land. 44:57 Oh. 44:58 Formerly mined land. The growth is also 45:00 good. 45:02 Okay, ma'am. Okay. Thank you. 45:04 Yes. Yes, it seems all the questions 45:07 have been answered. Mr. Sapril, can you 45:10 summarize 45:11 our lesson today? 45:12 Okay. Our discussion today has two 45:15 topics, but the point is how to 45:18 encourage waqf to be part of the 45:20 development of the people's economy. Uh 45:24 , listeners and viewers, we want this 45:28 enormous potential for waqf in 45:31 Indonesia to be able to benefit the 45:37 people's economy, overcome poverty, and 45:41 so on. Well, but we also want to take 45:45 advantage of opportunities for our 45:48 parents who have not returned to Allah. 45:54 uh through waqf from their families, 45:59 yes. There is a surah in Almunafikun 46:02 verse 10, if I'm not mistaken, Mas 46:04 Krisna, that person who has passed away 46:07 , Mr. Syabuddin, 46:08 he only asked Allah," O Allah, please 46:10 return me for a moment 46:12 to give charity, 46:13 just to pledge, I pledge my wealth for 46:17 jariah, that's all, but Allah said it 46:20 can't be, it was given to me when I was 46:24 still alive. Well, listeners and 46:28 viewers, while Allah gives us this 46:30 opportunity, especially for those of 46:32 you who have sustenance. Allah has 46:34 promised that money used for jariah 46:37 charity will never decreases but will 46:40 increase. 46:41 God willing, 46:42 God guarantees that. 46:43 Yes I 46:43 gave you a picture earlier, Albaqarah 46:46 261 was replaced by 700. Therefore, 46:49 viewers, please intend to make waqf 46:54 both for yourself and on behalf of our 47:00 parents who have returned to Allah. 47:03 Then pledge the waqf for what? When it 47:07 has been collected it will be sent to 47:10 Rasil, God willing, we will trust it to 47:12 use it according to its intended 47:15 purpose. 47:15 Yes Well, one thing that has potential 47:19 is that we can use it for the 47:22 agricultural sector in this context, 47:28 including siri oil. So we will use the 47:32 waqf funds for productive activities so 47:35 that they can provide benefits. Be 47:38 intentional, ladies and gentlemen. Then 47:41 make that intention a reality, send 47:45 waqf funds to yourself and to the 47:49 people you love, especially our parents 47:54 who have returned to Allah. Then send 47:59 it to Bank SAR Indonesia account number 48:04 222. So the two are 4 times 48:09 3307 in the name of the Silaturahim 48:12 Waqf Institution. If the intention is 48:15 there, then With sincerity, then making 48:19 a waqf, that's part of the reflection 48:23 of a pious child who prays. It's also a 48:28 continuous charity from the deceased. 48:33 That's the picture this morning, Mr. 48:36 Krishna. Hopefully, it can encourage 48:40 listeners and viewers to make a waqf. 48:45 Okay, thank you, Mr. Safril. From Mr. 48:46 Syabudin, is there anything you'd like 48:48 to say? Uh, I think that's enough 48:52 because specifically regarding waqf, it 48:59 still has to go to Rasil as the 49:03 waqf institution. The 49:04 waqf institution. 49:05 Other institutions are also welcome, 49:06 sir. But in our context, listeners, 49:09 please send the results to the 49:11 Silaturahim Waqf Institution, which is 49:14 part of the 49:15 Silaturahim Quran House Waqf Foundation 49:18 . Okay. Okay. Uh, listeners, waqf is a 49:22 continuous charity whose rewards 49:24 continue to flow. Thank you, Mr. Safril 49:27 , Mr. Siabudin, thank you for your 49:29 explanation. 49:30 Thank you, Mr. 49:30 and Mrs. Raiti, also those behind Layih 49:33 for coming to Rasil too. I'm Muhammad 49:36 Krishna, then Oni Saputra and Mas Algi, 49:39 please take your leave. Wabillahi 49:42 taufik Peace be upon you. 
